Installing RunTru By TRANE Split System | Would I RECOMMEND Them??
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In this video I show my process on removing the existing Ruud heat pump split unit and installing a new 3 ton RunTru heat pump split air conditioner. On this job I reused the existing refrigerant lines, so I flushed them R11x and purged with nitrogen. This is my first time installing this new product line made by Trane. I'll go a few things that I like about the product as well as a few things that I don't. Hope you enjoy the video, happy HVACing.
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Zach another outstanding job. I like how meticulous you are on your jobs. You're a class act. Thanks again for another great video.
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Thx Anthony! That’s means a lot. I really appreciate your feedback.
@CryptoAbe
4 жыл бұрын
Someone call the county Inspector. Most likely he did not pull a permit for that installment, as there is no way in hell that outdoor unit will pass to code. Or he failed it, then he did not list a video going back for being a idiot.
@HVACToolReview
4 жыл бұрын
😂 call the county inspector? Quality HVACR must be a competitor in your area.
@john7017
4 жыл бұрын
@@CryptoAbe Never run line and low voltage wire in the same raceway or conduit!
@CryptoAbe
4 жыл бұрын
@@HVACToolReview lmao no. Sent Video to Tennessee contractors board with license number 70694. I hope he pulled a permit cause that is evidence....
*Used to supplement the up stairs when it gets hot outside this works very well and **Fastly.Cool** Also works good when the upstairs gets too hot in the Winter from the heater.*
3:31 The fart was epic!
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@FletcherRSmith
4 жыл бұрын
I wondered if I just imagined I heard that or it actually happened? 🤣🤣🤣
@davidlindgren7605
4 жыл бұрын
@@FletcherRSmith I thought the same thing, but the replay confirmed it! hahahaha!~
@Chele156
4 жыл бұрын
Even his farts are EPA APPROVED 👍
@watchinit6530
4 жыл бұрын
@@Chele156 , Your comment was hilarious 🤣.
Great job. Clean and professional. The only thing I would have done differently is installed the condenser 12" to 18" away from the house to make it easier to work on and have better air flow available to condenser coil.
@usahoangsatruongsa
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly ! However he did a good job on installation.
Unit is too close to the wall! Never run line and low voltage wire in the same raceway!
@shellshocker4856
4 жыл бұрын
This is a response to my response I didn't notice your statement until after I read the comments but we are on the same page with the low voltage and high voltage being adjacent
@roberthudanish7405
4 жыл бұрын
way too close. although i wouldn't do it, you can run different voltage wires in the same conduit provided the wire sheathing have the same rating.
@TheTruth420
4 жыл бұрын
It is to close to the house. Not hating on you. Not only is it restricting the coil, you made it difficult to service. And thats bs that they only put enough in for ten foot of line set.
@justinwhite3153
4 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it
@GB-ue6wr
4 жыл бұрын
This man does nice work, but I agree with both comments above..unit was too close and usually you don’t want to mix voltages in the same conduit.
Absolute masterclass work and ethic man! Very inspiring. The only thing I’m disappointed in is my self for not finding your channel sooner! Keep the videos coming.
In Florida, minimum of 12 inches from wall. They do sell smaller valve core tools to remove stems. I always install service panel away from wall for easier access. Great job either way.
I did HVAC for 30+ years you are a good mechanic... excellent job...
I admire how clean/neat you are with your work. I think that looks are very important, considering a customer spends thousands of dollars, and they don't know HVAC & all they do is see a system, neatness is what they are gonna see first.
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Well said. In my mind, a neat job means attention to detail, which means equipment longevity.
Black & Decker has done a good job on cooling a small area with this handy unit...I use this in a loft area all summer for good cool without the inconvenience of installing and blocking a window. Love it!
Besides Class 2 cable in same conduit as high voltage, clearance of condenser, and crimping suction line inlet so you can use existing 3/4" versus running new 7/8... It was clean and thanks for posting. I appreciate it ! Thanks.
@Clamjammer
4 жыл бұрын
Hahah botch job...oh you forgot the lack of a vent tee after the trap on an air handler that draws air through the coil
@cwindsor8585
4 жыл бұрын
@@Clamjammer why would you put a vent tee after the p trap the p trap makes it so you dont need one
@reginaldpeacock726
3 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only person that caught the crimp
I like that return box idea a lot. Great, clean work man
Looks too close to wall, outside unit
@aquattadomdren6760
3 жыл бұрын
No, the previous outdoor unit was too close. There's at least 6" on the new one if you look at the scale of things in the video when he's vaccing down. Most paperwork allows 1 side to be 6" if the rest are 12".
@stephencollins542
3 жыл бұрын
@@aquattadomdren6760 I mean to me I think that's a little close man. It makes everything a little bit more difficult to access. Its so easy to service a unit with space. Especially when you have room like that.
@aquattadomdren6760
3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Collins oh believe me man, I always give myself more room when I can. I’m not justifying the decision here since it doesn’t look to me like their are property line issues or anything like that otherwise. I’m just saying that it is fine per manufacturer’s specs. I definitely agree it’s a lot more conducive to work on when you have more room.
Great install man looked beautiful. Really digging the channel keep it coming brother.
Super dope man! You did an outstanding job all by yourself. You make it look so easy. I remember when I first started I was with a group of 3 and boy did we struggle.
Great job my man. I'm also a one man show for 31 years now in business for myself. Started in HVAC at age 18 and now almost 57 now. Starting to burn out and body breaking down lol. I may start to sub out all my HVAC installs and just concentrate on sales and service. Take some advice if you have some tough jobs that are a two man job find a helper for the day. I installed so many HVAC systems by myself that I should have hired a helper at least for a day or two. Also look into buying or leasing a walking electric hand truck for jobs with lots of steps. Keep up the great work man. Peace \m/\m/...
@chrisv5386
4 жыл бұрын
coolmandude1000 I want to get into HVAC do you recommend honestly?
@Germ1993
4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisv5386 I do! Long hours but very rewarding. Every day is different
@chreas7824
4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the company
Hey brotha , I'm going to start calling u Mr. Clean😁. Work looks great. May God bless your business. 💪
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Haha! 🤣 Thx I really appreciate it!
Half way through video while writing this...I usually do brazing first and leave vacuum running while I wire, connect, level and seal everything. Personal preference. Great stuff though, Nothing like a 1-person change out 😎!
I love how neat and complete you work.
Like your clean installs, make it easier for future servicing work. Would recommend when fitting the condensate pipe into pump body to cut a 45 degree angle at the end to reduce possibility of blockage by sludge accumulation.
Great video! Good job solo! Sometimes I wish I could be lol. We just installed our first RunTru beginning of last week. I liked AmeriStar but had a lot of problems out of defrost board. On the liquid line shrader valve, I didnt have any problem removing the valve before I soldered, which helps to check and tighten it when you put it back in. But if you can't, try bending the brass fitting or take the screws out holding it to the frame and pull it out for more room.
Great job man! Great Installation! Got to take pride in your work!
We actually going to start installing those over here in Texas. Thanks for the video.
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Right on! Let me know how it goes.
man that was a very nice install awesome quality job about the core I was in the same position few months ago that make so mad but you learn from that
Great video - really thorough and to the point!
Awesome install my man! Great job and attention to detail clean work! 💯
You always impress me with your training videos.
Thanks for your video. Good insight to the new line of equipment.
Thank you for the most unexpected laugh of 2020 with the fart😂😂
@QualityHVACR
3 жыл бұрын
😁
The condenser is way too close to the wall. The installer's guide mentions the following: Position the outdoor unit a minimum of 12” from any wall or surrounding shrubbery to ensure adequate airflow.
@sporttiger1766
4 жыл бұрын
Im no HVAC tech, but this seems obvious to me. not sure why you would put it that close when you have a clean open space to work with.
@leelee287
4 жыл бұрын
12 " on three sides. And 6" on the last side on most if not all brands or condensers
@robertmerlo6448
4 жыл бұрын
Jeff, that was my thought exactly. I've struggled w/ tight openings before, & have even had to use my inspection mirror to check connections! That's a recipe for future problems.
@Froggability
3 жыл бұрын
Kill the shrubs. They grow and the leaves /snails / Cockroaches are a disaster waiting to happen
@aquattadomdren6760
3 жыл бұрын
Keep on reading. 12" on 3 sides, and 6" on one pretty standard now. Doesn't mean I'll ever agree to put it closer if I don't have to though.
Hey Zac, great video and great information. Thanks for answering the phone too.
You make great videos! You are a true tradesman and take great pride in your work, I can tell. Great job and keep up the great work! I would want to work with you on any job you take the time to do it right!
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
That’s very kind of you to say! I really appreciate that.
Great quality. Loved the epic rock in the beginning man. I’ve been seriously considering the electrical trade for some time. Might’ve just found a good group of HVACrs to sign up with and finally get out of my transitional job. Wish me luck!
First time viewer just wanted to say nice clean work and you now have a new subscriber
Seriously .... Excelent Channel, your strong for the work is very inspirational, i'm an One Man Company too, i'm a IT contractor, and i´m a network installer. Your channel helps me. You teachme a lot with your dedication and entusiasm. Sorry for my awful english
Those old pancake outdoor units were built very well. I still see them operating after 25 + years.
Yes sir, trane is in Georgia, few minutes away from metter ga, Great job, perfect and very clean work,
You guys in the midwest and east coast have it easy on replacements. Here in California most furnaces are in 20-24" closets. Good work on video
I just installed a run true for the first time 2 weeks ago and the unit did not come pre charged I just wanted to know if that happened to you. I had to charge all the refrigerant into it. Unit still work perfectly fine and there were no leaks but it just did it come charged which was weird.
Thanks a lot. Just had a 2.5 ton unit (RunTru) installed. Seems to be pretty nice so far. SOOO much quieter than my old 2004 unit was. I'm hoping to see some savings on the electric bill, too, as the old unit hasn't functioned well for years! Air inside is a LOT colder coming out of the vents. They paired it with a RunTru airhandler/heater.
@DR-um2bv
2 ай бұрын
So you still like it , how do it hold up in winter
@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup
2 ай бұрын
@@DR-um2bv Great so far.
Good stuff man😎🤙 you’re quite neat! Good videos I learn from small details like such to be a better service tech myself
I hope you can help me. I have a run tru heat pump system and the defrost sensor was laying in the bottom of the unit with a clamp on it. Would you know where it is suppose to clamp at?
What are the best gloves to wear for hvac I did a job the other day on a residential home, I was checking the low and high pressure I guess I wasn’t fast enough to put on the gauges it took me 2 times but the Freon was shooting out and it left me some good size blisters the next day...I was wondering if u can recommend a good pair...
Is the outdoor AC unit to close to the house? Will it be better for the unit to be about 4 more inch away from the wall? So in the future when you have to work on the AC you will have more room to work? Also what is the standard width away for unit and home, if there is.
I just bought (May 2021) a Trane Heat Pump Electric and can't believe how loud mine is, I had 2 Tranes before which were great. I like the flat piece you put under the outside unit. Mine was installed with 4 cheap cup looking deals at each corner. I was not impressed and have been treated fine, but they cannot get rid of the loudness except an idea of covering the suspected reason, I believe he said the compressor It was the part beneath the fan motor. I don't want a cover up, I want a fix.
Nice video, thanks for sharing! Only thing I do differently is braze the equipment up first before electrical and ductwork. That way I can get a vacuum going and do the rest while the vacuum pump is running. I think the RunTru equipment looks good but you're right the service port on the liquid line is in a horrible spot. They need to fix that. Nice clean install bro
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Yea that’s a good idea. Luckily with my evacuation set up, it doesn’t take very long. Thx for the feedback!
Hey just following up if you have any update on if the Run Tru AC/Furnace are still working well?
Thanks for making this video . It was interesting to watch .
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
Know exactly how u feel. I once had to do an install on my own and was all done ready to leave by 4:00.............. compressor was dead on arrival. 😓
Our existing Trane furnace is 24 years old and the outside AC unit is 20. We are looking to replace with either Trane or Run Tru units. The house is 2800 sq ft. The proposals for upgrading to Tranes 2 stage 96% units and a 4 ton 13 seer AC are in the $7500 - $7800 price range. The Run Tru is $5000. but I'm concerned that the Run Tru is a budget unit and we'll have quality issues and the units won't last. What should I do?????? Thanks in advance.
I dont know if you carry those valve caps that have the sharder core removal on the top.of the cap I always carry those in if I run into that tight situation
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
That only works when there’s not refrigerant in the system. I was able to remove the core with a normal core remover but not with a tool is designed to remove the core when it’s under pressure.
@PerchServices
3 жыл бұрын
@@QualityHVACR I've run into that on some older units. Watching your videos and thinking. What if you just put a swivel tee on the service port and just left it? I know it's not ideal but it would work I think. Sucks they engineers didn't leave room. Like your videos and keep up the great work. Take care.
Nice work brotha!! She looks pretty. Good to see techs taking pride in their work. New sub 🤘🇺🇸 keep em rockin
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Thx Jimmy! I really appreciate your support.
I don't know if I was seeing things or what but looked like that squirrel cage housing was all blown out. Whats up with that?
For the Schrader core removal tool, does that bottom panel come off under the electrical cabinet?
I have a mini split that is less than 7 months old. The board has gone out with a brown spot in the middle of it. It is a RunTru system. it has been out for 3 1/2 months now.. The installer tells us that no one in the United States has parts for this system. Is there any place we can get a new board for this system?
Is it normal to run low and high voltage together there? Normally I thought you keep them separate as much as possible
Hey Zach once again outstanding installation! The unit seems very nice, definitely a few flaws but other than that its not bad at all
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I’ll definitely give it another shot. Thx for watching!
Just curious. So many tech installs put condenser right up against the wall. Is there a good reason why it has to be this way? Kinda pain when it comes to servicing them.
Curious to know if the soft start feature is part of factory install, or if you installed it as an extra?
My Inspectors would have my ass if I sleeved Hi and low voltage in the same conduit unless that thermostat wire was 600v rated.
@5822huron
3 жыл бұрын
Leave tstat wire out of seal tight
@alexpaic2984
3 жыл бұрын
Yup. They fuck over here in Florida to. Here you can’t ever run them inside the cabinet trough the same hole. Has to be 2 different penetrations but it actually makes sense.
@nikolas8845
3 жыл бұрын
In Oregon that wouldn't pass inspection at all. Low voltage and high voltage cannot be in the same conduit.
Very clean and professional work. Good job sir! Forgot to spray the basement with some scented air sanitizer.
Beautiful work brother!!
Great.clean install.. Seriously some great footage.! Zach .appreciate your time.and vdeo,.and brain fart when lifting that air handler.. Serious note.though....badass to this hvac industry--- Bryan Tyler Refrigeration Helotes,Tx
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Thx man! I really appreciate that! 🤓
Great Video, Sweet Install.
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Did you have to purge the old unit of refrigerant before you cut the high and low side pipes?
You should work on not using flex into the base can, layout the sheet metal so airflow is priority to keep your static pressures low.
Out of curiosity, where you live is there no minimum distance the condenser unit can be from the wall? For airflow and service clearance
I got runtru installed on Monday and the AC outside is leaking water throughout the day. I have read some articles where they say it happens when it’s really hot and humid but the past few days here in Toronto wasn’t horribly hot. Please help. I can even send photos.
Why did you instal the outside unit so close to the house like that?
I like the quality of your work great install, the only thing I noticed is the condenser unit is close to the wall. The 2nd think is you could start with brazing then your duct to save your self time. But man great job keep it up .
Come on man. That condensing unit is too close to the wall. I'm kinda glad you had a hard time with that schrader.
@mbmbmb23
3 жыл бұрын
If the unit was further from the wall there would have been slack in the liquid line and you could possibly unbolt the service valve and pull it out to get the shrader tool on it.
@aquattadomdren6760
3 жыл бұрын
Its not too close by manufacturer recommended clearances typically allowing 1 side to be 6" if the rest are 12". Personally, I think the more room the better if you don't have some other constraint you're dealing with, as I don't want to waste time messing around because things are so tight.
I would suggest picking up the Pipe Wiper system for cleaning linesets.
That's a very nice clean job! Still someone someday will open that up and shoulda done this or that this way etc.
Why not move the condenser away from the wall more for clearance? You do an amazing job. I really appreciate your love for the Hvac field.
@NewHVACGuide
3 жыл бұрын
beat me to it. Instructions say the clearances needed.
@joemaxfield93
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely should be atleast a foot off house fir proper usage
@youngjohn5076
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing . Too close to the wall
@hvactech5829
2 жыл бұрын
It supposed to be at least 3 ft away from the wall. Isn't it ?
@aaronsimon46
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! At least 10-12” away from wall but other then that your jobs always look great and professional!
You could possibly put a T fitting on the LL service valve before opening up the system for access to the schrader core as well. I’m not a huge fan of adding extra fittings but it’s a better option than recovering the charge on a Saturday night lol. Good video, thanks
Great video and job Zach. The reason the run tru has happened (FYI it’s everywhere not just Tennessee) Ameristar is owned by Ingersoll Rand not Trane. Ameristar was not Trane made (Except the gas furnace) it’s made in China. Trane cut ties with Ingersoll Rand at the 1st of the year. So they now make Run Tru with is made by Trane.
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that. I was told at Trane that the American Standard vendors would still carry Ameristar, I guess that makes sense now. Thx for the info John!
Just curious as to why you didnt run a complete new line set?
is that nitro or CO2 your using to test & blow down, here in nyc the black plastic handle on the tank means it CO2 oxygen/acetylene do you use nitro through the system when brazing just started watching ur channel show ur truck 1 day cause im thinking of going from van to a pickup
I sale American standard and Ameri Star. For several years now. I was a Ruud dealer before that. Really like the stars. They've been pretty much trouble free. Have installed gas packs, heat pump packs, split systems. Not sure what's going to happen in the near future for me. I installed two luxair ( Lennox) split HP just to see how I liked them. They seem fine and work well , but the condensers are Huge .
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve installed several brands over the years. Each brand doesn’t really show their faults until about a year or so later. We shall see what the future holds for RunTru.
All you SUPER KEYBOARD GANGSTER TECHNICIANS out there need to calm down... the man did a good job and is a good learning video for apprentices.... let’s see you guys take time to video your installs and see your work. This is the real world and not everything is ran 100% by the book. All of you techs already know this u just wanna sound smart
@truepatriot7132
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed Jimmy P. I have been reading the comments from all of the "Freon Leon" magnetic sign guys that think they know everything. These are the same guys that undersell good companies by thousands of dollars and ruin HVAC pricing. Good video though.
Unscrew the king valves next time to save yourself some time. Move that condenser unit away from the wall to allow easier service and proper airflow through outdoor coil.
@jimmyp5487
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Lopez ... service valves ... not king valves. I’m a refrigeration tech so don’t mind me we are all anal
@fathmasameer7523
4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyp5487 😂😂😂
@henrison
4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyp5487 i was lost went he wrote KING lmao
@HiddenResolve
4 жыл бұрын
I work on Lennox's all the time and have to deal with that. Luckily you can pop off the 2 screws holding the service valves and yank em out alittle to put a core tool on.
@Froggability
3 жыл бұрын
Hidden Resolve. True or remove valve core with a basic screwdriver style core remover and replace it at about 5 psi. Or lift the unit sit it on a brick to gain access
Our company is a Trane dealership, been using Ameristar haven’t seen the new brand yet. Looks like a decent unit. Great video. 👍
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Thx William! I feel like at its price point, it’s a great entry level machine.
I carry two Schrader tools, a typical shirt-pocket screwdriver style and a short stubby one from a bike schrader set from Wal-Mart that cost like $2.99, works great. It's about 3/4" of an inch long. Had prongs that came out of it but I whacked them off with my lineman's-- I'd recommend everyone carry a short schrader tool for that exact situation.
What's is your setup? I don't have a trailer yet, just a lift gate on a utility truck. Your package unit dolly?
Bro I think I heard someone else tooted/farted at time stamp 3:33 😂🤣 I thought I bring it up for laughs. Nevertheless you are inspiring as a technician. You are very detailed oriented and full of new ideas. Keep up the GREAT work my brother.
I'm installing a 5 ton heat pump runtru with emergency heat in my house. There are only three wires (red, green,blue) but I need five. Do I cut the pink and white wires and splice them together?
@cwindsor8585
4 жыл бұрын
If the unit doesn't use the cabinet as comment then you could even though I don't recommend this only in emergency situations use the copper as a wire
That run thru air handler looks IDENTICAL to a Trane TEM4 unit I just installed, Inside and out. Minus some extra controls and fan motor.
Yes and condenser is to close to home , anchor per windstorm code ??? Question on armor flex insulation on copper line 1/2 or 1 inch thick is code????
Help!! I have this HVAC unit and I am having a hard time locating the indoor unit air filter.
Great installation, Great music 🤘
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Thx! 🙏🏽
you can take the screw off thats holding the liquid service valve in place underneath the valve. That would give you some extra wiggle space to get your shredder tool in there, then replace it when its done. Also way to close to the wall there for future servicing. other then that super clean work good job !
Should've spun the condenser so service and ventilation would be better. Plus that flex supply main run IMO is ng. Did you level the pad before you tied the condenser in.?
Good job, on the install great video. Thanks.
Dumb question may been asked. But do you put a separate disconnect box for the air handler itself?
Does the unit have a micro channel coil, they are leakers?
Did you really crimp the suction line ?!
Disconnect box directly behind Heat Pump, against code, Way too close to house. Sucks for next service tech that has to work on this.
@b4804514
2 жыл бұрын
Good Call. I guess they don't have to pull a permit or have any inspections.
What is the name of the hole saw/knockout bit used @ 5:27 to create a hole in the side of the AHU?
Holy Smokes fantastic workmanship
@QualityHVACR
4 жыл бұрын
Thx! 🤓 I really appreciate that!!
@marcoferreira226
4 жыл бұрын
Im heading into 2nd year in hvac Im in Canada. I have been on construction building vrf systems but haven't done much service so watching vids help. If there is a chance to explain stuff like tips and what to watch out for that would be rad. Thanks again for the Vids
Put one of these in over the summer, they were quiet, cheap price, and overall a great budget a/c