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New Machine Day: AmeriBrade 2” x 72”Belt Grinder - Assembly and Use
New Machine Day: AmeriBrade 2” x 72”Belt Grinder - Assembly and Use
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Keith, The last place on KZread I expected to see a new tool was this channel. 😉😉😂 It is good news to learn someone is starting a new tool manufacturer in the USA.
The fact that AmeriBrade is providing a Baldor motor on their products tells you much about their integrity. Few, and I do mean few...products worth a hoot come with good high quality electric motors. USA made has a completely different outlook when you compare to the imported products we have been subjected to over the past 30 years. It simply makes much more sense to save up a little longer and get the good stuff made here in the USA and only the good stuff made here in the USA. That is one fine machine !
@I_Am_Your_Problem
Ай бұрын
You ameritards make a lot of junk... But wave yer weittle fwag...
I see a lot of the knife makers put a bucket of water on the floor below the belt so that the grinding dust goes into the water so you have a lot less mess flying around the shop.
@I_Am_Your_Problem
Ай бұрын
That's not why it is there...
@seancasey2444
Ай бұрын
@@I_Am_Your_ProblemWhy didn't you tell him why it's there.
When you started pulling out the base I said "Welp! That's way out of my budget."
@hemipatton7799
Ай бұрын
yeah, right! The BASE is $500 alone! -was curious on the sizes and price so went to look YEOUCH! Let go of my bank account!!
I'd seen these grinders advertised and didn't give it a second glance. Now I know how capable it is, I want one!
It’s always a great day in the workshop when it’s new toy day 😁👍🇦🇺
@RobertBrown-lf8yq
Ай бұрын
Yep 🥳🥳🥳 Robert 🇦🇺
The alignment jig is a nice touch
I love seeing a well designed machine/tool. A lot of effort went into the design. I love that the attachments store in the stand. Very clever and efficient. Thanks for sharing.
Looks like a great addition to the shop. Thanks for supporting American manufacturing and products whenever possible.
You will love it. 2 x 72 are great for every shop, wood, metal does not matter.
That is Mechano for the big boys. Thanks for sharing.
You have to get very very lucky to find a good old belt grinder. I was fortunate to stumble on a 2"x132" that was custom built by a knife maker. It's up there among my favorite tools.
What an exemplary piece of kit! It sure was surreal watching you assemble a brand spanking new machine! Wow! Congratulations on your new awesomely extreme machine!
I have always wanted one of these belt/knife grinders. KZreadr (Jer Schmidt) built one of these (sells the plans as well). What a beast it is, and I considered buying the plans for it...but I don't have any of the equipment to make it (and no budget for those tools at the moment). I think the build cost was still close to $1000 because it had the VFD and the big motor. After looking at the cost of this Ameribrade I decided I really don't need one. LOL.
@Garth2011
Ай бұрын
The Baldor motor is a huge cost however, if you have any sense of how well a quality motor provides smooth and efficient power delivery, they are well worth the cost. Literally as a hobby shop use, likely something that will last a lifetime.
@I_Am_Your_Problem
Ай бұрын
@@Garth2011 Motor makes zero difference. The OP reference to VFD provides far more functionality than an over priced motor. Jer's functionality dwarfs this junk.
@Garth2011
Ай бұрын
@@I_Am_Your_Problem I disagree. Cheap Chinesium motors are not refined and smooth like a Baldor. If you have ever had one or experienced a Baldor, you would know this. Its not for everyone and neither is this AmeriBrade product. Its pricey for a reason, its engineered very good, sturdy and so forth to last and provide excellent service. Been there and done that with cheaper motors so it depends on your personal needs of approval. Its not for everyone but the bottom line is, Baldor will out last and provide smoother results than 95% of the motors in the market. Do some homework but first, get some experience as this is a custom made product vs. mass Chinesium. When you have a commercial need for dependable items to avoid loss of productivity in a shop it pays to have the good stuff. Jet is above average, I wouldn't complain.
@WreckDiver99
Ай бұрын
@@Garth2011 Oh no doubt, I totally agree. Fact is, I just can't pull that trigger. Heck, I was just forced to replace my NAS for our home network and that just about killed me, and that cost was less than what the cheapest of these things cost. LOL... 100% I will be looking at these if suddenly a chunk of $$$ to spend however I want comes around. LOL.
@Garth2011
Ай бұрын
@@WreckDiver99 I'm pretty sure the Baldor cost is about $800 to $1,000 compared to others that would be $400 or so. They also use WEG motors according to some of their videos. I wish they would elaborate on the matter, why Baldor vs. Marathon etc.
Good morning Keith! A great addition to the shop. have a great week!
What a truly well thought out machine. Very impressed.
very nice unit and obviously well thought out and manufactured. The stopper is the price tag north of four grand.
What a great addition to the shop.
That's a great grinder setup! Nice job making an assembly video as well. You'll get a lot of use out of it.
Great to see you supporting and promoting a US based manufacturer. While it does look to be well designed and manufactured this one is up at the top end of the price range and even the starter pack is more than most of us hobbyists would spend for a sander/grinder. The current price of the mastery package shown here is in the neighborhood of a used Bridgeport in good shape with tooling and DRO.
Great narrative and video Keith. Looks to be well designed with quality parts. Wow, American made! Great addition to your shop. Thanks for sharing.
As our far southern friends would say, “Fair Dincum piece of kit you have “ ! I first saw a “Square Wheel “ belt grinder as a 13 year old and decided it was the “Bomb!” Now at 72 I am still trying to justify such a versatile tool. Good on ya 😊
@RobertBrown-lf8yq
Ай бұрын
Yep…. “She’s fair dinkum orright mate” 🤣🤣🇦🇺 Robert ( Sinny Orstraya) 😎
@ellieprice363
Ай бұрын
What the H is a square wheel belt grinder?
That is really a great machine. Extremely versatile. Good purchase.
0:24 I see the planer has become the proverbial AFS.
@Hoaxer51
Ай бұрын
Another horizontal surface!
It is a beautiful tool although a bit on the expensive side. Probably worthwhile for your shop but not for a hobby shop.🙂🙂
Pretty impressive tool. Also a great presentation. Thanks.
This is more versatile than i first thought with features i never heard of before. One thing though, the internal radius grinder doesn't have an adjustable stop bar like say a bench grinder has for stopping chisels ect from kicking down when you push them into the wheel.
Yep I love mine, use it all the time. One note; turn the speed down when using small wheels, especially real small ones. Some smart person can calc the RPM of a 1/4" wheel at 6000 SFPM, but let's just say it's faster than those little bearings can take (for long). Small-wheel adapter is the main reason for variable speed IMHO. If you want to save money, you can skip the VFD, use a 1-ph motor, As long as you don't use wheels smaller than say 2". Once you've experienced a good VFD though, you won't go back.
@Garth2011
Ай бұрын
Agreed...just this demo tells me the VFD is a must, soft start, brake assisted stop, smooth power delivery, low electrical frequency noise and reverse controlling that beautiful Baldor motor is pretty much the best of the best.
@UK_Lemons
Ай бұрын
@bulgieR 6000sf/m = 72000 surf in/min. Circumference of 1/4in roller = 0.7854in. 72000/0,7854=91673rpm. I think your advice to slow the belt speed is sound and should definitely be taken seriously.
It's good to see some quality manufacturing.
Just bought a medium-of-Harbor-Freights-lines belt sander, and used as simple metal grinder last week. For the occasional garage hacker, this was perfect. I'm sure you'll enjoy the real thing.
Looking good Keith!
I need one of those to sharpen my lawn mower blade!
Man, what a sweet machine!! Nice pick up!
Baldor motors are so nice. That looks like a very good piece of kit.
Never a bad thing when a new piece comes home Keith. Very nice and You van use it whitch is the best part. Right down to the fasteners supplied are heavy duth. Nice buy my friend. All, north American made too. Very well set up. I can see with your assembly I am more and more impressed with everything about this neat new toy. Sweet piece. I can se it being used every day.
Very nice belt sander Keith. Certainly very versatile. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
I love my ameribrade... Great customer service too!!
Nice looking 👀 piece of equipment.
really excellent belt sander and made in the usa!
Loving that grinder!
Looks a nice machine Keith 🙂Thanks for the video share 👍
Inexpensive, too. Kinda like fixturing tables. Few homeshop folks will ever afford one.
Excellent video (and product)!
Very impressive machine!
Nice piece of kit. I would like to see at least a red dust cover over the on/off switch instead of black one. For the price and quality this should come with a two button start/stop system including safety relay. There are expensively learned reasons why industrial equipment has a Big Red stop button and why power loss requires you to restart the machine.
@douglasbollinger8678
Ай бұрын
With the KBAC VFD on this grinder, power loss does require a restart assuming factory defaults.
@honorharrington4546
Ай бұрын
@@douglasbollinger8678 That's good, it still needs an easily identified off switch. If a hand or finger gets trapped, finding the Off with tear filled eyes needs to be a literal no brainer.
Happy Monday Georgia! 😊
What a neat machine, seems to be very well thought out and constructed.
Nice tool Keith!
Cool belt grinder
This was a masterful review, congratulations. Cheers from OZ mate.
In the last 30 years sanding and grinding has sure changed. Yes there were belt sanders but few were used for grinding. Also the four inch hand grinders and a big one for me, the flap discs.
Very nice grinder. My only concern would be all the grit getting to the attachments that are mounted to the stand.
Very nice design and accessories
I made a copy of the "House Made" grinder, very useful for knife making.
Looking good there Keith.
Great addition to the shop.
Nice pice of kit Keith!
That’s one versatile tool!! I need one, hopefully one day !!
Nice grinder!😊
Thanks, Keith. Nice tool. Seems very versatile and easy to reconfigure. I've seen a lot of grinders / sanders over the years and something I have never seen is a dust collector that works. Maybe you could design and implement one for this tool?
thank you Keith
Very nice tool, well made. Thanks for sharing.
In my experience, belts only last a few minutes if you run them backwards. Liiks like a nice machine. Thanks for the video.
Nice looking grinder for an all in one, no assembly required. I'm making a House Made Revolution grinder.
Nice grinder, I would like to see a miter slot on the table
Dang that looks like one mean as hell grinder. I've always looked at grinders that youtubers have had particularly for knife grinding and just in general but this looks pretty sweet. Pricey for that mastery grinder but American made and all. It sure looks quite great at swapping those radiuses and adjusting the belts. The whole stand and setup and such looks impressive. If I ever had the money to drop for such I'd sure consider it. Its nice to see a video introducing such a tool and it'd be great to hear later on feedback on your use with it.
Thank you Keith!
A good looking American made machine. The design is much too complicated and expensive ,in my opinion, for home shops. I built my own 2 x 48, 2x72 (takes both belts) heavy duty bench model for less than $1000 including motor and use it almost every day. Looking forward to seeing this one in use.
@I_Am_Your_Problem
Ай бұрын
Cheap motor.
@ellieprice363
Ай бұрын
@@I_Am_Your_Problem No. 2HP 3 phase 3450 motor was 1/3 of total cost of materials. Chinese made but smooth as glass. As a machinist I designed the grinder and supplied the labor.
Heads up to you sir. First thing you said was all USA made. Pride and usage off home grown produce. Where England has lost that. Not only the shops to build and sell. We have lost that sense off pride we once had. Likes off rolls Royce. We lost the inventor. People who take the risk. I could go on but you get my drift. Well done Keith. I love what you do. 👏👏👏👏👏🇺🇸🇬🇧👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you for sharing. Very nice👍
About 3700$ for the 1.5hp variable Master kit. Very nice!
Thank you for another Great video. Cheers
excellent video!! its pretty cool seeing the big press in the background. i sent keith those 1 inch thick plates:-).
Great looking grinder..love the USA made quality. Uhh i cant afford $3500 for a grinder,looks like Im back to making one. Thanks for the video
@billdoodson4232
Ай бұрын
Clough42 has a good set of videos of him making something similar. I think it still set him back well over $2K. In fact I think I will go and watch the series again.
@FireGodSpeed
Ай бұрын
yea "usa made quality" 5:48 1 guy who was cutting them out couldn't be bothered and another guy 6:50 who welded the middle piece in also couldn't be bothered to deburr it. If i pay 3,5k for a grinder you bet i want everything deburred, ATLEAST. Even most china scrap is deburred.
@billdoodson4232
Ай бұрын
Have to say that the bolts for the stand could do with being shorter. And why no proper finishing off or paint?
@AmeriBradeOfficial
Ай бұрын
@@FireGodSpeed You are absolutely right about the cut quality on the legs. We should not have missed that. Very stupid mistake on our part, but we always make sure to take care of any customer that comes across that sort of thing. We'll be reaching out to Keith to replace that part.
@FireGodSpeed
Ай бұрын
@@AmeriBradeOfficial Thank you for acknowledging the mistake and for your commitment to making it right. It's reassuring to see a company take responsibility and act to rectify issues promptly. This level of honesty and customer care is what defines a good company. I appreciate your efforts to ensure quality and customer satisfaction. Keep up the good work! (to be fair, maybe i was abit harsh everybody can make mistakes, still atleast 2 people saw it and didn't do anything, goes against my personal work ethics, i honestly couldn't ship it out like that and i am a mere employee of a company)
Love. Your videos, hop you make some longer onenow that you're retired.
Real nice feature to have all those different wheel sizes for all the radii. Looks wierd that one wheel runs on the abrasive side of the belt.
Good stuff Keith
Couldn't help but notice the powermatic planer (224??) And the 20" or 24" disc sander, I had a powermatic like that vintage and it was a great machine,would be great for a video on replacing the cutterhaead with a helical one ?! Amazing the tremendous exposure the internet and youtube has given to the 2x72 grinder which existed in relative obscurity for decades !!!
Other makes of grinder that use the large bottom wheel, you can angle the sanding plate back far enough to use grind off the large wheel
Looks like a great tool
Lol Keith,,,, I have no real need for that grinder but after this video I want one bad,,,, :) thanks for sharing!
Great video
Not vintage but a dang handy belt sander. It looks great.
wow!!!...nice piece of equipment
So I heard you want to try bladesmithing! Well, you have a nice forge and grinder setup there, so I think you're going to have a lot of fun. :)
Looks pretty impressive overall. Two things though: That table mount is sketchy, no better than the crappy tool rests on import grinders. No thought given to dust collection at all, not even some holes or tabs to mount a shop made pickup. For the money, I would expect the table mount to be more than a single carriage bolt through a single flange.
I wonder whether a spark guard below the table might be a good addition? It looks like you might end up with sparks hitting the tools stored on the mount below the table.
Great job.
try it for sharpening large drill bits. way less heat generated.
only need a spark catcher .....exellent grinder and video
Pretty slick.
Looks good. Is there an attachment to catch the grinding dust beneath the table to keep it off the floor? A vacuum attachment? A cover on the small roller above the table to prevent spraying grinding dust forward on the operator would also seem a something to think about. Cheers.
Hmmmm, small forging equipment - check, knife grinder - check - I think someone is itching to make a knife. Algorithmic interaction achieved. End of Line.
@I_Am_Your_Problem
Ай бұрын
Right... not enough of these knife content creators... The only thing they produce is a distraction.
Thanks for sharing
The reverse would be great when working with the big wheel.
It looks like the motor is not totally enclosed. We have a problem with mud dobbers. They get inside and jam the mechanism to shut capacitor off which destroys the capacitor. It has happened twice to us. Now we put pantyhose over motor to keep them out.
@douglasbollinger8678
Ай бұрын
I'm sure for the money it's a TEFC motor (totally enclosed fan cooled). A 3 phase motor doesn't have any of the capacitor start nonsense so you can keep wearing your pantyhose.
"Made in USA" - *NOT China* is a big Thumbs Up. The AmeriBrade is a very high quality product.
I need that !
Platen is pronounced with a short a. Rhymes with flatten
I made my own, was free and does everything that one does.