New Guinea - lessons from a cradle of agriculture and languages

This island is home to bananas, sugarcane and more languages than anywhere else. Watch how words, crops and people connect in a place now known to be an original cradle of agriculture.
Aid: docs.google.com/document/d/1y...
Voices: docs.google.com/document/d/1s...
Sources: docs.google.com/document/d/1y...
Art, narration and animation by me. Some of the music, too. See sources doc above for details.
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Most sounds by the Sawos people of Torembi village, recorded by Dr. John Tyman: www.johntyman.com/sawos/sfx.html

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  • @NativLang
    @NativLang2 жыл бұрын

    Pardon my absence. I return with something meaningful.

  • @ericksalvador5328

    @ericksalvador5328

    2 жыл бұрын

    and we will wait for whatever comes

  • @caseyhamm8822

    @caseyhamm8822

    2 жыл бұрын

    you wouldn’t even need to upload a 19 minute video for us to forgive you, but you did

  • @saulhendrix

    @saulhendrix

    2 жыл бұрын

    We missed you man, and we understand dont worry👍

  • @thomasgrantbailey3646

    @thomasgrantbailey3646

    2 жыл бұрын

    It only mattered that you return, there is nothing that needs pardoning

  • @cooperglick4865

    @cooperglick4865

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm just happy you're back

  • @atlasaltera
    @atlasaltera2 жыл бұрын

    It's finally here! Linguistic diversity, food archaeology, staple crops and ethnobotany, creolization, everything I could ask for.

  • @NativLang

    @NativLang

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whew! And woohoo!

  • @nerysghemor5781

    @nerysghemor5781

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah…it may be in the video (still at the beginning right now) but I’d heard this is the only place in the world to independently invent agriculture, as in, without influence from Mesopotamia, Mesoamerica, or civilizations that traded with them.

  • @dkuchtamaine

    @dkuchtamaine

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. If this is the direction NativLang is taking, I am so excited. Protecting the world's biodiversity and its cultural diversity go hand in hand.

  • @atlasaltera

    @atlasaltera

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dkuchtamaine Yea, totally! That's why I love ethnobotany.

  • @franciscoflamenco

    @franciscoflamenco

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nerysghemor5781 There's many different places that probably developed agriculture independently. These range from definitely independent (Mesopotamia, Mesoamerica) to most likely independent (Papua, West Africa, Indus Valley, China) to we don't know for sure if there was no outside influence (Nile River, Ethiopia, Eastern United States, Andes).

  • @AncientAmericas
    @AncientAmericas2 жыл бұрын

    You get 100 points for mentioning Amazonian forest gardens!! Also, the point you made of taro roots is also true of potatos and other tubers that grow in the Andean highlands. If you grow them at altitude the roots are forced to store more energy which means the roots and tubers get bigger than they would at lower altitudes. Great video as always!

  • @atlasaltera

    @atlasaltera

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hehe nice to see you here too! 😉

  • @sethmatson7654
    @sethmatson76542 жыл бұрын

    So glad to see you back! Seriously, your lingustics channel, and others, have been a huge driving force to me soon graduating with an anthropology degree.

  • @NativLang

    @NativLang

    2 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations!

  • @stojankovacic1524

    @stojankovacic1524

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wait, he has other channels?

  • @littleolliebenjy

    @littleolliebenjy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stojankovacic1524 Other KZreadrs, not his other KZread channels

  • @jnliewmichael4235

    @jnliewmichael4235

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stojankovacic1524 "and others" refers to other linguistic channels run by other people.

  • @i_teleported_bread7404

    @i_teleported_bread7404

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, great to have Nativlang back.

  • @gamermapper
    @gamermapper2 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing that you've talke d about ALL of the island if Papua and not only about the independent part like so many people unfortunately do. Because regardless of arbitrary colonial borders, all of this Melanesian island is incredibly diverse, with very original tribal traditions and languages

  • @rubenkoker1911

    @rubenkoker1911

    2 жыл бұрын

    it must have been a humongous mission to write this video, geography now's video over new guinea even gave up naming the ethnicities of three quarters of that part of the island, too bad the algorithme only cares about channels with recent succeses.

  • @thvtsydneylyf3th077

    @thvtsydneylyf3th077

    Жыл бұрын

    absolutely. theres about 1,000 different ethnic groups in PNG each with their own languages

  • @gamermapper

    @gamermapper

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thvtsydneylyf3th077 and the dame amount in Western New Guinea, currently controlled by Indonesia

  • @hoangkimviet8545
    @hoangkimviet85452 жыл бұрын

    India: "You know, my people speak to each other without understanding." New Guinea: "I know, right?"

  • @wildanfatihg
    @wildanfatihg2 жыл бұрын

    Orang asli di suatu negeri sangat paham dengan negerinya, sangat tahu tentang tanahnya, dan sangat kenal dengan manusianya. Terkadang orang dari luar lupa dengan hal-hal itu.

  • @nimmira
    @nimmira2 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see you back. For the record, "banana" in classical Arabic is طَلْح (TalH) but this word is not in use in modern Arabic. In modern Arabic it's مَوْز (mawz) and in most dialects it changes to (móz). I think the word comes from East African languages. Some say (and I'm not sure about this info) that the word (banana) comes also from Arabic بَنان (banán) which is one word for "fingers", but I leave that to experts in etymology to check.

  • @003mohamud

    @003mohamud

    2 жыл бұрын

    In Somali it's Moos. Ultimately from looking it up online I think it's probably Persian in origin.

  • @69isamyth.50

    @69isamyth.50

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@003mohamud it comes originally from tng, then it was borrowed by dravidian via austronesian, then sanskrit and finally middle persian and then arabic borrowed it.

  • @003mohamud

    @003mohamud

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@69isamyth.50 ah well as Socrates used to say, "You can't believe everything on the internet"

  • @takashi.mizuiro

    @takashi.mizuiro

    2 жыл бұрын

    In urdu its like maus

  • @needforfumo

    @needforfumo

    2 жыл бұрын

    In Persian it's moz too

  • @FfBrenhines
    @FfBrenhines2 жыл бұрын

    I spent the first 12 years of my life in a community of linguists in the Highlands of PNG and this video brought back memories and nostalgia, (as well as my complex feelings on that place) and taught me a lot of what I was too young to be interested in then. Thank you so much for making this video!

  • @fmlAllthetime

    @fmlAllthetime

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you miss it?

  • @FfBrenhines

    @FfBrenhines

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really

  • @bismuth7398
    @bismuth73982 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap! This isn't just your longest video in years. Unless I overlooked something, this is your second longest video ever after Thoth's Pill.

  • @NativLang

    @NativLang

    2 жыл бұрын

    Someone's been watching for a while ~ and your count matches mine!

  • @bismuth7398

    @bismuth7398

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NativLang Yup. I've been watching since your first video on Mongolian.

  • @user-yg1zj5dz9f

    @user-yg1zj5dz9f

    2 жыл бұрын

    i liked the hangul episode because i went thru the same process of creating a logical alphabet without knowing anything about korea,just as a childs game of writing in code

  • @STOCathain
    @STOCathain2 жыл бұрын

    I think it’s really profound how you placed the people in their world by combining linguistics with ecology. Bravo!

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos10002 жыл бұрын

    As a botanist I've always wanted to go to New Guinea. It really is one of the top global hotspots for plant diversity.

  • @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    2 жыл бұрын

    it’s amazing, the correlation between linguistic diversity and biodiversity!! Indigenous peoples really do know how best to live on this planet in many, many cases. no one people are perfect of course, but I think of all the hundreds of cultures that thrive without relying on the destruction of others.

  • @thvtsydneylyf3th077

    @thvtsydneylyf3th077

    Жыл бұрын

    for sure, theres this huge extinct volcano called Mount Bosavi in Niu Gini where they're found a bunch of new species of plants and animals

  • @VincenzOmaha
    @VincenzOmaha2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I'm the only one in my circle of friends and family who really digs linguistics so these videos are super important to me. Thank you!

  • @j0nni235

    @j0nni235

    2 жыл бұрын

    Friggin same lol

  • @BeneathTheBrightSky

    @BeneathTheBrightSky

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes same!

  • @vl2809
    @vl28092 жыл бұрын

    Wantok here! Thanks for shining the light on our island, peoples, and history 🥰

  • @pannekook2000
    @pannekook20002 жыл бұрын

    the taro example is a fantastic explanation of socially necessary labor-time

  • @siarhian10

    @siarhian10

    2 жыл бұрын

    Saluton 👀

  • @frechjo

    @frechjo

    2 жыл бұрын

    belegan profilbildon vi havas ;)

  • @siarhian10

    @siarhian10

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@frechjo uuu, esperanta konversacio ĉi tie

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson33572 жыл бұрын

    Every time I run across your channel I wish you would post more. There is a gentleness and openness to your stile of story telling that is rare.

  • @garciapriegogeorgemichael4957
    @garciapriegogeorgemichael49572 жыл бұрын

    This brought me to mind why linguistic is so interesting. That's not only about languages, it's all about people. Thank you very much for making this video

  • @bngrbngr4416
    @bngrbngr44162 жыл бұрын

    Tá an áthas orm go bhfuil tú arais. This video is amazing, I've learnt so much. The agricultural history of New Guinea changes my conception of world history. I've just been reading up on the history of the island, I didnt even know where it was an hour ago. Thank you very much.

  • @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    2 жыл бұрын

    if you enjoy learning about these peoples and their genius ways of farming, i highly recommend Tending the Wild by M Kat Anderson, and incredible book about the lifeways of Indigenous peoples in what we know of now as California

  • @bngrbngr4416

    @bngrbngr4416

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-nv5sn3tb4e thanks

  • @atlasaltera
    @atlasaltera2 жыл бұрын

    Great intro bits to get people interested in Papua! Some cool Did you Knows would have been that some of the sultanates with the most clout in history (controlling the spice hehe) spoke a Papuan language: Tidore and Ternate. Also, that the language range of TNG extended beyond the main island but all the way to Timor and possibly further west to Komodo. Plus...winged beans. We need more winged beans.

  • @AncientAmericas

    @AncientAmericas

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey! Funny seeing you here!

  • @Mr_Valentin.

    @Mr_Valentin.

    2 жыл бұрын

    The word banana comes from the mande language, in west Africa, it was later popularized by the Portuguese and the Spanish in the late 16th century.

  • @imokin86

    @imokin86

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't know that about the spice sultanates, thanks!

  • @atlasaltera

    @atlasaltera

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@imokin86 You're welcome! You might get sucked into a long Wiki-rabbit hole haha

  • @rifqifm6434

    @rifqifm6434

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Ternate Tidore area using Papuan language as lingua franca? Because in western SEA side we use Melayu Pasar

  • @martynnamorong2938
    @martynnamorong2938 Жыл бұрын

    It's a sunny Saturday here in Port Moresby with the south easterly winds blowing in from the Coral Sea. Thank you for featuring one of the world's oldest continuous civilization. Mipla tok tenkyu tru long yu long mekim dispela vidio! 🤎 🇵🇬

  • @g0blyn21
    @g0blyn212 жыл бұрын

    The Return of the King!!!

  • @ncmartinez_his
    @ncmartinez_his2 жыл бұрын

    I am SO respectful of the pov you've shared. "No farmers. No food."

  • @Kim_Jong-un1356

    @Kim_Jong-un1356

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, there is zero conflict between a monetary system, schools, electricity, science, roads, etc. and farmers. So the Papuans can have all of it.

  • @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it’s a bit deeper than that- their farms aren’t what most people around the world today think of as farms. our farms were once forests that were cut down, wetlands that were completely drained, or grasslands loosed and destroyed. their farms ARE the forests and the wetlands. they don’t destroy the ecosystems, they enhance them.

  • @stephenspackman5573

    @stephenspackman5573

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-nv5sn3tb4e I don't know. I'm English, and there's _so_ much folklore about acorns that you've got to wonder whether our relationship with trees wasn't very different within the span of our stories, if not our histories. This “modern” view that distinguishes forests from the “made” landscape could be an aberration everywhere. Not that it's my field, just this excellent video making me think.

  • @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephenspackman5573 your peoples' relationship with oaks is ancient and beautiful, you're right, but that aberration really is somewhat uniquely eurasian (from what I've found, anyway), because it kind of comes directly from mesopotamia, and then spread through that unique style of imperialism in concert with the abrahamic religions (especially christianity). most Indigenous people regardless of where they're from simply see the entire planet as home and as "made," just not the "made" that industrial peoples know. each Papuan nation is intimately shaping the landscape, they just do it with biodiversity (a recognition and profound love for our infinite living family) in mind, whereas our shaping is for humans only, and at times not even for all humans (like factories in poor neighborhoods making shit for the rich)

  • @stephenspackman5573

    @stephenspackman5573

    2 жыл бұрын

    @тито I'm not in disagreement. I don't really like something like “Eurasian” here because it covers a lot of people I know nothing of, so I went with “‘modern’” in quotation marks of mild derision in the hope that people would intuit my meaning. But, anyway, yes-though if our species has not been responsible for other disasters in earlier times, I'll also be amazed. Not everyone is stupid, but nor does anyone have a true monopoly on being too “clever” for their own good.

  • @gammamaster1894
    @gammamaster18942 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating video, I'd love to see a video on the Dené-Yeniseian hypothesis, or at least the Ket language. It's fascinating, and Edward Vajda, the foremost professor on the matter seems to be quite keen on collaborating with KZreadrs

  • @atlasaltera

    @atlasaltera

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree on this. I forget if NativLang referenced this on their Siberian video, but for sure I would like to see an independent video on this too. There's so much human migration tangents to explore in the topic. The Tlingit being an ancient offshoot, the more recent but impressive dispersal into the Southwest, the Pacific enclaves, and even a possible connection with Mongol Turkic hordes recorded in ancient Chinese sources.

  • @Bundpataka

    @Bundpataka

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@atlasaltera Turks and mongols aren’t closely related to ancient Siberian peoples. In fact the Turks originated as a humble agricultural people somewhere in like the Manchuria region of China or so, before being adopting a nomadic lifestyle and expanding to the great heights they achieved.

  • @atlasaltera

    @atlasaltera

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Bundpataka Hm, I'm not sure where you're coming from. What I am referring to is not origins, but at the time of ancient Chinese contact. At that time, Turkic, Mongolic, and Yeneisi-speaking peoples lived in close proximity around the Altai-Lake Baikal range and were all written about in Chinese accounts on frontier wars and border raids. But now that you brought up origins... lol. Yes, you are right that some of the latest findings suggest that Turkic peoples originated in the Manchurian region. Still, Manchuria's traditional inhabitants would have all been historically considered related to Siberian peoples. The Tungusic, Nivkh...

  • @jeffreyevennett1375
    @jeffreyevennett13752 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting stuff, thanks all the way from Milne Bay in PNG. We have so many varieties of banana here it's ridiculous. Most varieties are cultivated for food, but a few are cultivated or at least propagated for other purposes. Beads made from the seeds of wilder phenotypes are found in many local cultures, and one variety in the trobriand islands is cultivated for its large, thick leaves which are used to make grass skirts and are also used as currency.

  • @J.o.s.h.u.a.
    @J.o.s.h.u.a.2 жыл бұрын

    18 minutes of a NativLang video? Is this heaven?

  • @seid3366
    @seid33662 жыл бұрын

    9 months later, you made this baby. We're proud of you

  • @nerysghemor5781
    @nerysghemor57812 жыл бұрын

    I’d say that we forget traditional techniques at our own peril. Someone like me, a Westerner with little knowledge or experience with the nature right around me, could be totally hosed in the event of a cataclysm. Someone on another video suggested we might need to deliberately teach our local agriculture, hunting, and survival techniques.

  • @Ben-kv7wr
    @Ben-kv7wr2 жыл бұрын

    The Northern Woodlands Tribes in the so-called United States also practiced a very complex and intense form of forest gardening/ agriculture that involved regular fires. Roger Williams was the only coloniser to ever assert that the Natives' twice-yearly fires were, in fact, for agricultural purposes.

  • @qwertywillbecool

    @qwertywillbecool

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not the "so called" United States. It's the United States.

  • @gayvideos3808

    @gayvideos3808

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@qwertywillbecool literally the same thing

  • @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tending the Wild by M Kat Anderson is about the similar genius of Indigenous peoples in so-called California, such incredible ways of living. “Buen vivir,” truly.

  • @proudg9026

    @proudg9026

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-nv5sn3tb4e Can you please link the video or the source here? Thank you so much!

  • @proudg9026

    @proudg9026

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-nv5sn3tb4e Can you also link a source to the song at 5:34 and 14:08? Thanks again!

  • @aldurin
    @aldurin2 жыл бұрын

    This was one of the most beautiful videos that I've watched is this God forsaken site. Thank you for talking about PNG with so much care, paying so much attention to the indigenous peoples not as "exotics", but as other voices that need to be heard. The indigenous moviments from PNG, Australia, Brazil & Latin America, Africa, and elsewhere in the world can teach us how to "buen vivir". We need that. So, thanks and congratulations. Take your time between videos. I'll wait paciently. Obrigado. :)

  • @ejpaladin
    @ejpaladin2 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back, sir. Things have been quite…rowdy online in your absence. Hoping that you one day cover my people’s native language soon - Chamorro.

  • @tenkamenin7715
    @tenkamenin77152 жыл бұрын

    The interconnectedness of humanity and human history is much more complex and diverse than we fathom. It also goes back much further than agreed upon in contemporary academia.

  • @benkenobi6137
    @benkenobi61372 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have you back NativLang!

  • @niklasfink7520
    @niklasfink7520 Жыл бұрын

    Omg my recent hyperfocus is Papua New Guinea and its diverse cultures and languages and then I see your new video! Heaven.

  • @k-majik
    @k-majik2 жыл бұрын

    My father was born in Port Moresby and my uncle and cousins still live in Mount Hagen, so this video is especially interesting to me (although all your videos are fascinating).

  • @safuwanfauzi5014

    @safuwanfauzi5014

    2 жыл бұрын

    Austronesian are advanced people, build large ship, famous with outrigger boat n ship, rices, taro, buffalo, architecture(houses, palaces, temple), writing script, farmer, textiles, metalwork, built city n fort

  • @maapauu4282

    @maapauu4282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@safuwanfauzi5014 Buffalo? Metalwork? Could you please elaborate?

  • @safuwanfauzi5014

    @safuwanfauzi5014

    Жыл бұрын

    @@maapauu4282 Austronesian like malay, Javanese, bugis, minangkabau, Balinese, makassarese. but not Papuan they naked, no metalwork, no big ship, no stone structure, no writing script, no architecture , no farming or rice Paddy field

  • @safuwanfauzi5014

    @safuwanfauzi5014

    Жыл бұрын

    @@maapauu4282 Mini Pompeii in java Island "situs liyangan" ancient city, big temple like Prambanan n Gunung Padang, in Micronesia famous with Nan madol non in Papua have all these

  • @maapauu4282

    @maapauu4282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@safuwanfauzi5014 But Buffalo are in North America... and Papuans have clothes, some metalwork, sailing ships, logographies, AND farming, in fact, half of this video is about Papuan farming techniques. The only reason that Papuan societies have limited tech compared to the continental societies and the bigger islands is the lack of recources.

  • @littleolliebenjy
    @littleolliebenjy2 жыл бұрын

    So happy to see you back Josh! Congratulations on making the video, editing it, and releasing it! You earned it and every view you get! So excited for this! 🙏🥰❤️😃

  • @NativLang

    @NativLang

    2 жыл бұрын

    It took lots of work 💦so thanks for sticking around to watch 😊 ❤

  • @grovermartin6874

    @grovermartin6874

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NativLang You have built a better mousetrap! Lol. Thank you!

  • @proudg9026

    @proudg9026

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NativLang Can you please please link the source of the song at 5:34 and 14:08?. I would very very much be grateful for that. Thank you so much in advance!

  • @mattkuhn6634
    @mattkuhn66342 жыл бұрын

    Great video! The linguistics of Papua New Guinea are one of those things you hear about pretty much all the time in university while studying linguistics. Tok Pisin is particularly popular because it's a great way for English speakers to get a better understanding of the process of new languages coming about through creolization, but I feel that often reduces the sheer linguistic diversity of the island to a statistic. And it's good to call out the quasi-fetishistic focus on the island as being somehow "untouched." Regarding the question about growth, I think that should ultimately be up to the people of Papua New Guinea to decide for themselves. Obviously, the real question here is not "what should they do" but "what should we do," because if the outside world wanted to, it could take over and force change on the island. It already has, to some extent, though it seems like there is more international attention on protecting its cultures now than there was in the past. But we have to make sure that in our efforts to prevent their exploitation, we must not attach value judgments to their choices. It may be that some of them will choose their traditional lifestyles, taking only what they want and can use from the rest of the world. It may also be that some of them will choose to leave traditional agricultural and cultural practices behind and adopt a more modern form of agriculture or a different lifestyle entirely. It's easy for us, in a knee jerk reaction to colonialism, to say that "modernization" is bad, and they should stay traditional because traditional is good, but that can lead us to denying their self-determination just as colonialism does.

  • @vampyricon7026
    @vampyricon70262 жыл бұрын

    If you're taking suggestions, I'd like to see a video on the Eskaleut languages.

  • @maud3444
    @maud34442 жыл бұрын

    Yes! I've been hoping for a video on New Guinea for months now. I found it odd that you've not talked about it before because it's probably the most diverse (and maybe even oldest?) linguistic area in the world. So thank you!

  • @Chichi-sl2mq
    @Chichi-sl2mq2 жыл бұрын

    loved this one. love from Zimbabwe

  • @maapauu4282
    @maapauu42822 жыл бұрын

    Is there any possibility you could break down some languages? Like the Siberia video? Thanks from an indigenous Papuan!

  • @pollinationtechnician7553
    @pollinationtechnician75532 жыл бұрын

    I CLICKED RIGHT AWAY WHEN I SAW THE NOTIFICATION it’s always a good day when nativlang uploads:)

  • @kinikarok.w4736
    @kinikarok.w47362 жыл бұрын

    I'm from coastal Papua New Guinea and I'm trying my best to compile native names of plants, animals, and other words, term etc.. for everything.. but the problem is I don't know what some of them look like and I also need species lists (scientific names) which are very hard to find because most of the books I'm looking for are either restricted or sold .. I just want to save my traditional book of nature, preserve these native names of my dialect before they are lost forever

  • @andrewbrady8175
    @andrewbrady81752 жыл бұрын

    Best narrator on all of YT in my opinion and… I watch a lot of YT 😄

  • @isaweesaw
    @isaweesaw2 жыл бұрын

    This is a fascinating video. Papua New Guinea is such an underrated part of the world, and this video makes it even cooler. Thanks for sharing

  • @oreoresti6265
    @oreoresti62652 жыл бұрын

    Μπράβο φίλε μου. Με κάθε βίντεο, σε βλέπω να καλυτερεύεις κι να βελτιώνεις στην τέχνη σου.

  • @NativLang

    @NativLang

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ.

  • @didack1419

    @didack1419

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NativLang Sorry, can I ask how to search for that song on the video?

  • @HobbesTWC

    @HobbesTWC

    2 жыл бұрын

    είναι όντως καταπληκτικό κανάλι!

  • @Ggdivhjkjl

    @Ggdivhjkjl

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is all Greek to me.

  • @crystalmoon1

    @crystalmoon1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ggdivhjkjl it's all chinese to me

  • @CalvinLimuel
    @CalvinLimuel2 жыл бұрын

    A very meaningful video. Even when half of the island is part of my country, they have not been respected well. A lot of people voted for our president simply because he went there, as they thought their voices were marginal to the previous presidents. West Papuan people have been marginalized because of their darker skin color. Many Indonesian people may not even know that New Guinea has that many tribes and languages. You may have not thought that you did them justice, but you've pointed out so many important things that most people wouldn't have known about this island. So, thank you Josh.

  • @bopndop2347

    @bopndop2347

    4 ай бұрын

    Do you think if West Papuan's got a vote for Independence, they would honestly stay with Indonesia? What Joko has done for WP is great but be honest.

  • @abcddef2112

    @abcddef2112

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bopndop2347​⁠​⁠​⁠Yes if western new guinea and all of inhabitants now. Some region are ofc more likely to vote for separation especially in highland area, others are more nationalist and will vote for Indonesia. This will never be revisited because of the chaos it will cause since of who can vote itself will already cause massive conflict. One example: there is a legal term oap (original papuan) to basically differentiate Indonesians from papua or from outside papua. But since most of tribes are patrilineal, matrilineal descendants are not considered oap (since they didn't carry the clan name). Some are more accepting of foreigners like marind consider anyone to be marind if they 'behave marind' evidently javanese who have been intermarried with them for centuries still called javanese by the highlanders, Koiwai in Kaimana have plenty of patrilineal foreign descents of arabs/moluccans. Similarly Biak with chinese descents (although they adopted matrilineal surnames). After the vote of independence, will the result even be accepted or just go back to allegations of cheating like the old vote. In my opinion it will just cause more conflicts and sparks new wars not just in New Guinea but also in Indonesia. Some tribes (or even clans inside tribes) are more likely to be separatists other nationalists. Like its already second or third generations already member of TPNPB or members of TNI. Like my village in Kaimana have plenty of trikora veterans family whose children joined TNI. Or the Baliem valley's Dani in the highland, plenty of them sent soldiers to be member in TNI, they were also formerly trikora veteran. Baliem valley became a tourist site precisely because it is safe and not so many separatists. Autonomy as envisioned is 2000s is the best solution. But ofc like IRA and its numerous splinter groups in Northern Ireland (honestly apt comparison with many similarty with northern ireland of uvf and ira), there will always be people that disagree.

  • @aa4a-a4
    @aa4a-a42 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see the channel active again. I had almost given up on thinking it would come back

  • @AngryKittens
    @AngryKittens2 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of which, why have you not done Austronesian yet?

  • @tafellappen8551
    @tafellappen85512 жыл бұрын

    I was literally just peeking at your channel wondering when your next upload would be lmao

  • @stojankovacic1524
    @stojankovacic15242 жыл бұрын

    This is genuinely one of the best channels on KZread that I know of. These videos are practically art! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @karlwiklund2108
    @karlwiklund21082 жыл бұрын

    Really glad to see this channel is still active! Thank you for such an interesting episode too!

  • @michaelcastro1944
    @michaelcastro19442 жыл бұрын

    These videos really make you think and I'm here for it.

  • @SirMethos
    @SirMethos2 жыл бұрын

    As always, your videos seem to make the time just disappear, and your obvious enthusiasm draws me in, even beyond my own interest in linguistics. This is one of the (very)few channels, where I just click the moment I see a new video is up, and the only one where I know that I don't even have to watch the video, to know that I like it and click the appropriate thumbs-up button.

  • @saaya8964
    @saaya89642 жыл бұрын

    Listen, if you ever feel the urgent need to make an 8 hour video about this topic, PLEASE do so I'd drop everything to watch that

  • @aaronmarks9366
    @aaronmarks93662 жыл бұрын

    This is a beautiful and touching video, NativLang. I want to add, for all those interested in supporting the autonomy and lifeways of the Papuan peoples: the Indonesian government, which controls the western half of the island, is currently engaged in exploitative resource extraction there that is harming the environment, and is also encouraging the emigration of Javanese and other western Indonesians to western New Guinea as a form of settler-colonialism. This has led to clashes with West Papuan peoples, as well as police and military repression of the West Papuans, even leading to massacres in some cases. For anyone who wants to raise awareness and get more involved in stopping this attack on West Papuan sovereignty, please look for the Free West Papua Campaign on all social media platforms - you can get more information, see evidence of what's happening, get in touch with Papuan activists, and help support one of the oldest and most unique collection of societies on the planet. Thank you!

  • @danan2721

    @danan2721

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agreed with your comment until the settler-colonialism part. The migration is actually two-way because (West) Papuans also benefit from "affirmation" programs in which they are brought to other Indonesian parts to study (free and they get incentive) and work with special enrolment or hiring methods. About the Free West Papua Movement, I don't have any opinion as the voice of Papuans are actually diverged. There's that movement but also there are also pro-Indonesian groups. We actually need to listen to them more, but sadly the Indonesian government suppresses most political coverages from Papua

  • @ariaaaaaa

    @ariaaaaaa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danan2721 free west papua

  • @hmwat1623
    @hmwat1623 Жыл бұрын

    This video deserves so many more views. I've watched it a couple of times already

  • @renatooliveira9561
    @renatooliveira95612 жыл бұрын

    It's Very good to see you again here. I was feeling "saudades" (missing you). Will you make a video about the diferences of Brazilian Portuguese and Portugal Portuguese?

  • @siarhian10

    @siarhian10

    2 жыл бұрын

    i don't see the point, there isn't really enough interesting stuff to make a video on there. just what you would expect with dialect differences

  • @renatooliveira9561

    @renatooliveira9561

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@siarhian10 not even only dialects, but differences about pronunciation and orthography. And that's very interesting. Including some oddities that are coming in the Northeast of Brazil.

  • @siarhian10

    @siarhian10

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@renatooliveira9561 most languages have this sort of thing going on. He's already done a video on Scots, which is an extreme example where the lines between dialect and language are blurred, and if you want to go that way it would make more sense to do something like English or Arabic, or the varieties of Chinese, and you can even do that same thing for Gwenhwyseg in Welsh

  • @renatooliveira9561

    @renatooliveira9561

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@siarhian10 ok. No problem. It was just a suggestion.

  • @NativLang

    @NativLang

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for suggesting. The way I hear the grammar of verbs and pronouns, singulars and plurals in flux when Brazilians from different states speak, that alone could be a video

  • @Iniciadodelasflores
    @Iniciadodelasflores2 жыл бұрын

    ¡Me alegra mucho ver un video tuyo de vuelta! Es siempre un gusto verlos.

  • @MauveStingerStings
    @MauveStingerStings2 жыл бұрын

    Are you gonna do a video on the history of Portuguese?

  • @xhosagibran370
    @xhosagibran3702 жыл бұрын

    He’s back! Welcome back!

  • @nimedhel09
    @nimedhel092 жыл бұрын

    As always, your content is amazing. I love that you explored the languages in conjunction with the agricultural and cultural (in general) context and colonization. Food for thought.

  • @Jay_in_Japan
    @Jay_in_Japan2 жыл бұрын

    Papuan typology is my favorite subfield in linguistics. It's still a frontier, in many ways. So much work remains to be done... a big issue is just the paucity of field data. Which is not an easy thing to collect. Especially in a place like New Guinea.

  • @I_am_Irisarc
    @I_am_Irisarc Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of vegetative propagation, when we moved into a new house several years ago, there were several flowering bushes that my mother wanted to have cuttings of for her yard. The following is the method she had been taught to use to get the healthiest cuttings for transplanting. She would bend down a healthy looking lower branch of a bush, then put a large rock or brick on it to force it onto the ground with a pretty good sized amount of branch sticking out on the other side of the weight . She would sometimes add a little soil and fertilizer at the site to help it along as it put roots down into the ground under the rock. When it looked like it had a decent-sized little root system sent down, she would clip it off close to the rock on the parent bush side. Her catchphrase around our house became "put a rock on it". Any time it seemed the least bit appropriate, we would tease her with "Mom, look at this over here*. Should I put a rock on it?" *read: just about any old thing, not just plants

  • @SterbsMcGurbs
    @SterbsMcGurbs2 жыл бұрын

    My church has a family that serves as missionaries in PNG. They were explaining that the one specific language they were translating the Bible to thought of their nose as the life giving organ rather than the heart. So it was translated to "Love the Lord with all your nose".

  • @GizzyDillespee

    @GizzyDillespee

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good lord

  • @superstructure23

    @superstructure23

    2 жыл бұрын

    Horrible that people feel the need to spread their dogma and try to brainwash those people. Believe whatever you want, but actively proselytising just proves you think you are morally superior to everyone else in the world. You're not. You're just one of the many many religions that all try to figure out and explain the most human questions: what are we doing here and why. Your answer is not correct, as much as other peoples answers are not correct, and you are in no position to tell anyone what they should believe in, just respect each other.

  • @SterbsMcGurbs

    @SterbsMcGurbs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine thinking that you are so morally superior that you have to tell someone with an anecdote briefly mentioning religion relating to New Guinea languages how wrong their life is when all they were doing is sharing a simple anecdote.

  • @superstructure23

    @superstructure23

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SterbsMcGurbs I meant in general people who proselytise. I don't know what you do in your life.

  • @SterbsMcGurbs

    @SterbsMcGurbs

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@superstructure23 it's a good thing smart, civilized people like you are protecting those defenseless people over in PNG. Someone might brainwash them

  • @douglasgriffin694
    @douglasgriffin6942 жыл бұрын

    This is the most wholesome KZread channel I’ve run across! Thanks so much for the quality content!

  • @taytsay1
    @taytsay12 жыл бұрын

    I was just watching a bunch of your videos a couple weeks ago and hoping we’d get another one soon! Thanks for shining a spotlight on PNG and especially on the indigenous cultures that call the island home.

  • @roshanfey
    @roshanfey Жыл бұрын

    that "thanks for watching" and the quote before it were so soft yet profound. this is a beautiful direction to take the channel in. you really embody the root of what draws me to linguistics, history, and study of culture: compassion for and preservation of human diversity.

  • @joshmorcombe4907
    @joshmorcombe49072 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE this, like the changes in style. The longer form, the cultural focus as a foil to language and the exploration of the introspective ideas that we can draw from it all is so amazing. Please keep this up, you're quickly becoming one of my favorite channels :D

  • @anthonyminyard2715
    @anthonyminyard27152 жыл бұрын

    Was just rewatching your French video a couple days ago and was wondering when you would post again! Very happy it happened so soon!

  • @MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee
    @MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee2 жыл бұрын

    May the people of New Guinea be free from outside oppression from Sorong to Samarai.

  • @jeffreyevennett1375

    @jeffreyevennett1375

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Eawedo" (greetings/ thanks) from Samarai Island

  • @terencesakamoto4416
    @terencesakamoto4416 Жыл бұрын

    I get goosebumps when watching this video. Thanks Nativlang, for hitting us with masterpieces every now and then.

  • @SoleaGalilei
    @SoleaGalilei Жыл бұрын

    I had a colleague who'd lived in PNG for a time, and the way she spoke about the people there always struck me as quite negative and patronizing. This video reminded me that I always wanted to learn more about the place and get a broader perspective.

  • @Nagin-zt6sc

    @Nagin-zt6sc

    8 ай бұрын

    Probably one of the expatriates who let stereotypic opinions about our people get the better of her before she even got here. It is our culture to make an alien/foreigner become an honorary member of a clan and given a traditional name. After that, you're no longer a stranger, you're part of the family. Its sad she never got to experience that.

  • @user-pp6kd7ut4k
    @user-pp6kd7ut4k2 жыл бұрын

    He rises from the dead!! Welcome back!! Great video as always 🌟

  • @rolinazmitia5622
    @rolinazmitia56222 жыл бұрын

    It's always exciting to see a new video from you, mate. Honestly, you've been the inspiration from where my love for languages, their people and their history came about, so I thank you enormously for that. Whichever way you decide to manage the channel, you have our support. Hasta luego and best of luck!

  • @zeroeyedpete
    @zeroeyedpete2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate so much you making videos like this to bring focus on voices that aren't heard enough.

  • @zodiaczennial3676
    @zodiaczennial3676 Жыл бұрын

    You made me fall in love with language. I'm happy to wait a year between videos when the quality is so constant, again and again. I love the thought and heart behind your curiosity, it encourages me to keep searching.

  • @semaj_5022
    @semaj_50222 жыл бұрын

    This may be your best episode yet and made me want to learn much more about Papuans, their history and their languages. Good on you for not just telling these fascinating linguistic stories but giving a glimpse into the reality of people that we(in the west) tend to "fictionalize" in our minds.

  • @finnnorris884
    @finnnorris8842 жыл бұрын

    YAY YOU'RE BACK! It's really good to see one of your videos again, I was missing them so much! Honestly, I think that they've helped me sort out what I wanna do with my life

  • @apta9931
    @apta99312 жыл бұрын

    This was so worth the wait! Edit, because I commented before I finished watching: The commentary on colonization and its effects on the country was sobering, but well needed.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam2 жыл бұрын

    Only 8 million people are speaking 800+ languages 🐋

  • @mauricevanderheiden5557
    @mauricevanderheiden55572 жыл бұрын

    my deepest thanks. I´ve been trying to get good information on early agriculture in guinea since I saw a map showing it as a cradle of agriculture. But the way they did it is honestly more amazing than I ever could have imagined.

  • @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    @user-nv5sn3tb4e

    2 жыл бұрын

    thinking about the Indigenous peoples of the Amazon and their gorgeous food forests as were mentioned in the video just makes me think of how amazing it is, what humans can accomplish when we learn to live with all life on earth instead of in opposition to it.

  • @taprobanna
    @taprobanna Жыл бұрын

    I’m absolutely obsessed with the way you explain things. Your words are somehow both poetic and visual, and make complex topics so easy to understand!

  • @tali.k57
    @tali.k572 жыл бұрын

    Oh my gosh!!! I audibly gasped seeing you put out a new video! After years of being a fan & lurker I’m finally achieving my dream and studying linguistics & East Asian studies in university. Big thanks to your amazing channel which has been getting endlessly recommended to my classmates/fellow ling nerds. Welcome back! ❤️

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor2 жыл бұрын

    I have been waiting for the day NativLang covers the dinosaur island just above my country. Papua New Guinea is fascinating for its sheer density of languages!

  • @lingoteen
    @lingoteen2 жыл бұрын

    When the wolrd needed him the most, he came back

  • @johnlastname8752

    @johnlastname8752

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's a wolrd?

  • @lingoteen

    @lingoteen

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnlastname8752 I'll leave it like this

  • @An-Islander
    @An-Islander2 жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this video for about 8 years, since I read Guns, Germs and Steel! Also: the ending made me cry

  • @bluetannery1527
    @bluetannery1527 Жыл бұрын

    this channel is... just absolutely phenomenal

  • @Domiplaysontheiphone
    @Domiplaysontheiphone2 жыл бұрын

    Yes your back 👍

  • @georgeaust1
    @georgeaust12 жыл бұрын

    I so appreciate your channel! Linguistics is such a broad and complex field and I love how you break these complex concepts down into something easy to grasp for a casual reader while never losing focus of the fundamentally human nature of language use. Thank you 💜

  • @user-ii5kd9fi9p
    @user-ii5kd9fi9p2 жыл бұрын

    Omg you're back! Dude, I LOVE everything you do, you're the best thing that has ever happened to youtube!

  • @alanbralan9670
    @alanbralan96702 жыл бұрын

    So happy you're still uploading!

  • @kovaxim
    @kovaxim2 жыл бұрын

    This channel is like a welcomed guest, someone you don't expect, but wish they came, never knowing when or if they will come, so when they do, you're overjoyed and wish to spend as much time with them as possible. The videos are a gift to us from a far away land, exotic, intriguing, thought provoking. It can be like a physical object, ranging from a trinket to a carpet big enough for the room. It can be a story or a song, you wish to listen to it again and again, look at the details, ask about specific parts and love hearing the person explaining it. Really, this channel is like that one dream topic you like and you're always excited to experience it. Sometimes you don't pay attention and miss it, but you can always come back to it. Thank you so much for creating this channel and such videos.

  • @mesabzu9922
    @mesabzu99222 жыл бұрын

    Ooo just as I picked up new books for Hiri Motu and Tok Pisin! I love Papua and its people, and can't wait to spend time there learning and engaging with the peoples that call the island home! Love from Australia!

  • @ellermg
    @ellermg2 жыл бұрын

    Had to read the notification again because I couldn't believe it. Happy to have you back!

  • @rzeka
    @rzeka2 жыл бұрын

    Your drawings are getting better man, keep it up!

  • @Mrs._Fenc
    @Mrs._Fenc2 жыл бұрын

    i love people

  • @pauldenhelder
    @pauldenhelder Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful. I love this area of the world so much. Also, you are my favourite KZreadr

  • @newenglandgreenman
    @newenglandgreenman2 жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful video! I probably watch about 10 KZread videos a day, and this is the best I've seen in years. This is a beautiful way to address some of the most important questions facing our species today.

  • @ShatnerLover
    @ShatnerLover Жыл бұрын

    This is one of only two channels I support on Patreon. The videos have been very far between lately, but they’re always worth the wait

  • @arealhuman3677
    @arealhuman36772 жыл бұрын

    Glad you’re back man! I love your channel. Great video and great channel

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