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I am pretty sure you can build that machine and maybe the bed won't go to 200°C but that price gap is ridiculous. It has normal 3D electronics it is insulated but that does not justify that price.

Its 14,900 dollars , Id say that is just a bit out of the range of your average 3d printer. Todays video is on the Sovol SV08 and my next video is a 15k printer...Such diversity

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

I agree that this is not for the normal crowd! It's definitely geared towards business, but it's super cool that they allowed me to come check it out and make a video on it! There's a reason why you don't see many/any videos on this machine. It's because the businesses that own them don't make videos or can't because they're under NDA. So when I get a chance to make a video about an awesome machine that could do more than I have ever even thought about doing myself, I definitely jump at it! I hope you enjoyed the video! What would you Make if you had a printer with these capabilities?

@Todestelzer

16 күн бұрын

I think it’s good to show such printers now and than to see what’s possible in 3D Printing. But yeah I bought a Snapmaker J1 instead 😅 It has a automatic X/Y calibration and a guided z calibration. Pretty easy to do. Only downside is I had in 3 months already 2 issues with it. Changed out X axsis rail and ribbon cable on the right extruder.

@TheKeverin

10 күн бұрын

Its 15k dollars and they use the cheapest Meanwell LRS Power supplies without PFC-Filtering. Those would not even be Legal to use in the EU in homes as they are not class B rated. No idea about the US tho.

@Todestelzer

10 күн бұрын

@@TheKeverin you only need PFC above a certain limit. I think it’s 300w. Don’t think this Printer needs more than 300w if the bed is powered by mains voltage.

@TheKeverin

10 күн бұрын

@@Todestelzer But its only rated class A. So no Home use

VM has always been high level machines undoubtedly, but I'd love to see a pellet extruder option for when serious takes on Hardcore.

Great shirt! Also, I'm enjoying your videos, thanks!

It's a beautiful printer

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

I think so too!

Amazing machine!

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

I agree! It's pretty sweet!

Looks like a HevOrt setup. Cool!

This is a nicely narrated advert and I mean it in a good way. Please show us the quality of printed parts. The kinematics are dual Markforged which inherently cause racking. Markforged mitigate that by having dual linear blocks and using many machined parts. 22 IDEX is using belts on both side of the Y axis which I assume also eliminate the issue. However I would rather see an actual printed part at whatever the maximum speed is.

I ❤ 3d printers!!!

@TheEdgeofTech

17 күн бұрын

Awesome! Me Too! Thanks for watching!

Awesome machine. This is what I need. You should make an XXL size with next level tool changer. This is the definition of open source.

Fun to dream 😊

This is an awesome video, and I'd love to see the ability to quickly print flow fields for fuel cells and electrolyzers with different flow patterns and number of flow channels. It would accelerate optimization for high temperature and chemical application in hydrogen generation and utilization. Being able to do that with gas and liquid tight, base resistant, materials in FDM quickly would allow researchers to quickly test new ideas rather than just going to CNC. Wondering if this printer could do that with roughly 100mm by 100mm by 10mm flow fields with different serpentine patterns.

Love the shirt

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

Thank you!

Has anyone ever seen the thing print?

I would like to see you do a helicopter video with some pek

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

That would be awesome!

Hey i saw you at mrrf when is the video coming out

What do I want printed on it? Yes. If I had every thing set up I would get one of these. Why? IDK its really nice

HAMMER AND NAILS!!!

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

Ooh I like that! What would you test them on?

@danielknight1162

16 күн бұрын

Hammer it into wood of different density or even sheetrock. Use them to hang a sign on that beautiful background wall.

last I checked this printer is anything but open source...

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

Why do you say that ?

@coreypeacock9900

15 күн бұрын

@@TheEdgeofTech Could just be me but when I think open source I think like, any piece of info I could need is readily available. But there is no CAD model for this printer to download, there is no BOM so I can source my own, nor are there any instructions. They even said in their video about it that they developed their own proprietary XY motion system. Nothing except the specs for this printer are available to the public, therefor to me, and I think to most, this printer is not in the least bit open source.

@TheEdgeofTech

15 күн бұрын

@@coreypeacock9900 I understand what you're saying for sure! Pat, the hot end, board, power supply, Motors, etc. Etc are all readily available. We can get them right now If we want to. The board is open and not some proprietary firmware. I understand that the cad model is not available, But when it comes down to actual functionality and replacement parts, I believe it is. I will ask about the cad model because I'm curious though!

@coreypeacock9900

15 күн бұрын

@@TheEdgeofTech I mean I get that but just because I can buy the parts for something, that doesn't make it open source... by that logic you can call a lot of things open source that simply are not. Yes those individual parts may be, but the unit as a whole is not. If something is open source, by definition that means enough knowledge about it is open to the public that it can be replicated or modified, such as Voron printers. No such information about this printer is available to the public besides SOME of the components it uses. Granted its my own opinion, but I just think that taking a handful of the components from the printer that are open source and calling the entire printer open source is very much a stretch.

@TheEdgeofTech

15 күн бұрын

@@coreypeacock9900 I totally understand what you're saying and do appreciate your opinion! I see it both ways. Aunt, I am definitely not saying you are incorrect. I'm going to bring this up to the team and see what they say. Again, totally understand what you're saying, and definitely respect it!

about time! As a former V2 user for a short time, the previous version was terrible and completely failed. Bed falling off the shuttles, the old version of the emergency stop switch looked like it was from an old computer, i remember the wiring on the back looked terrible, probe breaking first try, nozzle bent... I can keep going, pics on the facebook community support page. Glad to see that V3 is out with improvements, but until we have real reviews from other users, i would not consider.

@TheEdgeofTech

11 күн бұрын

@@marcozacarias1675 I totally understand the apprehension! I'm hoping to get one myself and go through it so everybody can see how it is!

@VisionMiner

4 күн бұрын

Thank you Marco for sharing your experience with our 22 IDEX. Since your purchase in early 2022, we've made significant strides: Your feedback, along with that of other early adopters, has been invaluable in shaping the evolution of our product. We take all customer input seriously, which is why we offered you a full refund and thoroughly analyzed the returned unit. Your concerns didn't fall on deaf ears - they became the catalyst for over 150 improvements implemented over the past two years. Here are a few significant actions we have taken: Complete product overhaul: The current 22 IDEX is a far cry from its early predecessor, with enhancements touching every aspect of its design and functionality. Vertical integration: We've acquired Addwise in a significant deal, bringing manufacturing in-house. This strategic move allows us unprecedented control over quality and the ability to rapidly implement improvements. Interested readers can find more details about this acquisition in industry publications like 3D Printing Industry. 3dprintingindustry.com/news/vision-miner-acquires-addwise-in-a-14m-deal-231289/ Continuous refinement: The constant focus and hard work of our engineers and team along with your comments and others has paved the way for our upcoming V3 release. Industry validation: Feedback from aerospace, military, defense, and government clients has further refined the 22 IDEX, ensuring it meets the most stringent professional standards. We're confident that the 22 IDEX of today would exceed your expectations. It's a testament to how we've transformed customer challenges into opportunities for innovation. We appreciate your role in this journey. If you're open to it, we'd love the opportunity to demonstrate how your initial feedback has translated into a product that's now setting new industry standards. Thank you again for your candid review. It's through such honest communication that we continue to grow and improve. @marcozacarias1675

That Vision Miner carbon fiber plate looks like high modulus 'Dragonplate'.

@grahamwatson3677

15 күн бұрын

I think is from Rock West Composites. Still a high temp resin (not as heat resistant as Dragonplate), but it's a little cheaper.

@user-cg5tm7ks3e

12 күн бұрын

@@grahamwatson3677 It's from Protech composites and they lie about "developing the resin"

Great machine. Where can I get those vision miner shirts?

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

Right! I need one too!

i would love to have one of these, how much are they? I would love to see you print some simple car parts and model airplane parts. Can this be used for home use? What kinds of high strength material can you run thru the machine?

Right at the beginning when you put your hands on it it slid on the table a bit. That machine will definitely need serious anti slip feet.

Shiny!

Poly carbonate record blanks for cutting music on.

How whant spend 15K for a single printer when you can buy 10x X1C carbon for the same price ? =>

You forgot to ask about if something happened in the printer, that make the printing faliure any notice?

Makerbot is the biggest offender of locking customers into their ecosystem, Ive had so many issues with them. Very happy to see such printers coming to market so I can dump my method x

Not sure why you would need to go to 500C for any plastic a Bambu x1c goes to 300c that's 572F. The new x1e goes to 320C (607F) and has active chamber heating and you could buy like 5 of those.

@mikeb1596

10 күн бұрын

Engineering grade plastics need 300-450c and build plate temps well over 100c. Bambu doesn't make printers designed for high temp engineering plastics, it's an entirely different class of printers.

Printer manufacturers must also invest in filaments recycling machines

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

I like this idea a lot! Thank you for watching!

@wimnanoe5887

16 күн бұрын

@@TheEdgeofTech great content as usual

Why RED top.....? 🤔

@foam27

14 күн бұрын

Because $15k😂

@marcozacarias1675

11 күн бұрын

why not?

Почти пятнадцать тысяч долларов за это? Очень деньги нужны? Немыслимая сумма, придётся купить эту копию у китайцев через год, за три тысячи китайских денег.

Massively overpriced Ratrig.

This is a rebranded AddWise IDEX. There are very few favorable reviews of this printer and a bunch of bad ones. Too bad this video did not show the printer in use.

@ottersdangerden

17 күн бұрын

"We are thrilled to announce that Vision Miner, a global leader in industrial 3D printing solutions, has officially acquired AddWise." - well yeah I can see that being a thing.

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

I agree, I wish I could have shown it working! If I had more time there, I would have definitely done that. I can assure you that I have seen prints that have come off of them and they are awesome in person! They just did not have any running while I was there. But I can fix that and get us some footage!

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

Yes! They acquired that company , and I met the Guy who designed this printer! He was from the Ukraine and he now works in-house at Vision Miner with them! They are not going to put out garbage, I fully believe that!

@ottersdangerden

16 күн бұрын

@@TheEdgeofTech I actually wonder if the bad reviews were of the older design where you would burn your arms. I could see that as an unfavorable review.

@dmax9324

12 күн бұрын

@@ottersdangerden I heard from the company that those bad reviews were somewhat of a smear. These units are wildly improved over the initial beta level units. Nothing like the old addwise version.

15000$ for this no tnx abbsolute no sense

I could build this for about $3k.

@INNOCUBE3D

10 күн бұрын

I can build it for about $1K.

@dieselphiend

10 күн бұрын

@@INNOCUBE3D I seriously doubt it. You'd probably spend that on just 3 high temp linear rails, and carriages.

@INNOCUBE3D

10 күн бұрын

@@dieselphiend I am in China

@dieselphiend

10 күн бұрын

@@INNOCUBE3D How much are high temp linear rails, and carriages, in China? Can you provide me with a product name?

@dieselphiend

10 күн бұрын

@@INNOCUBE3D How do you access the internet outside of China? Isn't it risky?

$15k and not open source. This is a joke, right?

@TheEdgeofTech

16 күн бұрын

Um. It's definitely open source. Not sure where that comment came from?

@21LOLxPRO

9 күн бұрын

Isnt opne source this a crp shit

11:14 ehh. IDEX is on the wrong path. They give off "wE pUt CaRbIn FiBeR iN oUr BuILd PlAtE" kind of vibes. Didn't even hit on any points of the benefits or explanation as to why they decided on that build plate. The entirety of this video represents that very thing. A lackluster explanation; or lack their of, of what this product brings too the table and the problems it solves.

😂 this is "Made in USA" No camera, No cooling for the Board, worst printed and cheapest klicky Probe ever, No Display, cheapest 5015 for the heat chamber and 15K for this thing.... Just lol 😂

@TheEdgeofTech

17 күн бұрын

Interesting take on the printer. Is there anything about it that you DO like or is it all just bad??

@rammiii2908

17 күн бұрын

​@@TheEdgeofTech the high temp for chamber and hotend are a nice thing. The idex is also good. The suction is a good Idea as well, but should be included for the price. There was nothing said about the slicer, this should also be included and made for the printer. Lidar is also no included, so you have to calibrate like 5 years ago. No beacon probe or similar included. This is just ridicolous for this price.

@TheEdgeofTech

17 күн бұрын

@@rammiii2908 thanks for responding! Actually it calibrates itself with the click of one button. There is no manual bed leveling and the slicer they use I believe is Prusa Slicer. And the probe is included.

@rammiii2908

17 күн бұрын

​@@TheEdgeofTech how can the filament be calibrated without lidar or something? I don't talk about bed leveling. Where is the accelerometer? If this thing would be sold for "tinkerers" for 2k maybe 3k it would be okay, but 15k for a printer with technology from 2020 is just insane.

@offsetmakerlab7514

17 күн бұрын

I hope you get to try one out, I'd love to see what you'd do with it!

Yuck, it has slice engineering parts. Apart from that glaring fault, it looks pretty well built, open source and a well laid out electronics panel are both great, but there weren't many details about the motion system, speeds and feed etc.

@3dexperiments

17 күн бұрын

It's an industrial product. "Temperature Rating 450°C" for the Slice Copper Head - and they stated in the video it can do 500C.

@TheEdgeofTech

17 күн бұрын

Thank you for your feedback! I can ask them about the speed and feeds, but mostly this thing would be used for very high temp filament and you would want to go slow for that. But it's definitely good info, so I will for sure ask!

@TheEdgeofTech

17 күн бұрын

@@3dexperiments I can't speak to that as I was going through what their specs are. But I will ask them! Thank you for watching!

@BeefIngot

17 күн бұрын

@@3dexperiments They do state this in their own video as well. I imagine its possible for a company to state a rating is one thing, but then later seen that a higher rating is fine too, or there could be revision changes, not that I'd ever want to defend slice, but that sounds completely feasible.