All Kroot, all the time. Glad to see a fun take on list building. Loved the enthusiasm.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Thanks pal.

So refreshing to see a list building video where the focus isn't on min maxing and being competitive.

Dont apologise for not being competitive - its good to just talk warhammer without the total optimisation of everything

@teamkeogh

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Cheers for that pal. Makes me feel better.

@TheAnyon77

2 ай бұрын

I am nostalgic for the days we played lore based scenarios, last stands, and the like.

Kroot vs Catachan mini campaign would be cool. Id definitely watch that.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Need to get that done.

Awesome video, couple of things: As someone else said do not apologize for not being a competitive player. I love videos for people like me who just want to hang with people, talk hobby, roll dice and have fun. Second, I’d love to know what you would do at various point levels such as 500, 1000, 1500 and 2000. Again great video, I love your content and good luck reaching your subscriber goals!

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

I may be able to post my lists on my discord or patreon.

Nice video, I enjoyed the take on it and the ideas for synergies, much more enjoyable than just someone reading stat blocks. Wish i’d got a second box now!

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

I think i want three lol.

My thought for anti tank had been to put a hammerhead in the list but have a kroot model poking out of the top hatch. Making it appear they have been given it by the tau. That way tries to deal with more heavy armour that the actual range struggles with.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Yep it’s an easy plug in

As someone who ran the All-Kroot Mercenary army from Chapter Approved, I am glad to see them making a return to the new edition of 40K.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Oh me to. There such a great force.

i picked up two of the bundles and the killteam and damn these models are a joy to build, havent gotten a game in with them yet but i am very much looking forward to it!

@MediocreHobbies

2 ай бұрын

They are so nice. Cheers

From what I've heard so far. If you take the Kroot character with the bow and give him the - something - wood upgrade he can do a useful bit of plinking.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Ah that’s a good idea. I need to try it.

I love the extra content. Keep the reviews coming!

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

I plan on pal.

Just got that box. I'll add the lonespear when it's released. With the og kroot and farstalkers, it's already at 1k points!(ish.....) great video, really nice breakdown of units and lots of ideas. I'm very casual myself, so it's nice to see someone cater to that! Subscribed! (And not for the titan! I remember you from the shop.)

@MediocreHobbies

2 ай бұрын

Ah cheers pal. Very kind. And yes casual is how I enjoy the hobby.

Nice one, great to see a refreshing take on a dex review. Those new kroot models are very nice. Would love to see you doing a mini series om box to battlefield. Also id watch that mini campaign. Ive actually been thinking about doing an all sisters of silence detachment to run for fun. Personally this is the 40k i love. All this being super optimised takes the joy away. Personally i cant wait to see your all kroot army on the board. Have fun building them.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Cheers pal I will. And I love sisters of silence. I even have 10 of the duel pistol versions from forgeworld.

Fantastic video, have just finished watching it a second time now that my box has arrived, its nice to hear someone talking about the models in something other than a competitive sense. :) Im excited to play my first games since 7th ed.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it Pal. And ye I think we enjoy your hobby mor will.

Lovely Codex review Andy! Would love to see more of this, also for AoS, Necromunda, Kill Team, Warcry, Underworlds besides 40k. Keep up the great work!

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Thanks pal. I will do my best.

Loved this format of video I’d like to see more like it

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

You will get them.

I'm starting into 40k kroot are my boys. Kitbashing some kroot broadsides to help.

@MediocreHobbies

2 ай бұрын

Oh nice. They will look great.

I'm sold! Thanks for the insights on how the Kroot work. Very different play style to marines.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Very different and I’m already getting. Yeh force ready.

Good review - thanks

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Anytime

Thinking of adding some Vespid to my kroot list, they're fast, have decent anti marine shooting, can help cause the wounds for the other kroot, and can yoyo off the table when needed. And add to xenos feel of the army

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Very true. I may covert up some Kroot with wings and use vespid rules.

Great overview. As you said I think there is a weakness to heavy infantry and tanks. I also think the points are too high in the codex so hopefully they may comr down a bit with the day 1 points update. To make the army more rounded you could krootify broadsides or hammerheads or convert some thing of proxy like a large kroot type beast with a huge weapon on the back to be a kroot hammerhead.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Great ideas. And really fun hobby to do.

My buddy and I are planning to run a few games with pretty much an Infantry; my Kroot vs his Drukhari. The problem is that using the MFM for existing units and codex for new units I have to run at leas Farsight + Starscythe Crisis unit and one unit of Stealth suits just to get to 1965 points! And that is: 110 Carnivores and that isn't even all of my Carnivores. 6 Krootox Riders (4 OOP metal ones) 3 Trail Shapers (my OG Shapers) 3 War Shapers (one is Dahyak Grekh) 2 Flesh Shapers 6 Rampagers and 1 Farstalkers unit I don't think I missed anything. I don't have a proxie for the Lone-Spear yet. And I agree, it would be nice if we had some more anti-tank without going to the T'au regular forces.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Ah yes i I forgot about oothat.

This was helpful thanks

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Glad to hear.

Hey I plan on playing Kroot but I feel like they didn't give them everything they need. Like some gear options and like 2-3 more units *cough greater knarloc cough* I will have fun but I am ready to get my birdmen bullied and stuffed into lookers for a bit by until we get those parts. Side note I would love to see nids vs Kroot (alien vs predator). Thanks for the video *clacks for the greater good*

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Always for the greater good.

cool video, well done for a first time, nice to see a fun review instead of someone saying "this is competative" all the time

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it pal.

Great mate thanks for that

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Anytime.

Interesting video Andy, I’m glad it sounds like they have made them a viable solo army, albeit without anti armour but I’m sure they said they had more to come so maybe a knarloc will be forth coming as they do like to give everyone a “centrepiece”. As for you idea of a campaign on a dense forest board it’s a dream I have long since had my self and would love to see you put it into action in a video.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

A dream k want to make a reality.

Kroot would be good as there own thing , what’s out currently looks really good very tempted , hopefully there’s more coming .

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

God I hope so.

I just got into kroot! bought a box of doggos :> this video is great! thank u for some great ideas!

@MediocreHobbies

7 күн бұрын

Aw cool! I have a video on the hounds too!

Really good video, informative and interesting with really cool ideas for army composition! Is there anything that allows the kroot to lay traps or ambushes like the catschans could? Apologies if the question is silly I'm just new to kroot and haven't played in ages.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Perhaps some stratagems and no silly questions.

@whatamidoinghere2714

3 ай бұрын

Will keep an eye open for the stratagems. One other question, sorry to bother you. Regarding the dealing with enemy tanks issue, is it not possible to include Tau tanks/battle suits? As some sort of allied detachment or something like that, or will you lose all the kroot detachment rules if you do add Tau stuff?

Cheers Andy! For the Kroot algorithm!

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Hahaha Dam straight.

Always prefer to see lists based around fluff and not competitive.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Same. Make for better games.

Oh so for the warshapers what do you like or think about running them? I plan on trying at least with some ranged just to see it. I plan on getting all my old Kroot and the new ones and mix them up.

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

They will look great all together.

Seems like this is definitely the type of army you need to master in order to do well. But the lack of anti vehicle is a little problematic. I wonder if you go full swarm and overwhelm objectives with tons of battleline. Kroot Infantry is OC 2 I hope?

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

They are indeed.

@chrisprime7767

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, if it was me, I'd go down the Swarm route, since you won't be killing anything high toughness. They're fairly fast, especially with that enhancement, so storm objectives with kroot blobs and out OC the opponent. 🤷‍♂️ But do whatever is cool! Not every list has to be competitive.

Enjoyed the vid ! I think the Kinband might be under rated with their infiltrate ability and range, albeit lacking durability,

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Ok ok. I shall have another look at them.

Don't sell yourself short Andy, #1 Old World player in Ireland I thought! ;-)

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Hahaha that is true.

I want to have a nice Kroot force but I don't really like repeating kits, specially if they don't have any options... So I'll use them in smaller games alone and just sprinkle them into my T'au army for bigger games. I really hope GW gives the same treatment to the Vaspid Stingwings and makes them a viable force on their own!

@MediocreHobbies

2 ай бұрын

That’s totally fair! Smaller games with them would be really cool anyway!

I love the Kroot. But they will be blown away in the first turn of enemy shooting due their normal toughness T3. Flamers will shred them like small Nids. They’re fragile like Orks but without the Oomph Orks have. A -1 to hit with shooting can be easily countered by forces with a 10th edition codex. And they lack the kick to cut through hard troops in melee. And have no real counter to vehicles and armor. Kroot are supposed to work in hordes but aren’t cheap enough. They’re good vs light infantry but that’s about it. :/

@sarico7827

3 ай бұрын

Yeah 100 percent. You can have fun but you're going to lose to a lot of people's not even optemised lists.

@ChainGraveGames

3 ай бұрын

You're not taking in the 5+ Inv on Shooting or the 6+ FNP with a Flesh Shaper into account, it's not much but it gives them an extra chance at weathering shooting.

@wyrdhunter

3 ай бұрын

@@ChainGraveGames I am basing my belief off of watching genestealers with the same invulnerable save getting mowed down. With their shenanigans you can get 1 unit into combat fairly guaranteed fast (broodlord + stratagem) but they still lose so many to over watch by flamers that they are defanged by the time you get to melee combat. And units without broodlord+ are lucky to be at half strength by the time they engage in melee. Kroon make an inexpensive objective taking force but lack long range punch (or close range punch) with gnarlocs erased. :/

@sarico7827

3 ай бұрын

You know we probably won't get shot off the board actually. We will be asking our opponent a simple question can you kill like 40 Kroot a turn? That might be hard to legitimately do for armies. I do plan on running full Kroot and hope we get some more wonderful Kroot again.

@wyrdhunter

3 ай бұрын

@@sarico7827 It’s actually fairly easy for most armies with shooting to do actually. It’s not much harder than killing 40 guard infantry or 40 Eldar guardians or 40 Dark Elder kabalites or 40 hormogants or 40 fire warriors. CC focused armies will not be able to but they’re the minority of 40K armies. T3 5+ save line troops are fine it’s that they lack the units which would follow with more firepower and durability. Kroot with Tau is perfect because you have crisis suits and vehicles backing them up. If GW brought back gnarlocs and/or made kroot in vehicles (captured or their own) I think a pure kroot would work.

3:46 read some of the weapon options for that guy then look at that relic again.

@MediocreHobbies

2 ай бұрын

Oh really? Am I missing something.

@Clonetrooper8983

2 ай бұрын

@@MediocreHobbies I was talking about that one with a friend of mine when we were comparing notes. One of the ranged weapons that would gain that ability has anti infantry 3+ plus damage 2, meaning with percision not even enemy terminator characters would be safe if that warshaper got anywhere near them.

An all Kroot army looks cool! Let me just.... OH GOD THE PRICE

@MediocreHobbies

Ай бұрын

Yeah…😅

I will end up with three Kroot hunting packs. I miss the Knarloc.

@MediocreHobbies

Ай бұрын

Ye he is great.

Soo can I run kroot with a big tau mech?

@MediocreHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Of course.

@patryckriley1016

3 ай бұрын

@@MediocreHobbies bettt