Before the next world cup we will have touch rugby to watch. What a shame!!!

@thembibaardman538

Ай бұрын

@Willie...LOL. heaven forbid. It would be a shame indeed. The beauty of rugby is that it can be played by people of all body sizes.

@stevedavidson666

Ай бұрын

More like rugby league, which'll keep the NZRU and ARU really happy.

Rassie not worried, he a step ahead!

@MosesMatsepane

Ай бұрын

This one is a big deal when it comes to Boks. It's going to affect the Boks. There's a massive loophole to avoid Scrums now thus invalidating our dramatic 7:1 splits and deadly scrums.

@plutoniumnitrate1201

Ай бұрын

@@MosesMatsepane time to move on and accept the situation......a chance for rassie to adapt yet again

@mikew8557

Ай бұрын

He's a whily fella that Rassie.

Irish guy here who thinks there is too much experimentation and does not like the idea of union morphing into rugby league. Nevertheless appreciating him since we knew him as director of rugby at Munster, I think Rassie will find a way forward. I would rather world rugby would instead have instructed referees to enforce the rule about putting the ball in straight thus allowing the opposition a chance to gain possession.

@robcrocker348

Ай бұрын

Let's see what happens with your your, I'm sure Russie and Andy will already have figured things out by the time the best teams in the world face off. Keep standing tall sunshine can't wait for the two matches, I will be at the game in dbn

@gedsimpson9854

28 күн бұрын

The question I would like answering is why do NO referees enforce putting the ball in straight. The theme of it has gone from putting it in marginally backwards to blatently feeding to the back row. Contested scrum no longer means contesting for the ball, but just a contest of strength.

Scrums are part of the charm of the game. I always thought they are fun and fascinating to watch. Big mistake by Rugby to do this. You can't improve on success and to perform a lobotomy on a well functioning popular game will hurt it greatly. Plus when I see it is a-holes like the management of England and Australia at the forefront of these rule changes, you know it is small minded, you know it is petty and you know jealousy is behind it and you know that people can't see out from in front of their nose are the ones doing this. And, we all know that if England or Australia were the Masters of the Scrum at the moment, these rules wouldn't be changing.

@eamonnoneill1340

Ай бұрын

I hate scrums very slow and boring to set up and nobody including the ref knows what the hell is going on inside them so this is really good change

@stevedavidson666

Ай бұрын

Well said - and the reason from the ARU (aided and abetter IMHO by the NZRU) is because they are in competition with rugby league and want to make union similar to get the crowds. The poms are just Posh Boys who hate SA because we're 'normal' people and have thrashed them in too many games.

@stevedavidson666

Ай бұрын

@@eamonnoneill1340 Have you ever played rugby (union)? Doesn't sound like it!!

@bok500

Ай бұрын

​@@eamonnoneill1340 Perfect game for you rugby league.

Here is a solution if I am scrum dominant team. Knock on, ref awards a scrum. Weak scrum team (wst) infringe = ref short arm, so now no scrum Strong scrum team (SST) take the ball run it and knock it on = another scrum Wst = infringe SST = repeat We could end up with more scrums stops and repeats than ever before. As the SST I’ll just keep knocking it on and force the scrum again and again and again, for the full 80min until WR realises they’ve broken the game. I’d be deliberate and bum them and their stupid rule changes.

Scrums are not dead time. The scrum is an iconic facet and action. Whats next? Time outs, passing, being fake as the NFL?

Rassie already planned ahead. He said so himself a while ago if we want to take the cup a 3rd time we wont be able to play forward base rugby. Thats why he appointed brown as coach.

No one is watching Rugby League and WR is trying to turn Union into League.

@DavidSmith-yi8ou

Ай бұрын

It will be absolutely nothing like league.

@stevedavidson666

Ай бұрын

@@DavidSmith-yi8ou Erm, what?

@DavidSmith-yi8ou

Ай бұрын

@@stevedavidson666 Union will be nothing like league even after the law changes.

@MosesMatsepane

Ай бұрын

@@DavidSmith-yi8ou I know that, but their reasoning for law changes is to speed up the game so that more people can watch it. My point is, Rugby League is a fast paced game, yet it doesn't have mass appeal.

@DavidSmith-yi8ou

Ай бұрын

@@MosesMatsepane yes and no. Internationally there is a low following of league. However, its following in Australia/NZ is growing. Really good crowd attendances that smash rugby. It’ll never surpass rugby in nz but there’s no denying that as a comp the NRL smashes rugby viewership in Australia and impacting NZ union numbers. Fact is, it’s a good product that’s drawing eyeballs away from Union in Australasia. Some of that is because side by side some Union games are just way too slow with all the scrum resets, faked prop injuries, water boys etc. Not in NZ comps but in test matches. Rugby has competition here. Won’t change me though. I can’t stand league.

Once upon a time the scrum half used to have to feed the ball in straight... and the refs actually blew it. The law is still there.

@barron4755

Ай бұрын

This Video is about stopping scrums a free kicks. Are you watching the right video?

@thedarkprinceza

Ай бұрын

​@barron4755 Original poster is trying to show the inconsistency of WR

@stevedavidson666

Ай бұрын

Totally - WTF did the skew put ins come from? The big problem with scrums IMHO is the 'Set' is all wrong - there should be no crash but a more sedate joining of the two front rows which might negate a lot of the collapses we see.

Guys, we used it once off a mark. I don't think we need to panic - so basically to keep scrums in the game we need more knock ons, how do you create more knock ons, pressure, hard low tackles, pull not push defence, line-out defence. Keep finding other sources of scrums. We can see the difference in these next two games clearer. Ireland are a phenomenal running rugby side, watch their last game against all blacks again and tell me you have seen better ball handling, cut out, overlap attacking rugby. that's what we should be worried about

As an Irish fan, leave the scrum alone, it's a key part of the game. Note, outside of England no-one in the NH gives a toss about League, it's all Union.

Choose 8 Peter Steph Du Toits. No need to scrum

What world rugby are trying to do doesnt make the game faster and more exciting. It actually makes it boring. For rugby league is one dimentional and boring. Having 15 guys spread out across the field doesnt create more tries. Having scrums created opportunities for tries

@Samizouza

Ай бұрын

Damn right they are, it just stifles the game even more

@stevedavidson666

Ай бұрын

Well said: 'Five tackles, kick; Five tackles, kick; ad freaking nauseam!'

@ricmorris9758

Ай бұрын

Not when you opt to take a scrum in your own 22 off a mark it doesn't. That's just trying to milk penalties.

@RabbitholeIsrael

Ай бұрын

@@ricmorris9758 that is trying to tire the opposition forwards who gets to stand around and tackle the whole game.

@graeme8768

Ай бұрын

​@@ricmorris9758milk penalties? So what??? If your team has a weakness, then a stronger team will exploit it. You think like a clown. Oh no, my scrum isn't strong so let's cut the scrums. Dumbest comment so far.

Rassie and the Springboks will adapt. Probably find some other innovative tactic for World Rugby to worry about.

@grahamsolomons453

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Exactly.

@BertFlashman

Ай бұрын

It’s not all about South Africa bro

@intercept1710

Ай бұрын

Anything to slow the game down.

@graeme8768

Ай бұрын

​@@BertFlashmanreally? Bawahahaha. It's all about SA. The teams up north. Nothing else. If France or Ireland won the RWC, no one would be changing shit. Shame. If they can't win they will make a plan. Weaklings.

Here is an idea for the new free-kick rule. If you are let's say within your opponent's 22 zone. Keep possession of the ball and treat the situation as you would a 5-meter lineout. Tap the ball and form a rolling maul, the exact same way you would from a 5-meter lineout That way you keep possession of the ball, can gain territory, and possibly score a try. Now if you are in your opponents half , you can apply the same move to gain ground and then use the backline to run the ball. The bottom line is, to use the driving maul method from a free kick in your opponents half.

Happy 50th Birthdat dude!

Scrum is one of our many weapons/strengths,not our only strength and I don't believe it will only affect the Springboks because most nations like Ireland,France, New Zealand, England have strong scrums as well and this rule will affect them as well

It only applies to the first (penalisable) scrum with a free kick, a second scrum that is penalisable (by the same team) (early engage/collapse) gets a penalty.

We'll find a way to pull through this Stronger Together our famous motto ❤

In the 1987 WC there were 32 scrums and 45 lineouts on average per game. In the 2023 WC there were 15 scrums and 27 lineouts on average per game. The 1987 final had 28:11 minutes of ball in play time and the 2023 final had 34:18 minutes of ball in play time. With the freekick law you might see three or four less scrums per game and that will make almost no difference to the ball in play time, maybe a half a minute or even less. World rugby is lying. It has nothing to do with ball in play time. They want the game to be less setpiece driven. The All Blacks performance manager said in a interview that since the SA teams have left Super Rugby they are having a problem to get their players use to playing against setpiece driven teams. These new laws are simple there to help the Pacific nations. The claim that they want a better brand of rugby holds no water. Many leagues are seing record attendance and viewerships. If their argument has any truth to it why is it that Super Rugby, the league which is least setpiece driven and who plays more of the type of game that World Rugby wants are struggling the most with viewerships and attendance? Super Rugby is boring because they don't have competition. After four rounds you have a good idea who is going to play in the semi and finals. The lack of competition in their league is their problem. The last WC saw record viewerships because the groups were competitive. By the quarterfinals two of the top sides were going to say good bye. It all made for competitive games and very few blowouts. That is what fans wants. I will much rather watch a competitive game between two teams that I don't know, then watching the one team win by 60 or 70 regardless the type of rugby they play.

@caiphus321

Ай бұрын

Comprehensive and spot on mate. World rugby is taking away the essence of rugby no wonder the sport is struggling to grow like football

@ngabushallday6642

Ай бұрын

There's "Ball in play" & then ball that just gets retained by one forward pack or the other until someone kicks, then we get kick tennis. Rugby used to have a fatigue factor to it, 15 on 15 going at it for 80 minutes, replacements would come on for injured players. The game has now morphed into a squad depth competition with a heavy over-reliance on set piece, which are, after all, nothing more than a restart of play. The 87 WC final ball in play aspect was a game of running rugby, two teams that would actually attack with the ball, the 2023 WC final featured one team that wanted to attack with the ball and another who didn't. Rugby is no longer about promoting the ball over your opponents try line for certain teams and is for others.

@tihei9209

Ай бұрын

With the freekick law you might see three or four less scrums per game and that will make almost no difference to the ball in play time, maybe a half a minute or even less. Dude take a deep breath and clam down, SA aint going no where. Instead of worrying about the sky is falling, think about that extra half a minute to get more points. Honestly do you think its gonna bother Rassie and the team. c'mon it aint shit...

@wlk2408

Ай бұрын

@@tihei9209 Nobody think the sky is falling. What are you on about? The question is why change something that ain't broke? Especially if it ain't going to do what you say its going to do. I am not worried about Rassie.

@wlk2408

Ай бұрын

@@ngabushallday6642 In the 1990's they made it very difficult to steel the ball at rucks and we had teams like the Brumbies that would take the ball through twenty or thirsty phases but there weren't more tries scored than today. It guts both ways. The laws allow teams with different game styles to play and succeed. The AB's won in 2011 and 2015. In 2011 the score was 7-8, was that an exciting game? You do touch on one important thing. The goal in rugby is to score tries. It is funny though how most new laws seems to benifit the defensive team. You can't score against the base of the goalpost anymore, one for the defensive team. If the ball is held up over the try line the defensive team gets a goalline dropout, one more for the defensive team. The scrumhalf is told at rucks to play the ball even if his attack is nkt set, another one for the defensive team. Now they take a attacking opportunity away. The setpiece is not just a way to start the game. It gives the one team an advantage, or is suppose to, because the other team made a mistake. Most teams will take a scrum at freekicks and not a quick tap or kick because a scrum takes eight defenders out the defensive line and gives your backs more space. Even lineouts is much more than just a way to start the game. So many attacking plays senter around scrums and lineouts.

It may be time for the Southern Hemisphere to break away from "world" rugby.

@gedsimpson9854

28 күн бұрын

That won't work, the big money isn't in the southern hemisphere

By all means, give a free kick at scrums. But change the position from where the free kick is taken. It should be taken where the 9 has the ball in hand, so it can be taken at pace. That will stop the teams looking to opt for the free kick

I thought the scrum rule was only on trial in minor leagues., and Bill Beaumont desperately wants a NH world cup win .

@GiuseppeGaribaldi46664

Ай бұрын

Beaumont's term ends in November this year. It's by time a Southern Hemi chap gets it. Augustin Pichot went toe to toe with Billy the last time I think it was. Word is he was very suspiciously/nefariously outvoted by the powers, just like hosting rights being bought

@dantewalters5209

Ай бұрын

Not the NH. John asshole Kirwan.

@Forest9528

Ай бұрын

His term as president is ending in November We need a south african (honestly maybe a southern guy in general) to be given the job

@Venomroos

Ай бұрын

He wants to change Union to League to spite one team. WR needs to be dissolved.

@aboubakarcornelius7296

Ай бұрын

The people who influence world rugby like the Nieu Zeelanders and British etc. are going all out to prevent South Africa from winning a third rugby world cup, no matter how unfair it is. The one thing they need to be careful about is, it might inspire the Springboks against all odds, to achieve the almost impossible. BE CAREFULL.😊😊😊😊😊😊

The scrum-rule will affect every rugby team - i can't see what the big deal is. What applies to one applies to all.If the opponent-team finds advantage from this rule,surely the Springboks and trainers can do the same. Jake White was correct in saying - don't know why he just did not say it out straight in his interview , or whatever it was, and that is that scrumming is not as safe as people would like to believe , it may be exciting to watch - the point is that it is not safe.Young players starting the game do not have their neck and shoulder muscles developed to the point where they can safely partake in this part of the game.Going back in history,a Springbok-player suffered serious injury to his neck and needed medical treatment and died if memory serves me correct.

Ethics and spirit of the game come to mind, scrums are an essential method to restart play and enjoyable part of the game, but 18 scrums in one game is just too many. If you watch a scrum from 15-20 years ago, it was over in a few seconds, ball chucked in and no penalties. SA want more scrums as they can draw penalties, that's how they won games at the WC. The games in July against Ireland where SA will have the advantage of home ground, altitude, heat, hard ground, all putting visiting teams at a disadvantage, now they are complaining about less scrums. Scrum penalties are really just fraudulent loopholes which can be viewed as unfair play, referees will penalise a team slowing play down to close out a game, Ireland lost to England in March for that exact reason, Ireland possibly lost to NZ last year as the AB's advised Wayne Barnes to watch for illegal scrummaging from Andrew Porter, resulting in 3 penalties against him, kmany international props stating after that Porter won the scrums and should not have been penalised. SA game is ultra physical, in the past players like Bakkies Botha would have employed underhand tactics to remove key opposition, multiple cameras have eliminated that to a degree. Unethical tactics should be addressed by WR and keep the game as a skilful but physical encounter.

In the old days the players would just get down and engage in a scrum and took seconds....now professional players have to be told to touch hold and engage........like a bunch of children that cant do it by themselves.

@geoffhughes225

Ай бұрын

Ahh,those halcien days when scrums were simple things

Exactly my thoughts put a bunch of bulky centers in the scrum speed fitness and more running rugby. If normal fans can think of was around that scrum law then what make world rugby think coaches wont think that way. There should be a clear line drawn between box rugby, primary school rugby going on and on as per different levels of rugby and not kill the high level such as world cups championships or tests.

It is not the best situation, but we can get through it with no problem. Good thing we have Russie; cool heads will prevail. There are still many ways to force a scrum! I think most saffas are just getting their broekies in a bunch.

Lol to U10 calling for a scrum off a mark or free kick. That’s not a thing except maybe top sides.

We will see what raasie comes up with, but then we will also know what new laws will be introduced a few months later.

Agree and get your point on how it will influence. But also that clickbait title though, one-way street

The new laws may result in further changes to allow teams to have two interchangeable squads - one for attack and one for defence.

No leave everything as it was…no shot clock! Rugby has scrums it equals the game out, one team has a good back line the other one front row…that keeps the game interesting and fair

Next rule change is no more games at altitude

@fionnmckool

Ай бұрын

Altitude a huge advantage to South Africans teams

@MariusLGerber

Ай бұрын

@@fionnmckool Paris must be at altitude. It’s all about being a team that can adapt to all circumstance

How many times has a scrum been called from a mark ? Answers on a postcard please.

@rawclipsandcrashes8413

Ай бұрын

Exactly it barely happens

I would rather they reduced the number of subs. Limiting the number of scrums changes the special character of Rugby.

A free kick being taken as a scrum from a scrum is probably used once a game if that stop winning and I’m not even Irish

Someone behind the Scene is feeding Beaumont all these new Rules to dis advantage Springboks especially,klom Naar gatte!!

I don’t think there is any need to panic. Sides will knock a ball on and there will be scrums. Besides that Rassie already has a plan on how to approach this. Of that we can be sure.

I am less of the scrum fan when one pack tries to turn the scrum to win a penalty, some countries try this non-stop. Perhaps back to the old days where if it turns we reset, make the purpose to push, not twist

I hope the Springboks get a scrum from a knock on. Opponent then gives away an intentional free-kick. Springboks then take a tap, intentionally knock the ball on. Just so the Springboks can out-scrum them. And so the cycle continues.

Any offence that gives away a free kick at a scrum the second time becomes a penalty and if the ref believes that team is doing it deliberately there should be a yellow card. All down to the refs.

In Rassie We Trust - not even a Bokke and I'm rooting for him to wreck this. How about going back to injury-only replacements via an independent Doctor ?

I have faith in our South African Rugby think tank. Instead of scrums we can just to a tap and then feed the ball to our forwards (in maul formation). The opposition will kick ( not run at our forwards) which provides us with possession again.

Someone like me watches Rugby for the scrums...... I'm pretty sure that after this test season, they'll realize their mistake

Lol thats exactly what i pisted on another podcast, there will be no more big boys Hookers,Props, locks, there will be 4 to 5 loose forwards and the rest backline players

Your argument around scrum time, and only allowing the clock to run when the scrums sets, does not make sense. The ball is dead once the referee blows the scrum, so the elapsed time from gathering and forming the scrum is also dead time. You don't gain playing time.

I'm all for seeing scrums happen faster. But removing them is a bit sad, as it's the "strongman contest", and allows a team to open up the field more. Fewer scrums for me will mean the use of more utility players who can scrum, but are more impactful around the pitch. More Deon Fourie, Marco van Staden type player's. Also possibly more pick up and go, grinding play. Also more kicking.

I'm sure Rassie already has 5 plans to counter the scrum rule

"Adapt or die". Given that mantra, the Boks have in most cases ruiled supreme. If the scrum advantage is nullified, we still have an even 'playing field' where the opposition also cannot depend on scrum prowess. The Boks will have to adapt and adapt, they will.

Why changing the scrums. Note: A player gets 1 change to make an tackle(If high or dangerous he doesn’t get another change). A plyare gets 1 change to pass the ball, if knock and/or forward pass, is call an fault and therfore he get to loss the advantange. A Kicker get 1 change to kick to the post. Why does the scrums getting another change to reset, etc. That's what is causing the delays/wasting time. The scrum must be Touch/Push/Ingauge, once without any resets, if you miss you get penalise, either by an Free kick or Penalty, and maybe even loss the advantange to put in the ball. A lot of time is also lost with the Rucks, as the Scrumhalf keeps the ball!!!

@dreammaker9642

Ай бұрын

Nonsense 😂 the scrum is going to have resets either way this rule does nothing for that really 😂 the time wasting is an issue have the refs hurry it up. That’s how it’s always been for me. Once ref is there then you must be there and ready to go. You can have some room to wiggle but then ref must say get a move on and give free kicks for teams being unreasonable. Most resets seem from free kicks, when they do happen to scrum again is just the smart option. Most resets come from the scrum collapsing or not being stable or in some cases both teams causing an offence meaning the ref can’t award either. Tight head from one team collapsed that’s a penalty but other lose head from the non collapsing team has a short bind creating an unfair contest so referee that you know. So if the ball the is available play otherwise reset. Can’t change that, it’s just how the game works ref has to interpret when to penalise and when to let the game flow. Scrum resets are just the result of that. All this rule does really is stop you from calling the mark on the mark and gaining a penalty by bullying the opposition in that scrum. I personally think that should be allowed, it’s on the sports of rugby that if you master the set piece and have the confidence to do something like that then absolutely you should be rewarded. It’s high risk high reward, you might get penalised in your 22 that’s a risk you have to run. Now does WR not want the game to be high risk and high reward as well as physical as it’s always been or they trying anything by the book to nerf SA, idk but if it’s the latter they doing a poor job at it.

This will also kill the opportunity for a lot of props to go professional.

You have to ask yourself who controls or more so who can influence or dictate to organisation's around the world. It seems far fetched however u would be surprised if you break it down

@dreammaker9642

Ай бұрын

Look at the European teams struggling and complaining 😂 there’s the answer to your question, except ironically I can see a lot of ways this law change will backfire on those teams 😂 I hope they enjoy unannounced mauls cause those are always a pleasure to stop 😂

Tell you what we can do, no scrums, no tackling except withe the feet, can’t carry the ball anymore just kick it, and too make it easier the ball can be rounds , score under posts by kicking and put a net on it so it’s easier to get the ball back . Sorted ……wait a minute ……

Don’t agree with the no scrum off a free kick rule but absolutely agree with the trial 30 sec limit to set a scrum. Waaay too much time wasted dicking around setting the scrum.

World Rugby is killing the game we all love.Rugby is a tough bloody game as it should be.We love the physically intense battle at scrums,my kid is a prop and he loves to scrum.

I hope that Rassie and the boys abuses this hell out of this loop hole to win another RWC, making world rugby look ridiculous. Boks are innovators, they will have a strategy by the first test.

What's Schoolboy Rugby without bending or getting bent as a frontrower to motivate some weight loss and become a loosey ? 🤣

Never underestimate Dok Rassie. He will come up with a surprise!

A scrum is an essential element of rugby! Why not remove the ball next?

This is all a load of rubbish. Firstly if you knock a ball on you don’t get the option of a free kick - it’s a scrum. If sides decide to infringe at scrum time to avoid a scrum and give away a free kick instead, that will only be possible twice as that infringement becoming a full blown penalty. Also the bomb squad against Ireland in the WC had no effect

If they want rugby to be a lot safer they should take away tackles not scrums

What we think does not matter. What does matter is that we can play running rugby as well. Lets show them!!!

Surely a knock on is still a scrum?

Just think SA needs to pull out of world rugby in protest.... along with those in similar position & sympathises....this is what makes rugby union ..scrums

Just lose the ball forward "accidentally" intentionally after not being able to scrum again. You will lose the feed but will be able to scrum again. 😂😂😂

I can understand why Bok fans are pee'd. I'm sure though that your coaches and players will adapt rapidly. God bless all good folk in South Africa ☘👍

Put 8 loose forwards on as your pack... When the free kicks turn into penalties... THEN we choose to scrum. You can avoid scrumming as much as you like, but when we make a mistake you're going to want to get the ball out and not give it back to us as a free kick or penalty. Trying to game this will backfire for teams...

@dreammaker9642

Ай бұрын

This will backfire way before you get penalised for repeated free kicks 😂 at least against a team like SA 😂 remember when SA mauled Japan from their half almost to the try line ? Yeah it takes a bit more skill but you get 100% do that from a free kick 😂 tap it, send it to the big boys to crash and maul. You can see it coming from miles away sans nothing you can do about it 😂 plus especially in your 22 you more likely to give away the penalty trying to stop that maul. I mean then they will ban the maul next but hey at least we’ll see some sht before that

To many rules. Keep the red card. It a 15 man game there must always be 15 players on the field. Please.

The NH really believe their own narratives about having the best teams and playing the best rugby. Now this is leading to all these changes since they cannot accept getting beaten, so naturally it has to be a problem with the rules….

@patrickchilds2987

22 күн бұрын

What has the NH got to do with this ? The new scrum law will negatively affect France, England and Ireland as well . They don’t want the new laws any more than the Boks . What NH narrative about best teams ? What are you talking about . Dont post kak blaming the NH for the new laws , you clearly haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about .

if we lost the semi-final, there would be no issue with scrumming...

The only thing to worry is ,is that the fans dont worry about this new stupit soft laws...

It's not that big a deal. We played 95% of our games without that scrum from a mark. We can still scrum when the opportunity arises.

Can’t keep a Bok down, Rassie the goat will find a way to win, regardless.

How often was the scrum chosen at a free kick? There will still be plenty scrums. Not big at all Jordan. Old news too.

I am none the wiser about the scrum rule change after this video. Delighted they banned croc rolls. I'll see if I can find out more.

starting to turn into the NFL.

At this point, Billy goat needs to retire and be replaced from WR ASAP.

No it won't.. and anyone saying this hasn't a clue what the rule changes mean .... Once in living memory someone took a scrum from a free kick.clearly not that vital to SA. Some weaker scrums might try to game the system .. ireland isn't a weak scrum If a weak scrum gives away free kick .. second time it's a penalty and they get turned 60m back down the pitch. Now I will say if they want to increase time in play ... start the clock only when the line-out is thrown or the ball is fed to the scrum.

😂 we didn't win 4 world cups because of scrums.. we won because we are better than the the rest, we adapt and change the game accordingly against every country.. we will bring in more Cheslin Colby's and stronger runners witch we have.. South African players are all over the world.. how many countries in the world cup can say that there teams are all 100% of their own country..

So we adapt, we are South African. The rest will have to catch up

Ireland is definitely benefitting from this new rule. The Springboks will have to adapt.

The problem is WR don’t realise scrums are as much a part of ball in play as throw about netball running of the ball. In fact many of us rugby fans watch purely for the scrums and lineouts. It’s the reason we utterly dislike rugby league, no scrums, no lineouts = boring and zero interest in watching. We love the scrum and lineout contest.

@ricmorris9758

Ай бұрын

They said the maul was boring too.

Bill Beaumont had to remember one thing in live and that is never ever gets biger than then job discription. By doing that you mis youre job discription and dis vaulted the sport. So the piont Billy never ever tried to get bigger thwn the sport nor the rules. Time back when the AB rule the game of rugby we as South Africans play by the rules without changing the rules. WE AS SPRINGBOKS have to overcome the rules so we would like to see the rest of the world of rugby doing the same without changing the rules. Its time Mnr.Baeumont to show us a bit of balls and guts you could own some respect but the way your handling this situation dont do good to youre ego.

Would they change if the All Black won the world up

The scrum is rugby's arm wrestle and non-rugby fans are actually more curious about it rather than just seeing people running. Watch rugby with someone who usually doesn't and seeh how they get fascinated at scrum time. All this is aimed at the Boks, seeing how running rugby fits NZL and France's style. Clear favouratism from World Rugby, and evident bitterness

Jake whites comment is silly. I thought rugby is fir all shapes and sizes. Jake white doesnt think so.

Springboks used the mark to scrum exactly ONCE! ONCE! How is this new rule affecting the Springboks?

You can give away free kick but then you get penalised if you do it again. You might ask what happens when a weaker scrum has to scrum from the 5 or 10m from the line. Honestly, with how gifted SA forwards are I’d set up a maul of the tap like they did a few times before. That would teach you that you can give away even as much as a free kick. I do think it can spice things up cause now let say you gave away the free kick but next scrum is even worse for you in terms of position and now you gotta take it. End of the day you’ll still get dominated and worse you can easily push yourself in a corner. I kinda like it though, it’s going to require more discipline to get some thing like a maul of the tap right almost every time but it’s an opportunity. Nothing they can si about it 🤷‍♂️ don’t want to scrum than fine let’s maul instead see how you fancy that 😂 I rather scrum honestly, you lose less ground

@Mikeup104

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the maul is also having a change of rules most likely. Use it will be called after 1 stop rather than 2. Will make the open field maul option quite tricky i think

@dreammaker9642

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@@Mikeup104 not really cause the call only comes when you lose momentum or don’t gain. If you do it right your player rather than landing and giving the ball is charging in. It’s a tricky thing to do to begin with and I’m sure when you have absolute units like Eben or RG it helps 😂 but when it’s done right it’s a bloody hard thing to stop without giving away a silly penalty. Plus I don’t know about you but when you see a good mail form and start moving forward there’s than instinctive panic boiling 😂 it’s a good way to get the other team scrambling but it’s easy to screw up too. Another option I was thinking is what the bulls love to do 😂 3 pods of well eating forwards going 3 direction and it’s a game of guess who 😭 easier to prepare for but scary 5m from your line 😂 I see a French pack or springbok pack setting up like this and the voice in my head will go “chuckles Im in danger”

it was done once -

So they've nerfed the scrum boohoo. South Africa is a champion side and is far from reliant on one particular facet of the game. Or are you saying they are? Now if they took out the scrum or made it the joke it is in league then we'd have fundamental problems with the game but as it stands taking it out of the free kicks will have little impact on the game.

You can only give away 1 free kick after that its penalties

World rugby will do anything to stop springboks from winning another world cup.

Soutu Africa will adapt to any rule changes, thry always have

@geoffhughes225

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I'm thinking all teams will adapt.people armhole vaulting over chicken shit here.these new laws won't effect the game at all

South Africa will win regardless. They have depth

We used it once. Clickbait title!

Maybe the southern hemisphere teams should just create its own league. Leave our scrums alone !

I think content creators are milking the controversies rather than shedding light. All teams play to the same rules. Any rule change impacts all teams the same. Coaches will adapt. If scrums are depowered to the point they are useless, expect 8x kwagga smith ... we have the depth to play what ever variance comes along. Ireland doesn't have thecreputation for powerful forewards but if you think Ireland pack is weak you best go watch again.

Rules wont be in effect yet

WR only want to see a northern Hemisphere team win🤣