Does the new Hyundai Kona look like a big improvement? 👇

@80y3r9

Жыл бұрын

Looks nicer on the inside than the niro I ordered.. annoying as it still hasn't turned up

@colingoode3702

Жыл бұрын

In a word errr, No. Slow charging speed & price let it down. Styling is a bit bland as well. I'm still looking for a cost effective 5 door hatch EV which I'm pretty sure will have to be a used model, prices for which seem to be dropping nicely.

@toyotaprius79

Жыл бұрын

It's a crossover. No.

@toyotaprius79

Жыл бұрын

​@@colingoode3702 that's the original Ioniq, 28 and 36kWh, and also available as a PHEV and Hybrid. Sadly it was axed for the Kona, and the opulent tank being the Ioniq 5.

@ScubaSteveCanada

Жыл бұрын

@@colingoode3702 Same charging speed as the Mustang Mach E, on average. Hyundai developed a 100 KW flat rate charge curve. The Mach E has a 5 minute boost to 150 KWs and then does an average of 100 KWs.

I've got the latest Kona Electric and the best I've managed is 314 miles from a charge and several times I've got 300. And that's with mixed motorway and city driving. No car in this class is as efficient in the real world. The new Mégane E-Tech has a terrible real world range and the iD3 and Born are the same. I will almost definitely be upgrading to the new Kona when my lease ends.

Despite its shortcomings, this version requires a lot of support for its inclusion of more buttons to control aircon etc., rather than hiding the controls in the infotainment screen like most other new cars. Buttons are a major safety feature and should be recognised as such by NCAP. I've tended to respect your reviews in the past as being from 'industry experts', but I echo others comments about not bothering to travel to see this new model 'in the flesh'. As a result your review is quite misleading when you're comparing it to the previous model and other new Hyundai's. You're quite wrong when you say little has change to its overall appearance and that it doesn't reflect the new models such as the Ioniq5. Oh dear, try learning from the "Electrifying" review, where you will see that there are many more pixel related echoes of the new Ioniqs and body panel creases too. But then, they travelled to see it in the flesh. You're going to have to up your game What Car? and while you're about it, select a car, rather than a van, for your car of the year! 🤨

they should have shrunk down the ionic 5 … such a great design but on the large size

I really quite like the interior, the steering wheel is much nicer than their more recent models.

Like the new Kona, disappointed you only sent a camera person to Germany and did VO for the entire video. As it's bigger looking forward to trying it out but at least it seems like I will be able to have passengers sit behind me unlike the original, being 6'4" based on TFLEV's review. Just need to know if it will be able to tow and whether it has a heatpump option or not.

At £38k for the fully electric version, it'll be a harder sell against some strong competition...... That said Kia/Hyundai have proved to be some of the most efficient EV's around. That might matter to some.....

@dcvariousvids8082

Жыл бұрын

Wonder if they’ve solved the Hyundai & Kia self draining 12v battery system.

@toyotaprius79

Жыл бұрын

Said most efficient EV isn't available anymore because it wasn't a crossover

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

@@dcvariousvids8082 I've had no problems with my Kia in 2+ years. I wasn't even aware there was an issue.

How much are those large front and tail lights to replace as they will easily get damaged in car parks! Do designers actually drive cars in the real world? Interior however looks great and still lots of buttons and switches unlike VW and Tesla.

I like it a lot but fast charging is surely a must these days. Might be a dealbreaker for some so it seems an odd decision.

@ScubaSteveCanada

Жыл бұрын

Ford Mustang Mach E can do 150 KW rate ... for 5 minutes then averages 100 KWs. You spend much more on the Mach E.

@savedfaves

Жыл бұрын

I think Kia/Hyundai are doing an Apple on it and gimping these cars to make the other ones for more money stand out. Personally for me the charging speed of 72Kw isn’t the end of the world because I would virtually never have to charge away from the house with the range it gets. Probably 280 real world in ok weather, which would suit me. Can’t afford one new though. We’ll see the used market in three years.

I like how it looks, better IMO than the Niro EV. I've owned an e-Niro since March 2019, one of the first batch to come into France. The ownership experience over 4 years and 75,000 km has been great but I can see the problem both Hyundai and Kia are going to have, and that's price. The new Niro is now more expensive here than the base Tesla M3 and on a par with the RWD Model Y. These are bigger and in many ways more capable cars...and based on the throngs I saw at the new MG dealership in Poitiers recently, the Chinese are going to put a dent into sales of VW Group, Stellantis and Hyundai/Kia sales. Hyundai and Kia make well designed and built cars but things are getting very competitive now in the EV world.

@savedfaves

Жыл бұрын

Model 3 has a smaller boot than the new Kona and the new Kona has range of 300 miles as opposed to 220 miles. The bonuses of the Model 3 are charge network, dual wireless charging (this is very handy) and a big tech advantage. The negatives of the 3 is the completely buttonless interior won’t be to everyone’s liking and the firm suspension personally puts me off the car as I want softer suspension. If someone’s in the market for a Tesla the one to go for is the Model Y long range. By far Tesla’s best deal. But above many people’s pay grade. And that firm suspension and lack of buttons won’t suit everyone.

Does it have awd?

Like it , especially the upgrades and of course vtl , which means at last you can make a cup of coffee ☕️ 😊😊👍

I like the improved interior but oh my. What have they done to the outside - C4 Cactus meets Robo Cop?

I own the 1st gen kona electric and it has all thethings mine is missing except for RWD and wireless android auto/apple car play

I liked 2022 model summed compact and stylish

A lot of the premium is because of the various government subsidies so the pricing doesn't need to be as competitive. That's simply the nature of subsidies as it isn't always the consumer that benefits. However, without government subsidies, we may still be waiting for EV's. Note that Hyundai owns Kia so in the long run, their models should be similar as many components will be shared.

@lozkko

Жыл бұрын

The UK plug in grant has been abolished, so not really true anymore. The reason is that OEM make a minority of their sales from EVs, so they don't want to cut prices. Makers who are pure EVs or majority EVs (Tesla, MG, Polestart) have cut prices or been much more aggressive with their prices.

Could I suggest you supply stats in metric as well.... 259 miles???? 304 miles???

@guyivie8987

Жыл бұрын

259 miles = 417 km. 304 miles = 489 km. (according to my conversion calculator)

@zwieseler

Жыл бұрын

@@guyivie8987 Yeh, I can do the sums but with only 3 countries in the world operating in imperial, I would think quoting the metric numbers should be a given....

Twin exhaust?

Hyundai and Kia are gaining big positions in the market.

It looks amazing do you know when is available in the UK?

Twin exhausts?

I've not left a comment like this before, but having just watched the Electrifying video of this car... Doug you need to do a lot more research before you present these cars in future... You didn't even mention the way that the rear parcel shelf folds away neatly behind the rear seats, something that will be very important to many potential buyers. We need to know details that can actually help us make a decision one way or another. Constructive criticism is there to help you improve the way you do things.

The original Ioniq (Prius shaped) was a much better EV. But crossoves are popular and profitable (and less efficient) so that's that :/

@Dreadpirateflappy

Жыл бұрын

i loved my original ioniq. i only had the hybrid version, but it was by far the best car I ever owned.

@CJMVector321190

Жыл бұрын

Trouble is the more swept rears hinder dog owners or families. EVs are expensive they are not second cars but you only car. Has to do what 2 cars used to. We have a city car and a bigger car at present.

That rear… all I see is Ssangyong Rodius

Just seen both NERO and KONA in the flesh, similar, but the KONA is definitely more modern inside. Both seats are a bit hard, for my bottom.

Good overall review of the new update on the Kona, I own the previous Kona electric 64kw and I am very pleased with the car’s efficiency very accurate battery usage. Looking forward to the drive test on this, one thing I have noticed on your review and other reviewers comments is that the car now has a light in the charging port this is not new my older Kona also has a light around the charger for night time charging. I don’t think That I will be running to a Hyundai showroom anytime soon as the range is the same and charging speed is much the same as the previous model if they had upgraded the battery to 70kw and 150kw charging speed this car would be a massive winner.

@ScubaSteveCanada

Жыл бұрын

The charging door is now heated. The charging is now a flat 100 KWs and has battery preconditioning for the cooler temps.

Prefer the look of the Niro. I would be worried about the positioning of those headlights. However like the idea of the heated charging door, the bigger (than Niro) screens and more real buttons. Not too worried about charging speed as I would do the vast majority of charging at home, but can see how improving charging speed would make it more attractive (as it would on the Niro). I've got a Niro EV on order, and will stick to it

@user-xy7ed6jy2r

10 ай бұрын

why are the headlight positions worrying?

Well, over the pond we don't get any of the competitors listed here, so I guess this channel is "What UK Car?".

They could have skipped the hybrid version imo. edit: hope there weren't compromises to the platform because of that.

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

I think some car makers will begin dropping standard (non plug-in) hybrids from their ranges altogether fairly soon.... I think legislation requiring hybrids to have the potential to cover X miles on battery alone, will be along soon. Only plug-In hybrids are able to do that. Standard hybrids cannot.

I think it’s a great update from the last one and it will go far.

It all sort of lost credibility for me when they said you could get with twin exhaust?

I don't know how they justify these prices, they will certainly not be getting my money

This whole transition of lights in any vehicle’s bumpers are ridiculous smh!

A starting price of £38K for the Kona EV would make it over £1K more expensive than the base 65kwh Niro EV. Surely that couldn't be for the smaller battery!?

@savedfaves

Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind they’re guessing these prices. Sounds to me like he’s quoting the bigger battery car.

why does an electric car have twin exhausts?

Lights on bumpers are as bad as subscription based AC

The Kona Electric doesn't come in N-Line spec due to the modifications of the body kit affecting efficiency.

It looks better than the current model but a starting price of £38k for the Electric version is just too much. This new Kona Electric starts at the same price as the top spec Atto3 which is a bigger & more spacious car which has a heat pump & pano roof as standard. It's also on a par with the larger & more accomplished Enyaq 60. I can't help thinking that Hyundai & Kia are starting to price themselves out of the market which will undoubtedly be filled by new makes & models from China. Hyundai / Kia are no longer the value for money brands they were a few years ago.

@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834

9 ай бұрын

True they are not the 'value for money' they used to be, that tag has moved to the Chinese. But look at the build quality.

Twin exhausts??? That'll be to expell all the fresh air on the electric model.

It has no face. Not a fan of the old one either, but this seems even worse. I guess it's a problem with large headlights and grills no longer required in EVs because a lot of manufactures seem to be struggling with making interesting front end designs.

IMO, looks nice but far too expensive.

Exhaust tips?

@shroomyesc

Жыл бұрын

Not on the EV. Only on the N-line petrol.

@Habit7

Жыл бұрын

@@shroomyesc yes obviously, but why talk about petrol spec option on a EV review.

@WmLatin

Жыл бұрын

Looks to me like rushed editing?

ICE PLEASE

The Kona and Niro didn’t have the same battery, that’s why the Niro was never recalled!

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

Жыл бұрын

That's right. First gen Kona used LG, the e-Niro used SK Innovation.

£13K dearer than petrol! Need to have more money than sense to consider one. We are all being fooled.

Kia looks better

Why would any electric car need twin exhaust pipes defeats the purpose

@Dreadpirateflappy

Жыл бұрын

you know there is a petrol version of this car?

@chrisnewman7281

Жыл бұрын

@@Dreadpirateflappy of course I’m a goose

38k for the entry level EV 😞😞

Sales will be worse than with the previous version: 1) it costs a lot; 2) no proper fast charging; 3) much better competition offers

Does anyone talk about battery degradation? It happens and it's terrible. within 2 years you lose about 70 miles per charge.

What a shame, it was looking like a nice upgrade

From the back end it looks like it's pants are falling down........

The price difference between the petrol and electric models is ridiculous. Surely Hyundai/Kia can be more competitive given the number of EVs they sell. Price has to be closer to £30,000 for the Kona to out sell the MG 4 or 5.

@Dreadpirateflappy

Жыл бұрын

Brand and reliability alone means it will sell more than the MG4. the MG4 has had some serious issues that MG don't seem to care about rectifying. Buy cheap and get cheap.

Too expensive. yes I know EVs have ben expensive but with Tesla price cutting these models now look over priced. Unless the dealers are going to discount (quietly)

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. See my point above.

Still an expensive car for the average man in the street to finance. With electricity costs going through the roof is an electric car as cheap to run as a petrol / diesel equivalent ?

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

It is if you use an off-peak EV tariff to charge at home. I pay 10p per kwh on my Octopus tariff. A full charge is usually £7 to £8, which does me for over a week. It works out at about £3.5p per mile, or around a 7th of the cost of buying petrol. I can cover 1000 miles of town and general driving for £40. I haven't used a public charger for nearly a year now, because I've had no need to. There is a free charger at my local Sainsburys, but I've not used that for ages. There are used EV's on the market. You don't *have* to buy a brand new one......

Ev owners are already moaning . Only 2% people probably have EVs . The charging prices are going up. Just imagine when ev car sales are up by 30-40% the electrical companies will have a field day and charge customers through the nose. Alot of car experts don't believe ev is the answer. People who are not well to do will not be able to run or buy an ev car. Less reliable than combustion engine, more insurance, higher repair bills, more to run . You can't tow an ev incase of breakdown thus compulsory to have breakdown cover.

£8k premium over the hybrid and £13k over the petrol equivalent? Way too much. It is no wonder why interest in EVs are declining over the past year. How can a working class person like myself afford EVs? I can only afford to buy used cars at around £10 to £15k max.

@lozetchells9164

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this. You'd need to be a taxi driver or a traveling salesman for the electric to make sense on purely cost terms, and even then only if you only ever charge at home... Which is impossible if you do that sort of mileage.

@ExpeditiousTraveller

Жыл бұрын

Work harder duh

@bbbf09

Жыл бұрын

MG4 is same price as Ford Focus £26k. Don't think anyone ever put Ford Focus in the rich mans plaything. £10 to 15k would surely put you only in 2nd hand terrritory anyway - even for petrol cars. As for 2nd hand EVs I notice a BMW i3 now in that range

@hessulipoika13

Жыл бұрын

@@lozetchells9164 exactly, Im salesperson and getting 60k car basically free

@muzzer8869

Жыл бұрын

@@ExpeditiousTraveller absolute bell

As with all Kia a Hyundia car's give them a few years and they look very dated, and this one looks way over designed, strips of led DRL'S don't help at all.

@The-Salty-Bager

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree, they always age really badly

this is so nice inside and out

😍😍👍👍👍

Hyundai parts department will make a fortune with broken lights front and rear from this model....

I like it :)

What do I think? 🤔 . . . . Meh!

Charge speed is too slow. They have the technology but won’t use it. I had the new Niro EV but it was garbage. The old model was so much better. New batteries aren’t as good either

Can’t help thinking that those lights in the lower rear end are not going to last long and must be prone to damage

The gasoline version looks fantastic!!! This EV version looks F$#king bland. Seriously, why couldn't they keep the exact same look for the EV version?.... No thank you - I'm going to enjoy my 2021 Kona EV... this design sux.

Rare occasion when the hyundai version is better looking than the kia.

“Hyoon Day”? Really, dude? Do you really think that’s how Hyundai is pronounced? Ridiculous.

The blue model is so bland looking at the front.

Oh dear Personally I thought the new Nero was ugly but the Kona is worse, not for me.

review-by-brochure?

@rajjy1976

Жыл бұрын

Innit. Dullest review in a long time.

So.. it won't be 38k for the basic otherwise it's be more than the Kia and that isn't the model

eSoul

Twin exhausts to jettison all those electrons 😂

@shroomyesc

Жыл бұрын

That's only for the petrol version.

POV: you’re from Portugal

Technically very average… 🤓

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

So you've carried out a full technical appraisal of the new Kona then?

Electric Junk, We will see how it stands up to the test of time when the batteries are degraded

@Dreadpirateflappy

Жыл бұрын

there are still leafs around from 2013 going strong. and they don't even have great battery management. with battery tech getting better and better it's a non issue, especially as going forward it will be far easier and cheaper to replace batteries than engine parts.

2:51 this is UGLY

Pretty gross of hyundai to release this as they're removing the old kona, but still have 10s on 1000s of kona orders to make, and they're gonna pump out the last gen to people who have waited 2 years.

Dirty ev’s