As Brett Weinstein analogised, if a penguin was found in the middle of Dallas, it would reasonable to suppose it had escaped from a nearby zoo or collection rather than it swimming from Antarctica.

@martinliehs2513

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that quote as well, but I think Bret used the example of a dancing bear escaping from a circus.

@Jana-vb3do

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinliehs2513 Here is more funding sources: www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/

@martinliehs2513

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jana-vb3do good article, thanks.

@Cyallaire

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jana-vb3do Thank you! It turns out that this Peter Daszaks was engaged in orchestrating the Lancet article "researchers" who insisted that the SARS-Cov2 virus was a naturally occurring virus, nothing to do with a lab. He had huge self-interest in trying to lock that narrative into place as he was directly involved with the lab in Wuhan in the neighborhood where the disease first was reported. But there was a flub in calling it the "Wuhan Flu" as other researchers said it was circulating in California in the Fall of 2019, prior to the first reports out of China. The "Blame China" crowd have a political incentive suppress that information.

@brynleytalbot778

3 жыл бұрын

Cynthia Allaire Just speculative but could other laboratories have been given the virus, or recipe for it, to collaborate on vaccine research. Was the vaccine research the cause of the release in multiple locations, accidentally through human trials, before the infection potential of the virus was fully comprehended. The reason for "cooking up" such viruses in Wuhan was to investigate whether vaccines could be created to combat them. Other countries wouldn't be permitted to create the viruses but I'm guessing that vaccine research was allowed requiring samples of the viruses. Yet another conspiracy theory to add to the multitude already in circulation.

The million dollar question is "why was it that a lab-leak hypothesis was considered "out of the question"?" in the first place. Who were those that jumped immediately to denounce such a hypothesis and why?

@ForeverYoungKickboxer

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@damianpos8832

3 жыл бұрын

Becouse it was true... Btw that would mean criminal persecution of everybody involved in gain of funcion reserh ...

@andthereisntone3454

3 жыл бұрын

...And they MUST be held accountable.

@TerriblePerfection

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for calling it a hypothesis. The distinction is important if for no other reason than it's so easy to attach the word conspiracy to "theory."

@hansmeiser32

3 жыл бұрын

They answered it at least partially in the interview: because of conflicts of interests and Trump supported this hypothesis

Freddie is an absolute top interviewer. Best I've ever listened to. Reminds me of Hugh Grant with morals.

@hellodavey1902

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@askmeanything8336

3 жыл бұрын

@@hellodavey1902 *You have no morals if you take the vaccine. People's DNA structure has been changed. Good luck getting into heaven.*

@bcafed

3 жыл бұрын

@@askmeanything8336 heaven depends on taking a vaccine or not? Christian heaven? Muslim? Some other concept? Please explain.

@karenaenlle8107

3 жыл бұрын

@@bcafed 😂🤪

@nancyrobertson9256

3 жыл бұрын

He's movie star handsome and brilliant.

Am I the only person who is getting sick of seeing the CDC link advising me to get latest COVID information from the government, across podcasts like this one? If I want a controlled propagandize message - I know how to find the CDC website.

@peterconway6584

3 жыл бұрын

I use uBlock Origin to censor such fake links and notices.

@FierceSleepingDog

3 жыл бұрын

I was just going to post the same. Our Tech Overlords want to have complete control over thought.....because they know best... obviously

@rickfucci4512

3 жыл бұрын

You don't like your propaganda served up EVERYWHERE you might experience the truth...

@spleenware

3 жыл бұрын

To me, this is a constant reminder that our Tech Overlords are watching, and they still believe they know better than the rest of us. It's patronising, and arrogant.

@michaelfrank5239

3 жыл бұрын

Just ignore it.

A lab leak was "out of the question". In legal terms, this means a cover-up.

@ghwk-phd2784

3 жыл бұрын

- scroll 3:10:00 - - https: //kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2uDysFqd8vKZZc.html -

@smontalban2917

3 жыл бұрын

that is why Dr. Faucis emails are so important as he was the one to rule out immediately a lab leak theory.

Freddie is a joy to listen to. He seems like he is from an older, better era. And btw, Covid was totally orchestrated from the beginning.

@elingrome5853

3 жыл бұрын

Hes like BBC journo from 15 years ago... long since been replaced by a low IQ droid

@gotatochigs314

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree about Freddie, but I don't see any evidence of covid having been orchestrated. If that were the case, I would at the very least expect the outbreak not to have been released on the doorstep of WIV. IMO an accident would look exactly like what we're seeing but an intentional release would not, unless WIV was framed or something, and that's going way too far into unfounded conjecture for me lol. But if anyone has better evidence one way or another, I'm all ears!

@arnesaknussemm2427

3 жыл бұрын

@@elingrome5853 15 years ago? We’ve just had a journalist exposed as a lying b@st@rd from an interview he did over 25 years ago on the BBC? The rot runs deep.

@philipofsparta1355

3 жыл бұрын

@@gotatochigs314 'an accident would look exactly like what we're seeing but an intentional release would not,' unless the intentional release was meant to look like an accident.

@L8nitedave

3 жыл бұрын

@@philipofsparta1355 I wonder just how far you can take your "that's what they want you to think" theory.

Another demonstration that "science" isn't about scientifically investigating the nature of reality. It's about in group loyalty, funding and politics.

@L8nitedave

3 жыл бұрын

Just a demonstration on how easy it is to make the general public think that.

@threetunes7810

3 жыл бұрын

Science _is_ about investigating the nature of reality. It just so happens that knowledge gained through science can lead to power, and power goes hand in hand with politics. It's hard to divorce science from politics even if most scientists are just quietly getting on with pursuing things about reality that fascinate them. As for funding. Meh, science is generally quite an expensive thing and it's hard to convince people to spend money on "we may discover something we didn't know before" without making it sound awesome in some way. Even space exploration needs to tap into the prospect that we may get something back from it all when convincing the penny holders to invest. For the scientist it's often about exploration, for the person who funds the scientist's work it's often about what can be done with what the scientist's find. Coming more close to home with respect to this video. Don't take the guy's word as gospel. It's a hypothesis. He's going "I've got these dots that I think are true, _if_ the dots are connected in this manner then this means...". It's a "this might be true", not a "this is true". It's important not to forget that.

@makara80

3 жыл бұрын

@@threetunes7810 If science is to be of any tangible worth at all to humanity it must be elevate itself to a level of professionalism and integrity impervious to corrupting political machinations and corporate intrigue. Therefore motivation, funding sources, statistical analysis and research methodology et al _are_ important contributory factors when evaluating the credibility of such labours, factors that should never be so casually dismissed. A pertinent example of course would be the W.H.O’s conduct during this pandemic and their financially beneficial ‘relationship’ with The People’s Republic of China. ;)

@threetunes7810

3 жыл бұрын

@@makara80 You're talking of an unattainable goal. I don't disagree with you that it would be good if that was the case but I know it can never be the case. At the end of the day knowledge is power and a path to wealth. There's no way to make that not be true and because it is true there's an element of politics that gets pulled in. I agree that science should always be scrutinised, that's the whole point to peer review but, again, at the end of the day it is what it is.

@threetunes7810

3 жыл бұрын

@@makara80 The W.H.O is a good example of an institute that heavily relies on scientific knowledge and makes extensive use of scientists but can't be divorced from politics. They are an international organisation whose area of expertise can lead to them needing to give economically or socially harmful advice and they sometimes have to deal with very powerful governments. It's all just people having meetings, talking, sharing knowledge and all to varying degrees of honesty and competence. It varies from person to person and nobody knows everything that's going on. There's no way to make the dynamic perfect. Real boats rock and shit happens. Sure, if someone gets found to have caused harm through dereliction of duty, being dishonest or just being too incompetent then they need to be addressed. However first it needs to be shown that this really is the case. When the blame game starts the reality can easily be that, despite all the mud flinging, nobody has actually done anything they shouldn't have. Not that I think that's true here for some of the things China is accused of wrt Covid but I am wary of people who seem too eager to find a person to blame

Thanks, Nicolas, for the top-quality research and excellent article. As always, great questioning Freddie.

Wow, an absolute bombshell!!! This interview has caused me to move from undecided to definite lab leak!

@joncrane7661

3 жыл бұрын

Someone's wants world domination....perfect way to control lots of people and usher in the great reset

@kanatsizkanatli

3 жыл бұрын

You've gone from a sensible position to an absurd position. You can't be certain of almost anything in life but to be certain of something like this proves that you have no understanding of science, probability of logic

@stevenverrall4527

3 жыл бұрын

@@kanatsizkanatli The natural origin theory seems so implausible that some type of human-caused event is the only reasonable conclusion. I am now very concerned about terrorists letting loose viruses engineered in US labs.

@adrianmeyer2157

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah at first I bought the WHO with their not made in a lab outcome. Not sure if you watch Triggernometry but this was an interview from July last year which made me think otherwise kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXidxaOblsaXdrQ.html

@stephenmurray2851

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenverrall4527 But they don't engineer them in us labs? America gave up these gain of function research year's ago.

You have to fully blame the MSM for never ever talking about this subject , they are a total disgrace .

What happened to Dr Li-Meng Yan who first came out saying that the virus was a lab-leak and even produced two papers to support her claim? P.S. Her papers were also censored by FB "fact-checkers" (as if they were competent enough to evaluate such a high(er) level scientific work)!

@yinoveryang4246

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. For some reason journalists haven’t picked up on her. Yet. As far as I know, she is still in New York, so the likelihood is it will happen sooner or later. I think what is going in is that a lot of people involved in what is effectively this “censorship” of information are tremendously ashamed of what they’ve done, or not prepared to accept their own narrowing of the mind.

@qrsx66

3 жыл бұрын

She's been censored by FB Twitter and other, and more sadly, the CCP detained her mom and family.

@angieatwork1053

3 жыл бұрын

She's on Twitter @Li-mengYan1

@alisonwilliams-bailey57

3 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly she spoke on London Real last year late Summer early Autumn. I watched her video so amazed it took so long for this to come into media channels. And then they check it (WHO and establishment) ignoring her even though she worked in Wuhane Lab (confused)

@matsv201

3 жыл бұрын

Fb factcheckers know everything. They know what testamente work.. they slso know what election there was cheating and not also... and much much more

These people should be thrown in a dirty prison for the rest of their lives. The media people that clearly covered up for them need to face justice too. What i wonder is why no government around the world has come out and said where this came from, because they CLEARLY must know.

@petaross316

3 жыл бұрын

Our Australian government has questioned where the virus came from and China has put trade restrictions on us ever since and also in the beginning did a nasty smear campaign against Australia

@hokeypokeypots

3 жыл бұрын

Governments around the world...especially from developed countries...are quiet about gain of function research because they're the ones who fund it. During the Obama administration, it was being funded by the US, but he placed a moratorium on this type of research. But Fauci, who was a proponent of it, found a way to get around the moratorium when trump became president. Rather than doing this research in their own countries, since regulations regarding dangerous pathogens are more strict and the general public is against it, it's easier...and cheaper...to outsource it. And if there is ever an escape, the country doing the research can be blamed. When the virus started to spread in the fall of 2019, trump knew where it came from and blamed the Chinese, but his administration funded it...and congress...which controls the purse strings of our government...approved the funding. So in essence, both political parties...along with scientists who do this research...have a strong incentive to keep quiet about their part in 'creating' this pandemic.

@joncrane7661

3 жыл бұрын

The great reset. Western society is under attack. The virus is a part of this. They are all being paid off or silenced. Probably woke culture canceling anyone out who isn't part of the tribe. It was so easy to hate trump.....that was designed as well.

@one4320

3 жыл бұрын

@@joncrane7661 didn't work on me. I quite like don, he's entertaining and oblivious to what a complete dunce he is. I'll be especially entertained to hear his pronouncements from behind bars. It'll be a hoot! 🥳

@marklynch7705

3 жыл бұрын

@@one4320 lol. So not following the progress of the forensic audits then. Maricopa county officials finally following the advice of their own lawyers to shut up. MI now going ahead and I believe a third Forensic audit in another state is on the cards. I'm going to enjoy this year. Very much.

Interviews don't get any better than this one. Well done! Typical excellent work by Freddy Sayers.

Great interview. You're putting most other journalists to shame Freddie.

@mrtopcat2

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree. In addition, I find it particularly regretful that KZread (let's just say) is apparently not too eagerly promoting Freddie's channel.

Thank you Freddie Sayers and Nicholas Wade. Keep safe and hopefully your work and words will spread far and wide - even more so than this virus. You have both clarified and summarised the points here very well, so that many non-scientists will be able to understand the issues at hand.

And the next question is......was it leaked through typical CPP negligence... or on purpose???

@armmuse1692

2 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

Now it makes a lot of sense. It seemed odd why America didn't want to press China more about this, they had a hand in it and China would expose that, so they both keep schtum. Makes a lot of sense now. It always seemed odd why the U.S would censor to help China cover up something so serious. Brilliant interview once more, putting most other interviewers to shame as always.

@ignominius3111

3 жыл бұрын

A conspiracy no doubt.

@zTheBigFishz

3 жыл бұрын

IF the lab leak theory is true, then the NIH and other public health organizations in the US are partially responsible for the entire pandemic. The stakes are really, really high.

@bobmorane4926

3 жыл бұрын

@@zTheBigFishz Not partially. They have some serious explaining to do about the findings of covid 19 samples in sewage of Spain and portugal back in march 2019. At the same time, the mysterious vapor pneumonia in september 2019 in USA needs to be explained in light of events at Fort Detrick.

@Rayblondie

3 жыл бұрын

Trump hardly covered it up and went out of his way to denounce them. The tenure of Trump and Boris unfortunately have been almost completely taken up by Covid.

@bobmorane4926

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rayblondie Would Trump denounce himself ? Would Trump go into details about how US army biolabs played with game of functions and then signed a contract to outsource the work to China ? That's the gist of it !!! The US is in the thick of it and would rather just make the whole thing go away.

This is the most informative of all the Covid lab leak discussions, I have ever heard on Internet

Good example why the ‘trust the science’ slogan was actually just propaganda... the rule should always ‘be trust but verify’

I know it wasn't the main push of the interview, but it would have been interesting to flesh out the influence of FaceBook (and Twitter, KZread, Google etc.) on the information that the public received on this subject. Censorship was and is rampant, and it seems that many governments and government agencies are perfectly willing to maintain that as the status quo. Maybe in another interview? (With Atlas or Heneghan, perhaps? They seem to have been censored enormously during this whole fiasco).

@tonicursio

3 жыл бұрын

Controlled conversation. Public- private partnership. Prob just the beginning

@DouglasGross6022

3 жыл бұрын

Scott Atlas and Carl Heneghan would be excellent guests.

@theresearcher253

3 жыл бұрын

One of the most worrying elements of this pandemic. Governments put pressure on the tech companies to eliminate 'fake news' on vaccines and masks etc. The inevitable consequence was that anything remotely critical of the 'orthodox' approach to the pandemic (which emerged almost overnight - no pre-pandemic planning included either lockdowns or masks) has been summarily deleted. In the US, there is now a very odd situation in that the CDC's advice on mask wearing and social distancing is being deliberately ignored by some politicians who, just five minutes ago, were ready to cancel and destroy anyone not 'following the science'.

@TerriblePerfection

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's really inseparable from the narrative.

@heterodox3487

3 жыл бұрын

David Martin interview on Planet Lockdown

Freddie: I must congratulate you on the careful, clear way in which you summarised NW's explanations and replies and checked with him that you had understood him clearly. I notice how you got it right every time. He did not need to correct you, to put you right, a single time. This dialogue really clarified so many questions for me. Your listeners/viewers must have found it very educative. I certainly did. Thank you so much. Unherd is setting new standards.

We should stick with 'hypothesis' over 'theory'

@SubtleAscension

3 жыл бұрын

Wanted to make the same distinction after hearing Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying stress the point.

@fromhereon014

3 жыл бұрын

@@SubtleAscension Haha, I think Heather would credit Bret on this

@brynleytalbot778

3 жыл бұрын

Hypotheses form and are researched until a consensus forms around a theory till it's challenged and the process begins anew. Well, that's the theory in the philosophy of science, as written by Thomas H Kuhn. Regrettably it's not functional in the politicised research world full of billionaire philanthropists funding results based science seeking to confirm pet theories. Science needs funds but not with strings attached meaning they become the puppets of those giving the funding. If politicians weren't so in awe of these billionaires influencing decision making we'd be able to have a serious discussion on the validity of the research they fund.

@debblouin

3 жыл бұрын

The interviewer and the Dr. have both used the term hypothesis rather than theory during this video.

@brynleytalbot778

3 жыл бұрын

C Warnes Thank you. Until a consensus forms establishing a hypothesis as more correct than other competing ones a theory isn't created. Even then the theory is open to challenges over its validity should new evidence emerge to change the perspective taken to form it. It constantly amazes me how ill informed Joe Public is about scientific research and the conclusions they leap to based on naivety over the processes.

This was a game changer article. One for decades.

Australia has expertise in bat viruses through the lyssavirus outbreak in humans two decades ago - the Chinese bat lady worked with the CSIRO over ten years ago - which explains why the Australian government was first to call for an independent investigation into the origins of the virus in May last year.

@goofygrandlouis6296

3 жыл бұрын

You can't bury the truth forever. Don't worry, someone is going to spill the beans at some point.

@Wilshare

3 жыл бұрын

IRONIC THAT IN OUR PART OF CANADA THE GOVERNMENT BEGS US TO BUILD BAT HOUSES,,,I SHAKE MY HEAD.

This show is so good for us all. Always useful information, and Freddie Sayers is the interviewer of the decade in my opinion.

Freddie, after watching you for over a year now, you still never cease to amaze me. You truly are one of a kind, simply brilliant. Thank god that you exist and keep shedding light on the truth. Thank you, infinitely.

@barrytee1689

3 жыл бұрын

Truth here kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zn6BtM-uqc68ZM4.html

A consistent excellence in journalism So, when Freddy is appointed Director General of the BBC it will become worthy of its license fee; if not,or until then it should be disbanded.

What's amazing is how long people's eyes have been closed

@wilma8326

3 жыл бұрын

Most eyes are still closed. This is not even half of the story. They might have to admit that the virus accidently escaped from the lab if that can help them to cover up the real story that it escaped on purpose. This whole pandemic scenario was already in place, plans for world vaccination included. An staged accident, I reckon

The arcticle wasn't that technical. It was very well done, and easy to understand if you have learned anything about covid, and the experiments that have been going on for years, both in the U.S. and other countries.

This is unethical research in my opinion, it should not be allowed, it goes beyond human ethics and it has the potential to be very dangerous

@rap3208

3 жыл бұрын

It is about China so no worries, sky is the limit. They can say anything they want even if it is devoid of evidences. Nevermind the investigations of the WHO team that debunks that theory, all they need to is a rumor of two Wuhan lab employees going to the hospital for an illness. No need to investigate that, it's all the proof needed that the virus escaped from the Wuhan Lab.

@veronicagorosito187

3 жыл бұрын

@@rap3208 It seems more of an intentional ''allowed propagation'' release, than a mere ''accident''...

Great interview Freddie..I am afraid we will really never know and feel for the doctors that live in fear.

@stevenverrall4527

3 жыл бұрын

Often in science indirect evidence is all you have. Take nuclear decay, for example. We know that it occurs, but not exactly how. The weak nuclear force mechanism remains one of the mysteries of nature. The same can also be said of gravity on the atomic scale. We don't need to know exactly how covid leaked from the Wuhan lab to be quite certain that it leaked from the lab. Science is generally about most likely explanations rather than absolutes.

Bravo again Freddie, absolutely brilliant interview.

UnHerd NEEDS to interview Kate Wand, John Cullen and Ivor Cummins. ASAP.

@jeanettecollis5653

3 жыл бұрын

Yes John Cullen is very interesting. Ivor too. Can't comment on Kate Wand, must look her up.

@Patrick-gf5xg

3 жыл бұрын

Ivor is great.

You are BRAVE and a Hero Please keep this forum so honest and open We desperately need unbiased forums to turn to

The CCPs should be trialed in the International Court of Justice for they had committed International Crime, why would they destroy evidences and where is the doctor from Hunan province who first discovered the pandemic.

@TripleMRocks

3 жыл бұрын

It is is interesting that none of the attacked countries are doing anything about it…all our governments are in bed with the ccp…they will let it happen again…the whole government is complicit…

Brett and Heather Weinstein needs to see this

@jamesmorris3427

3 жыл бұрын

They covered this last year with yuri deygan

@shamsam4

3 жыл бұрын

They saw this a year ago. Also, I believe she kept her last name of "Heying". I'm not trying to be rude, just pointing it out. They rule!

@megaloschemos9113

3 жыл бұрын

@@shamsam4 Oh yes of course. I'm at work and was typing quite quickly...so was being lazy

Scientists are sacred of calling it out ..because no one wants to be labelled as conspiracy theorists ..but the truth is still not out .... And the scientific community OWES US AN ANSWER

This video needs to be more widely viewed!!!

Superb interview and clearly indicative of the lab escape theory as being the most plausible. Thanks for this more definitive view which I have suspected a while ago.

🤦‍♂️ it’s not a theory. It’s a hypothesis. The difference matters.

Top interview. Can't help feeling that the careful positioning of the book 'Rome' in clear view on Nicolas Wade's shelf behind him may be a subliminal message. This is about more than a pandemic.

@brynleytalbot778

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. There are certainly parallels with our society, money supply, an politicians, that prefaced the collapse of that once great Empire. Sir John Glubb wrote a very interesting paper on the collapse of Empires that makes great reading. My long held view is that even before this pandemic the signs of a collapse of the Western Economic ideology was imminent and with the focus on a vaccine, promoted by vested philanthropists, and further Climate Change modelling forming the basis for another science based solution, I think that the failures of science won't be permitted to be solved by more science likely creating even more problems for it to solve, all creating the potential for economic growth, the driver of the free market Western Economic dream that it'll lift all from poverty. The virus has hit, and continues to hit, those most wounded by economic growth filling the pockets of the wealthy and growing middle classes. If Climate Change hadn't shown the falsehoods of perpetual economic growth this pandemic confirms it - the poor get poorer as the planet is stripped bare by the wealthy and their support act, a growing middle class, happy to take the lifestyle bribe they're offered. We face the collapse of our economic system and all it supports, particularly those who benefitted most by defining their own alleged value within it.

@regalsmartie11

3 жыл бұрын

I saw that too. But he also had at least two other books on Islam... Interesting

Apart from the captivating subject a very professionally conducted interview and by both sides. Kudos to both parties!

One other thing I must say is whenever I see any of the MSM shows I sneer and doubt every word they utter , I was never like this a few years ago but now I distrust every one of them .

@suemassey5076

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I've watched the ongoing lowering of standards, integrity and maturity

@baraka094

3 жыл бұрын

Simple msm asks you What to think you must know how to think

First of all,...I'm a Democrat! But being a physician, it has been clear to me before, and even more clear after Nicholas Wade's article, that the possibility of lab escape must be entertained. Until this article came out, most people, including myself, had no idea how intimately involved the Wuhan lab was with making chimeric corona viruses. It also begs a lot of other questions as well.....

Daszak was horribly compromised. His conduct in this crisis should be closely examined to see whether he has broken any laws or whether he should be thrown out of the professional organisations he is a member of.

@andthereisntone3454

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@Benzknees

3 жыл бұрын

No chance, as Fauci gave him the money that went to the Wuhan Institute. With that & his WHO supporters, he is too well connected to be held to account.

Gain of Function research should be considered a crime against humanity.

@qoph1988

2 жыл бұрын

Oh they already know what they are doing.

Dr. Chris Martenson from Peak Prosperity YT channel was whistleblowing on the furin cleavage site already a year ago - asking at virologist discussion groups about some possible and plausible alternative explanations from them - to be COMPLETELY stonewalled.

Given the timeline and amazing synchronicity of all the events of the last 18 months; Event 201, Great Reset, Sustainable Development plans, ID2020, etc, etc. - anyone who believes the WHO, GAVI, B&MG Foundation, UN et al were not aware of the release have not been paying attention.

@alxdava2004

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent resume!

Another reason origin matters- I think I got this idea from Bret Weinstein: if it was the product of gain of function research, the researchers should have had an idea how the virus behaved and what the clinical presentation would be. Withholding that information could plausibly have been very harmful.

This may be your best interview to date. EXCELLENT work Freddie and Co.

Another brilliant, timely and impartial interview. Thanks UnHerd 👍

Your are a treasure to the world Freddie. keep it up!

First class journalism. Unlike the type on MSN 👏👏👏

Fantastic interview: depressing in many respects, but very informative, clear and thanks to Nicholas Wade for "daring" to outline these possibilities in a considered and fair manner, and to Freddie Sayers for giving him the platform.

People have been talking about the furin cleavage site as evidence since the beginning. I was reading about this over a year ago.

P L A N D E M I C

@thehylander266

3 жыл бұрын

Scamdemic

@yesmate78

3 жыл бұрын

Kluas schwabdemic

Or, like some virus protection programs you can download, their is some concern that the people that write the programs are the same people that create these viruses.

This interview gets ever more important as time passes.

Heather/Bret Weinstein on the Black Horse Podcast is another source of good analysis. Bret Weinstein suggests that on the basis of probabilities, the lab leak should be the null hypothesis, ie., the hypothesis that you assume true until proven otherwise.

Wade should literally be on every msm channel .

Thank you for all of the work you have done and continue to do. Being in the US I so value you and your guests.

Thank you for continuing to ask these important questions.

doesn't this goes by creating bioweapon or is it just me

Rob Kirby, Alex Jones, Stefan Molyneux all spoke about this very thing more than a year ago. UnHerd is vindicating these men with this interview.

Excellent presentation.. Simple but logical questions are asked!! Easy to understand

There hardly needs to be a case. I lived in China. It has been obvious from the beginning.

Moral of the story... trust the conspiracy theorists more than your governments...

@qoph1988

2 жыл бұрын

Let's hear it for the cranks, they really got vindicated the past couple years. People really oughta give them more respect. We as a culture very quickly moved from listening to our learned elders to calling them crazy old kooks. Making it seem crazy to learn from history and be doubtful of the powerful is an intentional tactic.

The truth will out.

This video was very well done. Step by step we were led to the conclusion (my words here) 'that if I were a betting man, I would bet on the so called "lab leak" hypothesis.'

@somatotrophin1535

3 жыл бұрын

Betting men lose a lot of money

Great interview. A credit to both interviewer and interviewee.

Brilliant interview and more inspiring content from UnHerd.Transparency is key to any successful relationship. It is way past the time to stop ALL trade with China and any other state which behaves without virtue, as these relationships only aid GDP, not the individuals and communities which this government should represent.

What are the chances of uncovering the necessary evidence nearly 2 years later? 😬

With the exceptional clear thinking and elocution which Mr Wade possesses it's no wonder that the left throws him overboard.

I wish you had much more views. Excellent interview!

"You can't test them on humans. That would be unethical." Is what the CCP does to the Uyghurs, or Fallon Gong, or Christians, ethical? This is a CCP lab. Open your eyes. Think.

@alxdava2004

3 жыл бұрын

Who cares? Why china has 4500 cases of deaths and the western world has hundreds of thousands?! Where is the flu? Tuberculosis? The usual pulmonary problems that no vaccine have ever got them eradicated? It's all for money and 2030 agenda that is done by those nearby, "civilised" countries.

@makara80

3 жыл бұрын

@@alxdava2004 “Why China has 4500 cases of deaths...” are those CCP statistics by any chance? ;)

@stellarwind1946

3 жыл бұрын

The most important factor in favor of a lab leak and the subsequent coverup is that the government of China has no regard for human life.

@tiberio1352

3 жыл бұрын

YOU need to have your eyes PRIED open. Who paid for the experiment?....do you know the sordid history of FT Detrick??? You are so gaslighted.

@TheRedland284

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah open your eyes, that’s exactly how US wiped out the natives. Introduced a virus to the world from Maryland

Of course it escaped. What are the odds on the epicentre being 7 miles from the research lab by chance? Must be a million to one.

@somatotrophin1535

3 жыл бұрын

The epicentre is not known

1000000000 x EXCELLENT INTERVIEW, interviewer and guest. THANK YOU.

Thumps up for the interviewer. The truth is coming out. The two American doctors should know something in depth regarding this pandemic.

I think it's important to remember that even if the lab leak hypothesis is true, it doesn't necessarily mean there were nefarious motives behind it.

@Patrick-gf5xg

3 жыл бұрын

Of course not but it does mean there are very serious questions to be asked about the complete failure of the global institutions who have pushed the narrative from day 1.

@jeanettecollis5653

3 жыл бұрын

If it is the case it means that thousands upon thousands of people have died needlessly.

@fergalcussen

3 жыл бұрын

Any scientists involved in this kind of research have an incentive to say it wasn't a lab leak, as it means their research could be defunded and/or outlawed.

@richardmajor2563

3 жыл бұрын

That is true but as ANY questioning of the COVID party line results in attack I think we can justly ask those types of question. Mould grows is damp dark places.

@gapstander6059

3 жыл бұрын

How about owning up? Being responsible? Accountable? If it was an accident.. . That such intelligent humans are so evasive on such scores leads one to think nefarious: If lab leak hypothesis is true...and intentional. Fact smack - millions have died. If there is cover-up, doubt sleep comes easy.

Great interview good to get such a detailed explanation. Gain of function is a a rich mans game playing dangerously with nature not to mention the unneccessary torture and misery heaped on thousands of bats. I like the lab escape hypothesis alliance thats formed in Unherd, Bret Weinstein, Rising, Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore, Glen Greenwald, Grayzone and Russell Brand

This genuinely takes courage. Astounding how far our institutions have become compromised.

thank you Nicholas for your courage to speak out what is probably the truth of how the Corona really originated.

Good Journalism

Then, if it is proven it was an 'escape' from the lab, is the next question was it intentional?

@budawang77

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody credible is suggesting it was intentional. Much more likely to have been a mistake, but the consequences have been equally devastating.

@qoph1988

2 жыл бұрын

You've heard of domestic Gladio, now check out the new-and-improved global Gladio! Yes, it was done on purpose. Check the scorecard. I'm sure they just tripped and faceplanted into trillions of dollars and world domination, how lucky for them! Don't let people tell you that this belief is rational and that attributing simple agency to the powerful is conspiracy theorism.

Brilliant as always, Freddie! Top class!

Excellent interview, very helpful. Thank you both, gentlemen.

The first few minutes of this guy speaking has me convinced.

This should be China’s Chernobyl moment. But I doubt it will be.

@johnneville403

3 жыл бұрын

My wife teaches a Chinese boy English online. His teachers say Covid originated in America. The CCP will never allow the truth to emerge from Wuhan.

I don't think the scientific community closed ranks. Maybe the Media, and Social Media did.

great interview... is it possible to get links to material/articles referred to in the piece? ... would be great for sharing information.

Where there's smoke there's fire. Stay curious my friends.

The game's up Lefties 👏👏

Thank you for this and all others. İ follow from the start!

excellent as usual ! Thanks!

the university of Barcelona discovered COV-SARS2 trace particles in the wastewater samples going back April 2019. If true this is way before the outbreak in China. Why is this not investigated or is it also conjecture?

@cometochristorg

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed ! So far all the western personnels who proposes lab leak theory only focus on Wuhan lab and Ms Shi, no one talk about dr. Baric and NC P3 lab who is the higher level overseer and trainer of Shi. The gain of function research was outsourced from us institutions to the Wuhan lab. Are they avoiding discussing US and the western countries involvement in creating this virus? Kind of either hypocritical and/or cowered.

Frauci + grates + chrina

Plenty of channels discussing this 12 months ago were deleted

⛔ "Among school age children, (measles) outbreaks have occurred in schools with vaccination levels of greater than 98%. These outbreaks have occurred in all parts of the country, including areas that had not reported measles for years." -- “Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report,” 29/12/1989

Bret Weinstein ( dark horse podcast ) had same hypothesis 12mts ago about Great🇨🇳🇺🇸Escape

Please interview Michael Malice, Mike Yeadon, Reimer Fullach (sic) and you are doing a fab job!!! We knew it was suspish from the start, no one listened to the tin foil hatters and still don't