Ford F-150 5.4L 3v Triton Engine P2195 P2197 Stuck Lean and Runs Rough: Let's Diagnose It!
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In this video we show you another common cause for lean codes on the Ford 5.4L 3v Triton Engines.
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I have a 2005 F-150 FX4 5.4. I bought the truck new with 25 miles and now have 325k miles. I had to rebuild transmission at about 290k, but engine is untouched. Even has original coolant hoses, water pump, starter and alternator. Replaced throttle body seven years ago due to electrical failure. I’m towing my 2020 19 ft travel trailer as I’m writing this. The truck doesn’t burn oil and gets about the same mileage it always has. I was an automotive machinist when I was a much younger man and no one will ever convince me that the 5.4 is a bad engine.
@whirlwind8825
Жыл бұрын
If your engine has that many miles ... change the oil cooler immediately... when it fails it fails internally ..... (and it will soon with your mileage) ... When it does oil pressure will overwhelm the coolant pressure and your radiator and engine coolant passages will be filled with oil... When it happens you will get 0 oil pressure with no knocking and you will hear gurgling in the dash as oil pumps through the heater core ... The oil cooler is above the oil filter .....
@standhd
Жыл бұрын
My bad, I misread your comment.
@aclary81
Жыл бұрын
This is not physically possible without a blowen head gasket etc. I'm with the poster this is a great engine if maintained properly.
@whirlwind8825
Жыл бұрын
@@aclary81 the oil cooler is a heat exchanger between the coolant and the oil... When it blows internally the oil goes into the coolant side... oil pressure is near 40 psi and coolant is 18 psi .... once the oil pump runs out of oil then the coolant will pump back into the engine
@josearellano3268
Жыл бұрын
Even better get rid of that junk 5.4 3v 😂
Just did the intake elbow replacement. I’m 72, & spendin’ several hours under the hood of a ‘98 F250LD wasn’t the easiest. Tough twist & roll around, but after a disconnect of a few hose & plug-ins I was able to get my hands shoved in far enough to grab the line. Had to cut the stuck remainder of hose off the nipple with a box cutter blade. Typical p0171 & 74 codes. Chased it around for awhile before I realized it was an upstream air problem. Doh! After that I changed out the PCV just to see, since it hadn’t been changed out for 2 decades. It was still good! Then it was a contortionist act & found the elbow was cracked at the bend. No big hiss. I had sprayed with soapy water but never got a rpm change! I was about to break down & buy a smoker, but fortune smiled on me! Really enjoy watchin’ y’all, LOCO!!!
This is by far your best video this year!
@FordTechMakuloco
Жыл бұрын
lol
Awesome fix... for something that you wouldn't see , but hear first. Thanks always!. Love your channel!!!👍
Oh the suspense, I smell an Oscar. It's usually the hose on the back of the manifold, which is close to impossible to get to. Why Ford did that is a mystery...
Hey Brian..hope you and your family have a great and prosperous new year..been watching you since you were at the dealership .. i was glad you went out on your own i see you are teaching your son the ropes too..bright future for him as well..see you on the next one Cheers friend 🥂🥂🥂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It is nice indeed to get an easy one once in a while. It somewhat makes up for the common "head scratcher" problems encountered.
Thanks for the video! I keep learning more about the 5.4 3V in my '07 F150 from you!
I love watching guys that know what they’re doing run diagnostics. If I wasn’t on a different career path, I would do that all damn day. Fortunately I have an uncle who spent 40 odd years as an auto tech, in CA, best learning aid on OBD2 stuff I’ve ever had. Unfortunately, I learned OBD1 the hard way, by myself.
That hissing noise brought me back to so many older cars. And you don't really even need a computer to diagnose it you can see it with your eyes, talk about old-fashioned. You have the computer check behind it and that's great.
Happy 2023 Brian with you around Ford 150 is my only choice of truck I’m on my 2nd F150 2005 then 2009 and I’ve learn at lot from you brother all can say from my experience Ford 150 are reliable .Thanks Brian peace n love
That's just darn good!! Another fantastic diagnose video.
Thank man for keep helping 5.4 owners I keep learning I will check my vacuum line for sure
As soon as it started and I heard the air leak, that would point me in the right direction. The sound came through very clearly on your recording equipt.
My 2005 expedition had the same hose split open giving me a check engine light with p0171 and p0174 codes. Replaced the hose for $40 from ford cleared the codes.
You're like a Ford hero FTM, God bless you.
Heard it and saw it immediately when you cranked it up! Had the same thing happen to me about 2 months ago. Replaced that hose and all good again. 2006 F150 Lariat 5.4 with 254,000 miles with a few dents and dings but still going strong!
Happy New Year , brother, thank you for what you do
The older 02, 03 V10 one ton vans had that crappy pcv hose that would tear near the throttle body. Using the "WDS" (that's right! this was before the IDS) and a can of Chem Tool and listening, there was the leak. The idle roughness was so bad it shook the van and thankfully the ladder roof racks were tight or there would have been two expensive ladders on the floor! One new upgraded PCV hose assembly later and a very smooth, happy running engine. Good one Brian!
thanks for the great work up on this simple but often missed issue.
Happy New Year to you and your family. Also thank you for answering my questions in the past I know how busy you are but it's hard to find some with your expertise.
Easy fixes only come with experience. You earned the ability to do this and get paid dearly for it.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and creating content for us all. We appreciate it
Vacuum leak that's y lean codes. Had this problem with a kia suv a while back. It was intake gasket, n throttle body shaft o ring was bad.The vacuum leak on that car was not noticeable at all n the car ran fine just kept throwing lean codes. Great stuff thx
Brain your the best ford tech. I've ever seen. I worked for Ford 40 years ago. Back then just had a analog voltmeter to check trouble codes. I didn't like variable ventura carburetors and feedback carburetors. Thank goodness when they came out with OBD 2. I'm retired now. But still work on my own cars. Lost interest in anything made after 2015. To much Redundant stuff on newer models. Just my opinion. Thanks for all your expertise.
06 Expedition. I'm still chasing a vacuum leak. The brakes feel soft until I hit the pedal more than once, then they come right up. That vacuum line with the split, when I bought my Expy, that line and the one on the passenger side behind the battery were as flat as a paper straw! I replaced those lines, plus others, but there's still a leak somewhere. No codes, though, except a Cylinder 2 misfire I still haven't found (not the plug, coil, injector or wires), which makes me wonder if the intake is leaking in that area. I recently bought a scope camera, so now I can look at that booster line behind the block as well. Keep up the good work. These 5.4 3Vs are a learning experience!
Thanks for sharing this video with us, your audience. The KZread videos you share with all of us are certainly very informative and I have saved lots of money by applying what I have learned here to my F150 & my Expedition. By the way, have you already loaded a video of a time when you replaced an engine oil cooler adapter in a 5.4L F150 or Expedition? I'd like to see one if you have one already. Thanks.
Lucky me I just replaced that exact hose on mine about a month or so ago because it looked like it was deteriorating and I remembered the last time I changed the spark plugs rubbing against that hose turned my arm black. Crazy how they deteriorate. At 256,000 I'd say that hose will be good for the life of the truck. 😎👍👍🤙
I've been searching for this exact video for months with no luck. Send my truck to the shop and I get a notifications with this video. This is my exact problem! I need to go get my truck back and fix it myself now. Dam
@MNE1983
Жыл бұрын
My hole isn't that obvious but the suction sound is coming from the same area
Thanks for all your knowledge and hard work happy healthy new year to you and your family
Excellent video! Thank you for the detailed explanation!
Your the best ford tech I've ever seen.
@ravenbishop5232
Жыл бұрын
I bet there has been a few offers from Ford dealerships to have him work for them.
This guy knows his ford's. I'm a GM tech I can tell you every fault, but ford's I'm clueless. My wife owns a Ford, but I'm learning the systems.
Once I disconnected that line while doing some maintenance and didn’t realize I hadn’t plugged it back in and started to drive it and got about half mile down the road and for second thought I jacked something up real bad. Luckily as soon as I opened the hood I could hear it hissing and got it plugged back in.
Keep this content coming brother!! Been watching you forever seems like. Just bought a 16 expo and I'm nervous lol.
I have a 2000 f250 4x4 that I use for a work truck….. 274k miles on the original engine & narry a problem….. done all the basic maintenance on it to keep it running top notch…… plugs, alternator, fuel system-oil system-coolant system flush, water pump etc….. but still pull trailers & materials w/ it regularly & it runs perfect, 11 mpg, but runs great…….
I've got a 2004 f150 4.6 three valve that keeps throwing the same code p2197 or p2196.. last year I replaced an O2 sensor, when it threw that code 1 bank 2 I think it was.. in hindsight I should have replaced them all, but it was fine afterwards and thank you by the way for the tips on how to make that job a bit easier cuz it worked like a charm when my husband said it wouldn't make a difference, well we proved him wrong, so thank you for that... shortly after that I had to replace the mass air flow sensor cuz it started dying out as I came to a stop or slowed to turn a corner.. fixed that and it was fine til recently and started acting up, engine shake, running crappy, crap fuel economy ect.. I don't hear a hissing sound though, but that doesn't mean there couldn't be a vacuum leak I suppose even though it's a 4.6... my OBD II scanner threw the p2197 and I'm not sure what the heck is going on now but thanks to your channel I do have some other avenues to check out.. I'm also currently working on my 2005 f150 5.4 three valve so really appreciate your channel more then you know, it helps me a lot... My husband teases me about you being my go to guy for problems with my trucks.. he'll say oh you better hurry up and run to your U Tube Ford guy cuz something is wrong.. lol.. he shouldn't tease me like that cuz he may need our help with his 99 4.6 two valve one day which is the engine I'd like to have because I'm not a big fan of the 5.4 which is an ok engine I guess as long as you take meticulous care of them! Thanks again for your educational tips and tricks! I appreciate them more then you know!
Hello Brian, almost 74 yrs old here and I love the performance and economy that my 2015 Mustang GT or 2018 Focus ST offer but in many ways I miss the simple engines we had back in the 1960s and early 1970s. (Except adjusting the points constantly, Smile) You're quite a way from where I live in Rochester MI but if I had a weird problem with any of our Fords I'd be very tempted to try and get to you as I think so often people working on cars have almost no idea what they're doing these days. George
@ragtowne
Жыл бұрын
Before installing a pertronics igniter, I kept a flip open match book in the glove compartment of my 1969 mustang - It was just the right gap for emergency adjustment of the distributor points.
Best Tech anywhere!
My 07 F-150 has 314k miles. It's runs good, I will inspect a vacuum line for cracks just in case. Thank you for good info.
@FordTechMakuloco
Жыл бұрын
I am sure this line is at least collapsed.
@jeffreykoonce6054
Жыл бұрын
If the line is collapsed will it make it idle rough
@jeffreykoonce6054
Жыл бұрын
I'm getting a code P0420
@FordTechMakuloco
Жыл бұрын
no
2005 5.4 Rolling up on 393000 miles All stock internal engine parts , transmission filter changed once Lucas oil products rock !!!
I’m an HVAC tech and your damn right the customer will be charged for our time! Our corresponding knowledge comes from tools, education/training and experience and that comes at a price regardless of how easy the problem was to diagnose and fix. We always have to consider what other paying work could have been done during that time of that “easy” fix. Us techs must always stick to this philosophy. Thank you for your videos!
@ericheld4382
Жыл бұрын
Aman.
@JimBronson
Жыл бұрын
the best thing I ever did for AC DIY was buy a multimeter that could test microfarads on start capacitors. It pays for itself the first time you use it. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone - 240V AC is no joke, but if you have a general knowledge of electrical principles and safety procedures, you can fix your own start capacitors. Pull the power disconnect and short across the terminals on the capacitors before doing anything though.
@briancarlisi2224
Жыл бұрын
@@JimBronson a multimeter is the preferred tool unless one enjoys being jolted when measuring volts via a micrometer, lol. We certainly know what you meant. As you stated, be certain to discharge capacitors prior to measuring capacitance.
@JimBronson
Жыл бұрын
@@briancarlisi2224 I had engine clearances on my mind. post changed.
@crizzotch
Жыл бұрын
@@ericheld4382thats funny
This was my issuse on a 2011 expedition after I did the timing this weekend. I was not getting any code, but the truck was running horrible. I didn't get the line hooked up right on the intake manifold.
Hey man ! Happy New Year!!
@zrt500
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, great videos.
Thank you again!
Man i wish i knew a mechanic like him in my towm its so hard to find one 😢
Happy New Year your the best !
Way to go! Thx a bunch!
I had a vacuum line crack just like that also in that same area that was causing misfire codes during heavy acceleration (on ramps, etc) on my ‘05 5.4 3V Triton. It took me a while to find it, but fixed it with some Gorilla tape until the new hose came in.
@markm0000
Жыл бұрын
That gorilla tape will probably out-last the rest of the hose lol.
@rocxylemmon8535
Жыл бұрын
@@markm0000 😂😂😂😂
Keep up the good work
First off I absolutely love your channel. I've learned so much about my truck and how to do some things I wasn't sure of. One question about this job though; what is the hose/part called that was causing the leak. Mine looks like it's been repaired at some point cause it has a splice on it and I'd like to replace it with the full one-piece hose that it's supposed to have from the factory. Many thanks and keep putting out the great videos.
@Kyle-wo4vd
8 ай бұрын
Did you ever learn what the name of this hose is?
Very informative video, tnanks
Awesome, thanks
Thanks for all your videos!! Seems like the 5.4 has its share of issues!😞i have an 05 f150, just put a new Jasper motor in, but still getting codes P0340, changed camshaft sensor but still occasionally has rough low idle. Also only getting 10-12 mpg.
I have an '89 Mustang 2.3 & had a whistle at 35-45MPH under light load acceleration. Eventually found a broken vacuum line to the MAP sensor; replaced line cleared code & passed smog. Always do a visual inspection, you can find a problem by just doing a visual.
I love going to the auto parts stores and telling these kids I need a water pump for a 73 VW Bug. Lol. I catch about half of them with that joke.
Still chugging along in my 2006 F150 5.4 3v. 270,046 miles and no issues. I guess I got the exception to the rule on 5.4 3v.
@MarkWilliams-vp7xw
Жыл бұрын
Original phasers and chain tensioners? I have 170,000 on mine original everything ran 5w30 synthetic from first oil change
@aclary81
Жыл бұрын
These are great engines if looked after, don't belive all the talk about the vct system needing 20w oil, that was entirely epa cafe bs, in fleet service they usually get a 40w and run just fine for 300 to 400k with regular maintenance. Many get by with 5w20 but if you want it to last forever a 30-40w is the way to go. Some extra MOS2 is great for the 3v as well 👍
@steveturner3999
Жыл бұрын
@@MarkWilliams-vp7xw All internals original. Only thing that's been changed is plugs. Went to 5W30 full synthetic several years ago. Pulled a 27.5 ft. fifth wheel for several years until my wife died in 2021. Runs like a top.
Good job
Awesome video so glad you do what you do thank you! Is there a chart of the 04 5.4 perimeters for a guide when working with a scanner?
Thank you
Sold my 2005 F150 (not stock) with the 5.4 at 86,000 miles,,,, bought it new and started modifying it immediately, it was used hard towing and long trips, it could do huge long smoky burnouts and even drag raced many cars. All I can say in my experience it was a 100% trouble free vehicle and performed perfectly. (Now driving a gen2 Raptor)
@clutch5sp989
Жыл бұрын
Ooooo...aren't you special. Thanks for reporting your total awesomeness better than us all.
@philipmackin1025
Жыл бұрын
@@clutch5sp989 I see that Christmas and a New Year is already a failure for you. Sadness.
@clutch5sp989
Жыл бұрын
@@philipmackin1025 What?...try to say something nice and this is what I get.
really wish mine was this easy ...its a 08 with 200k 4.6 ....2195 and 0053 ... new O2 did not fix ....cleaned MAF sensor ....no obvious vacuum leaks or idle change with carb spraying near vacuum lines UUHG .... cats were replaced last summer and its been fine since then ... I need to inspect wiring to 02 yet
I will be honest... when i put this tacoma into the woods last month, i didnt think they would pay me out in full and pay me 15,000 to get it out of there. Now i have a free tocoma and $14,000!
While changing spark plugs the cheap plastic 1/8”vacuum line to the fuel rail reg valve snapped like a pretzel in three places. Is there a source for pre- made vac harnesses or am I stuck with generic hose and tee type fixes?
Just replaced this other day - split and corroded 2006 @ 200,000mi. Was throwing lean codes.
Hi I have an 08 150 and it's having knocking issues, what do you recommend I do? Thank you soo much for all these great! Vids 👍
I wish I could find a great independent Dodge guy locally for my fleet of Ram, Dodge and Chrysler vehicles. Tired of dealerships not doing thorough diag and unloading parts cannons.
Dr. Triton at work
I have an 04 150 did a jasper engine mine was still running great didnt mind it but the clicking was getting on nerves I would like to see some talkVS powertrain /JASPER
Nice hiss!
Hi. I watch and learn from your videos all of the time. I really appreciate the info. I have a 2008 Lincoln navigator that's giving me P0171 and P0174 codes along with transmission code P1719 and the wrench symbol on the dash. Any idea if they can all be related or what it could be? When I clear the codes the vehicle runs good for 15 minutes then the codes come back.
I have a 2006 f150 5.4L 3 valve and need to do a timing job on the engine. Do you have a recommended parts list which also includes the rocker rollers?
Ya gotta check them big vacuum lines before you order a timein chain set. It's a Fomoco trick setup and bout nuff to make you loco
FordTech , I have a 06 escape, 246K miles. I love it. Trans might need replacement. Should I replace or forget it?
@FordTechMakuloco
Жыл бұрын
I would only replace it when you have a confirmed major failure.
Man, I've learned so much from Watchung your videos for the 5.4l 3v Fords. I recently was changing the vct's in my truck. I put everything back together and took the truck for a test drive. It ran so much better than before I chanthe vct's however my font driver's side brake calipers began getting hot amd smoking. It was driving like the brake was locked up or pulling to the driver's side. I put it in neutral and it rolled just fine not like the brakes were locked up. Got home and locked at everything I worked on and nothing is out of place and looks correct. Would you have any ideas of what I may have to check or put my hands on that may have messed up the driver's side front brakes? Thanks in advance.
Checking out the videos concerning 2012 focus.. 1995 Thunderbird SC?
Hello Brian beside forscan what other ford program do u used that shows you wiring diagram and other ford help assist
I have a 2010 4.6 with just shy of 350k miles. Have this code but a friend of mine said they could be the intake runners that are not getting engaged by the motor. Had to leave town so can’t take the truck to his place to correct concern. It seems like it is not something difficult to do as you only need to remove intake manifold to get access to it. But would you recommend replacing the entire manifold?
Yup that freaking vacum line is really really really hard to get to.
My 2006 f150 5.4 has one side cyclinders stopped and mechanic is asking to change engine when asked he says 271000 kms already then will have to change transmission.. scrap it.. cant digest.. what sequence to be followed? To have it fixed? Can somebody suggest.. thanks its in surrey BC Canada
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I have a 1999 mustang with 379,xxx miles on it, she still starts and drives would you be interested in doing a video about it?
Have you had a 5.4L3V that somehow gets water mixed with oil in both valve covers it’s a thick milky paste? The dig stick is clean and the oil looks good
Great information as always. What kind of mileage are you seeing in first gen coyote f150 with good maintenance ????
@FordTechMakuloco
Жыл бұрын
300k miles.
Hello. My name is Jason and I'm from Greece. I'm going to get the new Puma with the 125hp 1.0 Ecoboost mild hybrid. What should I expect to go wrong and what action should I take?
How can i test the PCV-system if i cant hear any hissing noise or any obvious visual defects on vacuum lines.. etc? Volvo S40N 1.8 2006, built on Ford Focus C-max/S-Max chassis. Same engine... Ford Motorcraft Company. What kind of tools do i need? Are the fuel trims the vital data here to check for?
I have an 07 ford 150 5.4 v3, my hose is not in good shape. My truck will start to shake and die sometimes. Mostly when in traffic, could this hose cause it. I dont hear a leak bt I think hose maybe clapping
I have a 05 frod xlt 4x4 with the 5.4 I have the codes of p2195 says lean and a code p2198 says Rich I did just redid the timing system everything new I did have a broken timing guide on the driver's side can you help find my issue
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8:33. Do you have a video about this particular vacuum leak?
Do the newer reman engines fix the timing and oil pressure issues that these engines have?
I wish you lived in my town good mechanics are hard to find
will that machine show actual milage cause i beleive my cluster was tampered with i bought it with 130xxx bu showed 187 3 years prior acording to carfax
Well I have the same two codes only and no vacuum leak so what else could it be then?
This 5.4 is better than a lot of new engine today... my brother has chevrolet Silverado 2018 whit only 40k and he has lifter collapse already $40 truck broke already 🤦♂️ I keep my 5.4 forever
Is the system u using forscan the fully load option?
Where are you located at? I need you to troubleshoot diagnose our 2000 ford E-150 van. It has 107k I’ve done all new coils and plugs by your other videos. It runs and drives fine until bout 1/2 throddle or more and cuts out or bongs down. No check engine light or code I did replace tps sensor but no change there is a voltage dropout on it bout at 1/2 throddle. Any ideas help?? Greatly appreciate thanks for the great videos too Brian:)
My 5.4 3v had 282k. Before the trans gave out and started slipping. My girl drove it for like 6 miles at 5k rpm, 🤣. Non car people, lol. She finally pulled over. When it cooled the motor locked 🤷♂️. Im thinking i go 15 and up 5.0. Got any vids on best yr 5.0? Or common issues?
Where do you get that diagnostic software from? I have that forscan on my laptop and phone and neither has the same looks as yours. The graphs and codes screens look really different.
2010 f150 I get a loud clunk under my seat when I stop any guesses what it could be I did just get a new torque converter