The Walkinstown roundabout has 6 roads and 17 lanes

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

😲

Cheers mate

I test drove the new Highland Model 3 a few weeks ago. The gear shift on screen is no problem at all and indicator buttons were easy to get used to as well.

As someone who drives both M3 on a daily basis ( Highland and Pre-Highland ) I can only say it is really not an issue, the brain and muscle memory adapts to it very quickly. Funnily I never try to reach the stalks in the Highland but in the old one I often try to click the Buttons, which of course are not there 🙈

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Great to hear from an owner of both and very interesting to hear about the reach for the button!

@commuterbranchline8132

Ай бұрын

I managed a one hour test drive in a Tesla Model 3 2024 model without stalks. In that short time I did find myself fighting 36 years of muscle memory as I reached for those missing indicator stalks. It’s reassuring to read that adaptation happens quickly. Perhaps I’ll find out when my Cybertruck order arrives? 😂

First ! Like your work

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Thanks Daniel, I appreciate that you took the time to comment

This was really useful and I wish there were more reviews which do this sort of thing. My conclusion was to my surprise I could live with the button indicators. What I could not live with is the gear shift on the iPad which became clear when the five point turn was done. It is just ghastly. What may or may not have been intended was the camera view of the map where we could all see which exit was expected and when you took it. My overall impression is that if I am to pay this much for an EV I do not want an on the road iPad experience; I want to drive a car.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Thanks Paul. Appreciate the comment. Very livable with the buttons instead of indicators. The minimalist touchscreen is very much a choice to be made

@Mancozeb100

Ай бұрын

Yes, the on-screen gear shift looked horrendous - didn’t like that it took a definite effort to ensure that it was engaged. The flip back that it did on the first reverse shift (@8:50) would drive me nuts, especially if it had a habit of doing that frequently. Situation that comes to mind is when parking into a tight parking spot, when you need to shift quickly, esp. if you’re trying to get out of the way of following traffic. The indicators look like it’s just a case of getting used to them. Though - I still find it a faff when wanting to change the Regen level paddles on the Kia.. like, wanting more braking effort, and the paddles have moved around with the wheel. First world problems !!!

Evening mate

Nice one Derek. I'm looking at a 2021 Model 3 Long Range at the moment. Eager to go look at it next week, would be my first EV. If only I could bring you along to check it out for me 😊

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Private or dealer?

@johnjames01

Ай бұрын

@@NevoEVReviewIreland Dealer, in Dublin. LR and low ish mileage.

@johnjames01

Ай бұрын

I should have added more info, apologies! It's in black and with a dealer on JFK road. Seems a good deal at €32k.

Coming from a 2019 model 3 to a stalkless 2024 it took me about a month to 100% nail every roundabout type. I actually found it easier when driving on the left ( based in RHD country). This is a non issue, go ahead and buy it if considering, you will not regret it.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

I wondered if the side of the road made any difference. Thanks for the comment and great to hear from actual owners and not just the haters

I think a lot if it will depend on driving style. These days you're taught to keep arms clear of the steering wheel airbag, which is quite awkward to do in practice.

1. Get sexy buttons. 2. Set one button as a left indicator.Set the other one as a right indicator. 3. Place the buttons on the backside of your steering wheel exactly where the hands are positioned. 4. Use the Tesla buttons on the steering wheel when driving on the highway. Use the sexy buttons in roundabouts. 5. Enjoy the best of both worlds for an unmatched driving experience.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Nice idea!

In Australia, the indicator stalk is on the right (left is wipers), but now they've got the buttons on the left... I'm glad I don't have to adjust to this as a non-Tesla EV driver (Ioniq gang!)

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Which IONIQ? Thanks for the comment

@HuyTranimal

Ай бұрын

@@NevoEVReviewIreland 6. Not many around. Loving the car (but not loving all of the recalls...)

Steering wheel vertical and trying to press a little button is not ideal in any car

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Those who are driving with it don't seem to mind

I think Ferrari style indicator switches are a bit easier to use. With the two buttons on either side.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Oh yes! Good idea

@982ru

Ай бұрын

Wrong. In right hand drive countries you have some cars with stalk left from the steering wheel ( example EU, American cars) and some right from the steering wheel ( Japanese cars). For indicating left you push down on left stalk, but you push up on right stalk. So it's not about up is right or up is left. It's about pushing the stalk in the same ( clockwise, anticlockwise) direction as you'll be turning the steering wheel. The same is true for Tesla configuration ( you press the button in the same ( clockwise, anticlockwise) direction as you'll be turning the steering whell, wherever buttons might be. But it gets a lot more confusing whit buttons on left and right, once you get over certain threshold.

I'm speechless... At least when the steering is set to Standard or Sport, you can just keep your hand constantly in the same place, with thumb hovering on the indicator, while applying force with the other hand to steer. Neither hand changes position on the steering wheel at any point. That way you're constantly aware where to press / ready to press the indicator when needed. And it's safer compared to using stalks, since at no point are your hands leaving the steering wheel. The amount of tucking and changing hand positions you do on the video is just nuts.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

In your area are you not told to feed the wheel/keep your hands at 10 and 2?

Great video showing how they work in what would be the worst case scenarios. From my own experience with them I actually prefer this set up to stalks. A change I didn’t know I’d like so much

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

I am hearing very little complaints from those who have tried it!

Seems manageable, but not as easy as a stalk that you can just catch with a raised finger as you turn the wheel. It’s like Harley Davidson clinging on to having the left indicator switch on the left bar, and the right on the right bar, and no independent cancel button. Right hands already busy with throttle and braking, and the auto cancel doesn’t always work, so it’s a pita. Combined with the smarmy salesman, it was a deal breaker.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I didn't know that about Harley. Will they ever change do you think?

Good vid as ever Derek,,however “You get used to it” but we shouldn’t have to get used to unorthodox unintuitive dangerous control interfaces. You can go from a Merc to Skoda, to a bmw, or Ford and everything is pretty much as expected and intuitive. No drivers cockpit, less controls. No thanks not for me.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment Noel. Definitely won't be for everyone

If someone is nice to me, I go left right left with the indicators. Is this possible without stalks? Cars with the minimum 3 flashes can mess it up even with stalks. Great vid Des

@jlang123

23 күн бұрын

More common here to tap the warning flashers and immediately cancel so you get one or two flashes of both indicators.

It's not a case of getting used to it, it's a case of learning to put up with it because you literally have no choice. IMO

@982ru

Ай бұрын

It's better because you can have both hands on the steering wheel while in roundabout.

@commuterbranchline8132

Ай бұрын

I read an article that said the Dutch team behind the so called ‘s3xy’ buttons were working on an indicator stalks for the M3 Highland.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the comments all.

Can you tell me why Chinese car companies are delaying coming to Ireland?

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Like who exactly?

@londongoingelectricfan3107

Ай бұрын

@@NevoEVReviewIreland for example, ora 07 was supposed to arrive in early 24 and there’s still no update on it and also the Denza D9 was supposed to begin deliveries here in Q1 24 and that hasn’t started either

Great video Derek. I’ve recently bought a model 3 highland and I believe they are targeted towards those people coming from a BMW 😂. I think the stalk issue has been over exaggerated by a few and once you have gotten use to it you’ll find it hard going back to stalks.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Definitely what you get used to

Yeah... even less controls. Nope.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Those who have tried it are not put off by it

I'm sure anyone can get use to it I just don't see the point in it. Why reinvent something that doesn't need it, indicator stalks were much better and more functional. I'm all for moving technology forward if it improves driving, this doesn't. There is so much to like about Teslas and the new model 3 has a lot of improvements over the older version but the lack of stalks is a deal breaker for me. Please Tesla, at least offer stalks as an option.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

I wonder will they ever? Rumours of Euro NCAP looking to have physical buttons

Model 3 ultra red on the way next week ish.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Stunning colour

@markbrowne8447

Ай бұрын

Very nice, saw one in Limerick the other day and it looked very well

Careful now, you’ll be needing a nautical chart, a sextant and a course plotter for those u turns……. The turning circle on the Model Y is even worse.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

It was a very narrow street in fairness.

@commuterbranchline8132

Ай бұрын

@@NevoEVReviewIreland Yes indeed, the street was a narrow and your multipoint turn was deftly executed. As a Model Y driver of over two years, I would very much welcome a tighter turning circle.

FSD will be coming soon

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Not sure if in Europe

@mrmawson2438

Ай бұрын

@@NevoEVReviewIreland Germany are getting it and China

I am EV owner and i totally disillusioned. From the get go there was battery issues then i got that fixed and now my home charger (in warranty) is not working. I live in the west of Ireland depending on public chargers! It a month since i can charge at home. (inconvenience and extra cost) I am told by the supplier that they waiting on parts in the UK and also people to fix my charger even when i get the parts don’t want to fix because i am in a rural location. My advice is think long and hard before buying one.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

28 күн бұрын

Sounds very strange John and sorry to hear about the issues

I notice you didnt indicate into any gas stations to fill up on gasolene . Who cares about the lack of stalks .

Enshittification at its finest

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

My First Drive with Tesla FSD 12.3.6 - Full Neural Network Artificial Intelligence FSD Finding the Edge 2.98K

The new ergonomics is an utter joke.

@982ru

Ай бұрын

It's better because you can have both hands on the steering wheel when in roundabout.

@dr.andersonsghost4315

Ай бұрын

@@982ru Your hands must be the size of kitten paws, because any adult human would have no problem keeping both hands on the steering wheel while lifting a mere finger to turn the stalk. You can spin it however you want, but the lack of physical inputs is a cost saving measure, along with that dated IKEA interior.

@NevoEVReviewIreland

Ай бұрын

Thanks both for the comments. It's definitely divisive

@982ru

Ай бұрын

​@@dr.andersonsghost4315 If you spin turning wheel from 9-3 to 2-8, you'll need to release your left hand ( position 2) and go fishing for stalk ( position 9) to indicate, no matter how big you bearhands are. Any cheap casio is much more functional then the most expensive rolex. Buying Rolls-Royce over Tesla because of craftsmanship is one thing, but buying any other car over Tesla because of funcionality is ROFL.

@drteeth1063

Ай бұрын

@@982ru It's worse because you have to look down at the wheel to find the controls when on a roundabout.

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