For your information, grounded compressors can also cause the condenser fan motor to run lower speed because it back feeds thru the compressor when not running.

@PaintSlinger99

10 ай бұрын

exactly

Those drains 😂

That drain line connection made me laugh out loud when i seen that. I knew instantly they hooked to the wrong taps for the drain. I guess that manual that comes with it is only visible to a tech. Another great video Rick.....save the day......again.

Nothing runs you over like a Trane! (I wish I could take credit for that, but I can't...)

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

I love that😂👍👍

What I like to do when brazing in a new compressor is that if I can't purge whilst brazing then at least I try to push the air out with some nitrogen so that when I braze there's only minimum air left inside the circuit.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's what I should have done. I screwed up

If nitrogen were expensive, I could understand why more people would do the wrong thing and not use it. However, nitrogen in general is cheap! I keep three tanks in rotation so I will always have nitrogen available during the busy months.

Wow un-freaking-believable!!!

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

🤫😆😆

I have become convinced that 90% of labor for a new install was standing in front of a Home Depot that morning.

A former manager once told us : it's a brand new unit it doesn't just break down ! Sure thing buddy 😂

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Bingo 🤫👍👍

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

Well, I'm sure installing it wrong didn't help, nor not using nitrogen as you saw. But yeah.

Installed by only the best, your local Trane Comfort Specialist!!!

I said OMG when I saw the drains. Wow!

Because the capacitor was so hot to the touch when the bad compressor was hooked up, I would have replaced it even though it still worked. Heat is bad for caps, and the heat probably weakened it. It's a cheap part so I would have swapped it for piece of mind.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Good point 👍👍

Edit: I posted this before you pulled the drawing. : I have that same indoor unit in my house. That drain the hooked up is for a vertical install, the lower drain that they didn’t connect to is for a horizontal install. 😮 I could have don’t a better install and I just watch KZread videos.

Just because it's new doesn't mean it's not broken.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

😆😂👍👍

@nathang.1744

Жыл бұрын

Just because it’s old dosent mean it’s broken

@Ghq374

Жыл бұрын

Because it’s new u should be more concerned, the new stuff suck.

@mtsaz100

Жыл бұрын

Trane has a problem with DOA equipment. I have installed Trane for 35 years and never seen the number of DOA's that I have in the past 2 years.

I am technically trained and oriented, but I never understand more than one item out of 20 in your presentations. A lot of specialized knowledge needed. Good going.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

😊👍👍. You will eventually.

You are the master of multitasking. I've watched multiple videos of yours where you are working on more than one unit at the same time. It's fun trying to keep up with you. Thanks teacher.

@HVACRSurvival

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate your feedback! Thanks for watching them!

Came across a Carrier air handler one time installed counterflow but the slab coil was still in the upflow configuration…coil should have been flipped with an accessory drain pan installed. Unit had been working for several days and the condensate dripped through the control box and strip heaters and filled the ductwork underneath. I was amazed to see water dripping off the wires and relays in the control box yet the unit was still running! Good work.

Great work rick on this messy installation

I don’t need the work bad enough to work on the competition’s qwappy installs. Hang a wet towel over your 410a recovery jug to cool it off a little bit or ice water over it helps to. Install a suction drier on all compressor changeouts, if room allows.

At 2:21 the most common mistake AC installers make. Improper trap venting. plumbing 101 the back side of the trap is vented. That $1.00 mistake is the main reason many customer's ceilings fall in. It's amazing over 90% of HVAC guys don't understand Venting basics, especially when Venting is the V in HVAC

I don't understand why fellow technicians don't like Trane. Can only speak to the residential side but they have easily accessible documentation along with Mitsubishi.

@brandonbowden1262

Жыл бұрын

As a fellow HVAC tech. I dislike them mostly because if quality control issues, OEM specific parts that they don’t have. They will with a straight face tell you we don’t have any and don’t know when we will have some. 😮 what??? That’s residential and commercial including 300 ton chillers that are right out of the factory

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

Trane is like the apple of the industry - let's do things our own way and proprietary. Some things I like, others are just.....why? That air handler is just terrible.

@TheAMVLOST

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonbowden1262 What air conditioners do you recommend?

My Trane Weathertron is 32 years old. Only ever changed the blower motor.. I will never replace that unit with a new one. Never. I’ll just keep patching it up if it ever breaks.

Hey Hoss I can’t believe the drains man . All ways enjoy your work you da man have a Great Week Hoss

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the support 🤜🤛👍👍🍺🍺

It’s hard to start a trane 😂 it’s honestly better to just start installing Goodman/daikin. Same quality but lower price

Suspect it was factory terminated wrong and running backwards. The fan spinning means it grounded out and was feeding from the other leg through the ground fault.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

I should have checked the resistance to ground but it was bad either way so I skipped it. Good call 👍👍

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if that fault only happened after it locked up. Sounded at least at first to be a mechanical failure, not a grounded one.

I Love this Guy!,,, Great stuff. Coastal Nc,,Blackbeard Country,,,Saltyville Hurricane Alley. Shot Coils galore. Job security. Luv ur style and narrating.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Thanks brother, some people get my personality others don't. Their loss 😂🤙

👍💪🇺🇲🙏❄️ great work n thanks for taking the time to share ur experiences.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Love the music starts straight CRANKIN when the torch is lit LOL. LEzzzzzzzz Gooooooooo

Thanks for another great video Rick. I will be leaning on them heavy soon with my new position.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome, it took longer than normal to cut it down that's why it was so late today.

@fshn76

Жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival No explanation needed man!

I didn’t realize we needed more condensers to look like mini splits. On the other hand that could’ve been at the bottom of a 48” tall condenser coil 😅

@msmith3537

Жыл бұрын

Designed for zero lot lines.

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I mean, pick your poison. Those old Ruud units had the right idea.

the drains were redone at the 20:20 mark and they cut the new drains in below the traps and straight piped lol. now they arent trapped at all.

very cool two headed torch!

Great job

Great work IMO !!

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ted! 🙏

I just went on site where someone did a beautiful job of installing 3, multi zone mini splits with casettes, wall units and about 4 slim ducts. Too bad the slim ducts were upside down. That was a lot of work to fix that- they had to be disconnected completely, all duct work, plenums, and rehung and then the lines were too short, the wire was too short, the duct work didn't reach in some cases, and luckily they worked when they were installed right. I was worried they would be toast- but they worked.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a lot of fun 🤦🏻💰💰

Nice work Rick.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Smooth spray with those bottles heads

Yo, like the vids man, like to see ya work on a xr16, keep up the good work!

Love my 557s 👍🏼

Great content thanks 🙏 you 😊

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I'm glad you're liking it👍👍

We had lot of issues with trane's roof top units recently

@erickwardwell962

Жыл бұрын

New ones? I'd expect that with there "through the floor" production standards these days. There RTU'S are back ordered through next year. They haven't been right since the rona.

@goldfinch1384

Жыл бұрын

@@erickwardwell962 yes new ones

Always use Nitrogen 🙂. You don't have to keep the purge running the whole time. Just purge, turn it off and braze the compressor in.

@2centsbear638

Жыл бұрын

I've seen guys keep a light flow of nitrogen after purging with it to prevent oxygen from getting inside while brazing. My teacher says the same too. I would imagine oxygen wouldn't go in if you kept your hose connected to prevent natural airflow, but who knows

Good job

Anyone with a molecule of common sense should've known how those drains were to be installed! Unreal!!!

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

👍👍

What a bonehead thing to do,run those drains like that...😂😂😂😂 Strong unsupervised apprentice vibes.

Used to be a Testo guy, got SM480 never looked back.

Good job Rick, You got good luck when it comes to good tools, but you have bad luck when it comes to fixing other peoples installs or repairs, I mean you fix the problem, but you always have to poke the bear to find out what the problem is, as always good job Rick, And how is Clayton doing? Your old apprentice, do you keep in touch?

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

We talk about everyday. He's doing great!

i would’ve loved to see what killed that compressor

That brazing torch is sick.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

👍👍 it takes a little to learn it but when you do it makes it easy.

@I_SuperHiro_I

Жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival I just ordered one. Don’t encounter brazed copper or aluminum lines too often working on our analytical science equipment since it’s mostly 316 stainless, or nickel plated, but it’s too cool not to have one lol.

WELCOME TO WORKING IN AUSTRALIA where all you best products come from thailand

those drains. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It wasn't hard to stop that Trane! 😂

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

😆👍👍

I use the same brazing tip for small copper. I helped a guy install two evaporators on a blast chiller at Kroger, I had about eight brazes. He goes what in the hell is that? I said take out your phone and start your timer. I did them all in under 30 seconds, shit looked like it was done at the factory. I wish they made a tip like that for mapp gas.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

I've been happy with it👍👍

So basically, you redid about fifty percent of the job?

What do you think about the new Milwaukee vacuum pump?

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

I haven't had a chance to see it in action yet. Wouldn't be surprised if it's not made by the same company that makes the Makita

Remember when it was actually hard to stop a trane?

The compressor is just free wheeling. The clutch is broken, and the rotary scroll is not turning to compress the refrigerant. I wonder if it was over charged, and it slugged and damaged the compressor. The scroll compressors are not immune to liquid slugging. I have seen many damaged due to over charging.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Factory charge was 5 lb I only pulled out 4.4.

I love the torch set up you have, can you ( or someone) recommend this setup for me? I have a “turbo torch” with an acetylene tank, it works but it’s kinda wild sometimes. Thanks

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

It's just a regular oxy acetylene torch set. If you want to get the whole set so that everything fits easily together I would go with the uni-weld brand. Originally this was a Victor but I had to change the handle to make the tips fit

Hello Rick, I'm need some Schrader valves on my r-22 ac, would they be 1/4", I have a core tool, using brass cap now but sniffer shows leaky on low side. Going to order usa bestec ones just making sure 1/4" 20 yr old heil ICP HP, Thank you.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

They're the same thing they use in your car tire. I'm not sure what the real size is. They are all the same Schrader core for both the 1/4 and 5/16 systems.

Why all service tech always complain about their work, we installers get constantly f upped by the sales people and yet we tend to make it work until the service guy shows up to ruin the day.

@jasonjohnsonHVAC

Жыл бұрын

Because installers have a blueprint....its called a manual.....and yall still mess things up. If you let the salesman dictate how your installation is gonna go.....you are doomed and destined for failures. You as installers are the people who should be following proper practices.....let the salesman get yelled at for not knowing what they are doing. A callback costs a company a lot of money. At the least....let your manager know that the salesman screwed up...what should i do....get it off your plate....and into the gands of the person who made the s**t sandwich in the first place.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

@altyndom7039 why do we like to complain? Are you serious? You go out to a job that was supposed to be installed correctly and the people that installed it were paid to do it correctly and I should be cheerful and excited to redo the job the correct way? That makes absolutely no sense. I'm not a robot and I actually think for myself which is why I get upset because this was a waste of time. Common Sense tells you the drains are going to be at the lowest point. 🤦🏻

"Professional" HVAC installers, keeping shops like your in business since 1914.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

👍👍😂

I think they're actually Mitsubishi trying to put your name on it

I’m sure by now you have seen the Trane S series gas furnace, loads of stupidity in that design. The big thing is it’s a 33” tall furnace, but the way the blower compartment is designed your return opening is something like 15x16, if you are over 3 tons or a certain BTU of heat you require a furnace support box which if you use the Trane box brings you right back to 40” tall 🤦‍♂️

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense if you don't think about it 😂👍👍

@georgemunford3804

Жыл бұрын

I've been working on mostly trane for 23 years They come up with really brilliant stupid changes regularly

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALLED UNICRON BRAZING TIP

@HVACRSurvival

6 ай бұрын

😂👍👍

*Wow that bastard was freewheeling inside!* 😮

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Yep 👍👍

Its PROBLEMS---(FYI)--not promblems. I replace a lot of units every year---at least 50. And- Trane often has no inventory so I have had to use in some cases what I could get- ICP, Rheem/RUUD, goodman, whatever. Of all- I have had the MOST problems with trane---when I say problem, I mean leaks, no freon due to a bad joint and it leaked out, wiring issues, and so on- right out of the gate. They are really good about reimbursing you 400$, but of all the units, I had one Rheem that had a problem, and about 4 Tranes. No other issues with anything else. Not even mini splits. HAving said that- this is a case where someone said "I have a great AC Guy" because he came out and changed a capacitor for 100$, and so that made him great. He is obviously clueless and has no business working on his own. I ran into a guy recently who contacted me for help when he was installing a condenser and had some problems. I asked him when I could tell he was in way over his head, "what are you charging for this"----ANSWER: 150$. so there are a whole bunch of people who think they are "ready" and know everything, and then get into big trouble as in the case of this install. Great video for several reasons---one of which exposes the guys who just are not ready to be on their own and also issues with new Trane products of late.

Which torch tip is that?

A professional diagnostic and repair . Rick what tool bag are you using.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Veto MB3 regular bottom. Does good, I got it free with my backpack the MC version.

I’ve just come across your videos and I only watch you and HVACR Videos now. Can I ask why you hate Trane? We have package units at our facility and though OEM parts are tough to get and expensive, I’ve been liking the unit’s dependability

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind the commercial units now that I'm getting more time on them. Thanks for checking out my videos!

1st class 👍👍👍👀🇺🇸

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

🤜🤛👍👍

I wish I could do my apprenticeship workin with you

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

If you're in Ohio we could possibly make that happen.

Is there info or a link for the yellow pocket temperature probe at 11:31? Thanks.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

amzn.to/3Jh2qH6

Great infomercial Rick ... Your a good salesperson Thx as always ...

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Definitely need to use nitrogen. Inside of that copper is completely trashed without it. Basically looks just like the outside does after brazing, with some charred oil to boot.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

I agree... that's why I use it everywhere else, I should have purged through the compressor first. It really doesn't matter how good I do there's always someone going to find something wrong.

@JohnChuprun

Жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival I wasn't harping on you, just agreeing with your comment that it seems the whole install might have been done without nitrogen. And that people often underestimate the importance of it during commissioning. At this point, you not using nitrogen for those repair 2 joints isn't really changing anything (that oil was already full of soot and particles that ejected).

@mtsaz100

Жыл бұрын

but only where you braze- and depending on where- you can flush it out with water, solvent, followed by nitrogen and pumping it down.. I always do a flush regardless of whether I braze with nitrogen or not. 99% of the time I do, but if you can't for some reason- flush it with solvent or whatever and nitrogen and its fine. Its when you do nothing that you run into problems---It doesn't matter what the inside of the tube looks like- the problem is that stuff comes off like a powder and will clog up the expansion valve---esp the electroninc ones. So--make sure you use nitrogen, and if that isn't possible---flush after brazing.

Nice drains😂

And they say, It's hard to stop a Trane 😂

Why did you put a red climetuf scroll

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Because that's what Trane gave us... I have no idea why they changed the color 🤷. I'm not a Trane dealer. This is what the damn architect wanted installed.

@araselitovar1791

Жыл бұрын

Ok and the compressor wasn't sounding so good when you pushed the compressor contactor

I have a good question for you mind you ...the unit is already dead but curiosity is nagging me. 4 ton r410 non heat pump. Ran EXCELLENT for 3 years in the worst of Texas heat and would cool the house down to the low 60s if you wanted. The downside....the unit sounded like it had rocks in it....I mean it was loud. Pressures tested great. It died the other day but I was just wondering what it could have been

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

If the compressor is not in warranty cut it open and find out would be the best way. Otherwise the factory would have asked for all the important information not just pressures. Oat, indoor air temp, amp draw, voltage, superheat, sub cooling, verify wiring was correct, checking the resistance of the windings, meg the compressor to ground.

Hi Morgan booth

You just complained about not using Nitrogen when brazing and right before that you brazed the compressor without it...........IM CONFUSED

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

What I was getting at is sometimes you create more problems than what you're saving. There's a difference between doing a two braze joint repair versus running a line set with multiple joints being brazed. Plus the amount of heat you put on the joint also dictates how much carbon you get. If you looked at that coupling I showed in the beginning that thing was dark black they overheated it extremely. To make the video short I cut all that information out.

@SubStationSparky

Жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival I gotcha bud. You really know your stuff. Funny how BAD some installs are. I’m an electrician by trade but I geek out on the ductless. I installed my 6 zone system at my house a couple years back. 6 zones 24 flares and not one leak. I installed everything to spec. Recorded extra line set length and had a guy pressure test, evacuate and add 410A where necessary. They are the future. I always recommend them to anyone who’s looking it switch away from fuel.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

@@SubStationSparky The reason why you don't have problems is because you cared... most people don't give a shit and their work shows it. Electricians usually have a sense of pride in their work. If there really electricians and not wire pullers 😊. Thanks for sharing! 👍👍🤜🤛

Hello! Why do you need a station with four valves if you vacuum correctly through a separate hose?

@HVACRSurvival

4 ай бұрын

I use to have the older Testo 557 and 550. The 550 were bad about resetting themselves back to zero and atmospheric pressure changes. So instead of taking a chance, I got the Testo 557 even though I seldomly ever used the fourth hose. Good question.

@SergeUnburnt

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for responding! You are an expert! I am also a refrigeration engineer. There is also a Testo 550s station, with wireless thermal probes, it has two valves. So I'm thinking, which one to buy 550s or 557s? Is vacuuming much faster on the line than through the station? If it is much faster, then four valves are not needed, so it turns out.@@HVACRSurvival

@HVACRSurvival

4 ай бұрын

I did a video testing out my blue hoses at least two years back and it’s tremendously faster. That’s why I don’t usually pull through my manifold. I have the older 550s and they work OK but I don’t like them as well as the newer 557.

@SergeUnburnt

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! The new 550s does not differ from the 557s, only in the number of valves. Or am I wrong?@@HVACRSurvival

very funny on drain

Mitsubishi and trane same company now.

Where did you find that compressor handle?

@HVACRSurvival

5 ай бұрын

I built it.

@MikeF1189

5 ай бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival I sure would like to get a better view of that thing, so I can make one.

@HVACRSurvival

5 ай бұрын

It’s made out of about an inch diameter stainless steel tubing, cut into a 45 made into an angle then a piece of flat stock stainless steel made into a sea shape. Then it’s welded together. Email me and I’ll send you some pictures HVACRsurvival@Gmail.

I didn’t know you could defy the laws of physics, shit still flows downhill correct? Lol

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Yep! #1 water rings down hill ..#2 Payday's on Friday and #3 the boss is an ahole. The key things to remember😅

@liam3284

Жыл бұрын

m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYeJspNwY83MgZs.html

Kinda curious what the inside of that dead compressor looks like.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

Warranty so I can't cut it apart. 👍👍

Probably made by Midea, if not Made by Gree

I was hoping that compressor didn’t blow the terminals on you that would have sucked

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

It would have been a real scream 😆😲👍👍

@davidperry4013

Жыл бұрын

One of my parents’ 1993 Trane XE1000 compressor blew out the terminals when it was 20 years old and they replaced the condense unit. It lived a good life.

I lost count the number of bleeping noises in the video. When in doubt pull the manual out and read it.

I’ve actually never worked on that specific Condenser

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

It's just a basic AC from what I seen.

@jasonjohnsonHVAC

Жыл бұрын

Side discharge style unit. No different than a standard condenser.

@joshuaricks7730

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I’m aware, I guess I’m only saying that because I work for Trane.

It’s hard to start a Trane.

It's funny how customers can't believe that something new can have issues, like humans aren't the one's putting these together. Especially if they buy the most expensive product available. It cost blsh blah blah dollars it shouldn't break. Then we tell them we'll this more experience product has more chances to break especially since some oof the components are new technology.

What air conditioners do you recommend?

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

The problem is people don't care, so it really doesn't matter as much on who makes it....but the brand we sell is Carrier, generally, they're pretty good, but they're not perfect. Reems OK, all of them have their good models and they're crappy models. it's really a shot in the dark. It depends on the model level that you're looking at, they make good better and best or basically you could think of it as good enough, probably will work and probably not gonna work.

Why isn't the company that put it in fixing it?

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

🤷

👍👍👍

Wow, who ever installed those

Rick is it wrong to say I like your tip?

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 from KZread land it's ok, in person NO😆

What’s the deal with Trane compressors? It looks exactly like a copeland scroll, did they pay Emerson to be able to make them on their own or something? Just curious 🧐

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

I'm not a Trane guy not sure, it's made by someone other than Copeland, there are several company's making scrolls that work but this one didn't😲😆

@seangriffon6502

Жыл бұрын

I cant remember the name of the compressor off hand, but its made in Louisana. I feel they are junk. What happened to the Climatuff compressors? Just popped into my head. Alliance compressor in Louisana.

@davebigdog

Жыл бұрын

Trane and Copeland actually developed the scroll compressor together Not sure about resident but Trane manufacturer their own compressors on the commercial side

@davebigdog

Жыл бұрын

​@@seangriffon6502climatuff had to go away due to efficiency that the government has put in place

@davebigdog

Жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival based on the installation And undercharged of the other units The failure was most likely due to the crappy install

Out of town installers, probably un-documented

Newbie here, why is it ok to braze the compressor without nitrogen?

@amarillohomebrewing4602

Жыл бұрын

I would purge with nitrogen to displace the oxygen and kill the nitrogen purge and have my gauges open to atmosphere. I would then braze the joints. Any residual nitrogen would warm and expand. No oxygenation would happen. Keeping nitrogen running would blow your weld out and you would have to reweld the joint. How do I know, been there.

@HVACRSurvival

Жыл бұрын

@Johnny you could Purge it with nitrogen then kill it just like amarillohome said. When you get in the real world and start running calls you're going to find out almost half the people don't even run nitrogen if not probably 75% of them. Most of the people on KZread are some of the very few that actually care about what they're doing, generally most people you work with aren't going to give a shit about doing things the right way they're just there for a paycheck and want to go home.

@gordonborsboom7460

Жыл бұрын

Cannot flow nitrogen through the compressor, so you do it the way it was done here to avoid the blowout described here