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Glad you mentioned F. Scott F.’s Great Gatsby. My dad recalled the Ashland’s, describing them poeticly. Hindu Lord Shiva is often described as dwelling in ash heaps

I remember the supers of the apartment building taking out trash cans filled with furnaces ashes...This was in Queens. Great Stories,I remember my grandfather telling the stories about Flushing meadows past.

@gy2gy246

Ай бұрын

I grew up in the Bronx, and the boiler ran on coal.

@LongIslandMopars

Ай бұрын

Our Queens house was modern. Built in 1939, it was heated with fuel oil. 😎

I remember my grandparents, who lived in an old coal mining town, calling such metal containers “ash cans.” I never gave this much thought as a child because garbage cans (all of them metal at the time) and garbage collection was kind of a new thing, or at least for us since we still had a concrete incinerator and burned our trash every few days. Thanks for the too long delayed clarification.

Is this why trashcans are also called ashcans?

@christinecollins6648

Ай бұрын

Sounds right!

@daewooparts

Ай бұрын

Ashcans are also known as large powerful firecrackers 🧨 💥 aka M80's & Blockbusters

@kenjohnson8510

Ай бұрын

Yes. Growing up in Minneapolis in the '50's, EVERY house had a trashcan (a.k.a. 'burn barrel's) out back where we dumped daily house trash, grass clippings, and other burnable stuff and then burned it all on Saturdays.

@daewooparts

Ай бұрын

@@kenjohnson8510, I still use a good old burn barrel 🛢 🔥 😉

@deathgun3110

Ай бұрын

You can't pronounce trashcan without saying ashcan, so mayby it's just people being lazy and smart.

As long as it's just pure ash, not mixed with toxic chemicals and/or heavy metals, it would be beneficial to keep it around under ground. The same way a forest fire isn't the end of the forest, it's a thriving new beginning as the ash works as a fertilizer for new growth. Sure, it takes (in human lifespan scale) a long time for a forest to regrow, but a forest that hasn't seen fire in a long long time is more than likely very sick and slowly dying from lack of nutrients in the ground. Also, after a forest fire has raged, all lakes that have had ash fallen into them become crystal clear and smothering bacteria and algae like plants will be severely diminished, allowing for a much higher diversity in plant life in the water. Ash binds small particulates in the water and makes it sink to the bottom.

I worked for the NYC schools as a tradesman from 1989-2015. In the early 90s the city schools still burned coal for heat and hot water. By the late 90s into the 2000s mostly all city schools were converted to oil and gas. Prior to the conversion each school had firemen that would shovel and monitor the coal fired boilers on a day and night basis. I remember seeing the loads of coal being delivered and stored in coal bunkers and the spent ash being disposed of in those heavy duty ash cans. Great story on the history of Corona park thanks for sharing.

@LongIslandMopars

Ай бұрын

My childhood friend got a job in the school system as an assistant to a superintendent. I remember going with him to a school that still had coal boilers. They were huge. So cool.

I have a much smaller one of these ash dumps in my town. Bout 16 acres and and river front property because of course they picked that. Today its capped and in heavy use today. They lease the land to a organic recycling company so it typically has 30000 yards of mulch and wood chips 30-50000 yards of leaves and grassed composting into top soil and they have a lot of top soil. As a landscaper I go there often the place is still a hell on earth but necessary.

We also now use ash to make certain type cement and asphalt

@mariebelladonna437

Ай бұрын

So then it would be...ash-phalt.😏😎

@7:20 - that may have been the smoothest transition to date, across all the folks I follow. You added a data point to the story in order to blend into the sponsor. Nicely done sir!

11:09 ,went from Flowing water 💧to basically Flushing the toilet 🚽& a dump 💩

hello from the ash dump i mean flushing nyc. where im watching this. its great to learn about where you live. thanks

A fascinating story, thank you!

The building where I grew up in NYC had a coal boiler, and I remember the ash cans. Also the school where I taught in the '60's to '70's ran on coal. The building was 100 years old.

Another great and interesting story Ryan. Thanks

Putting the ash aside, The still photo at 15:54 is the Long Island RR to the left is the Whitestone branch and further down to the right is the Flushing Central RR both long gone. The center track is still in use today. work around that park for years and lots of story's of interest in that area😊

The Fresh Kills Landfall in Staten Island is also in the process of becoming a giant park today ,going from the world's largest Landfill to one of the largest parks in NYC, it once was a prestine salt water marsh with one of the best & most productive clamming spots on the east coast, it was technically a illegal dump as the City of New York failed to get the legal permission to do so originally

@user-dj7wv5ok2x

Ай бұрын

However, due to its geological instability, nothing of significance can be constructed there.

@jeffbybee5207

7 күн бұрын

Who would the government ask.... It's self of course and it gave it's self permission

Interesting video, here in Toronto, We still used incinerators up until I think 1987!

@user-dj7wv5ok2x

Ай бұрын

And then what happened?!

Many apartment buildings had in house incinerators.

Great content, very informative

@ITSHISTORY

Ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

Gives some great context to "the valley of ashes between West Egg and Manhattan" referenced in the Great Gatsby

@brettmuir5679

Ай бұрын

I was gunna say that :)

I still remember reading the description of the dump in Gatsby. It stayed with me. I've visited the park a few times over the years since, and its so hard to believe its the same place.

Another great video in the books🤟

My father was born in 1917 and he sometimes used the terms "ash heap" and "ash can" in conversation, even though neither was something that was still in existence during my lifetime.

@gy2gy246

Ай бұрын

It's a retronym, a word indicating a lost technology. Like saying "I'll dial you" when phones no longer have dials.

I grew up in this area flushing Medow's park & connecting willow lake park were our stomping grounds back in the late 60's & 70's Park drive east area.

So, with the closure of the dump, what did NY do? Did NY change from coal to oil? Even so, what did they do with their waste?

Great! Thanks

@ITSHISTORY

Ай бұрын

You're welcome!

Will Cnty IL had a humongous ash pile near Plainfield mysteriously disappear also!🤔

I don't remember anyone doing a story on the once Smoky and Smoldering New Jersey Meadowlands! Of which New Yorkers complained about for decades.

@Chips2323

Ай бұрын

I think someone famous (ashes) was spread across one of the end zone, I think his first name was Al (not ai) LOL...

U should do a video on the old PPG Lime Lakes in Barberton Ohio

the latest "Great Gatsby" movie protrayed the ash dump pretty well I thought.

At last I know why back in 1960s Detroit the old folks called garbage cans 'ash cans'. Thanks 👍

Why do we say, 'can fill up x many Olympic swimming pools?' How many people earth wide have seen an Olympic swimming pool? Wouldn't it be more relevant to say, 'can fill up x many 40 foot containers?' Everybody on the planet has seen a 40 foot container. Just to think about.

@darryljorden9177

Ай бұрын

What's a "foot", asks the non-American. 😊

@trudy__taylorandjorjamummy

Ай бұрын

​​@@darryljorden9177 12 inches, or 30.5cm

@davidleonard1813

7 күн бұрын

Pretty sure anyone that knows what a 40 footer is has seen the Olympics on TV or the internet.

Great Gatsby had us knowing bout this since 5th grade

Maybe the next video can feature other ash monofills that have become great places: the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens and JFK airport are two good examples.

There's plenty of documentation about the site and the reclamation / cleanup. "Flushing Meadows - Corona Park Studio Report". Drainage installed, topsoil "created" from bay mud.

3:24 , what is up with that car on the right? Is it getting towed?

You're so cute. I'm glad you show more of yourself in these videos.

@ITSHISTORY

Ай бұрын

😊 thank you

I confused. I thought ash after burning did not pose any bacterial or food for rats. No if you’re referring to raw garbage, that’s different.

Now the location of Arthur Ashe Stadium.

We had coal heat when I was a kid.Everyone had a driveway made of ashes

These kinds of dumps are nothing but huge ash holes.

beauty comes from ugly. great video 2x👍

The picture at 11:00 is of the 1964 World's Fair, not the 1939.

Where do you think the term "Cinder Block" comes from?

My plastic robocans say 'no hot ashes" on them.

@fuzzjunky

Ай бұрын

that's pretty standard around the world though. ashes put an end to many plastic bins until we worked it out.

Ironically the site of Arthur Ashe stadium......

You said back then they didn't relocate landfills they don't do it today either 😂😂😂😂

Hmmmmm I wonder is anything "nasty" leaches up during heavy rains ???

There is more than ash buried there..😊

To say nothing about the GIANT Crocagators that used to hide in tunnels they dug in the ash heaps and the dozens and dozens of ppl who "disappeared" over the years in and around that dump.

Ryan consistently has the best segues on KZread

R.I.P. Myrtle Wilson 🎵Love is blindness I don't wanna see Won't you wrap the night Around me? Oh my heart Love is blindness In a parked car In a crowded street You see your love Made complete Thread is ripping The knot is slipping Love is blindness🎶

What kind of disease could survive in burning ash?

And here I thought Linus Sebastian was the king of the segways to sponsors lol

*Industries might have a polution problem, but don't forget that industry produces for the people...If people were producing their needs on their own, the polution would be even worst !*

Ahhh... the Mets play on an Ash Dump. Makes sense.

Wait, wait, wait. You mentioned human remains and just keep going? We're not going to circle back to wth that meant?

@1puppetbike

Ай бұрын

It means dead people were sometimes burnt and tossed with the garbage. 😮

@darryljorden9177

Ай бұрын

"Bring out yer dead!" .

@RobSchellinger

Ай бұрын

@@1puppetbike Out of convenience or cover up?

It could be cubed and dumped in the deep ocean.

Flushing Park and 2 World's Fairs. Thank you Robert Moses.

"Turn of the century" no longer means what you think it means :)

He called f Scott Fitzgerald Francis Scott key

@RoS_98

Ай бұрын

The author's full name is Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald.

Something doesn’t jive, wasn’t the 1939 Worlds Fair also in Flushing Corona

@darryljorden9177

Ай бұрын

The 1939 and 1964 fairs were both held at the same location.

What’s up with the fake photo at 3:30

@mikebetsanes9830

Ай бұрын

Just looks colorized to me

Getting your ahes hauled, more than one meaning gentalmen !

Ash as a problem. But then you had asbestos?

@avman2cl

Ай бұрын

Sounds like the ash problem was cleaned up but asbestos still plagues our society and will for a long time. It was literally in everything

Couldn’t lots of rare earth metals be within the ash? Currently China is the world leader in rare earth metals since they harvest at lot from coal ash.

NYC burned anthracite coal. Anthracite when burned does not give off particulates

@user-dj7wv5ok2x

Ай бұрын

Depending on how WELL you burn it; anthracite has a much higher ignition temperature than bituminous, and needs a good, strong WOOD FIRE to get the initial coal burning. Proper air supply, such as underfire and override air, plus draft control, will produce no visible smoke.

Now it's home to the Mets!

And if there is a one in a life time massive rain and flooding.... That packed down ash will be washed away. Outcome,...a total nightmare.

NYC was infinitely cleaner then than it is today.

Wow, thanks, never knew of this but know such things were not rare back then. How horrific we are to ourselves and to the land/environment!! Can't imagine what humungous heaps the current population would have accumulated. OR maybe too many would have had respiratory problems and could not live or live with it. Simply NOT sustainable!

I am like number 847

In that time there was plenty of jobs.

Remember kids, it's not a war on coal, it's coal's war on life.

@AdmiralJT

Ай бұрын

Yeah instead of improving scrubbing and disposal while innovating ways to be more green its totally better to completely be out of a job and not use a natural resource that is cheap and abundant.

@user-dj7wv5ok2x

Ай бұрын

There IS such a thing as the Karrick Low Temperature Carbonization process, where a gas richer than natural gas, as well as gasoline, fuel oils, and even a smokeless char can be produced. Google it!

New York is the dump

@user-dj7wv5ok2x

Ай бұрын

And where YOU live is supposed to be better?!

2:20. Society is so messed up we have to blur a drawing of cavewoman boobs.

Drawn out and too long. Great subject, but way too long. Why so long?

Watch the movie my man Godfrey, William Powell it literally opens making references to ash piles , then later repurposed ash piles