Well that's quite an interesting change, let me know what you think about this his new passive! 😺 Sorry for being afk for a week, Gogo's passing has hit me quite hard, if you want to know more check my latest community tab post. Here's the Reddit post with the math: www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cs2ts5/pbe_datamine_2024_may_14_patch_1411_ornn_upgrades/

@kreeperkiller4423

Ай бұрын

:3

@MrTruth2410

Ай бұрын

very nice update, never liked new names on Ornn items, very confusing

@SkinShowcase-zm3rs

Ай бұрын

Thx for the video. Amazing work.

@thatpolish_pierogiguy

Ай бұрын

WHAT IS THAT CODE ON THE ANVIL?????

@JntAlFrdos

Ай бұрын

Hope they upgrade Singed he is too old

what bro the names was the coolest shit like how opportunity becomes certainty thats fkn hard asf

@ABStriker

Ай бұрын

unspoken parasite for jaksho was sick asf

@keeychi

Ай бұрын

@@ABStriker leviathan and syzygy was cold af too

@theoverlander4579

Ай бұрын

seething sorrow went hard

@King-jc7xy

Ай бұрын

Death Crown too

@boingopatas

Ай бұрын

they coming back, just later on

it's sad that they deleted the cool names

@dogeo6052

Ай бұрын

They didn't delete the names, they're not creative anymore that's all😂

@MilesProwerUA

Ай бұрын

A multi billion company can't find anyone to write them 50 lines of text

@connormckinley6714

Ай бұрын

It was probably because adding that many items with unique names would cause a programming issue. Names are really important in coding and in a game as old and spaghetti ridden as league, adding in like 60 named entities that probably have to get inefficiently referenced by like 30 different systems would probably take a lot of bugfixing. Programming Ornn to add the word masterwork to the end and increase the stats is probably easier (somehow).

@Lucifer-bt1yn

Ай бұрын

@@connormckinley6714 but they added names to objects as an improvement to the ornn

@henryirvine7964

Ай бұрын

I like them removing the names, it makes things less confusing when looking up items on the wiki and in the client

Gonna miss the "The Unspoken Parasite" aka upgraded "Jak' Sho, The Protean". I absolutely loved the lore and what it spurred in my imagination! I hope they will reconsider this change. EDIT: Thank you for the likes friends. I still hope they do not go forward with the change. Just found a Ornn quote which speaks to this situation. "The weapons I forge do not have names. They have ambitions." -Orrn

If only Riot gave all items new names when upgraded it would have been perfect. Overall still a great buff for Ornn.

@zat1245

Ай бұрын

Too much work. You’d have to do it for every future item too.

@Blu_Moon_Owl

Ай бұрын

@@zat1245 is just changing the name, how hard is that really?

@Duby-rv7bx

Ай бұрын

@@Blu_Moon_Owlvery hard cause of item id’s getting fucked up

@peterpop-off

Ай бұрын

​@@Duby-rv7bx pfp checks out ✅

@PokeRedstone

Ай бұрын

@@zat1245 yeah but future items will only be 1 to *maybe* 5 at a time. it's a relatively small extension of the thematic process they already go through on new items. the upfront work is the far more limiting factor

while i welcome this change, im gonna miss seeing people have Syzygy in their inventories

i really happy with this change, it makes Ornn more "the best Forger", and it fix a really big problem, some items dint have a evolved version and forcing you buy a item can evolve its really problematic, the name was really cool but EVERY item has a upgraded version its even better, I don't know why some people doesn't like this change but idc :p

@ThreeFacedLiar

Ай бұрын

If only people in soloQ weren't ignoring upgrades altogether... Like almost every match, it's sickening

@briceleblanc268

Ай бұрын

ye its like they have to consider the champion exist

ornn giving void staff 50 ap is wild

@Megaman-2407

Ай бұрын

By the time you get void staff 50 ap is nothing you need the magic pen more

@mexicantakeout2192

Ай бұрын

@@Megaman-2407 50 ap on top of raba is more then u think

@anargument1192

Ай бұрын

@@Megaman-2407 50 ap on void staff is insane ngl.

I think the reason they don't change the name anymore is because they are lazy updating the names every time they rework the entire item system every 5 months.

Honestly your ally should just have a selection menu like Neeko and Kindred passives that lets you pick an item when Ornn “upgrades” you

Honestly great change and buff for Ornn TBH as now he consistent value. The names being lost is sad but I think its for the better ✨

surely they can make the upgrades like how the support item is, when ornn comes to upgrade your item a list of items pops up above your item hud and you can select which one

You can finally control what item gets upgraded? Epic, but so long overdue...

@RobotboyX2

Ай бұрын

u were always able to control what item to upgrade, just less options before

@cauecarvalho6996

Ай бұрын

@@RobotboyX2 how

@XLR82010

Ай бұрын

The upgrade always hits the first slot, for both Ornn and his teammates, its always been like this. ​@cauecarvalho6996

@RobotboyX2

Ай бұрын

@@cauecarvalho6996 it upgrades the first viable item from top left to bottom right, been like this since release but as ornn players it feels like 99.9% don't know this and then complain when they get the wrong thing even though I tried to tell them in chat

@DrAwes0m0

Ай бұрын

​@@RobotboyX2 bro league players have no reading comprehension 😂

Thanks for making videos again even though it's a though time for you atm. It's good to see you back!

it was always the first slot item avaliable (meaning if you got 2 that are avaliable for upgrade, it upgraded the 1st one on the inv list, even if it was in 2/3/4th position)

2 questions 1- I understand them not wanting to put new names on the now upgradedable itens cuz its kinda of a lot, but are they gonna remove the old ones? 2- the upgrades available on the itens right now are also around 1000g in value?

@where_is_sauce

Ай бұрын

1 don't know 2 yes they are

@omegalongdong

Ай бұрын

about ~1000 gold for his upgrades. It's fair enough considering his kit is weaker than other teamfighting tanks.

@user-uv3nq1xu3l

Ай бұрын

As an ornn main I heavily disagree ​@@omegalongdong

@anargument1192

Ай бұрын

@@omegalongdong that's extremely untrue he has better teamfight than 75% of tanks

Great change, sucks to see names go but this is for a healthier game, ggwp

may your friend rest in peace 🕊

I will miss the names. I got hyped each patch to see what new epic name each one would have

it would be amazing if we could choose manually which item to upgrade on each teammate. and instead of walking up to them maybe they can make the UI like neeko passive. if you team is trolling with their builds you could secretly push more incentive onto what you think is the correct direction by upgrading crit or attack speed or armour. and technically its still an improvement because they wouldnt have any of this if you hadnt played ornn. thats a change that will make me want to play Ornn way way more.

Nooo the names were so cool. Especially the best item in the game which i always bought on ornn. The goddamn LEVIATHAN

Rabadon's Deathcrown IS the cool name... Sad main Veigar...

They really looked at the bunch of Artifact items added to TFT and said "Hey, what if LoL Ornn could have an arsenal of upgradeable items that is also just as big?" huh?

NOOOOO THE COOL NAMES

I would dramatically change Ornn's passive to be this: Ornn earns 50% of his gold as a special interest only usable in Masterworking items. At any point in the match, Ornn can buy the "Anvil" item from the shop for 0 gold; Similar to Kalista's black spear. When Ornn uses the item, an Anvil appears in the selected location near Ornn. While the Anvil exists, Ornn and his allies can interact with the Anvil, opening up a window where they can drag an item to be Masterworked. To Masterwork the item, Ornn and his ally must have a total gold value equivalent to half the shop price of the item. The first Masterwork per champion, including Ornn is free. When Ornn moves too far from the Anvil, it will return to the shop ready to be repurchased for 0 gold. For his allies, Ornn can only use his special interest value to assist in funding their Masterworks, and not his real personal gold value. For every Masterwork created during the match, Ornn's skill improves, further amplifying future Masterworks by 5%, up to a maximum of 150% on the 30th Masterwork. Both players must accept to spend the gold to make the Masterwork.

@anargument1192

Ай бұрын

we're not playing dota here

Ngl that void staff masterwork would be the only reason id take it over cryptbloom. That 50 extra ap from an upgrade would be huge if I need selfish dmg

I miss the “Icathia’s curse” when upgarded from “Riftmaker”

Masterworks all you can’t go wrong…aside from the names.

I just with the passive wasn’t gated by level so support Ornn could finally be a real thing

From Eclipse to Syzygy, that shit goes hard. I'll miss it

Feel like he should be able to pick what item he wants, you kinda can by slotting it first manually but that is so specific most people wont notice or pay attention. I think it should be a free upgrade in the store when they base.

I'm sorry about gogo

I remember this mechanic from years ago

This is good for me, especially when my Ezreals are not buying upgradables...

So the best awnser is to get the most expensive legendary with the less amount of different stats lik IE wich has damage and crit% and rabadons wich has ap so they are the best choices

Imagine if you could click a thing say while you’re near an allied structure and you can “set up shop” where other champions could click you to open a little ui where they actually *pay you* for their own upgrades. Like you gain 500 gold for every item they upgrade. (They still spend the 1000) Or like while ornn is not in combat other champions can use the “shop” through him. Say the jungler finishes just first clear up to top, rather than recall if they still have mana/ health then they can “request” ornn to make an item where he can go through his normal like 3 second animation for each. (They’d have to request or something as forcing your teammate into a 3 second animation would be a little bad)

@anargument1192

Ай бұрын

just make it like rengar/kindred/neeko passive with your items popping up and you just have to click on the one you want to be upgraded

So lethality upgrades are removed? That was arguably the strongest part, being able to upgrade mpen and lethality for your mage/assassins

what is that code that popped up in the video for just a few frames?

I didn't know that each upgradeable item had its own unique name. I never really bothered with it except for the juicy stats that it gave me

Since ornn isn't every player on the rift they really need to make it a selection for the player getting upgraded. They already have the UI for when ornn can craft items while not in base, just make that the UI for your legendary items

is there nowhere i can see what items have what stats? like how you used to just be able to see them ingame in the shop....

They can literally just have the community name the items for them or at least keep the Og upgraded names

they’re masterworks all you can’t go wrong

Is this live on patch 14.10?

If they are too lazy to name other items, let the community do it for them, I swear everyone like the names of upgraded items

this is fucking GREAT its about time

No my enmity of masses it was so cool when it exists

Sobasically he is a huge Lineage 2 dwarf :D

I used to call The Unspoken Parasite (Jak’Sho’s upgrade) The Unspoken Rizz. With this change, the rizz will truly become unspoken (because the names are gone 😔)

Well sometimes riot employees have passion projects maybe one of them will give names sometimes in the future. Still 9.5/10 change since now you are not forced to build certain items with ornn

so when is this coming out? its currently not out

So this is for the NEXT patch, not the one that releases tomorrow?

Hopefully they add the names back eventually, otherwise this is prolly good overall

This seems cool

Keep the cool names for the love of god!

I don’t know who Gogo was but I hope you recover from their loss as best as you can at the pace it suits you best.

Imagine 1 for all orrn but they all have they’r items upgraded

when does this come?

oh damn well sucks that vengurad ruin my set up so i can't even play lol . but i am finally working on my own moba

What about lethality hello?? so we are not getting extra lethality from ornn :(?

Is this live ?

What is the code for? I watched the video within 10 minutes of release but idk what the code is for. :(

@where_is_sauce

Ай бұрын

reedeming skins and rp

Good QoL but what they need to do with Ornn is to allow him to choose the item he wants to upgrade instead of it happening automatically to the first item in slot...

Makro going to be happy

Btw Ornn cant upgrade stuff in arena no clue if its a bug or a nerf for him

why remove the names?! that was so dope

That’s huge. Now there’s guaranteed value and a player gets to choose their upgrade.

@model84

Ай бұрын

u could always choose

I LOOOVE this.

The Players should have the same UI as Ornn when he can forge items himself, but only be for upgrading an existing item. This would only pop up when you are close to Ornn and locks in the specified item so the game knows what item to upgrade, or if you don't want a specific upgrade because you don't have the item you want to upgrade yet, you could select none and Ornn doesn't get the ability to upgrade you.

@codebracker

Ай бұрын

or just add a special boarder around your first slot when ornn is in the game

So instead of few items having unique upgrades, they changed Ornn to be a stat check champ?

So upgrading void staff or rabadon is the exact same

As an ornn main I cannot wait in 1 week. For the 8 items that are gonna be the best to be upgradable and to get chat banned for arguing with my teammates that they didn’t build the best item on my bible sheet

I thought he could Upgrade every item in your inventory

Really really sad the unique names are going away but this is better for ornn going forward sadly :(

I love Ornn man

Dude omg imagine orn upgrades voidstaff its gone be gg xD

@tupacshakur5868

Ай бұрын

?

Bro Ornn is sleeper busted as fuck, idk what they’re doing man.

BRUH, ive been wondering how ornn upgrades his own items it so ive just been upgrading my dorans shield!!!

@coldvro

Ай бұрын

new lol and ornn player btw

i mean they could have kept the names while keeping the buff the same wouldnt have hurt nuthin

nooooo the names

This sucks for people who keep actives in specific slots for keybinds

0:56 As the player with the 3rd most mastery on Ornn and the player that is probably the happiest about this change in the world I strongly disagree with this suggestion. I don't want my teammates to have to do anything. What if they don't know to do the crafting UI or it confuses them? The way it is now my teammates don't have to do anything with my passive and that's for the best.

Is this change on pbe yet?

Yes pls, upgrade my boots

Ornn should get 2 upgrades like he used to before mythics was introduced.

This seems like its definitely way more balanced now that the passives stay the same, but its also a nerf to ornn himself ngl

Why is ravenous hydra is not in my mobile

rip, GoGo

what's the code at 1:31

Well this is old new passive

I guarantee you there will be an ornn bug in arena

RIP Gogo

This is a win for the winrate but a loss for my love for the champion tbh

we have won, but at what cost

Thornmail rammus upgrade (they gonna nerf it i can feel it 🗣🙏🐢)

Another wholesome pdf tank buffs unlucky!

Interesting.

Rip Gogo

When will ivern get a new passive ? :|

I am glad I do not have to pray to God the ADC will actually build something I can upgrade, I am sad the cool names are no more.