Part 1! Hack Job! Mechanic Botches Engine Replacement! Ford F-150 5.4 3 Valve P0345 P0175 P0063 P2006 P2195 kzread.info/dash/bejne/oINquLepkcvUnso.html

@Mrdugan5269

8 ай бұрын

Could it be that the wiring harness itself is supposed to sit higher? 22:03 is where i am at but was looking at it thinking it was layin pretty low. Had a similar issue on a fuse box i was asked to check. Shop had comhow got part of the harness stuck in the upper control arm and everything was stretched until it broke the fuse box. ***24:44 nvm

@petersomma4407

8 ай бұрын

Just curious, does the disclaimer you gave on Part 1 automatically carry over to Part 2?

@Balto1357

8 ай бұрын

@RainmanRaysRepair I never tried the string technique before, however when I was younger, my dad built my mom's engine in the Camaro, he used fingernail polish on the sensors threads, ever since I used that trick I never had one leak, and it's not a permanent glue either that's the simple trick that has never failed me. I should note it's never failed me on a temp sensor, untested on other sensors

@jacksat2252

8 ай бұрын

Loctite 55 is Pipe & Thread Sealant 😉😀

@nobreyner60

8 ай бұрын

Do you show the customers the videos to show them what you found?

I think the customer is lucky to have someone trustworthy to look over this install…

@buffalomerkis7603

8 ай бұрын

The seal business, I suppose so, my only thought is that perhaps liquid could wick its way between the string as it has a helical gap by the nature of it being a string. Adding ptfe tape flat over all surfaces means the peaks and valleys of the thread are all covered equally and the tape will conform to the hole better. But given it’s small size, I’m guessing it really won’t make any difference in your example.

@GeorgeSemel

8 ай бұрын

He needs to sue those clowns.

@shiretransportation5547

8 ай бұрын

Trust worthy mechanics rely on their skill to earn their wages, were untrustworthy mechanics rely on cheating customers to make their profits and Ray is one of those who the quality of the work is worth the money you’re paying the man

@realcdcruze3558

8 ай бұрын

The previous shop did a proper hack and slash type of job. Possibly worse as it never worked right.

@Nostradamus1981

8 ай бұрын

​@@GeorgeSemelThe owner should, he will have Rays invoice to make it right again and the video of the proof. If i was the customer i would go after them for atleats some of the cost back, plus Rays invoice because garrentee if they did to to this customer theyve botched other installs that those owners probably dont even know. Paying thousands of dollars and you get this is just shoddy and lazyness

If they'd intended you to use the Teflon tape as a string, they'd have sold you Teflon string.

Part 3 is now mandatory….you’ve got us hooked now!

@dennis2376

8 ай бұрын

Got to know what the final problem is. :)

@Metanis

8 ай бұрын

I agree, we need closure!

@StrangerInAStrange

8 ай бұрын

Right?! I'm invested now.

@jerryr.6908

8 ай бұрын

Yes Part 3

@AntiTrustNJ

7 ай бұрын

I agree! you can't leave us hanging! I'm gonna quit you if you do not have pt3 lol

Your attention to detail and manual dexterity are - or should be - things of legend. I am in absolute awe of what you do.

I don't care how many videos you make about 1 vehicle, I'll watch them all!

@51:00 solving problems before they become problems! Very refreshing in a business that thrives on creating problems to keep customers coming back!

I like it when you go start to finish on a single vehicle. Chasing down leads (or your tail in some cases) is tedious, but fulfilling. It shows how some of the strangest things can pop codes.

Re: Teflon tape. Whether using flat or rolled, apply to threads clockwise (for right hand thread) to prevent unravelling when bolt or other is inserted/turned. Enjoy your vids and seeing your professional progress.

@bobbg9041

8 ай бұрын

Only on a right hand pipe threds Left hand you do the opposite. Google lefthand pipe threds.

@IR-nq4qv

8 ай бұрын

As a separate issue, Unless there is an issue with the threads, all tapered brass npt fittings don't normally require Teflon tape or rtv paste, the fitting is purposely malleable enough so its supposed to seat and self itself . I would add this also applies to high pressure stainless steel compression fittings with built in ferule collars and energizing rings. Given the industry that I worked at for many years, anti-galling paste was the only thing that was acceptable. The argument from 3rd party inspectors was such that the fittings are supposed to be engineered by a standard to seal and hold pressure during graphed hydro or compressed gas leak down tests,. To pass inspection they required tests on all clean seal connections while not conflicted with testing the teflon tape. When it comes to low risk, low pressure , I see no issues with the use of tape in the right hands to ensure seals. I've seen plastic shopping bags used in the past as thread tape and it worked.

@forgetfulme1719

8 ай бұрын

if his teflon wrap fails and causes engine damage, the warranty liability passes to him.

@riaanlouw1874

8 ай бұрын

My take on Rolled vs Flat teflon tape. Rolled once over the bolt is equivalent to Flat rolled 3 or 4 times over the bolt.

@IR-nq4qv

8 ай бұрын

@@riaanlouw1874 If you mean hydraulic "fitting", I would concur with the thickness. I've never see Teflon tape used on a bolt although I've see copper wire wrapped around a bolt and used as a Band-Aid Heli coil. As for pipe threads, it comes down to the thread pitch -wave and crest and TPI(threads per Inch) BSP, JIC, NC, NPT, Buttress. Residual Teflon usually stays in the wave of a male hose/ pipe fitting when a connection is broken. Some thread tape types varies in thickness as well, I've noticed this between white and light powder blue.

Not being mechanically inclined, I found these two videos to be VERY informative. I find you have an innate ability to teach, encompassing instruction with humor👍👍. You don't know, but your videos have given this almost 70 year old the drive to learn more about mechanics and their application to my quad (my retirement activity😉). Thank you Ray👍👍. Bob from Nevada. P.S., I'm jealous of those that live in your area that can call on you for diag., services, and repair.

@jeffbecker9809

8 ай бұрын

It is awsome that you went on your own. You know things really do happen for a reason, maybe it was just you time to be an educator, and employer. Also to be an example to others.

Just found this channel. Finally someone who understands what I deal with every freaking day for like the past 30 years or around the time mechanics had to become software engineers as well...

Ray’s famous golden rule is just because it’s new doesn’t mean it’s good

Words Ray. It would be satisfactory to get the broken parts replaced to your satisfaction. 😂

Your camera skills beats any professional documentary

Make sure your customer takes the bill back to where the engine was installed and have them pay for it. The customer should be paying a dime for this. Thanks Ray.

Ray, I couldn't help but wonder if the person and/or shop that did the install/repair of this truck previously was watching your videos. Perhaps the owner will encourage them to watch. Great diag and repair. You're a credit to the automotive repair profession.

@redforeman-404

6 ай бұрын

Most low IQ "mechanics" doing shoddy work will never get it. You could force that guy to watch this video strapped to a chair with his eyes taped open, and he will absolutely keep doing it wrong anyway.

“Some idiot put rtv on the gasket … but I’m going to put this untested Teflon tape on the threads”. 😂😂😂

I am now 76 years old but back in the day, I did all my own car repair work - water pumps, radiators, points, plugs, condenser, brakes, clutch plates, oil changes, repack wheel bearings, etc. Today, I would not even attempt it. My dwell meter would be of no use to set timing - ha, ha. Thanks to the powers that be, this stuff is way to complicated and packed in there to make working on cars fun. Heck, I used to stand under the hood inside the engine bay of my 75 F100 inline six. What an engine that was. My 61 Falcon was not too difficult either. However, replacing ball joints with a chisel and hammer could be a little difficult and lead to some questionable language.

As a plumber in the past the twisted Teflon is not going to seal a pressurized system. By putting the tape in only the root of the thread you will not get any to seal the tips. That is why it is applied flat. The shoulders of the threads push the Teflon to the root and the tip while also filling any gap in the shoulders. It is one of many cool looking but not actual working things on the interwebs

@farmerdave7965

Ай бұрын

Tell us about helical leakage paths. Unless you are using NPTF threads you need to use a sealant on pipe threads and the sealant does indeed hold pressure. Hydraulic systems generally use O-rings due to the very high pressures.

Please do a follow up on the cam phaser issue! I have heard that aftermarket phasers are junk and just cause more problems. Good videos!

That rattle at start up could be the stabilizers with no bushings? Love your work ethics Ray! Keep it up.

@edifyguy

7 ай бұрын

Oh that's true.....I didn't even think about that. The engine shakes the chassis ever so slightly, and tapatap.

I was taught to only use thread sealer or pipe dope on sensor threads if the sensor uses it's threading as a ground connection.

For those wondering, the reason these mount points matter is to keep the wire from rubbing on the engine itself and causing serious eletrical issues down the line.

@jostouw4366

5 ай бұрын

And vibration?

@timlee4204

4 ай бұрын

And to leave wires down on the Exhaust ??? Scandalous!!!!

Teflon sealant also comes in a paste format, typically used in plumbing applications. But for that sensor thread more than reasonable in my opinion. I would venture to guess it was a tapered thread and proper torque seals it without any need of sealant at all. 👊

@victorrodriguez2806

6 ай бұрын

Teflon tape is a lubricant. The threads will seal themselves. Teflon tape will help the treads turn further upon themselves creating more surface to seal against. Therefore spinning the Teflon tape then forcing it between the treads is not a help. Don't believe everything you see on the internet.

I stopped counting the times i discovered the shop either didnt do the work i paid for or did it bad. I always check afterwards. So, i now bought a 10 year old gm mokka, and will do normal service myself and only use the shop when it gets complicated.

Love love LOVE this series! As a 5.4l 3v owner who's replaced all the timing components, oil pump, roller followers, lash adjusters, and the list goes on, this customer is so very lucky to have you! I can't imagine me, much less a shop, leaving so much broken, mis routed, and just totally wrong after someone else spent thousands, and that's just for the install. I shiver to think about the Fraser rebuilt engine. Wow, just wow!

It is often worse to fix other peoples mistakes then do the job yourself from scratch. It's like remodeling a house, you never know what's behind the walls until you tear into them... What a botch job this was. Kudos to Ray for patiently wading through that swamp.. And yes the owner ought to get some form of compensation from that butcher shop...

@hdfxrs9121

8 ай бұрын

Really. You spend more time trying to figure what the previous person did than actually fixing the problem.

Thank you Ray for great video, keep us updated.

Ray, I'm surprised you didn't clean off the bottom of the intake manifold from all of what looks like coolant residue. It would drive me crazy knowing it was there :)

@Gizmetti

8 ай бұрын

You cant see it

@TheStobyReport

8 ай бұрын

@@GizmettiYet, sillywwabbit and I know it’s still there. I comfort myself by telling myself it’s staining and not superficial.

It's places and people like that, that give us "Real" mechanics a bad reputation and have customers questioning us. Thanks Ray for the honesty and integrity that you show. As a master myself you give me hope for future mechanics and technicians seeing your videos.

Looking at this truck makes me think of something you should do for your customers that I do for all of mine... Polish the headlights. I do it for free for all of my customers. Takes me 5 minutes per light and my customers always love it when I point out that we did it. It's one of the little things that makes my customers keep coming back.

@maytagmark2171

8 ай бұрын

Another is to clean the windshield and drivers window. A clean window makes the vehicle run better ya know, LOL. But seriously it gives a better impression.

Please do a part 3, I want to know what you find!

It's hard to find people today that takes a little pride in their workmanship! I wouldn't hesitate to take my automobiles to you!

The Teflon tape wrap is an old timers plumbers trick for sealing plumbing but they obviously did not have Teflon soo the used graphite cording.

GREAT video Ray...you must do a Part 3! Inquiring minds want to know!

You could have a 14 video series about a vehicle and i would watch every episode

A common technique with PTFE tape (you call it Teflon tape) is not to wrap parallel threads but twist it up and wind it as a grommet up against the shoulder stop on the fitting. As it compresses right down you do need to be generous with it. This works very well on all plumbing applications and your sensor is essentially identical in application. I'm not just quoting an opinion, as a plumber and heating engineer in the UK for most of my life once we got away from the old fashioned hemp (looks like a handful of blonde hair) and Boss White (an oil-based sealing compound) PTFE tape became the sealing product of choice. Tapered threads yes - wrap the threads with a few layers of tape. But parallel threads make a grommet to be compressed between the stop and the fitting.

@pprey6599

8 ай бұрын

here in Spain you can get teflon "string".

@shadetreemech290

8 ай бұрын

The rest of the world just wraps it around the threads. It works. and the threads don't seize over time.

@beelseboob

8 ай бұрын

@@shadetreemech290on parallel threads you can’t reasonably do that because the tolerances are too small to accept the additional thickness of the Teflon. Hence why he said to wrap it on tapered threads, but grommet it on parallel. Personally, I prefer using Teflon paste - it lubricates the threads on the way in, rather than jamming them up. It means you can get your joint a little tighter, and get a better seal.

@shadetreemech290

8 ай бұрын

@@beelseboob okay

@daviddoty3781

8 ай бұрын

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I worked as an electrical engineer designing power supplies. Lots of troubleshooting why prototype does not work. Ray is very talented in troubleshooting and explaining.

I like how excited Ray got when he found where the O2 plug goes

Excellent troubleshooting, Ray! But don't leave us hanging - we still want to know the outcome of the cam phaser issue, and whether the long block was a good'un or not. Yeah, we're just nosy. Sorry.

@ColinWatters

8 ай бұрын

I don't think anything Ray has done so far would invalidate any warrany on the engine? Might have to go back to the engine Co for the cam phaser?

The rattle can also be caused by a cheap oil filter with an improper drain back valve. Looked like the orange can of death installed on this engine. I know because I bought one with a cheap filter that rattled on start up. I put a motorcraft filter on and good synthetic oil and it’s been quiet since then.

@michaelpressman7203

8 ай бұрын

It sounds like oil pressure I hope

@jonmack5359

8 ай бұрын

I used the 'orange can of death' on my GTI for 235K miles with no problems....maybe you got a defective one?

@justpray365

8 ай бұрын

@@jonmack5359 Fords are more sensitive to them. I’ve owned 6 Crown Victoria’s and several Ford trucks. All of them demanded Motorcraft or Wix filters.

@edbaker1016

8 ай бұрын

@@justpray365 odd, but if thats what works.....

@justpray365

8 ай бұрын

@@edbaker1016 Fords overhead cam engines need oil to the chains as fast as it can get there. If the anti drain back valve is cheap, it takes time to get the oil pressure back and the chains will rattle against the guides. Between me, my brother, and friends, I have seen it on at least 20 different Fords with the 4.6 and 5.4 engines. The large police department that I bought many Crown Vic’s from only used Motorcraft or Wix oil filters for this reason. I found out the hard way.

I love older cars. You don't have all the wiring and other stuff to work around. More room to work. Cleaner.

PO345, my bet is chain jumped a tooth or was not timed correctly. Chasing sensors, wiring will result in opening the front cover.

Great job diagnosis & correct assembly Have a great day

I really hope the owner green lights something with those sway bars. Up here, in northern rust country, that'll cause issues when the snow and ice hit the ground, and people forget how to freakin' drive.

the engine sounded happy ray

What a mess to have to clean up after someone else performed shoddy work. Great job, Ray.

They need to give you a TV Show like they did for Derek from VGG. That would be awesome.

Great diagnostic skills and a totally honest man keep up the great work, Ray.

Saw the previous video didn’t comment! But, wish there was a guy like you in my town for things I can do a lot but, I’d rather make sure a lot is done by a professional so I don’t have to second guess myself months later when a 300,000 mile vehicle is just trying to die and I’m over here putting it on life support

I noticed his honesty from the get go.😊

Teflon tape would work ok in this application. There are also some manufacturers that make a CONDUCTIVE anti seize compound that you should use on sensors that require the sensor to ground for electrical feedback. This provides thread sealing properties, allows for easier disassembly, while also allowing electrical continuity to ground. Judging from the fact that there are 2 wires in the connector, this is probably not a ground required sensor such as some single wire oil pressure switches on the older engines.

Loving the longer videos! Gives us more in depth looks at the shop and the processes which happen to make repairs and/or diagnose problems. 👍🏻

I'm all for a 3rd video of the continued diagnosis!

Thank you for a great video!!!

Always enjoy your videos. Great work again Ray. I've used that teflon tape trick before on pressure lines. Always works great.

Teflon tape is technically just a thread lube. It doubles as a sealer, but you need an actual thread sealer if you want to ensure that there is no leak. With the official jargon said, I use it all the time to seal threads, but be sure to wrap the thread in a direction that prevents it from unraveling.

Well done. Thorough +++

Great video ray!!! Thanks!¡

Seeing the shoddy work / shortcuts on the reassembly, I would suspect the installer reused the intake manifold gaskets and used RTV sealant as one more shortcut to reduce his cost, increasing the profit for him.

Ray being concerned we can't see...hell HE can't see he's the one that matters!! Love the vids!!! This one hits close to home, as I have a 2004 F150 5.4...❤🍻

Thank you!!!

SWEET a 1 hour Ray video!!! Love it!!

Looking forward to see what's the cause of the one issue. Love how meticulous you are in that everything is where it should be. Have a good one Ray!

In part 1 you talked about how the 'button' falls off if the block overheats and voids the warranty...and you found a broken temp sensor...wonder if that's maliciously deliberately done to avoid warranty claims? 🤔

@michelleshaw337

8 ай бұрын

Never attribute to malice what can be readily explained by haste. I’d hazard a guess that whoever was doing the install of this engine was under a ton of time pressure to “just get it done”, and things got broken as a result of haste.

NICE JOB AS ALWAYS!!

Awesome video as always. love it.

Ray, your diagnostic ability is awesome! BTW, at 35:00, it looked like there was a bracket on the lower right of that cable bundle (all taped up). I think that wire would plug on facing downward.

Twisting the Teflon tape is NOT a good idea. Mostly it gets pushed up off of the threads and ends up at the top acting like an o-ring at best and more often not sealing anything. The tape is designed to be wrapped over the threads coating them with a thin layer that provides the seal. In the future I highly recommend you use it as it is designed and forget about twisting it into a string.

@CodycoWeb

8 ай бұрын

It’s mostly used as a lubricant to aid in tightening the threads enough for the pitch to seal as designed by pipe threads. When your dealing with other thread types it’s a whole different situation.

Great work!

The string idea is valid. There is a product. Called plumbers wicking that does exactly what you did with the Teflon tape except it is already in string form. It was used alot on steam pipes to seal them before the age of Teflon tape etc.

@Joe-jz2dw

8 ай бұрын

Richard trethewey would be proud of you.

@desotosky1372

8 ай бұрын

If your plumber is using teflon tape on steam....hire a new plumber.

38:31 every time a bell rings, an angel gets it's wings.!!!!!!!!

Awesome job enjoyed it.

As an installer myself, I know just how unforgiving wiring harnesses are, it's imperative they go back on to the engine exactly the way they came off, my engine installs look like they were never touched when I get done, they look factory, I pride myself on that, and also no check engine light on first start up that's my goal. Great videos you make.

I am finding that Ray seems to be explaining way more than usual lately YES?

Funny thing would be if the customer replaced it and Ray is dogging the crap out of him, 😂

Thank you!

There are master mechanics that are doing honest diagnostics and from there needed repairs and part changing grease monkeys.

I would definitely swap the camshaft position sensors before tracing the wiring. Easy way to make sure it’s not a failed sensor.

Maybe it’s time to pay a lawyer to send a letter to the shop that installed the engine. He needs to recoup Ray’s charges to straighten out that mess. The shop undoubtedly brushed him off when he took it back.

@stevewhite3424

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, many shops like that operate on a complete shoe string with the next job paying for the current job. And even bigger issue, though, is finding a lawyer to take a case like this on contingency, simply no money in it. Probably better luck in small claims court, although getting any award collected would be a total crap shoot.

@gregoryking9348

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the process for recouping damages as an injured party has become insanely expensive. So much so that the majority of consumers who've gotten screwed decide to not pursue justice and reimbursement. Businesses that routinely screw people over either through incompetence or malice deserve to have their name outed on social media. Putting them in a position to get good or fold is the only way to protect future customers.

My hair is falling out just thinking about putting the bulk of the engine back together only to find out codes are still popping up. This was soooooo anxiety inducing. What a huge job.

The doctor of diagnosis is on duty! Well done Sir!

I noticed when I applied tape on treads it's best to start with very thin layer as tightly as possible. If I don't it just builds up at the end of tread and it's pointless using it

First view first comment!!! Morning Ray and everyone out there watching. I get to enjoy my coffee with some Ray!!! NICE!!!

@buffalomerkis7603

8 ай бұрын

Perfect lunchtime viewing in the UK

@miketrstenjak6199

8 ай бұрын

Good morning to you my friend in the UK!!

@miketrstenjak6199

8 ай бұрын

Or should I say afternoon!!!

Ray is far too happy on this video. I miss the defeated doodley doo's when he worked for Pep Boys and the customer declined a repair.

@miketrstenjak6199

8 ай бұрын

The doodley doos I definitely miss

@craigcraigster4999

8 ай бұрын

​@@miketrstenjak6199Ditto!

❤ Enjoyed the show

I feel like shipping my Mountaineer all the way to Florida for its engine work.. complete transparency with 100% integrity and mad skills with highest intention.. Ray's customers are so fortunate to have him and his crew.

Making a "big deal" out of where the wiring goes is not that important as long as it doesn't cause any problems(especially near the hot exhaust parts), as I've found the factory routing is often a problem. However, leaving the 8 intake ports open to whatever debris/etc. might fall in IS a big problem.

@nipperdawg1865

8 ай бұрын

With all this can-bus it sometimes makes a difference under the hood granted would it kill manufacturers to add an inch

Good job Ray

Great video! Need Part 3.

Another good video brilliant

Thanks for the great followup video Ray.

Great Vid!

So rust free under that truck.must be like a dream working on these vehicles

And it shows what some people do to others good to see someone else can see it by the way I'm Joe in Michigan

Awesome job done mate

Enjoyed

Nice ! , it's always fun ! 😊

You got guts for using an autozone sensor in that location rather than OEM. Good luck

@larry7690

8 ай бұрын

No other option except for chinesium. They are on strike. Even if you take your car to the dealer you may end up with Chinese yum if they do not have the part in stock

Yes