Ya gotta question anyone who rips the FD regarding response WITHOUT checking to see if anyone bothered calling 911 OR is more interested in videoing the fire than calling 911 HIMSELF!!!! 😱🤦🏼‍♂️🙄

@anthonysaggio6551

2 жыл бұрын

Or if they are voulnteer

@SteveWard151

2 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! Good for you I feel the same way especially since he didn’t even get close to the structure just peeping around the corner.

@screamingparrot2436

2 жыл бұрын

Or if the first due is on another call therefore the second due that’s further out becomes first due.

@BC41B

2 жыл бұрын

@@screamingparrot2436 Why would you question THAT? Mutual aid/“cover companies” isn’t anything new or obscure.

@screamingparrot2436

2 жыл бұрын

@@BC41B I’m not questioning anything. Just saying he’s bitching about the FD’s response time. It’s a valid reason for why a response time may be delayed. Clearly he has no clue how fire departments work. I’m AGREEING with you.

“Hurry up man!” they were there for like 10 seconds and you except the fire to be out already. What a tool.

2 minutes to clear the call in the 911 dispatch center- police are told first, fire second, about a 30-50 seconds for the truck to leave the station, so 3 minutes there - 2- 3 minutes to get to the area- looks fine to me...

@charlieanderson6752

2 жыл бұрын

Dude you don't know what you're talkin about keep your minute-by-minute to yourself you have no clue what it takes

@polkcountyfireresponse4174

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlieanderson6752 it does take less than a minute to leave a station, & it does take time for dispatch to get the call out to firefighters so he’s right so far. I don’t know about the police before fire part but other than that he is correct

@carriemarcott6302

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlieanderson6752 I just so happens I do, and he is right. #FireFighterFamily and proud of it!

@screamingparrot2436

2 жыл бұрын

@@polkcountyfireresponse4174 definitely spot on, as far as PD it probably depends on the area and/or procedure. I know in my county it’s up law enforcements discretion if they respond.( unless of course FD requests them for whatever reason) “CENCOM” which is the centralized dispatch for fire,LE, EMS they advise LE either PD or SO that fires responding to….then if an officer or deputy is available they MIGHT respond to assist in any way they can.

Less than three minutes into the video and you are wondering what is taking the fire department so long????

One thing i hate more than anything is the"wannabe firefighters"standing around complaining about the timing of the fire dept.

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

The person behind the camera commenting is far from a "wannabe", they are just being an armchair quarterback or a "Karen" because they are ignorant of the actual time it takes to get an emergency call out to responders, and how long it takes for those responders to arrive due to preparation time in the case of the Fire Service. location they are responding from, and the need for caution enroute due to uncooperative drivers, traffic, weather and road conditions. 10-15 minutes is an excellent response time for any first responders, and I speak from personal experience. thank-you for your support of emergency responders though.

@anthonysaggio6551

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrotherExperimentus so true

I had spoken to my coworker and their family friend was residing in the home which the fire started from. From what I’ve been told it was the window AC that caught fire and resulted in the upper floors of the two homes being engulfed.

@roxay_rich22

2 жыл бұрын

Getting chills watching this. My cousins house burned down last week. The tv console caught fire…

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

I am glad that nobody was injured from your cowrorker's friend's family. Sorry for their loss of property. I haven't much to give at the moment but if they need anything please reply to me here, we are in the process of moving and perhaps some of the things we are planning to get rid of could replace that which was lost. I am in Toronto.

I guess people don't realize that Fire Departments aren't around the corner, they could be 15-30 min away.

@soniadowney7427

2 жыл бұрын

I heard him say they're just down the road

@mnmandthegang

2 жыл бұрын

@@soniadowney7427 down the road could mean anything, when our clinic caught fire, it took almost 2 minutes. The fire station is literally 2 long blocks, you can see it out our window. It takes time for the call to go out, in our case we pulled the alarm and called. Luckily no one was hurt. Break room totally destroyed.

Is it just me but why does the Police care have to be parked in the way of the firetrucks?

They had water on that fast thumbs up to the fire department job well done

Hurry up man? Maybe if you called 911 instead of filming someone loosing their possessions they would have arrived sooner.. JS

That's scary!! My heart goes out to the family. It must be terrible to see your home burn in flames. This is close to my home.

@Blazen747

Жыл бұрын

Ikr hopefully everyone is ok

I wonder if everyone is out of the house?

Gotta maintain those air conditioners. Every year the coils should be hosed with water to get the dust and dirt out. Window AC’s: take the whole metal cover shroud off and clean out the condenser coil‘s. Just spray it with the garden hose. You’ll see muddy dusty dirt come out. This can overheat an air conditioner, plus by doing this you’ll get way better cooling. The water from the hose won’t hurt the machine in anyway. Central air conditioners too. Clean those coils! (unplug it of course, hopefully that goes without saying🙄)

As long as everybody safe that's what counts, material things can be replaced but not life ...

"Is everybody out of the house?"... From half a block away.... Just sayin'.

@garystar1592

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@carriemarcott6302

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, as he screams from a half a block away too scared to go help.

Was confirmed nobody was left in the units before arrival, second truck to arrive made entry

Don't give up your full time job to take fire videos

@mdolci1960

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely… terrible video coverage. Why even bother? SMFH

@StormHunter71

2 жыл бұрын

im thinking Landscape FTW

That garden hose is working to the 2nd floor

Too bad people don't know the camera still works if it's held on the horizontal. Sheesh 🙄

"Holy mackra" & "jeepers creapers" in one video! 🤣🤣

Wow! The Canadian firefighters are fast with put *water* into the fire in opposite to the U.S.A. firefighters and this with the same gear and fire apparatus. This is so wonderfully to see.

@johneton6143

Жыл бұрын

Not true American firetruck men move fast, look at New York, chicago, Davenport Iowa fire dept etc

So when you dial 911 on what magical realm does a fire engine deploy, fly through traffic and set up in 2-3 minutes

“ hurry up man “ let’s see, scene size up, have to do your 360, pull your cross lay or pre connect, get water to your line. Where’s it at,where’s it been, where’s it going, all in all they got water on it quick. Go job brothers

Beautiful video of the streets. No potholes.

@CreedBrattonTheOffice

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Nice clean road there.

@SteveWard151

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha . I know what ya mean and I was thinking about the same thing. Cleanest road I ever seen!!! 😅

great catch bro.

Filming in the background, yelling at people from a big distance to come out of the house instead of helping and then asking why the fire department is taking so long.... well.... could be done better. In fact the fire department did an excellent job! They had water on the fire really quick! In some other situations the whole roof would have burned when they finally get water on it. But not this time.

Did Everybody get out of the house? Is this person ok

@JakeW26

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the report said they pooped their pants and the undies were a total loss unfortunately 💩

"GOOD THING THERE WASN'T A FIRE" Ahhh smell that sarcasm😈😈😈😈 my favorite

@ffjsb

2 жыл бұрын

No, that's just ignorance.

@BrodeyDoverosx

2 жыл бұрын

@@ffjsb the FD did just fine. This dude reeks of entitlement.

@StormHunter71

2 жыл бұрын

yeah he was a huge dumbass, he had absolutely no clue if the closest station was already on a run (maybe a false alarm or 911 abuser)

@HannTheftAudio

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you guys on that. i don't even know where the nearest station is in my city. i just know what T3 really gets around in my neighborhood

@thatzombieplace

2 жыл бұрын

Holy mackeral!!

The closest Engine was probably on someone who's had a stomach ache for 3 days and wanted to be seen first in the ER.

At least they didn't have to go far for a water source.

The ones that say where is the fire department are the same ones that will complain about a new fire station being built in there neighborhood.

The guy with the garden hose is my hero 👍

Become a Firefighter then your opinion means something. Sit in an armchair or behind a camera then your opinion means squat.

Your all videoing no one called

Luckily no victims. But did the guy with the garden hose seriously think he could do something with it? Didn't he notice that his "jet of water" didn't even reach the top? Well, in the panic, logical thinking probably switches off.-

PLEASE TELL ME THAT HE DIDN'T SAY JEEPERS CREEPERS lmao

@charleshughes7518

2 жыл бұрын

Yep he sure did,hes just a firefighter wannabe,has no idea how the 911 system works.

You can tell by the tone of everybody just as the fire department arrives that they are already thinking bout who they are going to dump their kids on for "just two weeks" till school starts

Guy with a garden… get they hell out there…

"about time I heard a siren. Jeepers creepers."

Is everyone out of the house??? Why don't you put your fucking phone down and go find out???

Quick knock down!

That baby is starting to cook

Whose the voice with the impatient requests ? You need to join the FD

Job well YRFD !

Should everyone get out? Maybe if everyone said it another 34234324 times... That guy talking was the most annoying person

section 8 moms everywhere...

@chipwatkins7119

8 ай бұрын

Yeah clown what a stereotype! Trust me if only black people were on Section 8 there wouldn't be no section 8!

Smart firefighting, get water in the window to slow spread to the attic and lower inside temps for inside attack.

Wow I paid for a full screen and I get only 1/3 of a screen. Makes me wonder what you are hiding. Well you get low marks for a bad video format.

@pascalmarch

2 жыл бұрын

I don't remember getting a cheque

@73bubbie

2 жыл бұрын

If his recording was as good as his clueless complaining it would have been a gem!

@eastcoastlogworx9481

2 жыл бұрын

@@73bubbie well said

figures cop car in the way

WOW WHAT IN THE HELL WAS THAT GARDEN HOSE GOING TO DO WITH THAT BIG HOUSE FIRE?

I guess that patrol car carries water?

Waste the camera guy afraid to walk down the street and show us the fire?? This is like peeking around the corner. Instead of complaining put down the camera and call 911 yourself. Another example why I like my dog more than people!!!! As George Carlin said. “The public sucks”.

What the hell

Lf u r that conserned go look in each apt

I don't understand why they didn't go inside

@04u2cY

2 жыл бұрын

I agree the fire was venting out the window they could of walked right up to the fire and knocked it down in minutes.

@slbewsp

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps not enough manpower to do it safely.

@Old_Tyme_Racing

2 жыл бұрын

@@04u2cY because the fire could be in the walls and just because you don’t see flames doesn’t mean there isn’t fire in the halls and stairs because the black smoke can hide it.

@04u2cY

2 жыл бұрын

@@Old_Tyme_Racing yes I agree the fire could be in walls but when you have one room burning and the fire is venting that fire is pulling air and the smoke right out the window you can walk right up to the room and actually see the smoke trying to come out of the burning room but getting sucked back in that is why ventilation is so important and after the fire is knocked down the truck company start opening up the walls and ceiling to check for fire these kind of fire are called one room burn out.

@Jimmythefish577

2 жыл бұрын

Because it was quicker to put it out from the exterior prior to transitioning to the interior? Did it go out as a result of their decision to attack from the outside first? Yup. So what’s the issue with their tactics?

Hell no

@paulmarecki8639

2 жыл бұрын

Smokin that crack

From air brake to flowing water was about 1:30. That’s painfully long when there’s wide open space like that. It should have been well under 30 seconds from a proficient crew

Not rapid.

canadian police must have learned from american police, always park your car right where the fire trucks need to operate. The arm chair quarter backing by camera man was a little overdone

@kennethjudd5836

2 жыл бұрын

A little?

Nice to see that Canadians aren't any better at estimating response time than Americans. He's the one who will insist it took twenty minutes for the FD to arrive. (It's always "twenty minutes")

@ALuimes

2 жыл бұрын

Just as all exotic meats tastes like chicken

Did they ever go inside smh

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

I am sure they did but there was no immediate need to entre since it appears everyone was out so why would they rush is when they could start fighting the fire from outside? Since you are shaking your head virtually in presumed disbelief, please, enlighten us with your extensive knowledge and experience in fire fighting as to why they would have to run in blindly, Chief... This video, like many other amateur videos of emergency situations does not cover to the very end of the response which would be a couple of hours during which time the fire fighters would have to enter to ensure that the fire was completely out and to determine cause or probable cause for the blaze.

Bad Camera movement.

MAN YOU SHOOT LOUSY VIDS WHY WASN'T YOU UP CLOSER TO FILM WHAT THEY'RE DOING INSTEAD OF BEING AWAY FROM THE SCENE OF THE FIRE?

😬

Has there ever been a cop that didn’t roll up to a fire scene and get his cruiser as much in the way as possible. Especially the one backing out in front of the 2nd due engine.

@barnsbury1956

2 жыл бұрын

That's not a cop that's the Fire Chief, Duh

@studboyspark

2 жыл бұрын

@@barnsbury1956 look again the fire chief was coming behind the 2nd engine. Cop backed out in front of engine then pulled back in front of chief.

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am one of them and there are many others. Please, also look at the fact that the Police were first on scene and immediately went to check on occupants and the other cruiser was closing the road to aid with keeping other traffic out of the area for responding fire units.

@peteondrusko814

2 жыл бұрын

Cops do this almost habitually. They need to park at least a block away and hoof it to the scene. Absolutely ridiculous!

exterior attack? huh????

That was an effective attack, congrats! But, sorry, I always miss on US firefighting equipment the fast attack hose, in Europe mostly a rigid hose 30- 60m long on a spool and of course feed by the onboard tank (mostly 2000 Liter) and available within 10 seconds after arrival.

@virgilhilts3924

9 ай бұрын

10 seconds is meaningless when you are working with a glorified garden hose GPM's kill BTU's... Not seconds Which is why US FD's started ditching reel-lines back in the 80's

That was great footage. It makes me wonder though why it took the fire department so long to arrive on scene.

@ffjsb

2 жыл бұрын

It took the fire dept. so long to get there because every moron on the street was either yelling "get out" or recording the fire. None of these idiots actually thought to call 911...

@BrodeyDoverosx

2 жыл бұрын

You know all those times people don’t pull over? Yeah that’s why.

@georgewilkinson6510

2 жыл бұрын

By my calculations just over 6 minutes Not bad.

@garystar1592

2 жыл бұрын

Real life is not like a Hollywood movie. The time to call the incident in, for the 9-1-1 validate (they do not see the address of the incident when the call comes in from a cell phone)the information, for the Firefighter's to suit up, and leave the station is 1-2 mins, plus response was within the standards. More important, NEVER go back into a burning house, do not try without any protective gear, training to try and suppress a fire with a garden hose putting yourself at unnecessary risk. Seems the two young children did what is taught to them in School, get out safely, do not return, and wait at a safe distance, as opposed to some of the adults screaming and running around.

@donnamitchell7707

2 жыл бұрын

@@garystar1592 I agree with you. It looked like the citizens were trying to help,but they should have made sure everyone was out by yelling from the door, not going inside without protection.

First line should have advanced to the seat of the fire the only way it’s going out.

@andyoxleyonhistravels

2 жыл бұрын

They hit the fire compartment ,whats wrong with that.

@richardburke5

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyoxleyonhistravels you should read the Fire Officers Handbook chapter on Engine Company Operations

@andyoxleyonhistravels

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardburke5 Why , tell me what is wrong with hitting the fire compartment ?

@Jimmythefish577

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyoxleyonhistravels because that’s what the book says, c’mon man, we always firefight from the book! Why would we get water on fire as quickly as possible, that makes it go away! I’m originally from the UK, I’m an FF here in Canada now, the obsession with ‘going interior’ is unbelievable, I’m told cooling from a safe location (hitting it hard from the yard) isn’t manly enough. God forbid you apply water to the fire and perhaps improve conditions for any victims still inside the structure prior to transitioning to interior operations. A straight stream directed at an acute angle into the involved room can quickly reset that room to pre flashover conditions and lower the temp in the uninvolved areas by 400deg F, thus making those spaces survivable for any casualties in there. But trying to explain this to most NA firefighters is like talking to a pike pole.

@andyoxleyonhistravels

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jimmythefish577 I couldnt have said it better myself Jim. While your interior crews are getting ready to go inside the best thing you can do is hit it from outside if you can. After 25 years i have always found that if you do that the interior crews can move much quicker once they are inside and start searching as you have knocked the fire back ,reduced the heat and removed the chance of a flashover or backdraught. Pretty simple really.

You have to wonder why other departments can’t get the idea that putting water on a fire immediately upon arrival will often - hmmm - put it out. I’d trade fast arrival for that any day.

@simmer484

2 жыл бұрын

There are many fire videos from the US that seem very similar. There seems to be several minutes before water starts appearing but then you see videos from around the world where water is on immediately. I don't know the reasons for this but it is a noticeable difference.

@virgilhilts3924

9 ай бұрын

Because professional firefighters do searches before flooding the building with steam and toxic gasses

@virgilhilts3924

9 ай бұрын

@@simmer484 Because those departments largely ignore proven fire science. If there are potential trapped victims the last thing you want to do is flood survivable spaces with super heated steam and toxic gasses.

It is sicken to see all the armchair comments about response time, how the firefighters did this wrong, and public housing, blah blah blah…..this can happen to anyone, so be thankful you don’t have to live through this.

Wow they should have waited longer before getting there maybe it's an urban renewel project let it burn to ground

@azul8811

2 жыл бұрын

At what time was 911 notified?

@Brian13549

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the closest station was on another call

I don't get why FFs don't just pull up and deck-gun. It should be policy.

@04u2cY

2 жыл бұрын

When you have just one room burning and use a deck gun you can do more damage with the deck gun than the fire will. Also if someone is trapped you can end up causing more harm pushing smoke and fire towards them if neither has reached them yet. Anyway deck gun is very useful very powerful they knock down a lot of fire but not every fire is deck gun fire.

@StormHunter71

2 жыл бұрын

@@04u2cY Louie is right you know, these guys did a great job on the fire attack

@46fd04

2 жыл бұрын

Because some FD's (like the one I work for) do not use deck guns

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

@@firstinlastout869 Meaning what? You disapprove of this response? I have watched responses from FDNY here and I have been present as an emergency responder (police) at many fires here in Canada and the response is equally effective, organized and professional by both. So again, what does your comment imply?

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

@@firstinlastout869 Your opinion, which you have a right to, and my opinion of your opinion is that your opinion is a crappy opinion and completely without merit, but whatever, you obviously value property over life if you would have risked the lives of fire fighters entering immediately for no exigent circumstances with only preservation of property as the reason. That would be "crappy tactics". Good luck in life with your lack of value in the lives of others,

Get inside and get it. Not surround and drown that burns them down.

@johnnz4375

2 жыл бұрын

Not a firefighter I guess.

@richardfissel3317

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnz4375 I have 40 yrs as a fire fighter retired.

@richardfissel3317

2 жыл бұрын

Also a drive in Fire Science Technology.

@richardfissel3317

2 жыл бұрын

Drgee

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

Funny that while I was a police officer, I never saw the fire service rush inside unless there was imminent threat to life and they were always able to knock the fire down from outside at the start before doing an interior attack so as not to add undue risk to the lives of the fire fighters for the sole purpose of saving property, which usually came out okay, all things considered except where it was fully involved. I guess I will have to defer to your degree and experience at cooking your crews alive to save someone else's insurance money because that structure was worth more than the lives of your fellow fire fighters, right?

Really dumb place to park the police car. He should have checked on any victims in the structure and then got the wondering crowd back and away from the scene.

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

While at the same time finding an appropriate parking spot far away from the scene so that he had to walk or run the rest of the way so his POLICE VEHICLE didn't block fire trucks, which if you watch again and pay attention this time, it didn't. The fire trucks had plenty of room to get around the first cruiser on scene, which was a safe distance from the involved structure, on the opposite curb and nowhere near directly in front. Where is the spot in this footage where the police impeded the fire service and when would you have suggested the officer stop doing their job to park elsewhere? The officer was, as you said yourself, checking on whether there were still occupants in the burning home, and keeping people safely away. When do you suggest was an appropriate time to walk away from doing that? I know, people ALWAYS listen to the police when instructed to do something and there is no way more curious people would have walked into the area should the officer have left to repark their cruiser which was not obstructing anything.

Thank god the police got there quick ...to block out the firetrucks.

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure why this comment keeps coming up but once more, there was one police unit that was first on scene, and responsible for ensuring that everyone was out, that no one attempted to go back in, and that everyone was a safe distance from the structure on fire, which is a lot for one person to do.... but you want them to park a mile away and run up so you can then complain about why the police arrived so late. Also, I do not see at any point in the video where police impeded the Fire Service but I did see one white car that was in the way because the driver didn't seem to get that the road was closed and that was why there was a police cruiser in front of them and a fire truck behind them, on the air horn to move.

This is ALMOST the right way to fight fires people. You can see the burning material so you apply tank water directly to it before you do anything else. You "Eliminate the threat quickly and safely while using the least amount of water." Now, what are the Two things that he did wrong?

@ALee8456

2 жыл бұрын

🤡

@virgilhilts3924

9 ай бұрын

Once again ole JB blowing his hole and proving he's never been a firefighter and knows nothing about fire fighting

@virgilhilts3924

9 ай бұрын

@@ALee8456 Understatement 😃

Cops all in the way, camera guy is clueless about how 911 works, FD is slow in response time, but damn water on the fire very quick.

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

Please, explain how one police unit that was the first emergency responder on scene parking on the opposite curb near the structure on fire so that the officer could check on occupants and keep neighbours away from the house and out of the way of the fire service was "cops all in the way"? The Fire Service arrived in 7 minutes from the start of the video how was that "slow in response"? From what wealth of emergency services experience did you draw your profound conclusions to criticize the police and fire personnel who responded to possibly risk their lives for others? Were you there helping?

@charlesmock4053

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrotherExperimentus 1st off, no police officer should ever be on a fire scene that close with telheur vehicle. He ended up preventing 2nd engine from getting closer. 2nd officer was blocking the drive way getting in the way of the FD. Now, no truck can get in where they should be to possibly set up master stream. The FD was slow in response but quick with water on fire once on scene. Police are always taught not to get involved at fire scenes unless requested by FD.

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesmock4053 Well, Charles, I see you are far more knowledgeable about scene management and what those officers were doing (there job) since you are obviously a veteran police officer that has attended multiple fire scenes and know exactly how all of this works... oh wait, no, that would be ME. All f your counterpoints are incorrect in your reckoning and if you do have employment in emergency services, which is doubtful at best, please find another occupation if you believe that the closure of a street at a fire scene by police, the responsibility of first on scene is preservation of life not finding a good parking spot (which the officer was right where they should have been) and that the fire service's response of 7 minutes was "slow" you are not dealing with reality and need to do something where other people's lives do not hang in the balance.

@charlesmock4053

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrotherExperimentus well it's THEIR job to protect lives, not try to be firemen. Getting on scene and leaving the alpha side open for fire department should be priority. You don't close off the entrance period. Normal fire operations dictate a truck be positioned in the front with 1st engine. The 1st officer who arrived on scene should have parked elsewhere and try to determine if everyone was out. 7 minutes response time for this area is not in line with acceptable practices. If your a LEO, stick to law enforcement and leave fire operations to the FIRE DEPARTMENT!!! Btw, get out of law enforcement with your bad attitude, puts a big stain on the good cops.

@BrotherExperimentus

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesmock4053 Sir, are you a fire fighter? Are you a police officer? Are you a paramedic? Where do you draw your knowledge from? Yes, I was a police officer for 10 years and a Patrol Supervisor. I responded to many, many active fire scenes and MY first priority upon arrival is PRESERVATION OF LIFE not following some bizarre unwritten code of conduct cooked up in your mind. I have been in burning structures to rescue occupants and I am not parking 3 blocks away when my primary responsibility is at that scene. The officers were CLOSING THE ROAD TO ASSIST THE FIRE SERVICE NOT BLOCKING THEIR ACCESS! 7 minutes response time is MORE than acceptable for ANY AREA but you wouldn't know that because your actual knowledge of what is happening here or at any emergency scene is showing clearly with your repeated conjectures that anything was done incorrectly here because IT WASN'T! The fire service, police and EMS work TOGETHER and our jobs cross over lines in reaching the goal of preservation of life and protection of property, so, I AM Sticking to my job as a police officer by doing exactly as I have done and as the officer did in this incident did. Emergency Scene Management is PART of the JOB of POLICE even if that happens to be a fire scene. That includes ROAD CLOSURES, TRAFFIC CONTROL, and CROWD CONTROL to ensure that the fire fighters are unhampered in their operations. As first responder that also means controlling the immediate scene and parking away from it increases the amount of time it would take to "determine everyone was out" and thus reduce the chances of being able to affect a rescue if that had not been the case. So, unless you have served or currently serve as a fire fighter and a law enforcement officer, your evaluation of what took place here is invalid and YOU SHOULD LEAVE POLICE AND FIRE OPERATIONS TO THE TRAINED PROFESSIONALS INSTEAD OF PLAYING ARMCHAIR QUARTERBACK FOR A SITUATION THAT YOU HAVE HAD NO EXPERIENCE WITH AND STOP INSULTING THE GOOD WORK THAT THESE BRAVE EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL PROVIDED IN THIS INCIDENT AND ALMOST EVERY OTHER INCIDENT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. In closing I would also like to address you comment about "If your (sic)(you need to learn the difference between your and you're because you used the wrong one) a LEO..." I do not have a bad attitude. I am not insulting you by calling you names nor have I but I will not be lectured or have others risking their lives to do a very difficult and often thankless job be belittled or berated by the likes of someone who has no knowledge or experience in what they are talking about. My attitude in addressing you is exactly appropriate as you get what you give. You want respect, then give respect. If my career of helping people and saving lives was a "stain on good cops" then I would hate to meet or work with those you consider "good cops" if that means running from danger, not giving of yourself for the well-being of others, being firm but fair with all while remaining unbiased, respectful and objective. If that was being a "stain" then I guess I am a stain, but I could introduce you to hundred of people from the community that I served who would prefer to haver my "stain" on their lives as opposed to not and that includes victims of crime, the general public and even many of those who ended up on the wrong side of the law. You, sir, are opinionated and are trying to be a bully and my one bias is I do not like bullies no matter where they are from. You are entitled to your opinion because that is your right but it is my right to correct the errors in your opinion based on my experience, training and expertise, all of which you obviously lack other than what you have learned snippets of from watching KZread videos.

To the attention of the person who was behind the camera here, have some respect and courtesy for those who risk their lives daily to save others that they do not even know, selflessly. You commented about how long it was taking for the fire department to arrive and that the closest station was only a short distance away without knowing when or if anyone had called 911 or if the closest station was not already engaged in a call elsewhere. 7 minutes is a really good response time for the fire service who have to receive the call from the dispatcher who has to take the information from the caller before being able to contact the response units and then these brave souls need to record that information while getting geared up and starting the engine before having to fight with traffic enroute to the location of the emergency. Traffic that usually does not yield to emergency vehicles immediately or at all. So while you are standing there criticizing these courageous people for doing a fantastic job of responding to risk their own well-being and lives, while you were standing behind a phone camera a block away doing absolutely nothing to help your neighbours by: ensuring 911 has been called with appropriate information (which you wouldn't have given since you were filming the wrong building at the start); and rather than shouting weakly from your safe position to get out of the house instead of putting the phone away and actually running over to ensure everyone was out by knocking on doors and asking those around, as well as actually, physically directing them to get back; perhaps asking someone to go to the nearest major intersection to direct emergency responders in to the right area in case the information they got was not clear or incorrect; but most of all if you plan to do nothing but make a video for your own personal glory on KZread documenting the actions of those who are doing a job you are obviously too afraid to do yourself, then at the very least be thankful and respectful for their being there and commend them, do not condemn them over something you know nothing about. It is truly disappointing to know that there are people such as yourself making disparaging comments like "They're already out... #%*$ man." when the Fire Department began knocking and calling to see if anyone was still inside while you are not even close enough to capture the names of these heroic fire fighters on the bottom of their bunker gear in 5", reflective lettering, and you didn't go over to tell them that others had knocked without response pre-arrival, which if you knew anything, does not mean there is nobody inside. As a veteran Police Officer, I want to extend my congratulations and admiration to the great response and work exhibited by the York Regional Police and the the Central York Fire Service in this video. You are heroes all and appreciated by many. Please, be safe and thank-you for all that you have done, all that you do, and all that you will be called upon to do in the future.

@johneton6143

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, DONT JUDGE FIRE DEPT