Rock is Dead? Full film: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4GgrsirhZjMmtY.html What do you think, is it still possible for a new rock band to achieve the level of fame Nirvana did?

@sword-and-shield

20 күн бұрын

Without the label, radio, and MTV push? at the level it was then? naw, neither would they have most likely. Plenty around Seattle as good or better, never did. These days so much is FREE, or very cheap to access in any genre. New rock band achieve at that level? My answer is No, the way they did. A new way? A way where the band prospers more?

Nirvana didn't emerge out of a vacuum... They represented over a decade of underground, anti-commercial music. That's what 'broke' popular music for a few years, until it also became commodified. In other words it wasn't just their music, them as a band, that makes them so important -- it's the environment and ethical framework they grew out of. So you not only have to be a great band, but also subvert the dominant music aesthetic and business model. I feel like the commenters miss this point -- they seem to think it's all about a single band and their amazing music. The Nirvana phenomenon was much more than just the band.

@toorare2live

20 күн бұрын

This. Kurt looked, dressed, and acted a lot like a lot of kids throughout the 70’s and 80’s who were stoners/punks/artists in their school. Ripped jeans and shaggy greasy hair was already kind of a thing among that community. See the movie “Over The Edge” if you want to see a lot of the inspiration for Kurt’s style and attitude, or even Judd Nelson’s character in “The Breakfast Club.” Both were films about typical American teenagers of the time and predate Grunge by quite a few years. Bands like Ramones, Black Flag, Die Kruezen, Dinosaur jr, Replacements, and Sonic Youth are good examples of bands outside of Seattle that already had that look and attitude and sound waaaaaaaay before the members of Nirvana had even met! He liked those bands and fit into that community of weirdos and did a great job writing songs that evoked feelings of alienation and championing the dreams and imaginations of the neuro atypical mind. He happened to get in with the right people at the right moment which helped bring that community to the forefront and made it cool and acceptable to be an outsider. Before that, being in that community would’ve got you shoved into a locker or a toilet lol But Nirvana was just a marketable catalyzation of a community and lifestyle that already existed in the underground and the mainstream world was ready to adopt it

@NintenDub

20 күн бұрын

Absolutely. It's the look the feel the tone. The exposure. Mtv. The interviews. Young ppls state of mind. All of that stuff. Nirvana could've come n gone in 3 months with nobody knowing if they're still around or whatnot.

@ListedMia-sm4xm

17 күн бұрын

Exactly!!!!!

@Mraquanetchris

14 күн бұрын

Add marketing and classic rock tempos and viola. The right place at the right time.

Amazing video Daniel!!! Love these Nirvana discussions

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

Thanks Jake! Cheers

Absolutely LOVING your content man!! 🙌

Love all of your work, Daniel.

@DanielSarkissian

19 күн бұрын

Thanks man!

I think nowadays the channels and boundaries are so scattered and nobodies preference comes from the same sources and order anymore so the fads are less monumental. Nirvana wasn't just a fad, it was almost like a youth movement. That type of success has popped up smaller now and again up until the mid 2000s (with Queens of the Stone Age for instance, or Muse or HIM) but they were still not as monumental and widespread. Considering that it hasn't been that way for over a decade now, I don't think it's still possible as long as we get all our info and fashion from algorithms and who you choose to follow. There's also the fact that before Nirvana people were still reminiscent of the early punk scenes and the Love Generation, having giant movements was still the way to go, it had just been quiet in the mainstream for a long time, but the amount of fans were always there. It wasn't until the breakthrough happened that the industry also believed in Nirvana and that whole underground thing. Even then it was already a lot more commercialised than it was in the 70s and 60s. I'm sure people in the late 80s were at the point like us today, will it ever happen again? Fads nowadays are called trends and posts for a reason, because they aren't there to stay, they will recycle any minute. That has a huge impact on pop music. In a way, pop doesn't really exist anymore, because whatever is popular can change so fast it doesn't classify in a category like the Beatles or Metallica did. Nowadays you can just call it 'succesfull' or 'mainstream' but the term pop is so decisive it doesn't hold up for most people, not even the mainstream followers. In a way. people are a little more sophisticated because they are more interested in their own buzz than in the popular one nowadays. And music or cinema is not the only stardom they care about any more.

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

You hit the nail on the head about the fact things don't come from the same source: Back when everything was centralized via radio/MTV, it was a lot more challenging to get noticed - however, those who did get noticed had a higher chance of getting big, because the selection pool was smaller. It's definitely a different situation now, but I'm still optimistic one day we'll see another huge band tear things up.

@MarceloDurham

20 күн бұрын

But we are still trying 😂😂😂#mfilesband

@MagnaMater2

19 күн бұрын

You're right, I doubt, it's possible. It was more School-'Tribalism' that created these bands. Everybody followed the cool-kids, and if the gang-leaders listen to a band, so will you. As a band you first needed to tour, and then being favoured by the big radio stations most young people listen too, and those are gone. And Nirvana was a teenage band, I for once didn't take it serious, back then. And exchanging casettes was a very tribal in&outgroup-thing in schools. And the most important thing to sway the female half of a class perhaps was, that Kurt Cobain looked handsome, and even the girls followed their classmates that were into punk music, because developing a crush on him, and their producer had the sense to pretty the Nevermind-songs up for the mainstream. But ever since Win 95 computers getting more accessible with highchool students most young people turned into computer-nerds, and Steve Jobs and Bill Gates turned into the new Idols of a generation. And their Net also 'helped' individual taste: you had no longer any need to spend hours waiting on the Radiostation to play your favourite song, but the music you personally wanted was only a click away, and one staring at a screen alone in a room doesn't form ingroups, and if, only virtual. For getting big as an artist these days, you need to be pushed by platorms. Like Adele - everbody listens to Adele. I wouldn't have known about her, hadn't she shown up in my next video suggestions. The decades before that was Nordic Metal and more ear-friendly opposed to it: Nightwish in Europe. I liked Nightwish, after it was played on a Gothic-night in a local dance-club, and thought this tribal/gothic/symphonic/metal was a pretty ingroup thing only for goths and pehaps the scandinavian countries - until I noted that even the EC in the early 2010's (that hadn't been that popular with school-kids for about two, three decades, being a parents/grandparents thing) had turned into a 2hour concert of Nightwish-Epigons from the farest corners of Europe. I do think Nightwish's and this tribal/gothic/symphonic/metal's fame came from their videos being exchanged on platforms in early 2000's. And I just recently realized I can't name a single 'new' American band from the 2000's on, I even lost sight of the bands I knew in the early 90's, being locked in my own ingroup 'bardcore' echo-chamber for the past 30 years.

All the skaters and hippies loved Nirvana

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

Skaters and hippies have great taste in music lol.

@grungetruck8243

20 күн бұрын

@@DanielSarkissian we did

It’s either b4 Nirvana or after whether u like em or not

I STILL LOVE KURT and listen to him regularly even have my 16 year old son and my 8 year old daughter into Kurt!!

It's about great composer more than a band. It's about Harmonies. Harmony is the core.

This is really good Daniel. I have over 200 songs I wrote. This video is inspiring me to start tracking

You guys should check out Machine Girl… similar energy and ethics but perhaps a waaaay too intense sound to break through to the mainstream 🙌

I thought Foo Fighters were.

As someone who has lived in Seattle since birth and is family friends with members of Nirvana, I have to say I get sick to my stomach when I see people take them so fucking seriously. You want a tortured soul and you want musical genius? Soundgarden is right there. Nirvana was a product of the time and a perfect shot in the dark that made a huge impression, but at the end of the day, there are other bands that made a bigger mark and there are other artists from the same time that transformed music and made a far bigger impression.

@BlenderheadX

11 күн бұрын

Naaa mate the guy wrote the most original pop rock songs that's it everyone likes it and has an edge

@barkley8285

11 күн бұрын

naah this is false. Nirvana is much more popular and revolutionary than any band of its generation by far.

I`ve had long hair and have worn flannel shirts since the early 80s. I don`t do haircuts and hate shaving too.

@joejones9520

17 күн бұрын

my toenails are so dirty i was banned from three counties

@heightenedsenses9605

16 күн бұрын

Hair is there for a reason, it's an extension of the nervous system 😮

No more MTV rotation, unless the new band appears on The Ridiculousness

@jenbunny1984

14 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

It’s like ya’ll never heard of Nickelback

@sstaners1234

20 күн бұрын

🤣

@SmokeWithMeInCT

19 күн бұрын

What about them ?

@APMTenants

19 күн бұрын

@@SmokeWithMeInCT you a Creed stan or something? Get woke

@SmokeWithMeInCT

19 күн бұрын

@@APMTenants lol🍪😂 shut up. Clearly a gen z puke

@SmokeWithMeInCT

19 күн бұрын

@@APMTenants why don’t you get real. You sound stupid as hell

They'll never be another Nirvana. The culture has changed. Kurt used to pace around his room with a guitar, oppressed by four walls, no internet. Now young musicians are constantly looking at themselves on social media. Music doesn't play the same role it once did for the youth. As Cobain himself said: "Kids don't care about rock and roll as much as they used to, as the other generations have. It's already turned into nothing but a fashion statement and an identity for kids to use as a tool for them to fuck and have a social life. At that point, I can't really see music as having any importance to a teenager, really."

could be a new band....but nothing will top NIRVANA. great video, Daniel.

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

Thanks my friend! Always good hearing from ya

@RollinStoned-bp3rf

17 күн бұрын

Alice in chains, Layne era ofcourse🎉

I really liked NIRVANA, "Bleach" was pretty good, i was a bit disapointed with "Nevermind", but it was good enough. "In utero" was kinda strange, but it was still good. Making new NIRVANA is like THE ROLLING STONES without MICK JAGGER. Just let it be,history is history,i bet Grohl and Novoselić are not into it. Life goes on....

Right now it's ken carson and nettspend

meanwhile Foo Fighter are a thing

@jenbunny1984

14 күн бұрын

Right!!! They been carrying the torch!

for another Nirvana you need a music industry that does not allow the artist's content to be stolen. are people allowed to steal Netflix? or Movies? why can they steal music? because music was a way for regular people to become famous & earn money.

bro really like your Chanel, but it seems to me that you're asking this question to the wrong bunch of people,

There will definitely be another band like Nirvana. Just a matter of time.

@ListedMia-sm4xm

17 күн бұрын

Nah

@Nathan_Bair

16 күн бұрын

@@ListedMia-sm4xm 🫵

Has he been eating at Bob burgers?

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

Who?

Ofc its possible…. kendrick lamar and frank ocean are the rockstars of today. The key is being artistic and ‘real’ and be able to speak to millions and millions of people

Give me 5 years and will be the next Nirvana!!!!!

@jakevaux

15 күн бұрын

thats what we all say :)

@masonatorgaming669

15 күн бұрын

@@jakevaux pop took over and thats all you see now days

@jakevaux

15 күн бұрын

@@masonatorgaming669 yeah bro fuck pop

@masonatorgaming669

15 күн бұрын

@@jakevaux agree 👍

@masonatorgaming669

15 күн бұрын

We need grunge!!!!

Ha, bustin Suzi out, Rockin

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

She’s great

@sword-and-shield

20 күн бұрын

@@DanielSarkissian Yeah, I haven't heard her speak on anything for a while now, made that vid gold for me. Thanks brother, keep it rockin.

@DanielSarkissian

19 күн бұрын

Appreciate it bro, cheers!

NewVana

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

🙌🏻

its me. im the thing the world is missing, but thanks to kurt i dont have to if i dont want to. that and i just dont get along with egotistic musicians. they all think theyre somethin special.

All the Bands you Named That where going to be the New Nirvana ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL SUCK THE ROOT and All Most Killed Rock from 196 to 2006

Come on Dan American's would say that lol 🤣 it was a dark time early 94 when Cobain died but then came the new cool and a cultural shift like the Beatles before them and this new music was called brit pop and the mighty Oasis !!!

@DanielSarkissian

19 күн бұрын

Hahaha hey fair enough! Hope all's well Rich, good luck in the Euros this year

@Lutonian79992

19 күн бұрын

@@DanielSarkissian cheers Danny hope you and yours are doing well , and C'mon England 🦁🦁🦁 lol 🤣 hope we meet France in the final mate 👍

@Lutonian79992

19 күн бұрын

Danny do you watch the Copa America??

гнилой район топ в стиле нирваны

you seem to rehash old videos, ive seen this one before🤬

@DanielSarkissian

20 күн бұрын

Hey, no I include new interviews on previous subjects as I get more footage over time. Some of these interviews here are in different videos.

@sword-and-shield

20 күн бұрын

@@DanielSarkissian Wait ! did I miss Suzi in a previous one?

Too many stuck up musicians all on Facebook Kurt Cobain would have never been on Facebook so probably not going to find your band on Facebook first off if it's on Facebook it's not that cool anyway

Can people get over nirvana already?

@sword-and-shield

20 күн бұрын

Why? there is nothing to get over, its just discussion, like all art has.

@cliffdweller

20 күн бұрын

No.

@sstaners1234

18 күн бұрын

As long as there’s Elvis and Beatles fans in the world there will be Nirvana fans.

@ListedMia-sm4xm

17 күн бұрын

Nevermind

@joejones9520

17 күн бұрын

im 58 and been in bands and always known people into music but ive always been the only person ive known who loves nirvana, even in the day my friends made fun of em and were even glad when he died, all the love of nirvana ive seen has never been in real life, it's bizarre.

Nirvana is probably the most overrated band ever. Just because an artist dies, it shouldn't automatically make them one of the best. Just like biggie and Pac. They re good but many rappers are better than them these days. None of them were around long enough

@ineedjesus7

20 күн бұрын

there’s tons of rockstars and rappers who have died but aren’t put on as big of a pedestal as kurt cobain or tupac or biggie it’s the fact that they were extremely talented that makes it such a great loss

@onehorsetown3434

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, selling 50,000,000 albums worldwide is kids play….

@ListedMia-sm4xm

17 күн бұрын

No way