In Pubs: damn it miracle we gonna lose In Tournament: Relax guys it's nigma galaxy

Nigma made secret look like the best team in the world

@rac8153

Ай бұрын

Crystallis outclassed Miracle. Sumail played like a tier 3 mid

@MsAAAAAA222

Ай бұрын

Ur mom made ur dad seem like the best cox blower

@kiro253

Ай бұрын

​​@@MsAAAAAA222wtf hahaha😂😂😂😂

@TieDyeSky

Ай бұрын

ahahahah oh my

@stolengrilfriendclub8724

Ай бұрын

Mimi

You don't need a spoiler block, you already know who lost.

Ah Fu MVP in this series, all the initiate move and catch he did... Holy clutch

when your void is lv27 while enemy lifestealer is lv20 and you can still fkn lose the game, that's when you know ur playing for a bad team

Compare kuroky’s cm and puppey’s enchant contribution in game 1, and see you what the issue is.

its hard to see Miracle and Sumail fall like this man. Nigma support is just SHIT compare to the secret.

Kuro no hard feelings. Please retire.

10:27 miracle not aware of walrus kick and hex on the enemy? why is he in front instead of fbz centaur?

@frozenkuku

Ай бұрын

Not only that, the last fight without bb he should let centaur initiate. But he went first, which was fine if he BKBed in the chronos. Instead he didn't learn his lesson from pures luna game yesterday at roshan not raging / sumail not bkbing. Gets hexed and wastes 3 seconds in chronos. Like you commit, just go dude. Keep trying to clutch these bkbs or items but it's costing them games.

@KaitoKuroba11

Ай бұрын

We can blame Kuro for not pressing Miracle's BKB

@freddiethapriiKma

Ай бұрын

@@KaitoKuroba11

Miracle throws are legendary...that void at the front line so tusk can kick you is a noob mover, even for a 2k mmr like me.

@adit851

Ай бұрын

Dont forget his legendary passive bkb.

@nnk9305

Ай бұрын

@@adit851even tho he has refresher smh

It’s mind blowing that miracle and Sumail are a div 2 team

Nigma making secret look good.

Nigma really need to open their eyes to realize how bad kuroky play, just change kuro and their pos 4 its gonna be good for sure

@yoyoniggsniggs6487

Ай бұрын

I think they realized. I understand being good in pub doesnt translate to pro matches, but i dont think even debuting player would show this much disparity between pub and pro performance like miracle and sumail do in this match, they dont look like they care anymore, throwing even. Its like theyre passively protesting kuro's performance. Just my shallow assumption.

@himking0

Ай бұрын

If there's someone who actually needs to open their eyes, it's Miracle fans 😂

@tonybonny745

Ай бұрын

Kick miragarbage, problem solve. They need a better carry that not throwing everygame after getting highest networth kekw

Why dun kuroky just be a nigma manager…its so sad to see miracle and sumail keep losing..

@kormankongther8609

Ай бұрын

Miracle need GH!!!

Puppey Ench in game 1 is such a masterpiece dang. Honestly if kky ain’t feeding that much and miracle got a better pos i still believe Nigma could survive in low T2

Bruh, watching kuro player perspective is funny 😂😂 game 2 batrider support running around didnt get any advantage or helping the team, even guardian level plays better support lol

Bro didn't even bother putting spoiler block

Tusk was on fire his plays man so good

sumail, matthew, fbz doing good

@hapkun4143

Ай бұрын

Nope

My ninja kuro back at it again with his shenanigans

People who say NGX must disband, they should retire, just know that KKY,Sumail and Miracle have nothing to prove. They have performed at the highest level, won the biggest trophies. They still love competing in the pro scene and let them have fun, its not like they are taking the chance of another young team.

@nerocetie69

Ай бұрын

COPIUM

@timocruz3464

Ай бұрын

not saying NGX should disband. Again KKY is the owner he should know better that he is destroying the team and career of sumail and miracle who can still play at the highest level. Look at notail, even though they still qualified at the last TI tournament he still retired cause he knew topson, sumail and the other team can still play better hence he doesn't want to destroy the career. He even told sumail to find a better team since he will be rebuilding og with young and new players

@timocruz3464

Ай бұрын

its obvious KKY is just selfish as seen in ti9

1st game is obvious - Secret had better early draft and snowballed it. If it went really late, Nigma would've won. 2nd game bad draft - Pango is not Sumail's best hero, idk why you would pick him. Also start of game when Miracle died 3-4 times, there were 0 wards, leading to safelane. I mean if your carry dies 2 times, just ward it, help him see the enemy when you leave him alone on lane. The squad is good, the only problem is Kuroky, they need a modern Pos 5, who can be more active.

@Clauds43

Ай бұрын

Yes keyboard coach

@rac8153

Ай бұрын

Stop with the draft Rtz herald excuse, Sumail played like shit regardless of the draft. Same for Miracle. You swap both draft and Secret would still win easily based on players performance

@hoohsowner697

Ай бұрын

I agree with u, thats the most basic support thing to do and yet kuro fails to do it. Not a miracle fan but if you get lockdown by 3 or 4 enemy at the same time, miracle totally had no chance, regardless even if its yatoro or any pro carry player. Its all about teamwork 😊

I’ve watched this match 3 times now just because I never get to watch secret win anymore. Thank you nigma

This 2 team used to be feared.

@Nishaisthebestplayer

Ай бұрын

Only Secret though... They are iterally the best team in 2020 and top 4 teams since 2018-2022 and completely irrelevant in 2023 lol... Nigma is not even close since the organization formed, no high achievement.

@tripleSSupremacy

Ай бұрын

​​@@NishaisthebestplayerSecret's prime is before and after Ti5. Original roster (Puppey, Kuro, Zai, s4 and Rtz) is epic but they were miserably eliminated at Ti5. Post-Ti5 where Valve introduced major tournaments, Secret is absolutely dominating with 'Puppey, w33, EE, Misery and Pieliedie' until original OG (Miracle, Notail, Fly, Crit and Moonmeander) arrives. Secret slowly recovers in Ti10 where they were eliminated by TS. Their roster at that time is epic too (Puppey, Yapzor, Nisha, Zai and Matu). TS is too good at Ti10. It's sad to see Secret drastically going downfall in Ti12 not even qualified.

@tripleSSupremacy

Ай бұрын

​​@@NishaisthebestplayerTi7 is Liquid's best form with Miracle, MC, GH and Matu prime and Kuro wasn't too noob. They're still considered to be good at Ti9 where they defeated original PSG.LGD (with Ame and Fy).

ah fu played both games like a legend. Incredible.

fact: nigma have many fans bcos of sumail and miracle.

here I am again, hoping that being eliminated would finally make Kuro retire

@andijuanda3889

Ай бұрын

It's been 5 years of kuro doing bad draft, we all need him to retire, kuro keeps hold them down.

@AdityaKundety

Ай бұрын

Maybe he should retire just to prove to you imbeciles that miracle and sumail are not the powerhouses they used to be. They are both at best, mediocre on a good day. Deal with it. They have succeeded in their careers. Let them do what they want. The only players that play with heart in this team are Matthew and fbz.

fbz is the only offlane that plays behind let carry and mid go front line XD

Lol, now they make secret looks like a strong team

@Bullshlaha

Ай бұрын

I remember the times when Kyro was considered the best captain in the world. And now, he ruined two teams multiple times.

Man nigma has lost probably the last 10 tournaments

@Angina272

Ай бұрын

what tournaments ? they never even qualified ...

puppey's ench is great on 1st game, 5 pos making 12 kills and solo kill 1-2 positions in opponent team

as a person who has been a fan of this team from 2017 , its a torture for me to see miracle like this , demotivated , not the player used to be , pleeeeeeaaaaseeee kuro just become a coach or manager or smth and i think matthew is a better pos 5 rather than 4

is it possible to get that void skin anymore? or was it just in a battle pass?

@Yagasith

Ай бұрын

that is arcana exclusive battlepass it takes long to valve gonna release again in the future like wk arcana and invoker persona

@blurry9744

Ай бұрын

@@Yagasith guess ill have to wait then, darnit ^^

kuro death less than 10 is achievement

@ramiadarbeh2972

Ай бұрын

he is trash and bzm too

@carlobunagan6681

Ай бұрын

​@@ramiadarbeh2972what is the connection of bzm?

@Rafi14022

Ай бұрын

@@carlobunagan6681 he just hates bZM for some reason, losing bet maybe?

@nnk9305

Ай бұрын

Also Miracle too,… Bottom 5 in both Games,…How is a Core Position 1 bottom 5 on Networth throughout the entire Game?

@shubitoxX

Ай бұрын

@@nnk9305 maybe you should watch the game again

Only Gh can keep up with miracle's gameplay. He is the only one who can save miracle.

at this rate topson was right, everyone who join in this team, their career will be ruined 😂

@io-rj6sk

Ай бұрын

wen did he say that?

@nnk9305

Ай бұрын

@@io-rj6skDuring Stream, one donator mention if he’s gonna join Nigma for Topson-Miracle duo,…Topson laughs and said he doesn’t want to ruin his career in Pro-Scene

@io-rj6sk

Ай бұрын

@@nnk9305 o wow even 2 years ago he said that

nigma so bad that they made secret look like a good Tier 1 team.

Ah fu so good la

time for nigma to actually bring in "real changes" to the team...

God I love the comment section hating on miralul and luloky

that bullying of kuroky cm

Nigma and VP made Secret look like a Tier 1 team.

It's been a while since I saw these teams names.

SF, storm, Qop, lesrac, should be picked for sumail, primal's ultimate is counter for sumail today

Yep,this is the streamer UA

at this rate, anyone can form a team and still beat Nigma

Is this Ah Fu from 2017 lfy forever young?

Ah fu played out of his mind in this series

I am a herald Can anyone explain what is the motive of this move from the FV? 1:20

@aa-fb8kq

Ай бұрын

i think he wanted to time walk into the snowball so he doesn't get stunned but he miss timed it

@feyy-7991

Ай бұрын

@@aa-fb8kq can't he just time walk the opposite way? It looks like he'll be far enough to not get stun though and even if he dodged the stun he would still killed by puppy

@sonyapanda666

Ай бұрын

Dodge snowball, but. Even pro player cant predict what miracle do next. But the problem is kuro, always made miracle tryso hard. Miracle need new team

@Wave33221

Ай бұрын

​@@feyy-7991 He thought it was gyro rocket. xd

@nhatanhnguyendang926

Ай бұрын

It wont stop the snowball anyway, not like bara charge or rocket

I like how in game 2 after DK & SD showed up they were already done with Kuroky Mirana. Probably got a mental breakdown, ahahaha.

Even GH and MC reached their limit staying for how many years with Kuro. I dunno know Miracle cant leave this shit support/Captain.

@user_ghdq3

Ай бұрын

Kuroky is probably keeping him via some Sharia law contract

23 should feel so bad watching how every team beat nigma so easy

Kuroky same like 4k MMR player

Tier 7 vs Tier 9

I literally had to replay this game to see if miracle chronod at all

Nigma is back

nice throw by miracle in first game

wow they still alive

This 2 teams playing with washing machine

I really wonder how Kuroky continues to play? Does he not get embarrassed by the continuing barrage of losses? How and why do Sumail and Miracle continue to play with him? Just loads of money? Are they really not bothered by how they are ruining their legacies?

@clarencechan8503

Ай бұрын

Go watch true sight TI8, kuroky mentioned he want to win 3 TIs lol

@unaits.9021

Ай бұрын

bruh my reply is tldr but typing out of frustration - I've always commented similar concerns ever since it was obvious that Nigma's never going to be tier 1 again unless they make the right changes/decision. I guess there is no direct answer to it. I honestly think it's purely money, sponsorships, comfort etc - Kuro may no longer be a good captain & player but he did secure the team (more like the organization) good deals with Etihad, Abu Dhabi etc. The Middle East is trying to make their e-sport scene big(ger) and they got Ex-Liquid/Nigma to boost for them. Individually, I'm sure all players are doing well, even in other e-sport games Nigma might be doing well (correct me if im wrong) but ig the focus/commitment/hard work you need to excel in dota pro scene as a team, Kuro needs to let go so someone who can prioritize/lead Nigma can do better and MAY BE even at least qualify for TI in the next whatever years of Sumail Miracle etc are left. Plus, most of Nigma players are/were Arab, Muslim(s), brown etc, settled in UAE - definitely in their comfort zone compared to being based in EU or NA etc

@louuu3201

Ай бұрын

miracle not good anymore, remember when MC was being told kuro is holding him back? he played for other teams got some good games then proceed to choke the rest, miracle will still play like this with different teams and team mates 😂😂

How the fuck miralul the legend lose to crystalul? That was unexpected tbh 😂

2024 kuro still say “nt guys” 😂

Primal Beast catching Pango in his rolling thunder at 20:21 and dribbling the hell out of him is just too funny!

who is wonning the games guys?? i dont mind spoiler because im travelling and my internet is not good

@saitamasensei919

Ай бұрын

Secret 2-0

GG

1:09 Miracle blocked Matthew 😂👍🏻

Nigma speedrunning for 5 years of failure 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

Kuro must starting to playing & training in pub again

I dunno but whenever nigma games i always go first to the comments

With kuro drafting nigma..its always gg..

20:20 Slam Dunk 😂😂

Ah fu proves that this is the era of supports. He is the MVP, just like 9class couple days before. Absolutely owning. Miracle, as always, is too fixated on cores like the game he got top NW on AM. Instead of killing pos 3,4,5 first as quick as possible and gang on the rest, he keeps going for cores unsuccessfully and then proceed to leave his teammates wiped out instead.

Sad. Kuro should retire 3years ago and live as a dota legend. Now many people doubt about him, and if he retire, he retire as an ordinary dota2 player. He should know when he should quit this game. Just like casey stoner, living as a motogp legend

@AdityaKundety

Ай бұрын

First of all this not just on kuro. The entire team is playing in the same level. Miracle is probably the worst P1 since 2020. Apparently crystalis bad? Where are those haters? Second, life is more than just winning. Dota has been these players’ entire life. Not easy to just quit and figure out what to do for the next 60 years of their lives. He maybe mediocre now, but legend status never goes away. These are the guys that broke their backs to literally create an entire genre entertainment, without any promise or pay of anything. They did all of it out of pure love for the game, and you simply ask to leave it? Don’t disrespect them with such a vile take.

@wenzstyle

Ай бұрын

@@AdityaKundety i didnt ask him to leave man. It is his choice, not mine. I just give my opinion, people should know when he should leave. Many people or sport player leave at 20 or 30 something. Maybe he could coach or something else if he still into the game. Just know the limit not only passion. As you can see, now many people blame him, and you want to say this is just bad day for them again and again? I'm kuroky fans too, but just be wise, he is not competent anymore (in my opinion)

@AdityaKundety

Ай бұрын

@@wenzstyle Many people blame him because none of these idiots know what a P5 role is for. They are the people who feel like the support role is a ward bitch and beyond that, a burden that they have to carry. They just want a scapegoat so their precious miracle is still “top tier”. They don’t want to face reality and realize the truth that all of these players have been performing bad. Coach? As if that role is immune from hate? You think these people won’t blame him when miracle team loses with kuro as coach? I just like to think kuro is doing what he finds joy in. Or he is trying to get through the bad phase. Yes, that can happen. If you believe kuro or other nigma players ever have a chance in their lifetime, then you don’t know the spirit of the game.

@wenzstyle

Ай бұрын

@@AdityaKundety i dont say that coach immune from hate speech man. Coach means he got many experience as dota player so he could give advice and sharing tips or trick that he know to the next ngx successor. He still can give his soul to the team. Coach not a maid, they also part of the team. But once again, i just give my opinion. My opinion and ur opinion can be different. I respect yours bro.

Kuroky still not retiring?

MVP for the series is ah fu.

Kuroky needs to retire. Reall...

Ah Fu is one of the best pos 4 in Dota

Usually when you see a Void in lategame with 28k networth, when enemy carry has only 22k, completely smashing the game... but of course not Nigma, somehow they manage to still be completely useless

@joeyvast

Ай бұрын

That Tusk Kick broke the game open.

Sumail has very good positioning. He deserves a better team.

@AdityaKundety

Ай бұрын

And if he did he would have had better teams to join. They are simply not as good anymore. The game is completely different from what it was back then, and the best players then are at most mediocre now.

Supports are the problem of Nigma.. no rotation..

4:00 Kuroky CM ult 😂😂

If Secret is a T2 team. Ooooh boy Nigma. 😂

I was nigma fan and I hoped all the time so that they could comeback but I'm sorry for myself and my time... When you don't learn from your loses, you are a loser No stun, no team fight ability, no utility ability, no farm and it means no win

Guys... He Baaaackkk! Miracleeee is baaaackkkk!

Crystallis is such a weird player,, weird positioning, weird teamfight, xD

the battle of tier 3

Miracle- need gh..kuro can't protect miracle- Let gh- replace kuro..matthew n gh can swap pos 4 and 5 anytime..

What happened to sumail in the first game ? He was dying before every tf

@RulliR

Ай бұрын

secret draft just too good against Lina there and puppey doing heavy lifting there as pos 5 early to late game with impetus

Feels like Nigma have no desire to play, especially Game 2

Every nigma game i see kuroky will feed even if they were winning😂

Puppey outplaying a carry half his age

ahfu play so welll

Let kuroky become the coach and let GH in the team already 🙃

@raventrust1596

Ай бұрын

agreed GH >>>>> Kuro

Bro i feel bad for Miracle.. he tried so hard at 1st game.

miracle look like tier 3 carry getting caught 5 time when use morph

@carlobunagan6681

Ай бұрын

He didn't know how to use that hero, thats the reality,

@nnk9305

Ай бұрын

@@carlobunagan6681He knows every Heroes, but unfortunately he never Mastered a single Hero,…That’s why he’s still trash after TI9

Imagine always blaming kuroky... this new team secret is cooking 🔥🔥🔥

If I am Miracle and Sumail, I would distance myself to Kuro.

@MrPedroveio

Ай бұрын

The correct is: “if i were…”

Miracle got his farm in game 1 and threw the game with the worst chronos. You can't waste 2 chronos being so far from your team. You have a farmed Lina, wait when she's near and then chrono. Also, the death when Tusk kicked him back, that's a 2k play. You can blame Kuro all you want, but Miracle played extremely bad both games.

@TheWorldSoCruel

Ай бұрын

Nah you ain't watching. Sumail never has a chance to right click with 4 jump heroes against him. Wrong item optimization.

Top tier ? Teams

Pos 5 diff