Nikon’s Best Vintage Lens: Nikkor-P 105mm f2.5 Pre-AI. 50 Years Old Lens in 2023. Is it any good?

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The Nikkor 105mm f2.5 lens has always been a lens I wanted to try out. Its reputation has always been that it was one of Nikon’s best 35mm SLR manual lenses. Finally I got to try it out for a day at the beach. I matched it up with my Nikon D700. Even did some lens comparisons using my Nikon Z9. Surprising results.
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  • @drcruelty
    @drcruelty7 ай бұрын

    I have one of these and I love it. Its not even the only vintage lens that is surprisingly sharp and beautiful. I use mine with a Z6, much easier to manual focus on the Z cameras. But I'm glad you showed it off from both Z9 and D700. Some may cringe at manual focusing, but I find it more fun and brings back memories when that was the ONLY way. But this lens and almost any body you can fit it to will produce results you simply can't get without spending far more on the lens alone.

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    7 ай бұрын

    Totally agree! Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @masanthar
    @masanthar6 ай бұрын

    Well my three cents... Outstanding lens regardless of its age, amazing how good nikkor modern zooms are going head to head with a prime like that and ending up on top and third, gorgeous photos especially considering it was a walkaround for testing. 👍👍👍

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for commenting and your glowing review.

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms2517 ай бұрын

    I have this lens. Great video. Thank you RS. Canada

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @user-zr9ts7de1u
    @user-zr9ts7de1u5 ай бұрын

    My D700 is still my main camera, I am a wedding photographer. It's just magic. I'm gonna get this lens now I love trying vintage lenses. Thank you for the video!

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    5 ай бұрын

    Good choice!

  • @gerryhardman9060
    @gerryhardman90603 ай бұрын

    Just watched your video again and I like the fact that you show us the pictures for comparison and you don’t blather on about how great the lenses are without showing it in real time. Like other KZreadrs. The thing with the softer lens wide-open though is it gives you two lenses in one for taking portraits wide open which is quite flattering to your subject and when stopping down, it becomes a better landscape lens and I’m sure if, the lens was stopped down and compared to the other lenses. The difference would become even less than what is shown here. Although at 400% we are really pixel peeping. Thanks again for your video and your photography is excellent as well. Regards Gerry

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks, much appreciated. Glad you found the video interesting. Cheers Peter

  • @felixifloresrodriquez3306
    @felixifloresrodriquez330610 ай бұрын

    I got the Nikon 105mm s2.5 AIS. I love it and used it with my Nikon D750 and D500

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    10 ай бұрын

    Great.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras10 ай бұрын

    I have the lens that came out right after this one but non-AIS as well. Its absolutely great and best $100 CAD I ever spent (on a lens)

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    10 ай бұрын

    Great value.

  • @gerryhardman9060
    @gerryhardman90606 ай бұрын

    Nice set of pix with this legendary lens.I have one as well, a newer version which I have chipped so it communicates with the newer cameras. I have the 85 1.4 as well and they are a nice combination for walk arounds. I installed a focussing screen on my D700 and it makes it much easier to focus these lenses and also using the focus dot for confirmation. Using them on the Z camera is even good with focus peaking and IBIS with these old timers. Thank you for confirming the greatness of these beauties. Regards Gerry

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @patternsinsand
    @patternsinsand10 ай бұрын

    All good lenses but the big takeaway for me was being reminded how great the colours are coming off the D700. Will have to dust of my own neglected DSLR.

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    10 ай бұрын

    Totally agree

  • @henryIRL
    @henryIRL2 ай бұрын

    Great video! Do you know if the 50mm f/1.4 or the 105mm are optically different between the non-AI and Ai/AIS versions?

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    2 ай бұрын

    Not sure. My preference is to go for Ai/AiS versions, just for the convenience of compatibility across Nikon film and digital cameras.

  • @fotoamateur1620
    @fotoamateur16208 ай бұрын

    How did you manage to couple the lens with your D700 without damaging the aperture index tab (or the meter coupling lever; I don't know the right name! ) of the lens mount? I thought that it is not possible to mount Non-AI lenses with modern DSLR (except with the Nikon Df which has a movable meter coupling lever) unless you remodel the bayonet. I would like to mount such a vintage lens with my D500. I saw the first version of the Nikkor-P 10.5cm 1:2.5 in the movie "Three Days of the Condor" from 1975 a few days ago and since I did research on the lens. But I don't want to buy one of those lenses without knowing how to couple with my camera if possible at all. It would be nice if you can give me some advice. How did you deal with that problem? Thanks.

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    8 ай бұрын

    You are correct. The Non-AI lens coupling tab is not designed for the D700, D500 D850. It is possible to mount the lens, however the lens needs to be set to f22 when mounting and demounting the lens. If you mount the lens at f2.5. The coupling ring will interfere with the lens coupling tab, limiting the lens aperture movement to a range of f2.5 to f5.6 only. If you mount with the lens set to f22, the lens tab will be free of the coupling ring, letting you use the full range of apertures from f2.5 to f22. I borrowed this lens, so if I were to buy one, I would go the an AI or AI-S version to make sure I have proper light meter coupling with my D700, D500 and D850.

  • @fotoamateur1620

    @fotoamateur1620

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Adventure8 Thank you very much! That's good news with the "trick" to set the aperture to f22 when mounting the lens. Of course it would be easier and more convenient to go for an AI or AI-S version. However I want to try the older lens because of the different (and hopeful more special) optical formula. Thanks again and all the best for you.

  • @Brez6645

    @Brez6645

    4 ай бұрын

    @@fotoamateur1620 I was about to ask the same question but you put it far more eloquently than I could, and a big thanks also to the uploader for the information and work-around.

  • @AndrejsZavadskis
    @AndrejsZavadskis6 ай бұрын

    I see that this is not Sonnar-type lens. The Sonnar type is more optically inaccurate and more beautiful than pre AI, AI and AI-s

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @thewildgoose7467
    @thewildgoose74679 ай бұрын

    Hi, interesting video. However....you didn't choose the "right" 105mm lens. What do I mean by that? Well there are 3 versions of the pre-Ai 105mmf2.5. The first version has the focal length marked in cm (10.5cm), the second in mm (105mm) and the third has a black nose (The 1st and 2nd versions have a silver nose). So what difference does that make to image quality? Well the 1st and 2nd (not sure if all the 2nd) are a Sonnar design which gives the images a unique look. All the versions would have similar sharpness but the Sonnar versions have different rendering and color palette which is noticeable if viewing side by side with a 'normal' Nikkor. The easiest way to tell the difference is that the Sonnar rear element is smaller than the lens housing. You should definitely check out the 'Sonnar' version if you can because I think the images it produces might surprise you?

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    9 ай бұрын

    Fantastic comments. Glad you added this info for everyone's benefit. Will have to find a Sonnar version. Thanks.

  • @thewildgoose7467

    @thewildgoose7467

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Adventure8 Thanks for the reply. As more become aware of the 105 Sonnar version it's becoming more pricey. However what is less known is that the Nikkor Q 135mm f3.5 is also a Sonnar lens, and can still be picked up for under $50? Both are equally sharp wide open and both render images beautifully, and as a bonus both use the same filters and the same snap on Nikon lens hood. I've just checked and there's a 135 Sonnar on ebay selling for $24? The coupling prongs (rabbits ears) are missing (no need for them anyway if shooting digitally) and it's got clean glass. Maybe an opportunity for you to check out a Sonnar Nikon on the cheap? 😉

  • @Jeff-zc6rr

    @Jeff-zc6rr

    5 ай бұрын

    How do you know he has the wrong one?

  • @thewildgoose7467

    @thewildgoose7467

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Jeff-zc6rrThe black nose versions are the 3rd version and only 1st and SOME 2nd versions are Sonnar design. Also "The easiest way to tell the difference is that the Sonnar rear element is smaller than the lens housing."

  • @Moonlight_Dee
    @Moonlight_Dee8 ай бұрын

    Nice shots! Do you have any Nikon film camera recommendations? I bought a pre-ai version of this lens thinking it would fit on my d700/810, but also interested in shooting film!

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    8 ай бұрын

    Nikon FM2 is very popular. I still have my old Nikon F2.

  • @ziggyziggyz1756
    @ziggyziggyz17562 ай бұрын

    Is it just me or is your lens not sharp enough? I have the same one and starting with the Nikon D3, D4 and D5, it is very sharp from f2.5. Currently, I connected it to Hasselblad X1D with an adapter and the effect is really good. It's obvious that it's not medium format glass, but the resolution is good enough :) Regards and congratulations on good shots :) It's good that there is such material about this good glass.

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, much appreciated. Re its sharpness, I don't have the lens any more, had to return it to its owner. I'll have to get another version and do another test. Thanks for watching.

  • @alejoniux
    @alejoniux9 ай бұрын

    Im think in buying one, not converted. Do you have some info about how to convert into Ais? Thanks in advance!

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    9 ай бұрын

    Good question. The aperture ring at the base of the lens is different between an AI lens and non-AI. So I guess to convert a non-AI lens to AI means the aperture ring needs to be changed. Personally I wouldn’t bother. Either buy non-AI because you like the look or go for AI or AI-S to ensure light meter coupling.

  • @barclayjb
    @barclayjb10 ай бұрын

    I have the same 105 f2.5 as you, but I had mine "ai-ed" in 1980. Did the D700 have a flip-down aperture index tab so you could mount the non-ai lens?

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    10 ай бұрын

    No, the only way to couple the light meter of the D700 is via AI or AI-S lens. Non AI lenses, need to use manual and use the aperture stop down button for light metering.

  • @pjc3163

    @pjc3163

    5 ай бұрын

    You can't physically mount a non-AI lens on to a DSLR i.e the D700 without damaging the tab on the camera. You have to have the lens AI modified.

  • @pjc3163

    @pjc3163

    5 ай бұрын

    No such problem on a FTZ adaptor though.

  • @Cotictimmy
    @Cotictimmy4 ай бұрын

    I thought Pe-Ai lens mounts damaged DSLRs. Did this pre-Ai lens have an Ai conversion?

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    4 ай бұрын

    You are right. The pre AI lens is a close fit with the Nikon D850. The light meter coupling tab just fits over the collar of the lens. So you need to be careful when mounting the lens.

  • @hikingsteven7665
    @hikingsteven76653 ай бұрын

    can i convert my nikon 102 2,5 i think my lens are a non ai to fit my nikon d780

  • @Adventure8

    @Adventure8

    3 ай бұрын

    The D780 has the coupling ring for AI-S lenses. I don't know how you can convert a Non AI-S lens to couple. My suggestion, buy a used AI-S lens instead.

  • @hikingsteven7665

    @hikingsteven7665

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Adventure8 oh its an 105 Al lens

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