New Ford E-Transit electric review - the most important van of 2022
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New Ford E-Transit electric review - the most important van of 2022. The Ford E-Transit van is probably the most important commercial vehicle in Europe on sale in 2022. Jonny reviews one on a day's real world road trip from his home to Doncaster (78 miles), then Doncaster to Luton (143 miles), then home (70 miles). Why? To collect a Honda Civic Type-R engine from Synetiq salvage and drop off to be tuned and rebuilt with Dream Automotive. Said VTec engine is destined to end up in his Austin Allegro sleeper project build.
Designed to feel as familiar as possible, the dependable Ford Transit EV van is available in up to 25 variants (including chassis cabs, double cabs and chiller units) and two motor outputs (135kw / 184PS or 198kw / 269PS) but all have the same 400V 68kWh lithium-ion batt pack.
Transit's WLTP range is between 166 or 196 miles depending on the wheelbase and roof size. Van tested is L3 H2. Load volume also varies between9.5 and 15.1 M3, with a max payload of 1758kg.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
5:33 PRICES
6:40 Collecting goods
7:18 Load space
7:54 Payload
8:25 Cargo loaded
9:32 Synetiq salvage yard tour
11:20 Doncaster to Luton drive
13:10 Infotainment
14:08 Regen braking
15:15 Rapid charge pit stop
16:28 Charging stats
17:15 Ford Pro app
18:15 Jonny's mileage
19:25 E-Transit controls
21:42 Poo pit stop
22:30 Rival EV vans
24:41 Jonny's dislikes
25:08 Arriving in Luton
26:00 Unloading Type R engine
26:56 Unboxing the Civic engine
27:10 VERDICT
#newfordtransit #electricvan #evvan #newev #thelatebrakeshow
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Johnny, could you tell us non EV driving folk real world, what that cost to do the whole trip please? Ie charging at home to back to home empty… ta 👍
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
Home charging tends to be cheapest, depending on your elec tariff. Mine probably filled this for less than £5. Rapid charging on the hop like this usually ends up costing between 35-50p per KWh. That rose sharply in the last 9 months, annoyingly. So ideally you want to slow charge at a depot or home, and task vans like this on journeys that won't need a charge, or can be charged during a manditry lunch break at depot or with rapid charge provider whom the company has a deal with.
@simonstokes6561
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow Instavolt now 57p a kw😬
@craighennell5700
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow yes but! To a complete novice, non EV driver like me… How much would that round trip have cost? I’m interested it working out. The difference between EV cost compared with derv 👍
@fbeale3537
Жыл бұрын
It's not just the price of the charge to consider, if your working the down time while the van charges is costing you money.
@timrawlings1511
Жыл бұрын
@@fbeale3537 As Johnny said in the video that totally depend on what you use your van for for the minority of trips. I us my Nissen env200 as a handyman van and charge it at home over night or from solar at the weekend. I there for have less down time charging it then I had with my old van and going to fill it up at a petrol pump. If you are doing longer trips a lot that need a rapid charge then yes there will be down time or at lest time you can use to do paper work that would need to be done anyway as it charges.
How the hell will we draw crude things on white vans if they no longer have diesel soot on the back of them?!
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
True fact. 'I wish my husband woz this dirty' etc.
@matthewmason8982
Жыл бұрын
Marker pen? “I wish my Mrs was this quiet”
@MrOvershoot
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow Most vans don't get sooty its just road grime, so we can still make comments that Dan the driver has a misses that's dirtier than his van
@dashcam2417
Жыл бұрын
When is the last time you saw diesel soot on a modern , regular serviced euro 6 van .... Answer is never.
@martinlewis967
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewmason8982 I assume that your missis didn’t see that😂
I love how reviews on this channel tend to feel like documentaries. It always feels like I'm learning something.
@RAFchurchlawford4469
Жыл бұрын
Yes, learning how NOT to drive. Frequently taking your eyes of the road is not clever, nor is driving one handed. Apart from that he's great.
@wowmanhaha
Жыл бұрын
@@RAFchurchlawford4469 Are you part of Bomber Command?
@markvbickley
Жыл бұрын
Surely you mean like an 'advertisement'!
Using the air conditioner...the sacrifices he makes for his job are immense.
@MrOvershoot
Жыл бұрын
Yes he didn't bite when I asked 😉
The "fuel card" idea and billing work for your home charging are genius. This is why Ford just get commercials don't they.
@sahhull
Жыл бұрын
I like cash... hate cards and electronic payments
@darmou
Жыл бұрын
@@sahhull But then you have to go back to the boss with all your receipts, er no thanks.
I always learn more from a JS vehicle review - thorough, professional, informative. Keep up the good work Jonny.
Mate, you're amazing. Curious, investigative, and you automatically extend your visit to the salvage yard and have readily available information that makes your shows that much more engaging and entertaining! Other than the exceptional EV, I think that was on of the highlights of this video! (9:28) Please do more of those, I think it illustrates perfectly what it means to use a certain vehicle. doesn't have to be limited to vans, although they beg for it of course. Help someone move with a car, collect a dish washer, etc. Plenty of silly every day examples that suddenly become jewels of television (if YOU do it of course ;-) Absolutely riveting episode. Well done man!
There's nobody else I'd watch on KZread chatting while driving a van down a road. Quality as always Jonny!
@Jin-Ro
Жыл бұрын
@george ion It's an advert, not a review.
Those 2 guys in the passenger seat that always seem to have their hoodies up asleep will be most impressed with the serene transformation
I worked for a car parts shop as a delivery driver for 2 months this summer and I would have loved this e-Transit instead of the slow and loud diesel Transit I drove. Good job Ford!
@martinnilsson5295
Жыл бұрын
Hope u wont need go to far Emil. Motorväg funkar ej
Rather than going for the sexiest/fastest/most efficient/most costly sound system/ugliest grille/4-wheel-steering/proprietary charging/number of seat massage/0-60/Nurburg laps, Ford focuses on practical, economical, solutions to people's transportation needs, just like they have done for over 100 years.
@bubba842
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they do in Europe, because they don't In North America.
@tonyshipton8896
Жыл бұрын
With a tiny range
@njk9989
Жыл бұрын
What? Are you saying the massaging seats in the new Mercedes EV is over the top? More practical than picking up a new friend for a hand massage with a happy ending then being tossed in the pokey ROTFL
Glad to see that I’m not the only one who has emergency Twiglets Jonny. That and a Reef T-Shirt - pure class!! Every time I watch one of your vids I come back brighter.
I miss Yorkies. Great video. Love the grey clouds at the end, typical summer weather 🤣
Ford appear to have nailed this. Great engineering and lots of thought about real world usability. Could be a game changer.
@ludwigkranzlein9893
Жыл бұрын
Only shortcoming in my opinion are the towing capabilities.
@carholic-sz3qv
Жыл бұрын
@@ludwigkranzlein9893 it’s definitely not made for towing
@PiOfficial
Жыл бұрын
@@ludwigkranzlein9893 See plenty of big vans without tow bars anyway. We tow a lot in groundworks and in landscaping but delivery drivers/kitchen fitters/flooring/locksmiths/ may never need to tow anything’s
Once again Jonny hits the nail on the head. I'm all for an EV society. Of course there will always be pros and cons towards them, such as expensive to buy and the range isn't as good as it's ICE equivalent but they would slot into a daily routine for companies such as Royal Mail and Euro Car Parts, small route driving and back to the depot. Would like to see more EV commercial reviews along with the ever popular barn finds! Top job as always!
@Taz1451
Жыл бұрын
Only thing people don't mention is the creation of all these new vehicles negates any kind of benefit to the planet. Why not retrofit existing transits instead of creating more? Why is there this big incentive to scrap cars in the UK? I'm not against electric, I'm against this 3 year life cycle of cars
@garyhalkon8749
Жыл бұрын
@@Taz1451 I do agree partly with retrofitting, however would it benefit the remaining life expectancy of the vehicle it has been fitted to or would it be false economy? Good and bad points to everything, but not everyone would want to retrofit, even to an relatively young vehicle.
@georgedaville4662
Жыл бұрын
For a high percentage of daily deliveries, EV is the answer. Great review Jonny, you showcased this vehicle perfectly. Glad you picked up on the touchscreen angle, I noticed it from the off. I personally find touchscreens very distracting! I think Ford have a winner here, just a pity it is not made in Southampton! At least Stellantis are investing in the UK for EV manufacturing. 👍😎
@domefford864
Жыл бұрын
After the 3 year lease then what? Be interesting to see how Amazon get rid of their ev fleet. Would you take on a ev van with 80k on the clock with no warrant?
@Taz1451
Жыл бұрын
@@domefford864 scrap them, which leaves us with the same problem, and at some point we'll reach a saturation point for where used batteries go, which means where do they get recycled?
I just realized something: the best vehicle reviews all made by British KZreadrs! 👍👍👍 I enjoyed, thanks! Greetings from 🇨🇦
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
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My first video of "The late brake Show" - worth every minute. Great Job. Greetings from Germany.
Good to see it's rusting underneath already!
@richardharrold9736
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be a Transit if it didn't rot faster than an overripe windfall apple...
Another great video as always JS! Just don’t get caught going over 60 mph in your van, you never know who’s watching 👀🚨🚓😂😂
@PiOfficial
Жыл бұрын
You can go 70 on the motorway mate
In 1970 our drummer had a Transit with double rear wheels and 6 aircraft seats and we used it to get to gigs, and cart all our gear. Happy days on the road!
Again an excellent review. Jonny has a fantastic pace of delivery, and an easy to listen to style.
I really enjoyed this video. Euro car parts on the Isle of Wight have trialed a few different electric vans (Nissan env200, Renault Kangoo E, vauxhall vivaro E and the maxis E deliver 3) and we found them to be ideally suited to the needs.
@evilmario6061
Жыл бұрын
Not surprising, on the island! Great to hear, though
Should have put it straight up against the bulkhead via the side door .😟 Then if you slam the brakes on in an Emergency it's not going to slide up the bed and slam into that thin steel sheet of a partition behind you . Bad mistake 😔
@robertallen3441
Жыл бұрын
True story, my late Dad collected a new engine for a tractor in a virtually brand new mk 1 Transit in the 60's. No side door those days, so it had to sit between the wheelarches. No tie down lugs, so was roped to the supports on each side. Halfway home he had to do an emergency stop, van stopped, engine didnt. Van sides were like a hour glass. Sides got pushed out, but the van never looked right again.
@domefford864
Жыл бұрын
Also handles better with the weight in front of the rear axle. The van and side door is designed to take a pallet. As a tradesmen/van driver for 30 years, I wouldn’t buy this van if it was half the price.
@888johnmac
Жыл бұрын
lol , glad i'm not the only person who thought this
@GregsMowing
Жыл бұрын
If it was behind the bulkhead and he accelerated hard it could go flying to the back doors and mysteriously fall out if doors not shut right. Bulkheads are strong now, just needs people to now how to use a ratchet strap.
@CiBi1968
Жыл бұрын
@@GregsMowing You load a Van from the front to the rear . When you see an Curtain side Artic drop any load from the front they always move the load to the front again. I have lost track of how many times in 30yrs of driving a Forklift that I have had to re-arrange a load for a driver to make it safe.
Never thought I'd enjoy a review of a van but this was fantastic!
Johnny, love it ! The difference between a 'TV' review and YT ... I don't think TV would ever say ' we are stopping for a quick charge as the cameraman needs a Poo" :) ;)
Top drawer review as usual, thank you johnny
Our company has just made the jump to order 5 E-transits to do central London chilled food drops, our fleet is of close to 100 vans almost nationwide so only a small portion but I'm sure testing will be done to expand. A big change in form as we've historically had Iveco Dailys. Really interested to see how they get on. I feel like the blue on the grille is like that plastic film you get covering new chrome and needs to be removed :D
@Richard482
Жыл бұрын
How's your company getting on with the new vans?
Another great review and lovely filmed piece, and its a van!?. I always enjoy this channel, keep up the great work Jonny and team.
Great video. Really enjoyed that. Cool T-shirt too. Seen Reef many times over the years. Fantastic live.
I’m not in the market for a van but I had to watch because a) Jonny b) I needed to know what he was transporting c) no-one else does videos of this quality
Great video. I was expecting the van to have similar power sockets to the E150 that's just been released. These would be a big plus point for trades.
Quality review Jonny! Your audio is back on point too after a few videos where it was difficult to hear your guests. I suppose car caves are much harder for sound quality. look forward to the next one 👍
I quite like your reviews! You do an excellent job and make it real for people. Well done!
As someone who often clocks up 250 motorway miles a day in a Transit Custom, this is an interesting one. It’ll make a lot more sense when cheap chain hotels offer charging though.
@Brian-om2hh
Жыл бұрын
It'll come. It has to.....
@DEADB33F
Жыл бұрын
Are you doing so fully loaded? If not then in the future I'm guessing you'll be able to sacrifice some cargo capacity for an extended range battery. ...Something like that might be useful for those whose vans carry lower density loads but over longer distances.
@logicalChimp
Жыл бұрын
@@DEADB33F Unless you're talking fitting a secondary battery or similar, the reduced weight won't significantly impact range once up to speed on the motorway (mass is a killer in stop-start traffic because it takes more energy to get it moving... but once it's up to speed it take very little effort to maintain that speed)
@alabar9795
Жыл бұрын
If by interesting u mean adding 2 3 hrs to your day any paying insane amounts of money for fast charging
@flyingpanhandle
Жыл бұрын
@@alabar9795 The cost of fast charging for that battery pack is still cheaper than a tank full of diesel.
Real world test - bit of fly tipping, reverse into a NatWest, load 2 tons of loose gravel in the back..
@MattyEngland
Жыл бұрын
... Once fully charged, steal the charging cable for the copper content
Brilliant vid Jonny. Mate; you must be going like a racehorse with all that coffee and caprisun!!! 😉 That van is the doggys danglers and absolutely ripe for a camper conversion!
Love it! Love it! Love it! Jonny, yes absolutely a must for every business user who can run a fleet of vans. Thanks for a great and different video, Love it! Love it! Love it!
Hope they release a dual motor 4x4 verison. Would make a great adventure van / camper conversion.
@davejenvey3598
Жыл бұрын
You can't carry electric with you. But Jerrycan.
@leedstown
Жыл бұрын
It would have a range of 10 miles
@shanestewart4905
Жыл бұрын
Hmm, a visit a charger three times a day adventure van.
@jamesellsworth9673
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Camper conversion replaces cargo load. 4x4 has been my go-to drive train for decades of wet, snowy road trips, as well as for added traction on curves.
@DEADB33F
Жыл бұрын
@@leedstown Why? The second motor would be disengaged most of the time. I mean yeah, it'd be eating into your load capacity a bit, but wouldn't be using any leccy unless you engaged it for off-road use.
My favourite feature of this entire van is the standard fuel gauge, and I really hope they use this on ALL of their future electric vehicles. This alone would remove almost all range anxiety due to it's familiarity.
@davidmoralesgarcia9365
Жыл бұрын
I have a SEAT Mii Electric and has exactly that same type of "fuel" gauge, just like anormal regular car. And it works quite well for me :D
@RLTtizME
Жыл бұрын
The gauge has a little chunk of coal that moves across the dial.
@jasonkillsformomy
Жыл бұрын
If the look of the gauge is the reason for your anxiety then it's not real, but placebo.
@Robert-cu9bm
Жыл бұрын
Only because of the chip shortage.
@Robert-cu9bm
Жыл бұрын
@G T Yeah, but when you get a EV you also get a bad bladder causing you to need to go to the toilet every 2hrs.
Good review Johnny, very capable van. Love the REEF T-shirt too. New album is great 👍
My wife and I always look forward and enjoy your videos (you guys are awesome). Riley, please do not wear your wedding band while operating heavy machinery. Your finger may catch on something (which happened to me once but I was lucky) or get squeezed between heavy objects... No one outranks General Safety...
Good effort from Ford. I'll admit I was skeptical but Ford has got a good combination of range, performance, capacity and price.
I wonder how quickly Sabine could’ve got this transit around the Nordschleife. RIP
@richardharrold9736
Жыл бұрын
It's a much bigger, taller van than the one she hustled round the Ring. The equivalent to that now is the small FWD one which is unrelated to this.
@Rhyd
Жыл бұрын
@@richardharrold9736 weight is all down low though, so could see faster cornering. Bet she would have loved the new ev van
@richardharrold9736
Жыл бұрын
@@Rhyd hmm, maybe, but it’s much wider and much longer too... I still think the smaller van would be a much better Ring tool. At Silverstone (wide, flat and fast), this might work better.
@Rhyd
Жыл бұрын
@@richardharrold9736 very true there are plenty of factors. The lack of needing to change gears etc. I bet it’ll still be a right laugh around a track though 😅
@richardharrold9736
Жыл бұрын
@@Rhyd also, Sabine was no fan of the Green movement, she was actively campaigning against windfarm developments in the Eifel... so what she'd think of of EVs I don't really know!
Loving the Reef t shirt! As you say, Foooorrrrdddds seem to have over delivered on this one. It's a good sign. Not moved over to the electric world yet (car not van) but my next car will be. Stella video as always! 👌
Excellent, lots of good information and professionally delivered, Johnny please make more content we love it.
We all have different opinions on EVs and this why I love Jonny’s channel he gives a down to earth review that makes sense in the real world use. He also seems to have an unbiased opinion as he his also a fan of ICEs, unlike channels which just deals with ev propaganda. Keep up the great work 👍🏻😊
That rear axle and suspension setup looks perfect for future EV conversions!
@timburton1080
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and those battery packs!
Phil from Dream automotive is a great guy - I had never heard of Dream (not being a Honda owner) but I chatted for ages to him at Goodwood about all sorts - top bloke.
I’ve been weighing up the options with regards replacing my 2018 Renault trafic 1.6 diesel. I’ve looked at the transit phev but at £40+ and 40ish mpg (I’ve seen evidence by looking at dashboard photos of ones for sale) it’s hard to make a business case to spend that sort of corn on a van when I’m getting 34mpg from my trafic that cost me £16k new in 2018. It’s going to be a case of waiting for the prices to reduce before I commit to buying an Ev van. Having recently spoken to my Renault dealer a PHEV Trafic is in the pipeline but an EV version isn’t coming any time soon! The range of the e-transit is perfectly adequate for my needs (and all that) so I’m definitely onboard. Great film as always Jonnie 👍🏼🏆
Reef Tee 👍🏼👍🏼 This van is definitely a game changer for the courier industry. When I was a courier before my current job the 18 plate tranny I had (the same wheelbase and height as this one) I was filling up 3 times a week and my round averaged 100 miles a day, 56 of them getting to and from my delivery area. Now I do long distance in a sprinter Luton, until a manufacturer can bring out an EV Luton capable of 400 miles a day we’ll still be using Diesel engines.
@darrenlomax1283
Жыл бұрын
I do 100 miles a day in my 2.2 econetic 3.5t and im getting 700 miles per fill up. I did get 400 until i learned how to drive it economically. My old 2.0l used to get me to london and back on 2/3rds of a tank. The same journey uses a whole tank in my mk7. My mk7 is 10 years newer than my mk6 was. So how has this been allowed, the emissions regs are a fraud. My old car put out 221gkm and my 16 year newer car puts out 174gkm yet im getting the same mpg on the same roads. Its all lies and im getring really tired of it. We're being played for a much bigger reason than I can think of.
@Dan23_7
Жыл бұрын
@@darrenlomax1283 Road tax is a fraud, you just have to look at the state of them. I drive a sprinter Luton 316 twin turbo, I get 350-400 miles per tank but it depends on how much motorway compared to urban and also how loaded we are. I don’t pay for the fuel though thank Fook When I started here last April a full tank from 50 mile reserve cost about £90 Now it’s £125-30
Great vid on the eTransit and in depth. One thing i noticed Ford have missed and I’m sure if the great Sandy Munro had it up on a ramp as you showed on the rear suspension shot, they have lots of space under the rear floor area, behind the drive/suspension unit and rear valance to have a sunken rear underbody storage area as in Tesla MS etc? Small hatch in the rear floor area. Also, I noticed in the American version there’s two 230v a/c outlets in the rear. Will they add these to the UK vn as well as Vehicle to Load/Grid option? Having this electric power options to power electric tools, charge hand power tools etc etc would be a great advantage v other brands.
@TheLDunn1
Жыл бұрын
Yes, its called Pro Power Onboard, it is located inside the cargo bay on the right hand side between wheel arch intrusion & the rear cargo door 2.3kw output, two UK plug sockets
Great in depth review of the E Transit, I can see a certain named rain forest online shopping site using these. I first spotted the E Transit a few weeks ago at my local ford dealer and I think it will sell and name sense to a lot of businesses. You mention the mirror control, the auto box knob looks like a adapted mark 7 fiesta heater control!
I’m in the U.S. I recently purchased the 2023 E Transit for my small business and so far it’s awesome. The range could be better, I get 120 miles per full battery charge but I drive 80 miles per day at the most. We ordered the Ford home charger and are about to have it installed. This is new technology for me and I had many questions doubts but now I’m sure it’s gonna be a positive for our finances. And we were able to get it for $49,000 so it was a no brainer.
A 25%+ bigger battery / range and a 22kw charger would really open this type of van up to more.
I like the fact it will bill the company for charging at home, if you have a company van and need to cherge at home at least you will get itt back and it will be tax free and relate to you're actual charging cost.
Hi Johnny another great video in your excellent style always look forward to your next video. How's your home project going take care
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, thanks for watching. I'm afraid our home build was dashed on the rocks by Covid related spiralling building costs. We are selling up. Really sad, but needs must.
Great video. Thanks for highlighting how important these vehicles are going to be in the near future.
That £9k difference is interesting. At current rapid charge and fuel prices, for the frugal driver I reckon it would take more than 3 years to recoup, but many van drivers are not frugal and that really hurts the diesel mpg. Plus charging overnight at cheaper rates, a lot of variables but ultimately it's going to be cheaper.
As well as steelies and a hi-vis vest, a copy of The Daily Star sitting on the dash against the windscreen would top it off 😂😂
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
It was in the above-cab cubby
Once again Jonny great content, how many miles did you cover how many times did you top up and how long did it take to top up and at what cost.
I work for Royal Mail and the depot I work in has recently switched to a 95% electric fleet. A combination of Peugeot Experts and Mercedes. The Experts are excellent with a range of 140 miles and very nice to drive. The Mercedes only have a range of 80 miles and seem to suffer from excessive tyre wear.
I half expected Richard to be involved with the intro!
Great vid as always! electric vans make total sense now that a decent pack can be fitted to them. The fleet savings are going to be big for a lot of the bigger companies. I already see electric company vans on the roads and I can't wait for them to be the majority of vans
@RLTtizME
Жыл бұрын
Yeah...UPS deliveries within a 3 miles radius of their distribution center. Marvelous.
@timscott3027
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Amazon have ev vans round my city
@sahhull
Жыл бұрын
@@timscott3027 Yeah. Im constantly getting apologised to for late deliveries from the Amazon driver. Those electric vans dont have the range when carrying weight and he's often left waiting for recovery with packages in the back.
Love the Fowds Traaaansitahhhh interludes, may have replayed a few timesl. Richard needs to take the samples and give it full sniff stellantis remix.
Great video! Love the Reef t-shirt too Jonny! 🤘
Great review, I have driven electric for nearly 6 years now(Nissan leaf 30). For this van to work the charging network at ports has to improve significantly, we have just been left with no range when arriving at the ferry from cairnryan to larne! I had the granny charger with us(luckily) and managed to steal a few precious miles from p and o! As for the future of vans, electric is a certainty! Perhaps chargers on boats? They all have monster power generation with three phase?
@tonys1636
Жыл бұрын
Ferry operators should definitely install charging points on the vehicle decks, they have installed USB points in the passenger areas for us and most ferry passengers have a vehicle on board.
@ecoworrier
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see charging points on eurotunnel. Its already an electric vehicle running on high voltage.
@903lew
Жыл бұрын
Ferry companies in Scandinavia are starting to offer charging on board. Must be pre-booked but it’s coming as the ferrys go into dock for refreshes.
@4:51 do I see rust on a brand new van?
Nicely done. Great content. Here in Ireland the postal service (An Post) already uses electric vehicles for the posties to do their rounds. I think they're Citroen's eBerlingo.
I was dubious with load carrying trade but now driving the Peugeot E Expert for work and have been really impressed, I do 180-200 miles , local driving is extremely efficient. Not necessarily ideal if you do high mileage on motorways daily , but it works well for me.
Love me a good Van! Excellent review as always. Why does L give higher regen? Good question. I think it's following the standard of automatic transmissions with PRNDL, where low range gives more engine braking.
@Daniel-uj7rr
Жыл бұрын
I think it's L for load. As in carrying a load.
@robtheknob7791
Жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-uj7rr I always understood it to be low range because it limits the top speed and allows the engine to rev higher to produce more torque due to gearing.
I wish someone would do a real world range test with a full load.
@gasdive
Жыл бұрын
The load makes almost no difference as long as you don't put stuff outside the van like ladders on the roof. The coefficient of rolling resistance is nothing compared to the aero drag on something like this. Doubling the all up weight would probably only cut the range by 5% or so. Having the windows open would make more difference.
Hi Johnny. Your correct about the switch. My Granada has the same on the drivers door. My Aston Martin has ford sourced parts to.
Great review, thanks Johnny. Anyone else a little disturbed about the loading of that type r motor? Propper hanging off the back axle there.
Seems great! The screen should definitely lean towards the driver a bit. And I really don’t think touch screens should replace all the buttons in a car or van. Some things like heat or volume are so much easier to just turn up or down without looking. Are electric vehicles eco friendly after the mining? I’m sure someone’s compared the ecological damage to diesel and electric.
@luc_libv_verhaegen
Жыл бұрын
More so than pumping up vast amounts of dinosaur juice, then boiling that, taking one fraction of the result, driving this around to bring to special distribution centers, then pumping that into the final tank, and then burning it in a complicated way to only use 20% of the energy the final product contained. Did you know that the US has more than 936000 active oil and gas wells? That's just the US. Add several million of wells that were shut down and often abandoned in the last 120 years. Did you know that a third of all goods being transported by ship is oil, gas and derivates? Compared to the massive scale and devastation that the fossil fuel industry produces, mining for lithium is a total non-issue. And guess what, if a lithium based battery truly cannot be used anymore, it can always be recycled. It did not turn into vapour during its life.
@6ettinold
Жыл бұрын
The amount of drivers I see leaning down the middle of their cars whilst driving astounds me. C class drivers seem to do this in abundance. Not sure if they are all poorly sighted or the menus on the Mercedes infotainment screen are a pig. We choose our car for various reasons, physical buttons was one.
@patreekotime4578
Жыл бұрын
One reason to run EVERYTHING on the touchscreen is that it could potentially all be reset remotely by the fleet software whenever there is a new driver. Or potentially driver's settings could follow them. It does also introduce the potential for monitoring those settings... with all of the positives and negatives that go along with that. There are plenty of studies out looking at impact of mining of battery materials. Although I do find it funny that we never hear anyone asking what are the impacts of speculating, drilling, refining and transporting oil and gas whenever a new ICE vehicle hits the market. Although one thing we can say for certain: EVERY metal inside of a battery pack can be reclaimed in recycling and reused, whereas not a single drop of diesel fuel can ever be reconstituted from tailpile emmissions and reused as fuel.
@philspencelayh5464
Жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a Vauxhall viva (when they were new) everything you needed to do was proper switches and after a short time you could do anything without taking your eyes off the road. I dont think a touch screen should control anything that is needed when the vehicle is moving.
@peterlarkin762
Жыл бұрын
@@patreekotime4578 Lithium is so costly to reclaim and make usable that nobody does it yet, it's cheaper to open a new mine in the Congo. Also every watt of power used to charge the battery can't be reclaimed either just like diesel.
i glad you explained how stuff gets around. I thought the magic elves made shop stock in the back room overnight.
14:00 haha right, I remember that mirror knob was on my parent’s 1996 Mondeo :)
I want an electric van to convert to a camper badly. Being from the UK, the range on the Ford is more than adequate, just need the price to come down, or a lottery win. Nice easy going review this one.
@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
Жыл бұрын
Took me a while to realise, but yes this is what we have been waiting for! So much better than the VW Buzz when it comes to space. I know people like to park in car parks so a high top is not always desired, but I think this one is great. Plus I have a folding bike that I enjoy riding. It would be good to get one of these, to make it look like a normal Transit (get rid of the blue) and add some stealth signage. I am always wondering what is best for stealth camping. My sister reckons that fake stickers for a bee keeping nature charity is best, 'bees in transit' means you won't have people that keen to open the van. 'DOG UNIT' is also quite good, notionally for a security company.
I'm amazed this has come from Ford. The Charging card is great idea. I wonder if we will ever see it in Australia, or maybe they'll just keep dumping diesel rubbish our way.
@matpat2636
Жыл бұрын
It really is quite clever. It can be set up so the delivery driver jumps out of the cab with the keys in his or her pocket, the windows close and the doors lock. The side sliding doors have foot activation for when your hands are full (although this has never been hugely reliable in the past, maybe it’s better now). And then when you walk back and open the front doors, the windows wind back down to their previous level and off you drive. No ignition. No sitting there idling. Ford have really thought about how these things are actually used
Seriously 150 miles to a charge on an empty van Won't even cover my first trip on Monday of 210 miles one way
@MattyEngland
Жыл бұрын
Come on, what van driver wouldn't enjoy adding 3 hours to every working day, sat looking at a battery progress bar? 😉😂
@Mtthwpez
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I want to see what it'll do half full, let alone fully laden. I reckon you would be lucky to get 80 miles out of it!
@neilbrown5657
Жыл бұрын
Can see it now First job Glasgow to Inverness that's 200 miles on monday When you need me there boss Tues or wed
@MattyEngland
Жыл бұрын
@@neilbrown5657 lmao, or Thursday if you want the heater on 👍
@Brian-om2hh
Жыл бұрын
So not suitable for you. But perfectly suitable for others....... A plumber or joiner, perhaps based in a large town or city, might never drive more than 40 or 50 miles in a day, if that......
24:19 is for my money the closest you’ve been to Alan Partridge so far 😂 …great review, I’m not an FEV fan but this is very watchable.
Electric transit makes lots of sense. Especially in built up heavy traffic areas. Most of that noise in the last scene was tyres, ev’s still make that noise, if not more so. Good vid Jonny
@Brian-om2hh
Жыл бұрын
Both DPD and Amazon are using electric vans to deliver in my local town. They're based 20 to 30 miles away, and only occasionally need to charge during their delivery rounds. They seem to have made an agreement with a local Supermarket to charge if/when necessary.....
4:49 already starting to rust, so it’s a proper transit then!
After this and the Mustang Mach-E, Ford need to start making an electric Fiesta.
@dashcam2417
Жыл бұрын
Ford have cancelled all orders for fiesta ass of mid June ... Next fiesta size car will be a VW MASH UP .
@will4may175
Жыл бұрын
They pandered to the rich folk and business's first, which tbh is par the course for auto makers, I also think they needed to sell off the engines they'd built so that's probably why they brought a crappy hybrid Fiesta first.
@BigManMotors
Жыл бұрын
Electric Puma is on the horizon
@dashcam2417
Жыл бұрын
@@BigManMotors the average road doesn't need bigger and heavier cars .. I would love to see KEI cars introduced with a modern twist . In towns and cities.
@will4may175
Жыл бұрын
@Michael Headley Sounds like Peugeot's have gotten better then, after a car crash in the early 2008 I was given a 208 courtesy car, it was terrible, and then drove Peugeot vans for Royal Mail and they're no better so stayed away from Peugeot.
Worth bearing in mind that whilst the pack size is fixed, any improvements on the cell side in terms of energy density will increase the pack's range like we saw with the LEAF, etc.
Hi Jonny! i really like you and your show, I think you´re doing a great job. And therefore I don´t want to se you get hurt. The way you secured that cargo would in a crash have meant that you would have an engine in your back, probably killing you. So please, be more careful next time and keep producing these great videos. Regards, Patrik (truckdriver) from Sweden.
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrik. Yes, it wasn't my finest hour. Thanks for commenting.
I like it, but here’s my question. The range clearly came down even hauling something weighing only a few hundred kg’s, hence the need to the extra “splash and dash”. I carry over 1t daily in my van, I’d like to understand what that would change the real world mileage to as I just can’t see how electric vans will work properly until they have diesel like range. At the moment that means more/heavier batteries, which means a lower load capacity. IMO unless the gov change the driving licences to 7.5t as a standard like they used to Pre 1997 then electric vans just don’t make sense if they’re going on long journeys, carrying a heavy load. With a 7.5t you could have huge batteries that could easily give longer range and you’d keep your ability for a heavy payload.
@vremster
Жыл бұрын
Very true. I think that's why Ford recommends a mix of electric and diesel vans. Electric for city and suburban routes, and diesel for longer hauls like you describe. Until batteries get lighter, or can store much more energy, we'll have a definite need for some diesel and petrol vehicles.
@gasdive
Жыл бұрын
Weight makes almost no difference to range at all. As long as it's inside and not changing the drag you'd never be able to tell. Wind direction makes a huge difference. Vastly more than weight.
@computerjantje
Жыл бұрын
agree. Again the video is made by an electric enthusiast with no experience of day to day usage of a van. ev is presented always too sunny :) I am skeptical because it is the trend to be ev enthusiast instead of really objective.
Fowads?
One of the best postings yet Johnny
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul.
Great review as always! Interesting van and very capable for many businesses.
A very good review! Let's just hope that it won't result in a life long vocal tic, that'll cost Jonny his marriage.
Perfect for a long wheelbase camper conversion. Nice job Jonny as usual...
@mclouj
Жыл бұрын
Was just thinking about this. Wonder how hard it would be to integrate of all the camper electrics (Stove, fridge, adding solar panels etc) with the main battery systems?
Good to see the first preset on the radio was TalkSport. Still a proper Traaaansit!
Good Review, makes more sense than EV classic cars, which occasionally come out the garage. One thing I would say, it really should have a Hydrogen fuel cell option to make it truly usable!!
@TimInertiatic
Жыл бұрын
There just isn't any hydrogen infrastructure though. It's significantly more difficult to implement than battery charging infrastructure
@markwalton8644
Жыл бұрын
@@TimInertiatic Hydrogen will be coming. Lorries will be Hydrogen soon. There's no way Lorries can sustain a long journey on BEV!
@mikeclifton7778
Жыл бұрын
Or Hydrogen combustion? Harry's Farm and Harry's Garage did an interesting interview with Lord Bamford of JCB fame about the advantages of burning hydrogen in modified IC vehicles, worth a watch.
@TimInertiatic
Жыл бұрын
@@markwalton8644 ok fine, but where is the hydrogen infrastructure?
@markwalton8644
Жыл бұрын
@@TimInertiatic The infrastructure will come soon as it'll have to by 2030. EV lorries aren't going to work!!
Bahaha that into Jonny you legend!
Same gear knob as my focus. Love it lol
Outstanding real world review. 10/10 👍🏻
The hardest test would be same journey in the winter ,lights heater,wipes etc see what mileage you get then
@TheLateBrakeShow
Жыл бұрын
Agree, those are the worst conditions for an EV (above 60mph especially)
@FFVoyager
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow I'd expect like every other EV it'll do about 20% less than it will in the summer!
@domefford864
Жыл бұрын
Can’t see tradesmen ever going electric, I’m a floor layer bet all my tools and crap weigh more than that Honda engine. Add 600kg of carpets probably won’t get out of town 🤣
@Quadlaners
Жыл бұрын
@@domefford864 no same with me full van roof rack and ladders as well, plus longer journeys i could not br arsed to keep stopping but I do think they have their place just not for me
@gasdive
Жыл бұрын
@@domefford864 as long as you keep it all inside the van you shouldn't notice any difference in range. If you put stuff on the roof it will make a huge difference.
It rides better when unladen because it's heavier in the 1st place !
@MattyEngland
Жыл бұрын
MUCH heavier
Green Van Man! Nice review, dude!
I went for a test drive of the 180ps today. The torque was instant, from the lights it just crazy how quick it got up to speed! Top speed is maxed at 81mph, that is fine tbh! What else, Cameras were great, Aircon was great too. The screen was fine, doesn't need to be angled as you would look at it all the time, Can easily use all the buttons from the drives seat, Screen large and bright! It handles well but see when a load is in! The braking was brilliant, didn't need to use the brake a lot, only to stop at lights! What I didn't like. The huge step into the back. I am a landscaper and use ramps etc but I was stocked on the step up to the loading area! ( only 5cm higher than a diesel one) But maybe I could get used to it! I do around 100 miles a day so its ideal for me! So I am looking forward to seeing how much it going to cost!
@sahhull
Жыл бұрын
Wait n see the range fall once youve put all your landscaping tools in the back. That added weight is going to kill the range.
@craiglester4153
Жыл бұрын
So I got price for it. Got a few extras, camera, power pack and the camera. £10k down followed by 58 x £856 with a end balloon of £13104. Over £73k in total!! Very expensive for what it is tbh