"hey guys it would be pretty goofy if this were possible :p" "nah it aint" "oh damn nevermind it is possible"

@JimMilton-ej6zi

10 күн бұрын

Gotta love when speedrun "experts" get proven wrong

@tomboy_kisser

10 күн бұрын

Fr, I love it when crabs try to shut people down and state opinions as if they're facts only to get proved wrong. So satisfying lol

@xdYama

8 күн бұрын

@@tomboy_kisserhe’s a personal friend of mine, he’s an awesome person. He’s a very very good player, and just didn’t think it was possible. Do you always type like someone’s gonna screenshot it

@xdYama

8 күн бұрын

@@tomboy_kisserhe’s a personal friend of mine, he’s an awesome person. He’s a very very good player, and just didn’t think it was possible. Do you always type like someone’s gonna screenshot it

@chet_awesomelad

8 күн бұрын

@@xdYama Your friend needs to learn to use qualifiers. There's a big difference between "based on what we know, it's not possible" and "that is not possible, people have already tried lol"

Hilarious how "not humanly viable" becomes "i can do it 3 times in a row" so fast

@vlc-cosplayer

9 күн бұрын

"Not humanly viable" is speedrunning's "featherless biped"

@arandomguywholikesnumbersl8565

5 күн бұрын

Lop

I just love speedrun documentaries. I hope people keep breaking games and people keep explaining it. Also love when random people just find things like in MGS.

@javen9693

10 күн бұрын

I just HATE speedrun documentaries. I hope no one ever breaks a game again and no one is there to explain it. I hope that only unrandom, very SPECIFIC people find things like in MGS.

@MimoriAzume

10 күн бұрын

​@@javen9693 yall should breed and ask the kid what they think of speedrun documentaries

@JosiahBradley

10 күн бұрын

@@MimoriAzume I have no clue what I said though. I was trying to be positive about something I enjoy. I don't think I'd get along with them.

@user-yp8gg7gw2n

10 күн бұрын

​@@JosiahBradleythere are people that exist that see positivity and will do everything they can to tear it down. Why? Some want to cause harm, some find it funny, some want to take your energy. Either way, these trolls feed off the response.

@jinkies_

10 күн бұрын

shoutouts to boba

When I was routing Gollum Zumo came out of nowhere with some of the craziest skips and concepts I had ever seen. I setup several bounties for different skips I was having difficulty finding and he would just figure it out. Dude understands games on a different level. Not the least bit surprised he's finding new stuff in other communities as well.

@Abyssoft

10 күн бұрын

Legit Zumo joined the discord because he was curious about if the game had any skips as he hadn't played it since 2005.

@JimMilton-ej6zi

10 күн бұрын

I keep confusing you with apollo legend

@darthtace

10 күн бұрын

@@JimMilton-ej6zi Apollo Legend passed away in December of 2020.

@GellyGelbertson

10 күн бұрын

zumo did a lot of work for talos 2 as well. cool to see him doing a lot for many games.

@KetsubanSolo

10 күн бұрын

​@JimMilton-ej6zi I dunno if this is a really sick attempt at pwnage or if you really don't know the ummm... irony of that statement

Thank you for covering this! As a Mario Kart DS player, it's really exciting to see that there are still new things to find in this game. It's been a great challenge trying out these new skips and seeing the whole community attempt them as well!

@GlitchanBlack

10 күн бұрын

You and the others (Zumo especially) are an absolute legend for taking my childhood game this far. :')

@xxlarrytfvwxx9531

10 күн бұрын

Man, I really want to get into the speedrunning of MKDS, but I can't even replicate my shell cup PB.

@XxMilleneumxX

10 күн бұрын

@@xxlarrytfvwxx9531dude same I only got a 3ds now and can’t snake worth shit. Thinking of getting an original DS again specifically to speedrun this game. This is my personal favorite Mario kart so I’m so happy to see the progression/hype around it

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

so true

@TheChilo61

8 күн бұрын

“As a player” you are /the/ player lol

0:50 That clown mask paid itself in full

@LeonisYT

10 күн бұрын

Was about the comment the same😂

@KanaIzumiya

10 күн бұрын

imagine paying for the clown decoration instead of getting it for free in the april fools event skill issue i suppose

@_machello_8510

10 күн бұрын

I'm surprised that dasher is still grinding this gme

@FunnyFreak_

10 күн бұрын

@@KanaIzumiya Pretty sure that it isnt available to buy

@KanaIzumiya

10 күн бұрын

​@@FunnyFreak_ Oh, OP's comment made me think it was.

The beauty of thinking outside the box is fully on display here. It goes to show what people can do when a new set of eyes comes in.

The day Figure-8 Circuit gets an ultra shortcut is going to be one of the craziest things ever conceived by the human race

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

unfortunately won't happen, since MKDS requires you to cross all of the key checkpoints in order in order to count a lap

@HolySpaceMan

5 күн бұрын

@@GuanlongXuntil manual code injection insta victory skip which will be found late 2025

Able "This won't be done 3/3 for many years" ... Now -> 3/3 What a amazing discovery! Glad I could be apart of this discovery in its first couple of days of it being labbed out on stream after it being done RTA. You people are sweet and I can't wait to see what else will be uncovered as this opened up a very big door.

This really shows the importance of fresh blood in a community doing any kind of research or development long term!

I actually talked with iMathII on Discord after these skips were found, and we both noted how similar the Luigi's Mansion skip was to the skip found in the Mario Kart 7 version of the track. I guess we came full circle with that one lol

@DittoGTI

10 күн бұрын

Yeah I noticed the similarity. It's funny when SCs are found in remakes of tracks before they're found in the originals

Look Gary, there I am again! I had fun helping you out with this video, maybe someday more stuff will be found and another video will have to be made. Big shootouts to zumo, imathii, Marisa, and mkdasher. I think we've officially written our names in the mkds history books.

I'm just glad DS can join Super Circuit, 64 and Wii in having a ton of broken shortcuts.

@DittoGTI

10 күн бұрын

And 7

@GuanlongX

10 күн бұрын

errrr i hate to break it to you but... we've got... five shortcuts so far out of 32 tracks we're not quite broken yet

@DittoGTI

10 күн бұрын

@@GuanlongX He probs thinks MKDD and 8 are broken

@GuanlongX

10 күн бұрын

@@DittoGTI well, double dash did have a good handful of shortcuts once some tech was discovered i don't personally keep up with mk8 so i can't say anything about it

@DittoGTI

10 күн бұрын

@@GuanlongX 8dx (we're including BCP here) has effectively 2 unintended ultra scs and they aren't even close to the same level as other games. There's a way to skip most of the u turn in Snow Land and a way to fly a large section of big blue

I never would have expected these shortcuts to be a reality just a few weeks ago, but it's been so exciting to be a part of. Thanks for covering this, glad to see MKDS in the spotlight!

"actually, we tried that, its not possible, and even if it was, its slower" "Anazing, every word of which you just said is wrong"

awesome!!! thanks so much for covering this and shouting out everyone :) it was such a great time following the new shortcuts and playing them as well :D

@DittoGTI

10 күн бұрын

Oh hello MKSC TAS all cups guy

@RobertMcKinnonMainChannel

10 күн бұрын

@@DittoGTI hello! :)

The community: "you can't do that" Zumo: "Satan is a pogo stick and he is a persistent being"

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

it was one person who said that

I love that the idea of this was the following conversation Taser: "That trick isn't possible and even if it was wouldn't save enough time" Zumo: "I did it on 300cc so it isn't possible, YET!"

2:50 adskip.

@MrKlimto

10 күн бұрын

Use the SponsorBlock extension. Thank me later.

@girlmaya6818

8 күн бұрын

Sp0nsorbIock

@Pixiuchu

8 күн бұрын

pr0m0tion

@LordFrood

7 күн бұрын

Basic patience

@girlmaya6818

6 күн бұрын

@@LordFrood You do not know how much worse your experience is with ads everywhere until you go without. Capitalism puts such a toll on our mental health in so many ways and people often don't realize

I'm sad that it wasn't mentioned that I theorized the shortcut on Delfina Square.😅

@HHHero73

5 күн бұрын

I’m not sure I can provide proof, but back when I was a teenager I used to grind this game religiously, trying out cool things you heard around the block or tried to do stuff you’d read online that were theoretically possible (like the super boost start). the DF skip was something I did back in the day on a TT. I never knew this wasn’t known. How things come full circle in modern times is so fascinating.

To everyone saying complaining about the guy who said it isn’t possible: He’s a very good dude, i’ve been friends with him for almost a year now. I can tell you he did not mean it in a bad way. The person who made the shortcut happen is also defending him. Put it to rest, you’re spoiling the fun.

@mmp5453

5 күн бұрын

he definitely meant it in a “what a noob” way. if you’re friends with him doesn’t that make you all the more biased to defend him? 😂 guy just couldn’t believe anyone was better than him, and he got humbled.

@voreoh3677

5 күн бұрын

@@mmp5453 no? do u not have friends?

@alysdexia

5 күн бұрын

he’s not a funny dresser, ass

@timohara7717

5 күн бұрын

Oof ​@@voreoh3677

@swaggymeowmeow

5 күн бұрын

​​@@mmp5453 this might be the most out of touch reply ive ever read. mods study their brain so we can figure out how its possible to be this dumb, and then put our findings in a museum.

Great video! I am so happy that someone really showcases the real heros of those new ultra shortcuts. Of course we mad lads who played this game for almost 20 years got the shortcut shortly after the RTA strategy was discovered, but the real deal here are the people who came in without any deep knowledge of the game and just found those bounces! Huge shoutouts to Zumo and Guan, you will be immortalized in the MKDS history books forever!

Are we naming these Zumo bounces or what?

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

It's been named the Dram Hop

@SSDARKPIT

3 күн бұрын

​@GuanlongX that's kinda boring.

@GuanlongX

3 күн бұрын

@@SSDARKPIT womp womp people still call it the super bounce anyway

Brilliant video! Thank you very much for covering this mad period in our game. It still feels so surreal.

It always amazes me how major skips are still being found for these old games. Absolutely fascinating

mario 🗣️ (we are now working in doing the WP shortcut 3/3 without mushrooms it's looking pretty good :] )

@ezbaek8541

8 сағат бұрын

Great work here. Always enjoy seeing a fellow speedrun head who happen across tech and can't put it down once theyve seen its potential. The urge to optimize is unquenchable

Never say never when you're a community dedicated to making the impossible possible to get the fastest possible time. This goes for a lot of closed-knit communities but I tend to find that ones that dive into technicals love to have crab mentality that stifles new innovation, fresh blood and new forms of thinking are how we evolve!

If a game mechanic is kinda bouncy (literally), especially in a Kart game, it's absolutely worth to test in depth. "Weird" testing like that, gives great glitch-finding potential, for speedrunning

The super bounce helped me maintain the skill-consistency while racing to net the 3-Star Rank on the Mirror Mode Flower Cup. In 150cc and Mirror Mode, you can superbounce on the crest of the final three hills before the finish line in Choco Mountain if you jump on the summit of all three hills. Try it sometime, it's awesome!

@LKBoots15

10 күн бұрын

Ah. A TASer mentioned this. My kart of choice for this was the Dry Bomber with Dry Bones, but like the TASer person said in the screenshot earlier in the video, the Dry Bomber doesn't fly as far as the other kart mentioned, the Shooting Star. Still very cool and satisfying to jump across all three hills. The timing is very precise to make it work.

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

@@LKBoots15 yes, it's frame perfect however, that experience with the shooting star was a year and a half ago and it turns out a lot of karts can make that jump if you're precise enough

Random guy on Discord: "it isn't possible" Literally 30 seconds later in the vid: it's actually possible Brother, why would you get into speedrunning and still believe anything is impossible. Doing the impossible is literally the point lmao.

@Kinkajou1015

10 күн бұрын

Anytime anyone in the speed running community says something isn't possible or can't be done or can't be beaten, they will into existence the determination to prove it is possible.

@sagepuddings2

10 күн бұрын

Sometimes you gotta just say something is impossible so it can be included in the Speedrun doc as a dramatic "people thought it couldn't be done" moment lol

@PunkNDisorderlyGamer

10 күн бұрын

I hate when members of a speedrun community come out as the grand wizards of knowledge and attempt to kill a potential breakthrough. Yeah no shit it’s not possible because it hasn’t been done yet. Let’s look into this a little more.

@sagepuddings2

10 күн бұрын

I think it's reasonable to question the possibility of something and during this whole sequence I was wrong a LOT. Think the best way to phrase it is "I'm not convinced, prove it's doable"

@paulelderson934

10 күн бұрын

There is universe teleportation by cloned objects at integer limit speeds in Super Mario 64. No one should ever claim that a game or unrestricted category is "dead".

I'm a router myself for other games, and I've also been told that something wasn't possible when I'd asked. Not only was it possible, but it wasn't even close to being impossible. It actually wasn't even hard to do, so I don't actually know what they did to prove to themselves that it was impossible, but it also doesn't matter. The takeaway I realized after a couple of these instances happening is that you have to rely on your own judgement if you want to know for sure.

If there is one thing thos speedrunning documentaries have taught me, it's that nothing (!) is impossible and declaring it that just makes it even more likely to happen. If it is theoretically possible, it will be done by some crazy maniac at some point to crush the record. Thats what i love avout speed running. The dedication people put into this is insane.

I actually got that glitch while playing solo grand prix. I was so pissed that I hit the enterance ceiling but was nevwr able to replicate. It insane now this glitch completely wiped out few records

I had a feeling Abyssoft would be making a video about this 👍

This man doesn't speak about 9's work, that's an unperfect video.

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

actually real

What really got me was "after 18 years" like damn, already...?

i cannot describe how much i love speedrun progression update videos like this one. Always shows how strong the communities of each game work together! Thanks for sharing these stories with us outsiders

It is genuinely impressive how some speedrun discoveries are just the result of "so I was mucking about with this." Like how SM64DS got a couple new upwarp skip strats from NB's "can you beat the game without mario" challenge prompting Adeal to push the boundaries

@Pixiuchu

8 күн бұрын

thats how the largest skip was found in Mario & Luigi Dream Team (saving 50 minutes by skipping Driftwood Shore), guy was just doing random stuff not even glitch hunting and found a "funny visual glitch" not even realizing what he had actually found. Sometimes all you need is someone doing stuff others wouldn't think of...

Dude, you deserve more views, all your videos are super high quality, incredibly good

Should be named the “MaestroPika got owned” skip

@tomboy_kisser

10 күн бұрын

Fr, I love it when crabs try to shut people down and state opinions as if they're facts only to get proved wrong. So satisfying lol

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

i disagree

@xdYama

8 күн бұрын

@@tomboy_kisseri know him personally, he’s a good guy. He thought it wasn’t possible and he didn’t want someone to waste their time

@Winter_Fan_01

6 күн бұрын

He did antagonize himself by saying it was impossible, but hahaha that's normal of most people. Stuff has to be attempted recurrently, 5 and 10 and 40 times isn't enough. Maybe 41 attempts would just do the trick

I’ve bounced while exploring in time trials before, but not like that. I love watching games I’ve interacted with get huge finds like this.

0:50 Why haven't people figured out by now that people ALWAYS find a way. Matt Turk with Mike Tyson's Punch Out, Wind Waker Barrier Skip, Sub-5-minute Super Mario Bros. How can anyone say that something is impossible.

This was so cool!!! I have also NEVER seen that Kart yoshi was using in waluigi pinball wtf

Love when a new guy comes in with an idea that destroys a speedrun

Very interesting video, you're really good at explaining these things in a way that most people can understand. Great job, looking forward to the next one.

"Mechanics in Mario Kart can be complex. And this video's sponsor Brilliant is a great asset for helping you learn about difficult topics." That segway caught me off guard wtf

It's crazy how Mario Kart DS still gets massive improvements this far into the game's life. Truly amazing.

I love all the great stuff these gamers discover in the older games. There have been some, over the years, that I even remember doing way back - but we had NO idea it was a 'skip' or incredibly difficult maneuver.

Omg maybe this explains it. Years ago i played a vs race on bowsers castle, and on the 2nd turn i mushroomed and hopped for a drift, but hit an AI using a star. For some reason, and i think its the super bounce, i gained crazy air and flew off into the lava to the left of the start line. I couldnt get a replay of anything unfortunately

Wow this is incredible!!! Also, how can I access to all that invisible information of the map, like invisible walls, hitboxes and check points????

Finally something for the DS version 😅

@Abyssoft

10 күн бұрын

My last MK video was also on MKDS

@RobertMcKinnonMainChannel

10 күн бұрын

@@Abyssoft he might've been talking about new shortcuts rather than a new video, not sure though

@8o3s87

10 күн бұрын

@@Abyssoft I meant shortcut wise, I think mario kart DS speedrunning is relatively niche compared to other mario kart speed run scenes so it’s nice to see big changes shortcut wise 👍 Also don’t worry I know, I watch all your videos 🙏

Speedrun documentaries are like crack to me and my 2 braincells trying to knit game dev socks. Always love your videos.

You know things are going crazy in a speedrunning community when a commentator hits you with a "while I was editing this video..."

Zumo really just woke up one day and decided _i'm going to make history in the Mario Kart DS speedrun community_

It’s truly incredible what a dedicated community can do. Hats off to all of you in the community.

I don't usually follow these things. But seeing people do wacky things to a classic game out of the blue is really cool to see.

I feel like as soon as Im not interested in mario kart, I keep having to come back for these glitch videos

Ah, the nostalgia; I played the crap out of this game as a kid, especially Yoshi.

“Waluigi’s Pinball was also being investigated…” is hilarious out of context 😅

I´m not surprised a non pro found this. Pros just say "it wont work" or "thats not how its done".

i cant wait for the summoning salt video on this

He called my wife... a zumo wrastler

people saying something isnt possible probably singlehanded ruined the curiosity in so many games the most

my complaints about Waluigi Pinball not having a shortcut has been addressed.

This is so cool! Love watching MKDS stuff

I'm suprised these OLD games are STILL being discovered, you'd think we know everything, and could recode the entire game from scratch by now.

No way... I didn't think skips were possible. I recently found my old DSi and I've been playing mario kart to pass the time. I'm definitely trying out next time i boot up my game

Do you have to hit the key checkpoints in the right order? If not then maybe some rerouting can be done to find a faster FLAP?

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

yes

@xxlarrytfvwxx9531

9 күн бұрын

@@GuanlongX So checkpoints hit in order, got it.

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

@@xxlarrytfvwxx9531 yes, the only reason we're able to skip the parts of the tracks we do is because those segments don't contain any key checkpoints

Wait yall didnt know? My middle brother found that with a cheat module like a year after the games release... Honestly had no clue people didnt know since I havent touched the game in years or anything related to it... Ima check out some of my old ghost data to see if we have more skips we had found

I haven’t played Mario Kart DS in so long but this was still fascinating to watch.

The game will be 20 years old next year. That’s crazy to think about.

this is why you should always ignore anyone in discord who has a colored name, flairs, special status, or any clout whatsoever. they are always wrong.

I have a somewhat off topic question. How are you using karts with the wrong characters? I never had that option in my game. I couldn't use Waluigi's karts with Mario, for example.

@ruipedrosousa8542

9 күн бұрын

You need to get gold trophies on all mirror cups. After that you can use any car with any character

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

@@ruipedrosousa8542 yes

Love that so many people including myself are still so interested in these older games

Dang, I never would've thought you'd be a able to use bouncing like that! I played MKDS for years... so why did this never cross my mind?

bro I found that too but I thought everyone knew about it, like who tf discovers a new thing in 2023? welp, apparently me and this dude

@ShiniGGami

7 күн бұрын

I even joined the discord for 2 days to ask about prb and could've just mentoined it but AAARGH now I'm not in a yt video maaan I'm stupid

@elvingearmasterirma7241

5 күн бұрын

And thats why you record your findings. Text and video.

2:54 the down button does WHAT????????

The most mind blowing thing for me is not the shortcuts or world records being achieved... You can have LESS than 3 shrooms on time trial????

So no one gonna talk about how that ad transition was smooth af?

I'm not sure I understand how its possible to not know how physics work in a game. Isn't all this information available to people who dig into the code?

So this is why my recommended feed has been filled with WRs for this ancient game.

Crazy that the pinball record got done 3 times in one run

Im so so glad MKDS is still being optimized

I LOVE speedrun history!

So hype to see the best mario kart get attention :DDDDD

Hello Dry Bones, my old friend. My childhood self randomly picked the best character as his favorite again.

Bro guanlong is the dude who performed my fossil fighters frontier out of bounds methods randomly seeing him in a vid felt so weird

@GuanlongX

6 күн бұрын

yeah that's me hi really cool to see you here

zumo reviving the whole community out of curiosity

nice video bro :) keep it up

The title makes me feel so old. I feel like just yesterday I was playing this on the bus from middle school. 18 years ago yuck

I always love seeing MKDS

Shoutout to MaestroPika for trying to shutdown this whole thing, with an “lol” to boot 🙄😂

this is gonna be so hype!

Wow. This game has been unbreakable for all these years and then boom

Finally, MKDS getting some love :D

i love waluigi's pinball

I love seeing new tech

Kinda weird that a MK game had those plain in sight shortcuts and nobody bothered to explore them sufficiently. Goes to show you can't always trust the ""experts"".

Congrats to Pudding and Dasher for making this possible! and all the other guys that I don’t remember the name congrats boys

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

okay

@SableyeMK

9 күн бұрын

@@GuanlongX yeah you too

@GuanlongX

9 күн бұрын

@@SableyeMK i'm sorry i don't know why i said this

@SableyeMK

9 күн бұрын

@@GuanlongX Neither do I bro

ZumoDePapaya means peach juice lol, gotta love spanish