If you haven't already, please join the official discord to give the devs your feedback discord.gg/polytopia

SWORDSMAID I CANT

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Swordsman -> Swordsmaid

@Max-vu2uo

Ай бұрын

they made polytopia woke?!?!? 😂

@kusolp544

Ай бұрын

@@Max-vu2uo maids are just supreme

@piercelawless2654

Ай бұрын

​@@Max-vu2uo touch grass

@WhoTookQuwhu

Ай бұрын

@@Max-vu2uo Polytopia has always been "woke" dummy

We got Aqaurion Beta before GTA 6

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

So glad the Aquarion rework is here. Hopefully that means the Ancients are next…

@Nightcore_Zn

Ай бұрын

​@polychampions I think cymanti will get a rework too and then they will launch a new tribe. (If they nerf cymanti I will play this game my whole damn life)

@kalinmarcov5151

Ай бұрын

@@Nightcore_Zn cymanti seem wayy more balanced than this lol

@eltonwild5648

Ай бұрын

​@@polychampionsAncients would be top notch!

This is what I imagined what Aquarion was going to be when I first bought it when it came out

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Glad you hear it's what you expected. Hopefully the devs will balance this a bit more and make it really fun

@ThePolysaur

Ай бұрын

Better late than never!

The flood feature makes sense now, i really wondered why in the lore it mentions they are like sea people yet too weak and sluggish in their own tile. And i really dont get the sense of aquarion using ships so its good to get rid of them. The suggestion i want right now is to add somehing in the Marine life tech aside from the Shark. During a game sometimes its not feasible to buy a mid tier tech with only one benefit unlocked (aside for it gives you way to the final tier tech) and i feel the same way to other mid tier tech with a single benefit on it (Farming, Mining) although i have not think of any good suggestion as of now. I love the update.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Good point about the lore with flooding. If you aren't in the official Discord server yet, be sure to join and tell the devs what you think

@donsolos

Ай бұрын

No sharks will be very useful. It's just like Polaris. Very diversified attack options. Like all the other tribes. Aquarian was very pigeon holed onto water heavy maps. Now they should have some dryland viability. My problem moreso would he terrible movement over land still

As an aqua main im sooo excited for the changes flooding seems a bit slow but with all the other buff they seem really good now

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Habits use a unit to flood a tile can be a slow process. It’s not like placing a road

The Aquarion rework seems awesome. Balancing will probably be kept to a minimum (seeing how the land fill, flooding and lost city mechanics were implemented), and all in all it's great. I don't think that the catapult makes sense with the whole Aquarion vibe. If it was a turtle ship then maybe. But it wouldn't make sense being there on the tech tree then, with sawmills.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

We shall see. Balancing is tricky. Be sure to join the Discord and let the devs know your feedback

cannot wait

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

So exciting!

I wonder how they continue to come up with such a new ideas for the game. It takes a damn lot of imagination and understanding of how to balance the gameplay.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Midjiwan is a creative guy. Also they have a team of alpha testers to brainstorm and mess around with new ideas

@eltonwild5648

Ай бұрын

​@@polychampionsmidjiwan is only one guy? 😮

Aqua farms are back:D

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Hurray for aqua-crops!

Wow, that's so awesome! I hope the update comes. Im gonna be happy!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

I hope so too! So exciting

Finally Aquarion buff! Now maybe the Aquarion mains have some advantages....

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. We've been waiting for this Aquarion rework for over a year. So good it is finally here

This is really cool

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

I know, right? So cool

Wow - awesome changes! They put a lot of effort into redesign! This is why I ❤️ Polytopia!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yup. Such an exciting update. Great game :)

The Yelly Belly sound like itll be used in more specific circumstances, cant wait to see how the pros use them!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

I've heard of players finding new ways to use them, like parking them next to a city so they kill any unit the city produces

Now this tribe seems to be extremely OP

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

You think it’s too strong?

@valeriitikhonov834

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions Yep. A reason why aqua was trash tribe was its poor economy, but Tridentions without any support just were able to make a game. Now we have a lot of units additional to extra strong Tridentions, good economy and even lvl 3 cities with walls from ruins (wtf). I see this tribe as OP now

@shaun8269

Ай бұрын

​@@polychampionsNope. It feels a bit weak actually due to the lack of bombers but I'll have to play and see

@cutezebrablush5699

Ай бұрын

Bro what ​@@shaun8269

@billyhurley3945

Ай бұрын

Disagree, I've played a game with them and the economy is barely improved at all and They don't start with any tech anymore.

Man i love the new desing of the aquarion tribe!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the new design is great. Let's go mermaids!

That is 100% a jelly fish not a squid haha, love the video!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Jelly Fish. Even sounds like Yelly. Other folks have pointed that out too. I still think it looks like a giant squid. Idk...

The aquarion rework is exactly what i expect of a deep sea creature tribes: mysterious, strong and water engineering. It looks awesome. When does this beta update coming on telephone version? Can't wait to have fun!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Such a fun update. With the last beta, it started on Steam only, then got released to mobile a few days before the final release to the full game

Damn they said rework and they meant it, very excited to play some aquarion!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yup. This is a big change. Exciting

Well, I have played few games in this beta and I think units are great, but there is still something to be done on the tribe concerning two main issues: *lack of resources and movement* Here's some ideas that can improve the resource rate and economy growth: -*Once a ruin is conquered* some fishes/acqua farm spawn around it, cause up to now "ruin cities" tend to remain lvl 3 cities due to the lack of resources ocean tiles have; -*Water temples* could cost less stars for acquarion: as I said before, this could help to grow population among the many cities that dont have any (such as polaris outposts, it's 5 star for 1 population). -*Fertilize works on ocean tiles* for aqua farms (and maybe cost more, or takes two turns to fertilize the tile). -Create a proper windmill (a *seamill* ) for acqua crops could be great. Either, to improve the movement: -Roads could be reintroduced as *canals* for lands, since on land acquarions are totally weak. It could even cost 5 stars per tile (such as bridges), but right now the tribe is unplayable even just on big islands (I'm not mentioning continent or archipelago maps) -*Atols give movement bonus* on water tiles, if the intent is to improve even further the power on water tiles if "canals" are not going to be added. The entire rework of crops and mills could fit the idea of acquarion as a late game tribe, as they always have been, with poor economy at the beginning but with the capability to grow a lot in terms of population and unit spam in the late game. I really hope they make some change, the work is great, but as it stands, I don't think we are gonna see the tribe played very often.

@polychampions

29 күн бұрын

Wow. Thanks for all the thoughtful feedback If you haven't already, please join the official discord to give the devs your feedback discord.gg/polytopia

Super sweet!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Thanks :)

i played a couple game with the new aquarion and all i can say is that yelly belly, rider and tridention are the units i used the most lol

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Cool. If you haven't already, join the official discord and give the devs your feedback discord.gg/polytopia

I feel like this should make them more viable but at the very least this will make them more interesting to play and they will feel just as different as the other special.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yes, more interesting, more viable at least on the water. On land, not so much

As a long-time aquarion player this makes me so happy. Can't wait till this hits the phone version of the game!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Glad you hear you like what you see for Aquarion

Positively insane ❤

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yes, finally! Aquarion was beginning for that rework for a long time. Enjoy 😊

Aquarian is one of my favorites. This looks like a great update. Did they finally turn the defender into a turtle yet?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Such a fun tribe. The defender carries a seashell for a shield

啊啊啊啊，Aquarian终于得到重做和加强！Rule the waves, Aquarian! Attack from the deep!

@polychampions

21 күн бұрын

Aquarion changes are exciting

I thought they were jelly fish- not squids O-O

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Oh. The look like giant squids to me

@mysticcr8tor773

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions I mean "yelly belly" sounds a lot like jelly lol

I wonder how Polaris freezing interacts with flooded tiles

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Good question. Time to test it and find out

@Nightcore_Zn

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same think lol

@WhoTookQuwhu

Ай бұрын

I tried it out and it just creates a frozen and flooded tile hybrid

I was thinking that canals (that cost 5 stars) would work better for Aquarion instead of roads, but I guess flooding works as well

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Canals could work. I think the flooding is better to allow big ships, like bombers and juggernauts to fit

The Sharks are so cool

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yup. So cool

earlier than i thought cool

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Very cool

Will the ruins that create a city causes increase in tech cost? Would be a sad way to get backfired when you save up eco

@ryandeng6389

Ай бұрын

My thoughts as well, and they give only 2 stars for being a lvl 3 city, so if it does increase tech cost it seems like it would hurt economy if anything.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they increase tech costs, same as all other cities

The yelly belly would be a great unit against Polaris ice?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Good idea about Polaris ice. I'm not sure. Have to test it out

Why were aqua crops removed in the first place?

@polychampions

26 күн бұрын

Midjiwan didn't like them. Now he likes them again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jesus... A ton of chnages

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yup. It's a lot. And it will probably change more before the final release

Potentially, if Aquarion were to mind bend a knight, would that knight get the float ability?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Nope. I tested that. If an Aquarion mind bender converts are regular unit, like a swordsman or knight, it doesn't get a mermaid tail or float ability

@SebCraftGaming

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions Ah, that makes a lot of sense

Is building monuments on deep sea just for aquarion or for all tribes

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Just for Aquarion

We got the Aquarion rework before Silksong smh. I'm hyped though.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. This Aquarion rework has been a long time coming. Hopefully Ancient will come next

is there a weakness to the crabs? nothing i did to them seems to hurt them. swordsmen, catapults and ship canons barely did any damage to them.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Ranged attacks are best

@Nightcore_Zn

Ай бұрын

4 catapults can kill them in two turns

best update ever

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Glad you like it

What if a Polaris player freezes a flooded tile? Will it be considered simple land or frozen sea?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Good question. I guess we should test it

Since the path of the ocean update i thought aquarion's navy tech tree was useless because tridentions can solo and negate my opponents navy, but now i think its more useful units have float combined by movement on deep water tiles i can seige coastal cities no problem (Rn i use cloaks to help seige coastal cities and crabs while shredding enemy catapults with mass forks)

@blitzboy2934

Ай бұрын

I’m glad they’re finally leaning into the water aspect of aquarion, especially after the navy stuff got overhauled

@Nightcore_Zn

Ай бұрын

@blitzboy2934 I never used any rammer or scouts or bombers if I play with aquarion the description even says it "trains units the other tribes cannot" so I think its a great fit

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Aquarion sorely needed an update to be on parr with other tribes after Path of the Ocean. This helps a lot

Can veteran swordmaids and rammers still be rewarded from ocean ruins?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yes. I had it happen. I got two vet rammers from water ruins with Aquarion

I think all of this is balanced, except the fact they can place anything on water tiles. Should still be restricted to land tiles imo. Haven't played them yet tho.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Maybe just restrict to shallow water tiles?

Brain cannot Handle

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Aquarion overload, lol

@ThePolysaur

Ай бұрын

​@@polychampionsfor sure

Overall i think this will make aquarion weaker. Their strongest strategy will still clearly be the exact same: tridentions. However now they dont start with riding tech, so will take at least another turn to even get there. Having all base units go on water will not be able to compete with the strength of boats at all whatsoever. If im being optimistic, my hope is that sharks serve as a powerful speedy swordsman that comes earlier on the tech tree. However being on a different tech tree from tridention means they are competing with Aquarions best strat, not boosting it. I understand these big flashy changes are exciting, but im not convinced they will hold up at a high level of competitive play. All that negativity out of the way though, this looks really cool! Polytopia is the best mobile game hands down 🎉

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Tridents are still really good. The atolls are interesting though. They make the tribe more like Cymanti in some ways If you haven't already, please join the official discord to give the devs your feedback discord.gg/polytopia

Noq explain to us. How did you get to play beta on mobile

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Aquarion beta is only available on Steam for now. Usually devs release beta to mobile a few days before the full release

Aquarion, why does he use archers if he lives under the sea?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

To attack opponents who live above the sea

@Mark_BG.

Ай бұрын

​@@polychampions It just doesn't seem like a skill from someone who lived under the sea, probably in Atlantis.

I think the flood should work just like freezing with polaris

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

You mean like move and flood?

@fulopsztanev8804

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions yes like make a unit that turns the tiles flooded around himself

The aqurion really needed this but i feel them having these benefits make kickoo obsolete. Thanks for keeping this game updated 👍

@shaun8269

Ай бұрын

Nah kickoos got bombers

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

You think this affects Kickoo that much?

@ultrammkill827

Ай бұрын

@@shaun8269 yeah that’s kinda the line between them which is a good one cause bombers are very usefull

@ultrammkill827

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions I may have exaggerated but I’ll definitely be playing aquarion more. This update was needed for aquarion as they felt so bland before now they’re unique

@ultrammkill827

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions also make more skins, 1 for Cymanti too

I feel that they must buff sharks a little, maybe make them cost 7 stars instead of 8 or even 6

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Sharks are basically like rammer warriors. They could use a little something more If you haven't already, please join the official discord to give the devs your feedback discord.gg/polytopia

Wait, so the super unit is still a crab with no tweaks or changes?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

The only change to the crab is that it can creep (avoid penalties from difficulty terrain)

@MrMastrmonstr

Ай бұрын

I really cant stress this enough but with aquatism that crab is better than any juganought it can tank soooo many shots

@neutralino1905

Ай бұрын

​@@MrMastrmonstrNot only that. With 7.5 defense, its retaliation can actually kill a 15HP rammer in one go.

@tarikhk2

Ай бұрын

@@neutralino1905 oh wow. Was unaware because playing Aquarion, historically, just makes me very sad and bored lol

@tarikhk2

Ай бұрын

Actually, the word is ennui, i.e. an existential sort of boredom, where the awareness of your inevitable demise conjures feelings of intense indifference, punctuated by mild irritation

I always thought Aquarion land should be movable by both ships and land units

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Aquarion land is an odd concept

@j-train13

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions what I think could make it more interesting is maybe bombers are too big to travel across the shallow flooded terrain without running aground

SHARK SWEEP

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

The sharks look really cool, even if they are basically warrior rammers

@ilikepugs3552

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions Worse rammers in everyway but they look cool as fuck

@blitzboy2934

Ай бұрын

@@ilikepugs3552how are they worse rammers? Aren’t swordsmen one of the strongest units to put on the water?

@ilikepugs3552

Ай бұрын

@@blitzboy2934 Sharks are worse rammers.... they have less health then a defender rammer while being the same cost lol

@blitzboy2934

Ай бұрын

@@ilikepugs3552 something tells me that the sharks aren’t exactly supposed to be on the tankier side

Very good news ! Can you check my commenr on the kickoo strategy guide because I'm lost with the trade routes mechanics with ports

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. I’m going to find a good explanation to copy paste in the Kickoo guide. I have it at home

When will update out for mobile?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

It is hard to say when beta will come to mobile or the full game. In the past, the devs put updates on mobile a few days before full release. For now, Aquarion rework is only in Steam.

@efeoynuyor6040

Ай бұрын

Thanks

But... can you flood ice?!?!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Good question. Needs testing

Can you freeze wetlands?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

I have no idea. Time to check

@GemmyDeery

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions what happen

The mermaid tail looks weird, maybe if they made it more like it was actually part of the unit it would be nice. Idea that can help development.

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

How would you make the tail more part of the unit?

@Mark_BG.

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions Maybe adding lighter "pink" tones. On top and in the shadow so that it doesn't look too dark.

@Mark_BG.

Ай бұрын

@@polychampionsI want to make it clear that it is just an idea that I have that you can take into account, perhaps removing 1 or 2 scales.

Currently looking for people to play this with

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Come to our discord server! It’s the perfect place to find multiplayer opponents

super cool that the rework is done; aq eco really sucks now; some changes are also needed to resource spawn rates; i love that all units are made amphibious; mixed feelings about flooding for sharks cause it is really weird that sharks can cross flooded areas; so it feels not logical that such heavy unit can cross these areas; cause if other factions land units can cross flooded areas then its more like a puddle, so a place where sharks couldn't swim cause its not deep enough; so this issue is more about congruency and aestetics, im not talking about the mechanics balance here; maybe it would make more eastetic sense and as well as being cooler to make sharks have "hide" skill just like the Cloaks, but then not be able to move on flooded areas; then they are the true kings of the ocean; i dont think it would make sharks OP but maybe increasing cost to 10 stars would make sense; and also give them "blind" skill which means they cannot see more than 1 square in the unknown direction they move (so a regular unit uncovers all squars in fog of war, while shark would uncover just 1) - so this would be kinda like the reverse of "scout" skill that Cloaks have and this way sharks cannot really be used to uncover unknown areas

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yup. So many interesting stuff going on. I think the atolls help the eco some, they are less expensive than ports. Also being able to build on water tiles gives more real estate for improvements. Still not a super strong eco tribe though

@johngreen2468

Ай бұрын

​@@polychampions surprised they are not planning any resources changes as they are the worst of all tribes (along with vengir); cymanti is soo stacked with 2x spores guaranteed in capital - thats so unfair in multiplayer; I feel water farms should work with windmills; and not starting with any tech is a bad choice; it would make sense if they just start with the new fishing so they can explore better since they dont even have the starting amphibian any more if you consider that rework has worse early exploration without amphibian opening + same bad resources as before + no starting tech, then all these changes may go for nothing as aq will simply not survive long enough to use any of the new stuff; heh in this light it actually seems this rework is a nerf of aq :D

So sad the shield mermaids aren't called shieldmaid 😭

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Shieldmaid would be fun. have you mentioned that to the devs? If you haven't already, please join the official discord to give the devs your feedback discord.gg/polytopia

as someone who's favourite tribe was aquarion, even long before they got any updates and frankly sucked massively to play I can't believe we live in the world where they're finally being given the love that cymanti and polaris got as a special tribe also why did they feel the need to nerf aquarion riders and tridentions even more??

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. This update puts Aquarion more on par with other special tribes. The riders and tridentions only got nerfed a little by losing the fortify

ain't no way they gave them a starting tech and then TOOK IT AWAY AGAIN 😭😭

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah. I hear you. I liked that Aquarion started with an amphibian

Strategy 1 from this aquarion beta Go full on organizational then upgrade cities with farms and windmills and harass opponents with cloaks and some side naval units (old crazy bot move ik) Strategy 2: go on a water world or archipelago game and spam sharks and the squid like a crazy bot that spams cloaks and hope you overrun them with numbers (like in history if you know you know) Strategy 3 spam Swordmaids😂(I can't stop laughing at this).

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Good ideas. It depends on the map type of course. Lik,e with archipelago or water world, farms and windmills won't be worth it

no way

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

I know, right!

Can you work on the breathing sound and make the audio less Asmr like?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

okay

yes!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Hurray :)

Maybe make sharks chain like Navalons👉👈

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Chain shark might be too much

@SemKeemink

Ай бұрын

Real​@@polychampions

@josiahserrano6651

Ай бұрын

​@@polychampions increasing price would balance it

@aadityamistry698

Ай бұрын

Instead of yelly belly we need Navalons

@RaiNBowShine999

Ай бұрын

@@polychampions ok hear me out, Switch Tridentions and Sharks in the tech tree. Tridentions are now the scouts of Aquarion of course you reduce their damage a bit. Sharks are now the Knights of Aquarion and they chain.

Its going to mobiles

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

For now, the Aquarion update is only in Beta on Steam. The devs usually send it to mobile beta a few days before the full release

@INGOTjustaradomname

Ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6Zkk8GGlK-wmtI.htmlsi=NhUzfBcamev02KX0

Aquarion, in the beta, is becoming too strong, fortunately it does not affect the earth. No?

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Yeah, embrace the ocean aspect of Aquarion

Now... They need to nerf Cymanti!

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Cymanti is okay. I would rather the devs work on the Ancients

@WhoTookQuwhu

Ай бұрын

Cymanti rework is coming eventually

Oh my god so sexy😩😩😩 wait, why am i simping for pixels-

@polychampions

29 күн бұрын

Mermaids are pretty great

Its creative, but they still look really weak tbh

@polychampions

Ай бұрын

Time to test it out and send feedback to the devs