The fact it was all empty for Niji is crazy, then we have a room full of people with hololive.

@marshall7002

17 күн бұрын

It wasn’t even a normal room bro, they had a whole stadium 🙂

@ChaosBlueNathan

17 күн бұрын

@@marshall7002 Thats even crazier

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

​@@marshall7002Remember they can fill a entire Arena/Dome that is how good they are.

@rafiboy05

17 күн бұрын

Not just a room, it's the Rod Laver Arena. One of the stadiums where the Australian Open are held every year. They didn't use the entire stadium but still a pretty good turnout considering the concert itslef is tucked inside an e-sports/game convention.

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

​@@rafiboy05And the livers actually interacting with the audience the ones who made them rich and happy in the first place.

The price they're charging at niji for a glorified karaoke is genuinely an insult to the fans. Millie's model needed to turn on vsync because that thing was screen tearing like mad. She's not going anywhere. She's moving side to side. They handed Millie's name those L's on purpose 💀

@honestlymxy4850

17 күн бұрын

lmao this is killing me

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

Meanwhile Hololive charge 60 dollars on actual good concert events. Heck sometimes slash the price in half if they feel generous they do that for some concerts.

@cleeiii357

17 күн бұрын

Karma for what she has done.

@monlei1020

17 күн бұрын

Not enough L's 😂

@ryoumakoushiro7447

17 күн бұрын

Damn, went for the jugular, I like that

The Niji event looked like it was just a stream projected onto a screen. Like you were going to the cinemas to watch a live stream. Whereas Hololive's concert is an actual concert.

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

Yep and not only that the livers have more personality to. Being there interacting with the audience. Calli was the big example.

@NearN8

17 күн бұрын

well, at least the niji one was only like 10-20 bucks right?... right?

@greed-1914

17 күн бұрын

I think that would bother me more. Sold as a concert, and you get a karaoke stream.

@ABCD-ke9mj

17 күн бұрын

​@@NearN8Niji 2D concerts are much more expensive than hololive 3D concerts

@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726

17 күн бұрын

@@NearN8Niji con was 100$ normal seat, $150 premium seat. Hat are you smoking? 10-20 lol

As a Singaporean I didn’t even know the event existed there was no ads for it here whatsoever LOL

@dorogundam

17 күн бұрын

You think anycolor would spend money on advertising??😂😂😂😂

@eonix1543

17 күн бұрын

Seriously no ads for that event????

@tbtv6888

17 күн бұрын

Buy an ad 😂😂😂

@_zerstorer5094

17 күн бұрын

Riku Tazumi’s stingyness strikes again! Billion dollar worth company, everyone! 😂🎉

@scottiecurrie7927

17 күн бұрын

Riku would neuter someone if they suggested spending money to promote their company

Nijisanji: Pay 4+ Star prices for at best a 2 Star experience. Hololive: Pay only 2 Star prices for a 4+ Star experience.

@deadwise1896

17 күн бұрын

Based

@kirbyjoe7484

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, that about sums it up.

@morse2511

12 күн бұрын

Différence between a company that's actually wanna thrive for years and company who just wanted the money

@yume8149

8 күн бұрын

it's just the en branch actually. the jp branch always goes over and beyond, all with their 3d models, sometimes even changing outfits, interacting with the crowd, fan service, etc etc. in fact, kuzuha had a sold out solo concert. en branch (and enikara's greed) is truly the downfall of nijisanji.

This is to show the great difference between professional dedicated staff and two months contract high school part timers.

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

Also livers who really love their job Vs those just in for the Moola. The difference is so clear many know right away.

@salkryeful

17 күн бұрын

I seen some presentations from high schoolers look much better and professional than the bs that Nijisanji has been spitting out tbh.

@SenseiRaisen

17 күн бұрын

Even Idol ES trailer has even more work than this or even any Nijisanji announcement.

@rpchn5698

17 күн бұрын

Bro has million dollar at disposal from selling stock and none of that goes to hiring good staff instead they hire student + Elira to manage everyone 💀 Elira low key also victim of the system

@dragongod999x7

17 күн бұрын

There are high school students who are there in line with quality, and nijisanji hired below average high school students to be their staff with below avergae minimum wage truly a sinking yacht

I like how both Rhapsody and DreamHack occurred at the same time. It’s the IRL version of Jack’s backstory where Pinocchio gets all the attention.

@ArseneaLupin

17 күн бұрын

I bet this is how sisters is gonna spin this, Rhapsody's failure was due to Dreamhack taking all the fans... Honestly if they did spin it like that, it'll gonna be so funny.

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

​@@ArseneaLupinEspecially this event is using my country Singapore to represent them. Insulting to be honest. I rather have Holo come here.

@The_Scarecrow51

17 күн бұрын

@@ShioriNovelite1 Oof. My sympathies, Comrade.

@raylenn4444

17 күн бұрын

​@@ShioriNovelite1haiya... those niji folks are stoopid lah! Truly a buncha failures leh!

@THEBADTAKEWITHJJ

17 күн бұрын

​@@ArseneaLupinadmitting that will cement their position as the inferior of the two. But who knows what kind of Clownery they're gonna pull. 😅

Jeez, Niji really is trying to squeeze every yen it can out of EN before they nuke it.

@ainzer2903

17 күн бұрын

Fr Fr Fr

@SithLadyLumiya

17 күн бұрын

4th quarter ends at the end of April. It covers all the controversies that have happened and the report comes out in June and the shareholders have a meeting in July. It’s extremely likely that after that there won’t be a NijiEn branch anymore.

@johnlau6749

17 күн бұрын

​@@SithLadyLumiyabro, the problem is that last quarter already so f*ed up. I mean 40% revenue drop compared to same quarter last year!!!?? that's a disgrace

@updateguypls1088

17 күн бұрын

@@johnlau6749 John Bungie would be proud of a revenue drop like that

@Arigator2

17 күн бұрын

To be fair Niji has been that way all along. They even cozy up to the Chinese Communist Party for a few bucks.

best part of the hololive event was when the crowd shouted JDON MY SOUL at bae LOLOLOL

@kylewoodowens4488

17 күн бұрын

I saw the sign that one guy made. Hilarious. Love seeing support for the rat

@lyravain6304

17 күн бұрын

For me, who only watched the free version, it was when the crowd began shouting "SANA" over and over again. Call me emotional, but dayum, she really left an imprint on everyone.

@alanepithet2931

17 күн бұрын

@@lyravain6304Of course she left a mark on everyone, Sana was BEEEEEEG after all.

@matasa7463

17 күн бұрын

The hall was filled, the crowd was all HoloFans, the energy was off the charts, people were saying it was basically like another Fes concert, and of course, all the HoloMerch being shown by the fans, who are clearly stoked to be there. DreamHack even questioned if this should be an ongoing tradition for them, simply due to how big of a splash Hololive made. I can foresee another concert at another DreamHack soon.

@TanNguyen-js7uv

17 күн бұрын

@@kylewoodowens4488 the only confusing thing was why did the intro screen spell haros baelz wrong? everybody knows that k is an R. lol.

Performing for an empty audience must be one of the worst feelings. Many years ago I organized a fundraiser concert with just me and a few friends performing and I'm pretty sure I had more people in the audience than this. I hope for the perfomers' sake they weren't told/didn't know the venue was empty until after the performance was over.

@Eiji475

17 күн бұрын

They didn't even "perform" it was a prerecorded karoke collab. Like imagine being charged $110 to go to the movies that's basically what it was lmao

@sharrdextera9099

17 күн бұрын

​@@Eiji475 very ironic, isn't it 😏

@senny-

17 күн бұрын

​@@Eiji475 I'm not laying 100 dollars for a movie ticket lmao

@alanepithet2931

17 күн бұрын

@@Eiji475 Not even the movies; movies have actual production value and usually years of work. Niji 'concerts' seem like 30 minutes of editing by an under-grad and a couple hours recording karaoke at home.

@neoshinji18

17 күн бұрын

@@Eiji475 I feel like it is paying that money in order to watch VOD!

Millie having 3 Ls isn't a spelling mistake, it's Accurate She keeps taking Ls just like Niji

@mukti5896

17 күн бұрын

Good One😂

@Verxx-sc2tl

17 күн бұрын

Niji love their L a little too much

@enoki_suki

17 күн бұрын

LMAO GOOD ONEE

@sharrdextera9099

17 күн бұрын

You got the point, very accurate 😅

@Yoshioka_Kiyoe

17 күн бұрын

Bruhh good one LMAOOO

The event looks like a glorified powerpoint lecture with darker lights

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

Meanwhile with Holo a big giant party for about half the price!

@MarineRX179

17 күн бұрын

@@ShioriNovelite1 More like quarter of the price, if you consider that they charge twice one for 1st half and again for 2nd half lol

@matasa7463

17 күн бұрын

Hololive ran a mini concert and AniRevo in Vancouver, and they featured Moona and Risu basically doing a Karaoke like they were in an off collab, and the room was fucking filled to the brim! I had to sit all the way to the side, but god damn the energy in the room was insane. It was such a great concert, way better than what Niji had, even though the production value was way lower. Also, the stuff they put together for the concert wasn't actually half bad. Hell, they had cameras up for Moona and Risu, and they were doing attendee highlight cams, and people started doing Honkai Star Rail pulls lol. Moona and Risu were laughing about it when they came on. The Q&A session with Ina and Fauna was also jam packed and really fun. Lots of fans showed up in costumes (one guy was a full bodysuit Takodachi) and everyone had a blast chatting with Fauna and Ina.

Niji EN still hasn't addressed their controversies. People assume all the rumors are true, and no one has defended themselves or clarified anything. How could anyone care at this point.

@farhanrizkiahnafa7404

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, I already witness some vtuber agencies that's worse than Niji (e.g. WACTOR, Akio Air, OWOZU), yet no one besides LATAM folks are giving s***.

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

Enna and Millie are 2 members who did saying Niji is not black company and say to her own fans they are mentally ill for critical of Niji.

@dilithiumgunner8095

17 күн бұрын

normally, the best thing for a company to do IS to ignore controversies. You ride out the wave of outrage until it dies down and people move on to a new outrage. Niji's problem, though, is they keep getting more and more controversies and so none of them have a chance to die down.

@kostya555666

17 күн бұрын

@@dilithiumgunner8095 Nah. There are 2 types of controversies. Usually yes you just ignore and move on. But this one is very... Smearing? I don't think i would be able to enjoy their content again with this second thought on the back of my mind. Like... This one put a LIFE at risk. Life threatening ones should and MUST be adressed. Its like construction worker got permanent brain injury from falling screwdriver and construction company STILL didn't give anyone helmets. Not only that but every other company flexes their protecive gear, reminding everyone of this situation.

@ainzer2903

17 күн бұрын

Nah its not that no one defended them but their self-defense efforts are sucks or rather self-destruct themselves

We are beginning to see the difference in investing in your paycheck vs investing in your talents. The way Yagoo seems to truly care about his employees (not just the talents but everyone in their company) is truly something special. He’s got a skill and a passion that some other ceo seems to be lacking.

@connorradcliffe1769

17 күн бұрын

you could easily see that when Nijisanji's president did that apology video, he could not have looked less sympathetic or concerned, and just looked moody/annoyed that he had to do it to save some part of the company's reputation

@Tyyin.

17 күн бұрын

Exactly, Yagoo is a smart man. He probably wants to only work with people who he genuinely likes and is good for his company then does his job like a normal boss behind the scenes I really don’t understand why Riku is this dense and greedy man

@EdDiaz-fz4kj

17 күн бұрын

The story of Miko says all, Yagoo believe and support her when things were Bad at the Star of her career and now she is a big star, in niji all the stories always star with the talent talking about how the company basically sabotaged them

@konaqua122

17 күн бұрын

@@connorradcliffe1769 Their CEO looked like a spoiled kid who was given a company by his dad. He doesn't know how to handle what happened and him being introvert showed on that video. I don't think/feel that he was not sympathetic. He just don't know how to handle being on screen. He's like Yagoo during the concert visits but make it 10x more introvert.

@RhythmandFlorence

17 күн бұрын

@@EdDiaz-fz4kj I don’t think my dear Haachama would still be employed at Kurosanji. And his support for Holostars when they had a rough time. That clip where Suisei talks about crying with him. He’s on another level

Damn this is just Sad now. Their CEO attended Someone else's Concert but not theirs. I watched the Free Preview of DreamHack and the Fans Were so Hyped up it became Annoyingly amusing. The difference is just Great now.

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

If Yagoo can find time to attend the concerts in Person that shows how much he loves his company & fans. We as his fans love him back. 🫶

@sumotony

17 күн бұрын

Fan hype also maybe Sana (australian) could have appeared

@gabetalks9275

17 күн бұрын

How is fans being hyped annoying in any way? It's infectious.

@0cluealley

17 күн бұрын

​@@ShioriNovelite1yahoo attends a concert as an impromptu kinda thing->fan gave takodachi figures->months later botan bday(or smtg like that) had yagoo cameo with his office included->the two takodachi figures were on it That was literally my favorite turn of events ever lmao

@defaulted9485

17 күн бұрын

​@@0cluealleyYagoo could have gotten a love letter at high school and that would be his family heirloom. Thats why people loves the man, the king, the legend, the best girl.

I only feel bad for the talent, imagin walking into a stage thinking your fans are there but they're not, that wouldve crush my self-esteem if that were me.

@cleeiii357

17 күн бұрын

Karma, that's what they get.

@Avgvstz

17 күн бұрын

@@cleeiii357 karma for what? Cause there are talent that are genuinely unproblematic, I just feel bad for them.

@lsebastian9086

17 күн бұрын

@@cleeiii357 There were some talents who did cause problems, but there were others who did not deserve to carry the burdens caused by the company

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

​@@cleeiii357Even when I said karma it is for those who deserve it. There are some livers who I feel actually sad but I I hope they can find success outside of Nijisanji.

@izilladkilla

17 күн бұрын

​@cleeiii357 Look, there might be some bad apples in the talent, but most of them are genuinely nice people who don't really deserve what's happening to them because of the company.

Remember, everyone: "Negligible"

@farhanrizkiahnafa7404

17 күн бұрын

Not if it's wactor (iykyk)

I would really like to know where Nijisanji puts their money because they clearly dont invest it back into the business which as a business owner myself boggles the f**king mind because its a horrible choice you can make and almost ensures your failure. How does niji talent not have a 3D model? completely unreal to me.

@ABCD-ke9mj

17 күн бұрын

They have invested their money in luxury yachts

@irfanalfian8164

17 күн бұрын

Allegedly? Something called stock buybacks.

@haruusami1831

17 күн бұрын

Some higher ups are pocketing the money~~~, that's the only real explanation lol. Or they focused too much on JP branch for advertisement,goods etc that they couldn't care about EN or any other branch.

@senoalamsyah7481

17 күн бұрын

Because it Niji. Niji vtuber are 2D on purpose since that 2D is what make them back then different from Kizuna AI 3D. They promoting that vtuber can success with only a 2D. But it was back then when they are started as an agency, then vtuber scene change and they are failed to adapt then now not having 3D is really limited their grown and opportunity.

@haruusami1831

17 күн бұрын

@@senoalamsyah7481 Looks at other Agency especially hololive, nah its just mismanagement, not investing much on their talents and not trying to improve their business. if they really wanted to make concert etc they should have invested heavily in 3D, but they didn't, if 2D is all they wanted they should have just stick to 2D invest on talents that are good at singing and make original songs they don't need to dance. In short anycolor invested so little to improve their business while maximing profit that's their motto hence why so many talents.

The concert colors seem off, kinda like my old gpu before it died, where it would have pink, purple or yellow saturation, causing the colors to appear too bright or have an off color look to them. Someone should have looked over on how it looked, like a technician and see if they couldnt fix it.

@matheusps92

17 күн бұрын

It's crazy because the AR Live's colors were also kinda off - at least considering the images I saw.

@Deadsnake989

17 күн бұрын

It's probably because we're seeing it from a recording of the screen. That'll always skew things a bit.

@Joe-be6nz

17 күн бұрын

"nijien is kinda like my old gpu before it died" Sounds about right

@alanepithet2931

17 күн бұрын

"Someone should have looked over on how it looked, like a technician and see if they couldnt fix it." Implying that Nijisanji cared enough to pay a technician to be on-site to handle technical issues... that's a pretty bold claim.

Every time I see any of the latest Niji "concerts" it reminded me of that one story of the indie vtuber who held a FREE concert and people give him all the bad reviews. At least he is an indie, not a multi millionaire company

@foursoup7922

17 күн бұрын

The one who went viral because audience went wild when he showed his eyes? I think his case is just reaching the wrong audience with that virality lol

@izzadk86

17 күн бұрын

@@foursoup7922 I don't remember that part, but IIRC people were complaining cause the "concert" looks just like niji is doing (a 2d karaoke) but the were mistaking the entrance to the whole event payment as the concert's viewing payment and they were complaining something like "you need to pay $10 (I don't remember the exact amount) for a 2D karaoke session"

@FuMiO02110

17 күн бұрын

Yes its the same guy, Da Capo? I think? And IIRC he's not really an Indie

@akitohimenokoji

17 күн бұрын

@@FuMiO02110 He's actually in a company called Algorhythm Project or ARP for short I believe they are from Taiwan. I only know this because one of the members from ARP Evalia collabed with Axel from Holostars was looking around through her colleagues and recognized a familiar face or should I say his eyes.

@FuMiO02110

17 күн бұрын

@@akitohimenokoji Thank you for more info

I wonder how the livers feel. Confused at why so many people not attending haha that is actual karma right there.

@farhanrizkiahnafa7404

17 күн бұрын

How about JP livers, though? Wonder if they're aware with the whole "Kurosanji", "black company", and "evil company" thing.

@rubiobipolar7332

17 күн бұрын

Karma why? Why are you so sure that everyone deserves that? I understand that you don't support nijisanji (I wouldn't either) but the talents are just working to survive.

@johnreignebaleos2613

17 күн бұрын

​@@rubiobipolar7332survive and most of them protecting there evil boss yeah sounds about right

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

​@@rubiobipolar7332Some livers doesn't deserve it yeah but unless we Boycott to the point they wake up I have no remorse boycotting then.

@seppuku404

17 күн бұрын

​@@rubiobipolar7332naaah. It IS Karma. Atleast to most of their top talents. Don't forget how the talents themselves threw their ex-talents under the bus and downplay the situation especially where someone LITERALLY tried to kill herself twice just to protect and lick the soles of the feet of their NijiMasters. And i say all of them deserve this even those who did not speak up since they still chose to ride this sinking yacht. Watching this downfall might be really sad but itnis well deserved.

Sometimes I’m still surprised they are still able to keep going without thinking back

@0oAnripuppywatching

17 күн бұрын

very true

@signumxmagnum

17 күн бұрын

Like the Niji ID was removed without any sign. Just day one, the management in ID leaves, then the merger, then the removal. Maybe the EN would have the same destiny.

@moersertrupp

17 күн бұрын

well looking at the quality of their products and what they pay there talents, they dont have a lot of spending, so yeah^^

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

​@@0oAnripuppywatchingHad they tried to invest in those talents the concerts like this rn would have been better. They decided to be cheap so this is their consequence.

@FrarmerFrank

17 күн бұрын

Oh Riku terminated those intern "Lawyers" after that piss faced video which is why there was quite a few job openings shortly after ☕😹👍 I guess they can find event planners on Fiver now without Selen's money and it shows 😹

I expected low quality trash. But I didn't expected what I saw lol. And the fact that like 25-30 people attended makes it more sad. Meanwhile Hololive in Melbourne is a big success! Even they are surprised because according to them it should've been less than half of what they got.

@PotatoSalad23

17 күн бұрын

The funny thing also I think Hololive expected a lot of normies in their crowd for them to explain what are vtubers at the start of the concert..

@squalleonkeneddyheart4191

17 күн бұрын

@@PotatoSalad23 when I saw that I was like "are they giving a crash course about Vtubers right now?" Then I saw some twitter reactions that said it's their first time attending a Vtuber concert and they had a good time. They have no idea they experienced the ONLY good concert lol

@MonKayWi

17 күн бұрын

Another thing to note is the official merch for the Dreamhack concert, the penlight sold out and each of those lights cost 50$ in Autralian currency

@dorogundam

17 күн бұрын

The setup for the holoconcert was 3 times better than mikuexpo2024 😂

@stinopharan5528

17 күн бұрын

​@@dorogundamI blame Crunchyroll, stingy when it comes to spending money on the expo

As a singaporean, I didn’t know this happened

@PekoraWhitemage

17 күн бұрын

They probably didn't pay for advertisements in your country! xD

*Conglatulation* to *Millle* for her performance

@leonmystique9372

17 күн бұрын

Love how Milllie is blackened

$110 concert, $7/hour employees tells you everything you need to know.

I honestly feel awful about this. Some of those talents definitely deserve the reality check but some of them are just casualties and it makes me sad that they have to go through this

@signumxmagnum

17 күн бұрын

You don't have to, some of the genuinely wanted to still be in there.

@groerhahn225

17 күн бұрын

Leaving Nijisanji is always an option.

@salty7182

17 күн бұрын

leaving nijisanji is always an option

@lucas1309

17 күн бұрын

"You could you know, just ask to leave Nijisanji!"

@josephgomez5566

17 күн бұрын

You don't know the talents situations and what could possibly the cause for not leaving, don't asume things about the inocent ones.

Dude last year, HoloID held SEA concert with 4 member (Moona,Risu,Reine,Kobo) and its all 3D on professional stage, New song made by famous indonesian song writer also cheaper ticket too. Compare to NijiEN Rhapsody its like day and night.

2:51 damn, Luca and Uki sit next to each other?!?!?! That's crazy... 😅

@gothcsm

17 күн бұрын

Terrible people tend to attract other terrible people, what can I say, LMAO.

@darrelsam419

17 күн бұрын

Really hilarious to see then next to each other when they should hate each other with their biases.

@doodoowater7863

14 күн бұрын

can i know the context behind this comment?? did something new about these two come out or something?

@darrelsam419

14 күн бұрын

@@doodoowater7863 Uki hates white people, and Luca's ex leaked some of his private chats which included him making homophobic and transphobic comments. Uki is gay, and Luca is part Filipino, part white. So by their logic, they would hate each other.

@FattyKung

10 күн бұрын

I uncomfortable with Chinese people, I still watch Enna clip sometimes in the past, and I didn't feel bad knowing she's Chinese. Because she's not the one yelling and speaking their language carelessly at my country Human is not that simple mind you guys

Slight correction. Niji is not a multi-billion dollar company anymore. It is currently just shy of being a one-billion dollar company. (Their actual value is much lower, but apples to apples on market cap they've dropped 65% from 2022 peak, and about 40% from the 2024 high in February) Negligible.

@ainzer2903

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, just give it a month and people will call them 1 billion company while the company is way under at that time😂

Ah, I remember times when fans comparing Niji and Holo concert like Holo more Idolish and Niji more Chaotic/Free, how time has change..

@ainzer2903

17 күн бұрын

Now, Holo is a legit entertainment company with both Idols and comedians and Niji is just a black underground Idol company

@AO968

17 күн бұрын

Yup, even I was guilty of doing that. Even after Sayu's whistle blowing and knowing what went on behind the scenes, I kept on watching their talents. Selen's termination changed all that and exposed just how corrupt and greedy this company really is, and how much better Hololive is by comparison.

@alfredong6850

17 күн бұрын

Here's the thing. I dislike Holo's focus on idol stuff and singing. I am initially attracted to Niji's approach of "normal people streaming as friends" concept. Then these happen. I want legit competition. I want Hololive to feel threatened. But NijiEN fails as the alternative. The alternative needs to combine the virality and cult sensation of Holo with the original vision of NijiEN.

they most likely invited what small crowd was there to move up closer to the screen to make the optics look better 😂

When I saw that price comparison, my jaw dropped. That, with the spelling issue shit, and then, the quality of the shows, Jesus Christ Niji, you greedy pricks, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!

@ainzer2903

17 күн бұрын

Dont forget that Niji not even put local ads so many singaporean missed the concert😂

@Willimann

17 күн бұрын

@@ainzer2903 missed the concert? brotha they missed absolutly nothing.

@theghostoftom

17 күн бұрын

Oof, not even local advertising and charging way over? They could have gone the complete other way, charge low and bring in people who have no idea what vtubers are (or what Niji has done). That Holo's DreamHack had so many first timers that they felt the need to explain they weren't AI and could actually see the audience. That's base proof it could have worked.

@AusSP

16 күн бұрын

@@theghostoftom Well, Dreamhack was planned that they needed to explain, but with the extra paid ticket and the sheer amount of penlights, it felt very unnecessary. It was hard for me to believe that anyone would pay to get in just because they were curious. Not impossible, but that wasn't my impression.

@AusSP

16 күн бұрын

You actually had to pay to get into the Dreamhack Expo as well, so it was an extra ~$30 USD on top of the Hololive ticket price.

The fact that you can see the mouse cursor. OH NO! This is not good.

This is a perfect example of 'you reap what you sow'

@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache

17 күн бұрын

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Good heavens, the fact that there are so many empty chairs speaks volumes. Nijisanjis yacht keeps on sinking deeper and deeper. But remember, this is the result of their poor decisions for months now.

@BeyondDaX

17 күн бұрын

Yeah but that only applies to Nijisanji EN, JP still making bank. That's the spin these nijisisters will continue to give

@zen8809

17 күн бұрын

The yacht is basically on the ocean floor now😂

@groerhahn225

17 күн бұрын

Months? Years!

@ShioriNovelite1

17 күн бұрын

​@@zen8809Meanwhile the Hololive girls are laughing at them from the Cruise Ship surrounded by family and audience even best girl Yagoo.

@TAKOssrb

17 күн бұрын

@@ShioriNovelite1 best gril aura is warm and shine his aura will protect every family he have and every partner he have.. that is best gril aura passive skill.. unlike other side "god?!!?!?!?!? (self proclaimed)" that suck all life energy from his area with him as the center. (aoe effect aura)

Our expectations for VR was low, but HOLY FUCK!

It's almost like they don't want to admit overwhelming defeat. They might have been able to damage control if they took iniative very early. But they didn't cut their losses, they take this opportunity to double down as they have nothing to lose. Pathetic.

Damn, Khyo is almost at 100k. He's gonna get his own play button!

@siriusblack6527

17 күн бұрын

And he gonna sing Gyatt for Nerizzler! 😂

@ivrgn1720

17 күн бұрын

And he doesnt have to ask for it.

@venomark7883

17 күн бұрын

Don't let Niji take the play button💀🤣

@cheemslord9917

17 күн бұрын

why he not ask ??

@FattyKung

16 күн бұрын

@@cheemslord9917right, he can just ask

remember that time those ninji talents got caught trash talking hololive as inferior.

@kylewoodowens4488

17 күн бұрын

Negligible

@_armoredglasscannon2520

16 күн бұрын

Fun times, now look at them especially the fact Fulgur cannot travel to Japan 🤣👏👏👏

@smod15

15 күн бұрын

As much as I hate nijisanji, I don't think I've heard them saying specifically that Hololive is inferior? Unless you were talking about the leaked discord chat, which is just them discussing how bad Holo(I forgot the name but its mostly mens group) was performing at that time. Anyway, sucks that the vtuber community is getting hella toxic. I doubt I'll return to watching vtubers anytime soon.

@darkpotato8622

9 күн бұрын

​@@smod15it's just Nijisanji that is the black sheep of the industry, look at the holofest for example

It should be noted: It's almost guaranteed that Niji-staff is blaming the talents for the low turn-out. The talents are probably getting verbally abused and punished by staff and being made to feel like it was all their fault. If you want to mock Nijisanji over this (which they absolutely deserve) remember to do it from a perspective that the talents are victims in this and deserve better (better than Niji).

@signumxmagnum

17 күн бұрын

You mean the management and managers.

@habadini

17 күн бұрын

I'm really glad for whoever that already graduated.

@cleeiii357

17 күн бұрын

"Leaving Nijisanji is always an option."

@cubix_walrus7560

17 күн бұрын

​@@cleeiii357 that's a massive red herring, it implies that they can just up and leave at any time, but to leave an agency, you have to either get terminated or graduate, the latter of which is dependent on when Niji sets it and being announced to the public a month in advance.

@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726

17 күн бұрын

⁠@@cubix_walrus7560They put quotations because that’s what Vox said. “If Selen hated it here so much, she could have just graduated anytime she wanted and even said she would many times. Yet for some reason she never did.”

It's like membership only pre recorded karaoke

Lmao that "cursor dance" got me😂

Singaporean here, not surprised , there were no ads whatsoever, no one was talking about it, only time i heard about this event was when i watched Khyo. Plus, i dont think Singaporeans would take one 1-day leave for this event.

@ainzer2903

17 күн бұрын

And the prices is too high for college students

@kylewoodowens4488

17 күн бұрын

$110 Karaoke stream Vs $32 Live 3D Concert

@stonecianomars5838

17 күн бұрын

@ainzer2903 Yeah, plus living here is expensive enough. Who's got the money and leave to spend on watching a big projected screen.

@emilchan5379

14 күн бұрын

This took place on Saturday, so no need to take leave unless you work shifts. But yeah there was no advertising at all, and the tickets were rather expensive.

Alright I'll be the one to say it, Nijisanji is a SCAM COMPANY. I don't know what more proof do you need; Livers barley earn any money and can go into debt, workplace conditions are a free for all basically, and the fans get fed low quality products. Like where is Niji's money even going at this point?! Riku needs to be investigated cause something is not adding up here.

@BeyondDaX

17 күн бұрын

It looks like a scam company but it's your typical JP Short term profit company. Riku is just greedy much like how the CEO of Nexas is gonna be that greedy

@groerhahn225

17 күн бұрын

I'm pretty sure Riku Tazumi is trying to get as much money out of this as possible and actively lets the whole company run on life support. I mean, if you look at their public financial records, that is literally what is happening. Nothing gets reinvested, tens of millions of dollars just reamain unused. I think he genuinely exclusively cares about money and has zero passion for Vtubing or even just beeing good at what he does. It is pure, raw greed.

@raylenn4444

17 күн бұрын

And it will get him burned as the fires of greed are like the sun that brined icarus's wings.​@@groerhahn225

@KharaChmiel

17 күн бұрын

And now we have Nexus which looks to be Nijisanji x 100000. Battle royales for your talent? Debuting 100 talents all at once with performance-based pay on a platform that no one has heard of and is in alpha? Someone took a look at Nijisanji and said SIGN ME UP FOR CRAZY! lol.

@Goleon

17 күн бұрын

@@BeyondDaX- Dude stop the copium. Japan has way more companies that aren’t like Nijisanji than ones that are. America has more and even then it’s not this bad. Nijisanji makes Amazon look good. I repeat Nijisanji is so bad that Amazon is basically better in comparison.

the niji concert was just a glorified collab stream. no effort whatsoever but the nijishitters ate that up

😢I remember reading a comment that said, "if they make selen graduate it will be a big L for nijiEN" and sure enough, the fact that Selen was terminated made things even worse I'm starting to feel sorry for the livers that aren't involved in the drama,

@natsudragneel-ir7sr

17 күн бұрын

if they just let her graduate, things would have ended peacefully. Even if they terminate the contract, things still could have ended pretty well for them with minimal backlash (I want to say negligible but I'm not memeing so I'll use different word) if they had gone about it in more neutral way. Just the standard termination notice "We choose to end contract due to disagreement from both side etc.." without saying bad things about her.

I just noticed while watching this video, something that makes the millie misspelling even more embarrassing is they spell it right on the very same slide. The part in big yellow letters has 3 L's but the lower right has her name spelled correctly. Wth

Obviously the Nijisisters will only flock towards the male livers but still with that price for a 2D karaoke is just mind blowing. I’d rather pay $140 to watch the Fishman’s girls create chaos

Putting aside everything that happened so far, all the dramas etc., at this point I just feel bad for livers in Niji

@connorradcliffe1769

17 күн бұрын

while there might be some members that are innocent and just feel stuck with nijisanji, there are others that are probably happy to go along with nijisanji, time will tell if they will change after graduation and have a similar story to kyo, mysta and co

it's just a matter of time before Riku cost cuts and relegate nijiEN to the same status as KR,ID,IN hahahaha it's going to be really funny when that happens

@BeyondDaX

17 күн бұрын

Yeah and Riku will still be making money so long he has people like Kuzuha around

@mostpolitebot1464

17 күн бұрын

@@BeyondDaX I'm just satisfied watching nijiEN fall off since it's pretty unrealistic to think that Riku will go bankrupt anytime soon unless he commits an actual crime like tax evasion, securities fraud or insider trading

@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726

17 күн бұрын

@@BeyondDaXDoesn’t Kuzu mean trash? Weird name.

@BeyondDaX

17 күн бұрын

@@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726 Maybe so but he has a legion of female fans that worship the very air he breathes and puts money into Riku's undeserving pockets

@Muallasss

17 күн бұрын

It is sad for me. But I believe it can happen anytime.

This makes me sad. Coming to an event as a performer, expecting a warm reception just to see that only a hand full of people care would absolutely destroy me. I didn't watch the event, even digitally, but I do respect the talents if they managed to hold themselves together during their performance. But I also feel bad for the fans that were looking forward to the event. Showing up in person, looking forward to feeling some comradery and sense of community and not only being one of the only people in an empty room, but also paying for the privilege to see a very low quality production must make you feel pretty dumb. I really hope the appropriate lessons are being learned, because at this point the only people happy are probably the ones looking for a trashfire.

that was straight up embarrassing. and the ticket price comparison it almost looked like it got swapped or something golly.

Dreamhack concert was so good! The most hype song was ollie, reine, and marine doing blue clapper!!!!!

@arizona_anime_fan

17 күн бұрын

i thought ollie and bae doing Q was absolute fire.

@jimmy_ink

17 күн бұрын

@@arizona_anime_fan NAH OLLIE AND BAE BUSTIN OUT Q WAS INSAAAAAAAANE!!!! AND SENCHOU BACKING CALLI ON FUTURE ISLAND GADDDAAAMMMMMMM

@thefakecoconut

17 күн бұрын

High tide also came out of nowhere

@jimmy_ink

17 күн бұрын

@@thefakecoconut REINE HIGH TIDE WITH TOWA ENGLISH BACKING?!?!?! AINT NO WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY

@BoiLeek

17 күн бұрын

@@arizona_anime_fan I was praying Q would be performed but I didn't expect bae and ollie to jump in and do it!

It is kinda expected for that Niji live event to be almost empty with all drama they had

The Miku Expo Concert Event is much better than the Virtual Rhapsody Nijisanji concert.

@mukti5896

17 күн бұрын

Don't compare that shit to Miku😅

@Hunoa44

17 күн бұрын

Dont insult the OG of great virtual idols!

@kosmalover

17 күн бұрын

@@mukti5896 no mikuexpo this year was absolute dogshit like it was a screen with miku on it + some horror stories about the actual venue and stuff (iirc someone pissed on the floor and everyone around them just had to. stand in it cuz it was so full)

@mukti5896

17 күн бұрын

@@kosmalover True enough but still comparing an actual Person with a Program is not the same.

@lucyloveskaito

15 күн бұрын

Fr 😭

As a Singaporean and an avid niji fan, I’d like to say: yes I knew about this performance but I didn’t go. There’s quite a few factors actually: 1. They started marketing this event on social media not long after the whole selen/doki controversy so obviously it was when a lot of people decided to take a break from nijisanji (including myself) 2. I don’t think it was marketed outside of social media (other than 1 Instagram page I didn’t see any other info about it) 3. The tickets are expensive. (Do keep in mind that Singapore had just went through like 3 concert fevers from Taylor Swift, Cold Play and Bruno Mars so a lot of people are broke + I’m just a zero income student so I can’t afford) 4. All the other avid cosplayers and otakus were at another anime convention (Doujima and AFAID) during the same weekend. 5. While a large portion of otakus are adults with disposable income, another large portion of otakus are also students who are busy studying (most students have tuition etc. on the weekends so the event being held on a random Saturday and not during the holidays does not help) * otakus in this sense would be niji’s target audience

Honestly, it's almost unfair to compare Niji concerts to Holo concerts since the two company really doesn't focus on the same things. But watching Niji get slammed for the shit their EN branch does is really satisfying.

The people who make the decisions in nijisanji especially on the en side got to be the dumbest people ever. Like who set up there and thought it would be a good idea for a 100 dallor concert with just 2D while your rival agency having a 70 dallor concert with 3D.

@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726

17 күн бұрын

I thought it was 50-60 for normal seats?

@SilverNightbane

17 күн бұрын

​​@@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726 Not even that, it was 33 USD against 110 USD. The disparity in price for quality is fucking insane.

@NoKrAzYz

17 күн бұрын

@@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726 The Niji Online Tickets cost more than the Holo reg in person tickets

@jack90054

17 күн бұрын

On the EXACT Same fuckin day too! They really thought they can still “compete” with Hololive.

i still remember when Niji EN mocking or laughing Hololive EN on Discord, and look at them now XD

@kanzaki2672

14 күн бұрын

What's that again, "Council is not as successful as Myth"? And the one who said it is from Noctyx, a sorry duplicate of Luxiem (which now crumbles too anyway) 😂

@akai96

14 күн бұрын

"nijisanji thriving, hololive is in shambles lmao" bet the guy who said that feel stupid right now 🤣

A houndred and WHAT?????? Holy...

Man the crappy quality of the event makes me kind of feel bad for the talents… Niji won’t pay for them to actually have anything decent, just leech off them for cash

So where are the nijisisters who swore they're gonna protect the company and their "precious" top favorite livers? I thought they are capable of supporting them till death

@demoman858

17 күн бұрын

They're still supporting them. This is nothing

For those outrageous prices they demanded, I would expect a masterpiece. But it's Niji, sooo.... they didn't even try. Not only was Hololive cheaper, but their performance was many leagues above them. Also MILLLE? I know they are taking L's, but that's ridiculous.... 💀

The fact Nijisanji shows that thier talents can perform in 3D via AR Live gives hope the Virtual Rapsody is a surprise 3D concert but its just a blatant money grab scheme

@signumxmagnum

17 күн бұрын

They did not do wrong though, it was shown in the promotional, 2D spinning Yay..

@RaNClD

3 күн бұрын

The Mouse cursor looks 3D enough for me 💀

The fact that Shu is the only one in this concert that isn't problematic is insane.

@mushroomexpress3049

17 күн бұрын

Alban???

@PekoraWhitemage

17 күн бұрын

@@mushroomexpress3049 Holostars seem to like him, so unless he did some really bad stuff he is cool as well.

@ana_why12

17 күн бұрын

@@mushroomexpress3049 Apologizes! I just woke up from a nap lol. I would say Alban is in the good for now, along with Sonny too! But that's just my opinion.

@ll-O

17 күн бұрын

​@@ana_why12not sure about Sonny btw. Maybe right now he's ok, but he has quite amusing previous life...

@Valentines16

17 күн бұрын

Shu? Not problematic huh really? Well, i still remember back the he was talking shit about holo back then on discord lmao

Nijisanji EN’s demise proceeding full speed.

I was at the dreamhack venue and the quality between Dreamhack and what i saw of Virtual Rhapsody was shocking.

The crowd at hololive were amazing. (My voice is gone still lol)

@kylewoodowens4488

17 күн бұрын

The atmosphere is really amazing during Holo concerts. I remember the clip of the 2 fans dancing with each other to Nenes song and dance.

And then there is Ducky who i was on DreamHack. Literally one of the people who is thought to be a hardcore Nijisister, was at a Hololive Event. I guess he can't beat the weasel allegations too.

@Verxx-sc2tl

17 күн бұрын

Can't wait for that guy to praise this "concert" as the best ever in the industry

@SenseiRaisen

17 күн бұрын

@@Verxx-sc2tl And trying to desecrate DreamHack... despite he attend it that one. Also the fact that guy is known to be a weasel as well, since Niji is on the losing side now.

What they're doing there is what they're doing on a normal karaoke stream. It's just that the screen is a lot bigger lmaooo

I feel sad for ONE of the livers being a part of this, empty and expensive karaoke stream which the management called "A CONCERT" Meanwhile in Hololive, now that's what you call "A CONCERT"

The yacht is at the bottom of the ocean and it still manages to catch on fire Like something out of spongebob

I can't help but think the Niji event would have been fine and well put together for a small but enthusiastic Vtuber company that is still finding it's feet. The problem is that Niji is well established, fairly large, and really should be pushing the benchmark with Hololive instead of struggling to keep up.

@AO968

17 күн бұрын

Nijisanji blew up too fast, especially with the Luxiem wave. With them, Tazumi found the golden goose and he's now milking it for every golden egg it still has before it dies.

Niji gonna Niji, what a joke.

This is the karma i want for nijisanji, not the harassment on Twitter

110 USD FOR A NORMAL SEAT 💀 Btw, they wrote Milllie's name accurate. She just took another L with her so it kinda fits the lore.

The contrast between this and their Anime Impulse reception earlier this year is tragic. Such a massive fall from grace.

Tbh I have two friends who are fans and I just have to play along with them because it is making them happy. But even they are disappointed with the company, they don’t put any money into niji thank god and they were sad to see everything go down. I’ve tried multiple times to say just ignore the shit going on and watch who they want and that I will look at the stuff going on. They were really upset and them being upset made me upset like idk what to do now…

@signumxmagnum

17 күн бұрын

Heart break will heal with times, just keep along with them, and maybe they would find new oshi's later, hopefully from a better agency.

@Loomine.

17 күн бұрын

@@signumxmagnum Only one of them has an Oshi in the agency I think it’s Petra I could be wrong tho the other ones oshi is U-San but if you know your know…

Give the people what they want. First rule of business. You take care of your customers and they will take care of you.

@BeyondDaX

17 күн бұрын

Yeah. Too bad that is a rare practice lawl

Their audience are like their heart... Its empty

This is just really sad. I pity the remaining loyal nijisanji fans. The niji management is just straight up extorting both their talents and their fans so that they can afford buying yachts.

Genuinely feel bad for the livers that have had to push through this last few months that werent involved at all. A bunch of these talents will have been basically forced into doing this and hold the role of face of the event while the bs team in charge of actually setting up and running the event in the background did a god-awful job of it. Mis-spelling Millie's name on the exact same slide as the correct spelling, the cursor, the shoddy venue setup, the fucking PRICE???? awful.. Pleading to all of the livers to refuse contract renewals at all costs.

The comparison between the two events can actually go beyond just the production value, but really the sheer difference in company cultures. The fact that Hololive can send talents from all three branches shows how well it's worked to have the branches consistently collab, interact, and form real friendships with each other. The fact that they set up a full 3D concert shows that they care more about supporting the talents and their creativity wherever they are in the world, whereas Niji is infamous for hoarding their 3D assets and equipment within Japan. And the fact that Holo put in this much effort for a sub-event of a much larger gaming event shows genuine humility and also pragmatic good sense in trying to introduce adjacent fandoms to vtubers. I don't really want to come off as a fanboy, but these are all values that don't just come with every company out there, let alone all together in a single one.

As a Filipino, I'm happy for what Millie, and Nijisanji is experiencing right now because I now they deserved this 😂

@tinymarch

17 күн бұрын

ew ayusin mo muna grammar mo

@harryborded5294

17 күн бұрын

Ah yes classic of hitting the shield but not the person 😂

2024 is good mannn, as a long time holo fan, i finally can freely mock at nijisanji without getting hated now damnn

3:41 OMG YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE CURSOR, on the left purple bow and then on the neck, bro... that's so shit...

That ticket price........

I live in singapore and i didnt even realise there's a niji event.... but i even know about the dreamhack appearance lol

Niji truly is thriving In EMBARRASSMENT

Im a Vtuber in Singapore and I didn't even know this was happening 😭 there was no advertising for it whatsoever

Its like the Willie Wonka Experience all over again

This is just heartbreaking. It must be so frustrating to be a talent of nijisanji rn.

Man, it must be a performer's worst nightmare to see empty hall on your show you were so excited for.

Why are we surprised these events failed? Considering how much work Selen now Doki put into these kinds of things without her they will flop

@AO968

17 күн бұрын

They really shot themselves in the foot by forcing their most profitable and popular female streamer out, especially when a lot of their sponsors then bailed and started sponsoring Doki, instead. Meanwhile, Doki is still taking Ws, and is soaring to greater heights than before. Plus, she is now in full control of her career and seems to be in much better spirits than before.

@demoman858

17 күн бұрын

​@@AO968 Nah Doki is just lucky with her "Sad" story. I still despise the pricing for these for a Hololive 3D wortgy concert prices however

@vienle4089

15 күн бұрын

​@@demoman858ah yes, a niji defender, a rare specimen nowadays

7:43 Lmao Millie literaly just taking another L

No, no, they didn't misspell Millie's name, she just took that L after the Niji Drama

I do watch Riku's tweet. The fact that he attend someone else's concert but not the livers really shows that Riku doesn't care about the livers, he care about his money and a bunch of yes man (and bootlicker as well) to take care of his yacht.

@kylewoodowens4488

17 күн бұрын

Whose concert did he attend?

@alifdanial8007

17 күн бұрын

@@kylewoodowens4488 idk, he didn't give any description about it, but you can check his tweet

@natnut4491

15 күн бұрын

@@alifdanial8007 its ChroNoiR concert..

@rad2400

15 күн бұрын

@@alifdanial8007 "attend someone else's concert but not the livers" I just checked his tweets, it's literally ROF-MAO and chronoir...? Riku do be getting Ls but god damn y'all got to be doing some simple reading 🥱

@alifdanial8007

15 күн бұрын

@@rad2400 but still, why is he not giving any description or explanation at all if he attended the concert?

Another day, another niji drama

yeah...i'm feeling this could be their last straw to be in the company.