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Spear shot gonna hit rank 1🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🗿

@bloos7406

25 күн бұрын

now he in korea, the w scales with enemy bonus health. boy oh boy ksangae bout to cry

@kuokkamdamha1691

25 күн бұрын

@@bloos7406how is w scaling with enemy bonus health I thought it scaled with his bonus health

@mydor123451

25 күн бұрын

Bro keeps complaining about how broken his champion is, so riot said "oh yeah?? check this out" to prove him it can get worse

@stray6770

23 күн бұрын

@@kuokkamdamha1691 it does % health damage

@feitopuns

23 күн бұрын

with this buff he cant even play pantheon for this patch

spear shot gonna go crazy with this one

@Blu_Moon_Owl

25 күн бұрын

Was thinking about him too and how he’ll react to it

@classick3064

25 күн бұрын

He's going from a lunatic to a complete psychopath soon enough

wtf is riot cooking

@einjharrelraca

25 күн бұрын

meth clearly.

@vanjamenadzer

24 күн бұрын

Whatever it is, finally... I've been playing since covid and maining Panth 6 months into the game. Now, allow us to ward jump, at least on enemy wards.

@revendax2584

23 күн бұрын

​@@einjharrelracasome really potent meth

@Fj-OuterSans

23 күн бұрын

Time to cook up a full ap panth build

@altide8784

23 күн бұрын

@@vanjamenadzer Pantheon already strong...

%HP dmg, %armor pen, crits when enemies bellow 20%hp, free AR/MR Oh boy! I smell a balance nightmare!

@vanjamenadzer

24 күн бұрын

I just hope he doesn't get nerfed into oblivion. He's currently at a very nice state.

Looks like they're trying to push him into more of a bruiser/frontliner role and steer him away from assassin builds, with some ability to still play in the late game if you can't flash one-shot someone. Good changes. Personally I'd prefer he just got armour and MR after using any empowered ability, but w/e.

@gilsercrow3590

25 күн бұрын

None of these changes are making assassin worse tho. They're all making assassin as well as bruiser better. Pantheon was already building a decent amount of hp anyways so these are just direct buffs.

@kauanjos3199

25 күн бұрын

Hybrid assassin and bruiser pantheon is gonna go crazy

@uros7320

25 күн бұрын

how is giving him more damage and sacrificing nothing in return and giving him more tankiness making him a better frontline, he is just tankier by default so ofc he can get away with a squishier build now. that is why bard for example builds full tank, because he does a lot of damage with his base stats already, and the opposite is now true for pantheon, he is tankier now than he was and now he can get away with an even squishier build

@hyun_is_happy

25 күн бұрын

Pantheon already has an already all in kit esp with the current meta, the q ap scaling is gunna do Jack shit, w allows more consistent dmg and the e changes let him tank for hits after he uses his full combo, you can’t rly complain abt him one shotting with assassin builds and tbh these changes will only increase is pick rate

@uros7320

25 күн бұрын

@hyun_is_happy you could argue that he can buy a darkseal so that his q does a bit more damage and he does s bit more dmg with w. not a bad investment considering jts only 350g. idk the numbers on the abilities tho, so it might not be worth to buy at all but still

spear gonna ask for nerfs unironicly now🗣️

It looks like health slots are finally paying off. Riot apparently really wants to see Pantheon paired with the Bruisers. Although his skill set is more like an assassin. Percentage damage... And BotRK is not going anywhere, it is too profitable an acquisition, giving the opportunity to produce the maximum number of on-hit effects with W.

0:21 People always get confused when they add ap ratios like that but they forget that enchanters can give them sofw buff wich helps a lot.

@kingpikachuthethird

24 күн бұрын

Yup and baron buff (which I know was mentioned in the video but people forget about it too)

@alexanderhamilton4258

3 күн бұрын

Also, the ult spear uses the same calculation as his normal thrown spear, so now the area and the spear on ult have AP scaling

The thrown spear is what the ult uses for it's damage scaling on the spear. That's why the AP was added

Also these changes really help him as a support where he’s a lot more likely to hold his charges and have them for things like dive plays.

There are a lot of items pantheon already builds with bonus health, things like shojin or whatever the lance is called. The e changes synergize well with both those items.

I know their trying to make him more of a bruiser, but I can see this backfiring in so many ways since they didn't reduce any damage at all.

I just played a Pantheon game top for the second time after his rework. I'm gonna have to say that he doesn't need any buffs. I was spamming my Q on the enemy Yorick for 5 minutes and I still had 70% mana. He doesn't need any changes or buffs. Unless it's to increase the mana cost of his Q.

@h1de2m33

25 күн бұрын

You beat up the most useless champion in the game for the first 5 minutes of the game, for 5 minutes. I don't think this is an accurate representation of power level.

@ElNahu111

25 күн бұрын

As a pantheon main i can tell you, you win lane and loose the game pretty often. He is great at lane bulling but if the enemy gets ahead of you, you basically have to play support the rest of the game. Is not a bad playstile but te majority of people dont get the support late memo and they still try to one shot someone in vain and throw the game, myself included.

@sofamagenta3141

25 күн бұрын

​@@h1de2m33the most usseles champ in the game 😂 he has the best winrate in top currently

@Yokai_Yuri

25 күн бұрын

Don't cry, little Yasuo main​@@sofamagenta3141

@lucasguerreiro7094

24 күн бұрын

@@sofamagenta3141 " first 5 minutes of the game, for 5 minutes."

hey thanks for making these

Sterak's gage would be an insane item with the new w and e

ah yes that is real aspect of war now

"challenger duo" you mean boosting? The thing riot bans accounts for? XD

as a person who's been off-meta picking ghost-flash lethality pantheon support vs double adc botlanes for 2 patches this has me rock hard

Is this on the new patch that come today or this is on PBE that comes next patch?

I wonder why though, thats like giving urgot ap scaling, but only on his q slow.

Just in time for the second Korean Spear Shot arc

48 seconds ago is crazy

phreak strikes again we all know he is gonna abuse this shit when he is playing

heartsteel pantheon may now be a thing? and with the new hp to ad item, we may have some tanky things 🤔

spear shot getting plot buff for korea climb

hell yeah mah man getting a good ass buff

We cooking in two ways, magically seasoned or the gym

Heartsteel Pantheon is gonna be wild

Well, time for Ozlu to revist full AP Panth

ap pantheon will be nuts

Here comes Baus AP Pantheon

So they just removed his only weakness into the late game? So now pant will be both strong early and scale into monster late game,bruh

THANK YOU KEEGUN!!!!!!!!

Tnx to the keegun who suggested that these buffs on main pantheon discord ❤

They actually made him a bruiser instead of a thicc lethality guy

Holyyyy this is great!!!

YES! AP bruiser builds are back And I don't have to play morde for it

A Glorious Guide on How to Play AP Pantheon by Darkkmane is finally relevant again.

Bro… the long spear

HOLY SHIT THEY TURNING HIM INTO A BRUISER

Good, ive been playing bruiser Pantheon and it felt so weak a little bit more tankiness should give pantheon the push he needs to his actual meant roll which is a toplane bruiser/fighter not assassin which what he is more of rn.

@nerdygrandpa

24 күн бұрын

I mean pantheon is a diver so it makes sense for him to be played like an assassin

What in the riot

THIS IS SPARTA !

Ap pantheon is back 🔥🔥🔥( ult into q = 🔥🔥🔥

"Balanced, healthy for game, yep riot don't nerf pantheon he's definitely fine" - Spear Shot

Panth needed this kind of change after the item nerfs so let's hope they don't revert these changes...

Giving HP dmg scaling to a champ who has built in armor pen is gonna be a disaster.

I wanan know why sometimes the percentages added to abilities makes sense, and why sometimes they add 0.0 to them. Cause that 0.015 on the new W should basically be 1.5%, that bonus health should be .4%. They want to make him a bruiser and viable vs other bruisers and tanks, simple as that. He's not really being played top.

@Motlekai

22 күн бұрын

It's 0.015 is because its exactly that. It's not 1.5. 0.015% of 200 is 0.03 1.5% of 200 is 3

Tank panth is the new meta now 😂😂

They pretty much just took Pantheon from Remix Rumble and slapped him in the Rift.

Now pantheon is pick ban

Well im hitting diamond now

10% on w build bork and eclipse 25% dmg on w first auto lol

So after being immortal he's unkillable, wow the counter play with max health and ap damage too cool bro

@vanjamenadzer

19 күн бұрын

If they only gave him sustain after empowered E, this alone would be a great QoL change. Also, if they don't fix W bug when enemy is close to a wall, then at least this empowered E effect will save me from turret shots.

*Cough* power creep

yi changes?

Mooving on anywhooose?

Bruiser Pantheon? My troll build will finally not be troll anymore :D

@vanjamenadzer

24 күн бұрын

Bruiser Panth a troll build? It's better than assassin build. In fact, assassin is troll build.

@alaapanga3640

21 күн бұрын

both are shit ap panth is the best build r + w one shot​@@vanjamenadzer

@vanjamenadzer

21 күн бұрын

@@alaapanga3640 Scales too slow and is useless for most part of the game.

Pantheon mid is now op tier, good luck trying to kill him with an assasin or mage with the E change.

RIGHT! ANYWHOOS MOVIN ON!

Ill never forgive riot for changing pantheon he was the best

Hybrid Tank Panth???

I not wanna this i wanna a anti shield or cut heal

I feel like these buffs/changes should be slightly weaker than what they are. They should be there to help pantheon not hurt everyone else. That said. I think its a step in the right direction. I would personally lower the %hp dmg and also lower the gained armor and mres %. maybe by half in both areas.

Now why in the hell...

Holy I hate that add at the end

why tf would they buff his E when he already reduces dmg on it......

@Motlekai

22 күн бұрын

It's the empowered version. It used to increase in duration when empowered but they removed that and now it's just resistances.

pantheon's E grants more armor/MR than shyvanna's passive

@xeathblank3125

24 күн бұрын

shyvana doesn't have a passive whatchu talkin about, just like Morgana no passive

@santi3256

24 күн бұрын

This is soo sad

nice to see my boy pantheon getting some love

that's a straight up boosting sponsor ain't it

he didnt need this trust me.. boys only mid in the mid game ironically, but then late game hes a problem again

jesus rito, why giving every thing max % hp dmg scaling and at the same time giving hp everywhere..300 of combined dev exp, so now Sparta will be even more OP

wtf is riot cooking lmfao

You loose A LOT of early game damage on your w for lategame.I think pantheon winrate will fall a bit.

oh yay. even MORE %hp damage being jammed into the fucking game. Im calling it. Building hp is now grevifing your team. you are unironically just healing the enemy more if you build any hp now. turbo buffing pantheon support. yaaaaaaaaay -.-

I am now sure that riot purposely keeps "support" champions bad, and lets just make everything scale with max health at this point

W being anti-tank is ridiculous. Especially cuz it can get really low cooldowns with certain builds. Oh man Tanks are about to hate this one lmao. Spearshot rank 1.

Trying to get rid of assassin panth

@paulvarus859

23 күн бұрын

They left the damage and now made him even harder to kill. Not a wise change imo.

FOR THE FIRST TIME... THANK YOU RIOT GAMES

okay WHAT?

it's new split, not season

FINALLY. Riot finally understand that pantheon MUST be an bruiser, and not cringy assassin that doesn't scale into late game. Poor man got his last buff around year ago and it was just jungle pantheon micro buff

@paulvarus859

23 күн бұрын

They should've nerfed his damage then. he's annoying as he is.

@alexanderhamilton4258

3 күн бұрын

For a character whose whole thing is fighting until the end, he sure does like to run away a lot. Hopefully this helps him fulfill his lore better in gameplay.

Are you GIVING A 40% ARMOR PEN CHAMP A MAX HEALTH% DAMAGE ABILITY? Alr Riot whatever i guess.

They're making him a top laner again

@alaapanga3640

21 күн бұрын

finally i hate the fact that they made my main a cheat support and a mid laner he was already a strong top laner and did need a very small buff this is way too much

@octoflex

21 күн бұрын

@@alaapanga3640 It's riot. They couldn't balance a cube on a flat surface what do you expect

Anywhos... moving on

Can we stop giving HP%/true damage TO EVERY CHAMP

Decent change , now you need to actually think what empowered ability is the best , before it was just W Q W Q

@uros7320

25 күн бұрын

no you dont have to think, you can play him as you did before, with bo downsides, thinking just makes the champ even stronger. i dont understand why did they buff the most braindead champ in the game and all 3 abilities at that lol

@chaotixthefox

25 күн бұрын

Thinking there was no place for Emp E is a sign of an insufficiently skilled Panth player

@santi3256

24 күн бұрын

It will probably still be like that.

@alejandromolinacriado6039

23 күн бұрын

​@@uros7320 Someone has been beaten by a panth recently

@uros7320

23 күн бұрын

@@alejandromolinacriado6039 no, i have been dodging games where im vs pantheon in lane for 4 seasons now

Nice change. So, could we buff Poppy now? She's been a junk since... a lot of seasons now.

Nice buffing a c_ancer champion

Finally, this Spartan god warrior is gonna win fights like he should.

Thanks riot for taking a champion that is already strong and buffing it, will enjoy not being able to pick it anymore!

At this point the "solution" to buff or change champions are giving AP ratios to AD champs lmao..

But like why?

spear shot comment

As a Panth main buffs were long overdue. Dude is sitting on a 47% winrate right now, which is horrendous for a relatively easy champ like Panth.

Real pantheon mains (above emerald)know this is a nerf.You nerf a snowball champions early for his mid - late game.I bet his winrate will fall,unless they add +10 flat damage to w or e.

@auuuuugh5859

23 күн бұрын

Finally someone says it. These changes are a nerf to both his early and mid because he doesn't gain anything damage wise from building straight bonus HP which is why he's never done it. Even though the stun damage gets increased later, by the time the nerf turns into a buff everyone you would need it against already has armor. E changes are useless because he can't fight without empowered abilities so you never actually use the bonus resistances when contesting mid combat since you'll either be cc'd for half or all of the duration, or running away while slightly tankier. People gonna try fighting while the E is down and tank his winrate lol.

@alexanderhamilton4258

3 күн бұрын

​@@auuuuugh5859You have to have 1200 bhp by level 8 for it to start evening out, assuming you're not upgrading W first, iirc. Definitely a nerf early and mid for a better late game.

@auuuuugh5859

3 күн бұрын

@@alexanderhamilton4258 This also must account for the max health and armor of the opponent. As it shakes out, even in the best cases, Panth gets around a little over 200 more post mitigation damage on the W stun against champions with 5k max HP (essentially tanks), assuming you already stacked cleaver on them. Against many opponents the W damage never turns into a buff. But Pantheons winrate went from 48% to 49% just from rune changes before the buffs, and then we landed at 50% now, but its not from the so called "buffs" but rather because of other champions getting nerfed, more rune changes, and Cleaver being buffed. While we can say his bruiser build has a "better" late game, the bar was already so abysmally low before that its not really saying much, especially now that you get shoehorned into HP items so much now that you can't even have DD, GA and MAW in the same build anymore. Meh.

W change is actually a nerf until you reach certain amount of items but with his E giving now bonus resistant stats it's not a bad trade, it helps in situations which you go deep into back line with ulti to survive longer or successfully dip out of a bad spot. Regardless i doubt this will significantly boost his win rate in higher elo.

@kilivanjg2813

22 күн бұрын

You have not seen spearshot

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Rare riot W?