NIGMA vs QUEST - GRAND FINAL - MENA QUALIFIER - DREAMLEAGUE SEASON 23 DOTA 2
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NIGMA Galaxy vs PSG.QUEST - MENA FINAL - DREAMLEAGUE S23 DOTA 2
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you guys complaining about bad draft at game 5, i was surprised nigma could have a game 5 to begin with.
@zemel2050
2 ай бұрын
Yeah lol people bet nigma will lose 3-0 lost money
@muhammadmuneeb6445
2 ай бұрын
Gives us the glimpse of Quest's performance in next tournament 😂. It will be similar to ti12. The team is shit since Ammar left
@jacobferrer5294
2 ай бұрын
lmao right
@YoungGokuu007
2 ай бұрын
To be fair that last draft has zero lockdown, the other team has to stand there for nigma to fight. Aside from brew spit they actually don’t do anything
Kuro logic: If micracle wins with any hero = first pick that hero for next time
No stun on game 5. What a nice free game for storm and void
dukalis cm is insane, those freezing fields were absolutely backbreaking
SUmail and Miracle in game 4 is really Insane
Game 5 draft was horrible from Nigma. Couldn't string a gank together with enchant and tb supports, and there's no chance late game vs void. Mid kotl is only good when tempo is fast. Nigma's only tiny window was the first aegis.
@YoungGokuu007
2 ай бұрын
Agree! But was also impressive they forced game 5
A lineup without stuns against Storm and Void? Man kuro really needs to retire. Last TI they got eliminated with his razor support pick
@CorazonLaw1
2 ай бұрын
@@user-ko3dt3is2e wtf does "do not respect fun" mean? U keep saying that in the comments.
@nnk9305
2 ай бұрын
Last TI? They never went to TI Maybe you mean Regional Qualifiers
last game hero pick on nigma really questionable. enchantress and TB as 4 and 5 and KOTL as mid no stuner no silence no hex or disable. that storm spirit rolling like he own the map
Kuroky draft is the problem..
After the game 4, seems like kuro is on a high horse. 1st pick draft TB, and after quest pick Void, he then last pick AM? Instead of picking support to cancel void like venge who can swap, or WR who can push with gale TB support is joke, not all team can play it really well, especially when u against Storm, who can jump TB support easily
Kuroky is already a millionaire with his team betting on the enemy during game. Fvcking satan
@gravity00x
2 ай бұрын
that made me laugh so hard. thank you
@kiro253
Ай бұрын
@@gravity00x😂😂😂😂😂 this is actually genius..WTF!?!
After that comeback game in game 4, i thought that maybe finally we'll be able to see Nigma back in main stage... only to break our hearts (as it usually is) on game 5 😢
The draft of game 5 hurts my eyes, after a wonderful game 4
Nice 0 stun line up in game 5. And last picking AM into void.. what were they thinking lmao
@XpldedSplit
2 ай бұрын
into void + titan. And 0 control into mirana storm void. game was lost on draft
@Tdrnker
2 ай бұрын
ask kuroko
@YoungGokuu007
2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure how you can stop void without a stun and storm too
@brbsama
2 ай бұрын
so they last pick am,fck quest was like kill am and win
Picking AM, he gets a great start, top farm in game, gets picked off late game and games over. Standard AM game.
@PrinceInShadow
2 ай бұрын
am cant do shit with void and storm having no one to stop them...storm basically have free game even with AM with no disabler
Can we just appreciate that Nigma getting stronger, and not losing 3:0. I know it is hard to watch how they lose, but if they can get stronger as a team. It will be good.
tier 1 tower being alive at min 70 is legit insane vs beast and lesh
Geez that game 4 was crazy
Im in shock. Last Draft was disaster.
What in the world was that last Draft. I know April Fools is around the corner but come on
Sumail playing his heart out. Well played king. It's better not to go big stages with this weird team and draft.
@mayuravivekananda530
2 ай бұрын
Yea the dude needs to go elsewhere. He has definitely picked his gameplay back up recently but needs a team that works well with his aggressive playstyle rather than this 4 protect 1 Kuro loves.
@luthfiunlimited
2 ай бұрын
sumail played shit in game 5
@pucuk1668
2 ай бұрын
@@luthfiunlimited with a shit draft like that everybody will look like shit..
@Jowy_
2 ай бұрын
@@luthfiunlimitedlol what can ktol do with that shit draft? No disable against void and storm. 😂
1 word. KUROKY
@gr1msasor14
2 ай бұрын
yeah wtf was that game 5 draft
@sjdlkfajslkdjflsj
2 ай бұрын
He saw other teams doing it. He wanted to try it and make ppl think he's keeping up with the times lol
I wonder what if Sumail and Miracle can switch role/lane in game depends on the enemy they would face..Such a good strategy for NGX tho
No stun draft on game 5? How do you catch fv on that draft.
Nigma has talent but the common denominator why they lose is KURO. Just kick the god damn old guy. Please just let him retire ffs 😂
@RonaldJarjury
2 ай бұрын
he's the CEO of nigma, that's why ..
@momogi618
Ай бұрын
I'm giving up saying that for the past 3 years, he won't retire because it's his team. if everyone still in a team with him it's everyone fault now.
Kuro drunk draft
Kky can’t draft hero to win in game 5 . He’s old man dota2
feels like TI grand finals nigma did pretty well. definitely proven they still got it. ggwp to quest
they were so close... kuro never learn...
I was thinking there's no way you pick AM into void right?? AM lane went better than expected tho.
Game 5, Why draft like this in crucial match??? Worst draft in history of dota. Kuroky god
@nnk9305
2 ай бұрын
Bro,…Your boy Miracle bought Abysal Blade instead of saving Buyback which cost the Game
@Tallkingtomyself
2 ай бұрын
@@nnk9305lol that game was lost from the beggining, they have no way to kill the storm
@Lala26845
2 ай бұрын
@@nnk9305 idc about miracle, i just say this draft worst. Im not nigma fans lol
@Lala26845
2 ай бұрын
@@Tallkingtomyself coz trash draft. Kotl against strom, and 0 stuner lol how they kill strom lol
@nnk9305
2 ай бұрын
@@Tallkingtomyself AM literally is the anti for Storm from the beginning and up till the end lmao
Good luck next match on Elite League!👍
39:28 did tb have sundar? I thought he ult brew but he actually didnt, idk if im just high but Can someone explain pls
@PaxiKaksi
2 ай бұрын
He missclicked and sundered an enemy :D
this proves that void is not the strongest carry but is defently the game changer!
@boujiewink6999
2 ай бұрын
hes not the strongest, he just has chrono which you cant do anything about. no bkb, no anything. chrono is just too op
Nice to see miracle popping off again. Don't get the am pick pick though.
Kuro always needs to go all in so much in the draft, that he tries to out-draft other teams because he doesn't have the skills required to win a fair draft. Often, he outdrafts himself. In the game, Kuro just runs around, dies or gets outplayed here and there. Somehow got carried in the past because his teammates were one level ahead of others, not others are kinda all equal if not better. Not sure why he doesn't see that it doesn't work like this anymore.
@YoungGokuu007
2 ай бұрын
I think most of the drafts are fine, his hero pool for some reason is just very limited and they are forced into playing these bad lineups. Even in a pub game that draft would be considered atrocious let alone a grand finals of a tournament
@scalarian1976
2 ай бұрын
@@YoungGokuu007 zip up when you're done
1st pick tb, you can adjust it to carry and then why pick brew when mars or centaur is open, pick kotl to sumail is awful with no stun heroes, you can pick lina or void spirit. I dont know why kuro likes to pick no stun heroes.
Kuroky don't wana retire because of Ego. Why? Because there is a veteran who played as long as him, both also a captain and is still doing well, aka Puppey. So obviously Kuroky will never admit he is the reason they're doing badly hence he will always be playing.
@c4un544n5
2 ай бұрын
Puppey isn't performing as well as the other pos 5, but kuroky pos 5 decision making is just beyond comprehension. When he was playing vengeful in other game, the decision making in using his swap was puzzling to say the least.
@gravity00x
2 ай бұрын
@@c4un544n5at least puppey still is a good competitive player that is above archon level. wheres kurkokie is a bad captain and a very bad dota player.
Miracle throw that last game
who should replace kuro for the captain role?
@kiro253
Ай бұрын
Ur mom
Time to blame Kuro, bois? 😅
@nemanjatrifunovic1111
2 ай бұрын
sure he all normal people blame him how litle know dota 2,you dont know if you text this ,watch draft kuro pls and dont talk wrost draft in history off dota 2 game 5................
@witchhunted4297
2 ай бұрын
@@nemanjatrifunovic1111u realized if the draft was too bad, at some point they were gonna tell him right? Unless all of them were brainlet 😂
@zmxj_shyguy
2 ай бұрын
Lmao if top tier teams play Nigma draft , they will surely play better than them. Stop coping lol 😂
@lalajun5902
2 ай бұрын
I mean, Kuro is the only who rarely play pubs. At least puppey plays pubs from time to time. Most of time kuro plays shit or badly as supports
@jakaprakasa3377
2 ай бұрын
@@zmxj_shyguyyeah? Can you enlighten us how to caught off guard Faceless Void or Strom spirit Player using Terror Blade, Kotl & Enchan? Almost 5 heroes no one have stun at all, you dumbass fking archon. I bet 100$ if any pro team scene can excetue it and win the game. Even AME AM have Stun heroes in his team if im not wrong thats why he can burst Void and Kite him
What’s with the game 5 pick
@thisthrowyear
2 ай бұрын
Showoff glory sign of koroky legacy
Kuro with a no stun draft meta in game 5 what a throw
dear kuro, you don't have to pick weird hero to looks smart
Bro lion in game5 would be a game changer for nigma. Kurokoy godz strikes again 😂
ITS OFICIAL, KUROKY IS BAD! MIRACLE CAN PLAY IN TIER 1 TEAM, IDK WHAT THIS FELA DO BEHIND KUROKY, KUROKY IS SOO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@witchhunted4297
2 ай бұрын
Then maybe it's a good time for Miracle to grow some backbones and leave the team? But since he's a puss, so that might be hard 😅.
the best draft ive seen in pro dota
Great Suma1L Lehrac in Game 4 carried the game until Medusa went online. But then Game 5 wtf was that. P.S. Valve should really consider something about buildings after min 60. They are like paper compared to lvl 30 heroes
@Quyzbuk86
2 ай бұрын
thatsthepoint.jpg
@Nightknight1992
2 ай бұрын
dunno, he fed a bit too much, unless he banked on them never being abled to take highground with cooldowns plus him buybacking
They play well❤
Ask kuro to draft like that but Nigma still take 2 games in bag. Can you imagine how good that 4 guys are. Lead by a dwarf captain 😂😂😂
16:14 wtf??? no tree hit the spear?
they should switch miracle-sumail, to confuse enemies. Like miracle-matumbaman before. I think miracle is a better midplayer than a carry. grats to quest
@Raiskyl_1453
2 ай бұрын
They did try that before. Guess it doesn’t working out back then. Also, Nigma mid game moments and pace are highly rely upon their 3/4 ganks, which’s also not quite working out too well too
kuroky trying to train his players by handicap with bad draft
As someone who would love to see Miracle- and sumaiL on the big stage . it's hard to watch them play so bad. We know Kuro won't carry anyone, but i also think thiss defeat is because of bad plays from everyone and generally a bad team chemistry.
bad drafter
@roddyrodrigo420
2 ай бұрын
Man.. wtf is TB, Kotl, AM, brew….
@anjaymabar9725
2 ай бұрын
Lets pick am against void and dk what a great idea xd
@dedisetiawan8254
2 ай бұрын
@@anjaymabar9725trus pake carry apa kalo ada storm?
@muhamadrizky3975
2 ай бұрын
@@dedisetiawan8254 gua ga tau, tapi yg pasti am juga bukan pilihan yg bagus
@dedisetiawan8254
2 ай бұрын
@@muhamadrizky3975 am udah paling bagus, muerta gk bisa counter storm
when you are dragging precious years off your cores to prove you can still play
Kuroky didnt bad draft the game 5. Supports are bad as well.
Game 5 is bonus game for Quest. Kuro Omegalul
That game 4 comeback was unreal 😮 sad they messed up game 5
@YoungGokuu007
2 ай бұрын
I wish they had a draft that could at least be competitive in game 5, they would have to end early to have a shot at winning that game
just imagine you are Miracle and your team is only top-3 in NEW region with 5-6 teams... it's a shame.
game 5 nigma draft is so outdated. kotl mid lane? tb support?
that keeper of the trash pick vs storm void nice draft kuroko
game 5 is the worst draft for nigma in any pro game I have ever seem
Kuroky is so fucking bad at drafting that two of the best dota players cannot carry him through a region with only one other competitive team
@rhythm9913
2 ай бұрын
“Two of the best dota players” 😂😂😂😂😂 thanks for the laugh mate
@witchhunted4297
2 ай бұрын
@@rhythm9913ikr 😂😂
I just love the tears of southeast Asian miracle fans
@Mayrik92
2 ай бұрын
hehe
@kiro253
Ай бұрын
Noooo why would u do us southeast asian miracle fans like that😢😢😢
@momogi618
Ай бұрын
that's kinda gay bro
struggling to the grand final, but kuro’s drafting the reason they lose
If matthew save miracle early void no getting fat
No stun draft. Epic throw
I can already tell which team won by just reading the title and without even watching the whole game xD
Kuroky what were you thinking while picking last game bruhhhhh
NIGMA who will come "back" next?
give a team a bad player and their captain will fix them. give a team a bad captain and not even their best player will save them
@Mayrik92
2 ай бұрын
excuses for someone that feeds a lot
@kiro253
Ай бұрын
@@Mayrik92ikr?!? He fed ur mom alot of his C for sure
Nigma Tier 3 Confirmed !!!!!!! 🤧🤧🤧🤧
720p ??? lol
Keep moving forward Nigma 😊
Terrorblade Support?
@witchhunted4297
2 ай бұрын
This kid's either been hiding in the cave or busy working 9-5 or sum 😅
this result sparks joy
Nice draft on game 5 KEKL
there ia no synergy between AM and ezalor wtfff draft in game 5..
5th game draft is not so bad if they can end game at 30mins mark, but instead they went late game 😂 they do sumail kotl dirty
all that game 4 effort just to throw game 5
Miracle wr ❤
Kuro 2024 : Stun is so out of meta Kuro after game 5 : Should've went with TA Tide
The most stupid draft on game 5 and FINAL game... Kotl mid, pos4 tb and late game AM? Just disband nigma .. you just drowning these skilled players
What kind of draft is that in the 5th game? Lol!
Kuro in Game 5 (Draf Hero No Stuner 😂)
Tb carry wouldve been fine and draft a stun for 4
Sumail and miracle needs a new team
tb support is GG what are they doing there are a lot hero matthew can play
game 5 deciding match. Lets give sumail KOTL. KURO MVP
how is this guy a pro player 7:50 . His team killed the carry , he glimpse out the pos 3 .even if he arenas theres no dmg
@juan-tj1xf
2 ай бұрын
yea was a shit move by mars but the Kuro saved :)
Tb support
that game 4 was hype af, only for kuro to completely fuck up the draft for game 5, being a nigma fan sucks
this is a draft by who?
@modhkaartheryy9565
Ай бұрын
The Master CEO BALD KUROKY
what an amazing brainrot drafting in game 5 of BO5.
AM pick is good but Kuro forgot to ban FV
Its alright, its kinda good series so its okay
miracle must left kuroky
@user-hx1ob7sl8o
2 ай бұрын
words
5th match, quest every hero has stun or sleep Nigma zero stun
zero stuns vs void and storm spirit, hell they cant even cancel any tp or even e.t's stomp apart from am ult which would be a waste lulw kuroky's brain going back in evolution to an ape.