What do you think of these new GP5000 S TR tyres?

@seunghwanlee9193

2 жыл бұрын

I will love to try it if the problems of the previous GP5000 TL including sidewall thread coming off, harder to fit, worse grip, and suppleness compared to competitors have solved. I hope that GP5000 TL's low rolling resistance, high mileage, good protection continues on the new GP5000 S TR. Great to see decreased in weight to start with.

@saracen888

2 жыл бұрын

Max tyre pressure is too low for hookless rims

@feedbackzaloop

2 жыл бұрын

These must be named GP5000 EHL for "endlich hackenlos". And they finally weigh less than wired bead competitor tyres for half of Conti price!

@tuckersbowtie

2 жыл бұрын

@GCN Tech I would prefer a review over a lengthy ad written rather awkwardly by Continental themselves

@404nobrakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@tuckersbowtie GCN doesn't do reviews. How many times do we have to tell you? They're a paid ad channel. That's their thing

With these bold claims by tire manufacturers, we will soon have rolling assistance, not rolling resistance.

@mangethegamer

2 жыл бұрын

Two little hamsters running inside the tyres could work.

@andrewbardwell4832

2 жыл бұрын

I would gladly sign up for rolling assistance!

@monty2078

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbardwell4832 get an e-bike😉

@tomstricklin3409

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbardwell4832 don’t get an ebike, ebikes make estrogen, road bikes make testosterone and HGH. Road bikes turn the clock backward. Just pedal harder, it never gets easier, you just go faster

@Alex-kr7zr

Жыл бұрын

Negative rolling resistance, those tires won't stop anymore.

I would love to see a side by side comparison. Same bike, same wheels, same rider, same route, same wattage and have the real time data shown.

@gillesaarts

2 жыл бұрын

Too many variables involved in that. It should be tested on a rolling resistance rig.

@Max-ti4oq

2 жыл бұрын

would rather watch that than a blatant ad thats for sure

@cibo23

2 жыл бұрын

You ll never see that because nothing claimed will happen in reality. If it was so all the watt savings I should have made so far would be 400 watts or so 😂

@mitchellsteindler

2 жыл бұрын

It will happen. Not here most likely.

@paulbusby2013

2 жыл бұрын

@@gillesaarts- preferably one that doesn't have smooth SS rollers!

The real question is when they will actually be available...Supply chains are a mess right now...

@serdiezv

2 жыл бұрын

Faster than other stuff, since they're made in Europe

@paulbusby2013

2 жыл бұрын

@@serdiezv- unless you live here in Blighty!

@ringolong122

2 жыл бұрын

Ordered on the 6th and arrived today!

@ConcreteParadise

2 жыл бұрын

The real question is will we ever be able to get our hands on a set. Might become available but sell out extremely fast

@randyw4972

2 жыл бұрын

Ordered a set from Germany

Got 5000 TL as a road set for my gravel bike. They are super fast, but an absolute pain to mount. I was able to mount one with a friend. Another one I gave up and took it to a bike shop. Never seen entire staff sweat so much. Even with a special tool, it took a good 20 minutes to mount on carbon rim. That's just 1 tire.

@grimp53

2 жыл бұрын

I mount Pirellis in 2 minutes on a Zipp rim and with just two thumbs and no tools.

@kakarot2430

2 жыл бұрын

Gladly I still use alloy wheel, so I just use full force on it :lol

So we're off of Pirelli tires? Be that as it may, I love my GP5000 tires. Well worth the hype. Especially paired with latex tubes and decent wheels.

@henkdevrjes9640

2 жыл бұрын

Yes i did the same upgrades simultaneously, the difference was night and day with my old entry level schwalbe tires paired with patches butyl inners

@not-a-raccoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@henkdevrjes9640 I was running Conti Ultra Sport with butyl tubes and my truly AWFUL Axis classic wheelset that came on my specialized. Seriously... I should have just changed my wheelset the instant I bought the bike. I have Vision team 35s on it now, and I'm ever so much happier.

@wasupwitdat1mofiki94

2 жыл бұрын

Bontrager R3 tires with latex tubes if you want to enjoy riding and not worry about flatting.

@not-a-raccoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 never had any issues with my Conti tires. I think I finally flatted once on my Ultra Sports this summer after about 2k miles on them.

@boomchakalaka3715

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 100%. I used to run the gp4000's and would have a puncture every week or two... now gone 6 months with no punctures on the 5000's. Brilliant things

I look forward to these new GP5000’s! I use the TL’s right now on one bike and they are great! I also use Conti Tubulars on my other bike. Both types of tires have been fantastic! Thanks for the update.

Good to hear they sorted the fit issue!

I was quite happy with the GP 4000. Reliable solid and not too pricey! Old school winter tyres. Still had the same black chilli compound. Can’t find them any more.

I’m definitely getting this when the come available in my town, thank you for the awesome news

… the easier to fit part was the only bit most people are interested in. Nice to see Continental admit that their current 5000TLs are an utter pain in the arse… I’ve been saying it for 2 years - there is always a steady stream of naysayers “fine we’re fine” despite them spending 3 hours fitting them…

@f1fnatik

2 жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct here. I was switching to the Specialized Turbo 2Bliss, but now I may give these a shot. I'll never buy another set of 5000 TL's. Waaay too much of a pain to install.

@Fanaleds-software

2 жыл бұрын

Are they really noticeably easier to put on? I've got a hole in the sidewall and am doubting to go to a GP5000 S TR or to look for something else. Regular and TL version were a PITA.

@matiasa7301

Жыл бұрын

@@f1fnatik are clinchers easier to install?

@f1fnatik

Жыл бұрын

@@matiasa7301 - They are indeed. The new TR’s are also much better. I caved and got the new ones and was happy to find they are indeed a great improvement.

@darrenrider5676

Жыл бұрын

TBH, I take my bike to a mechanic for everything, and easier to set up is actually the only bit I'm not interested in

Mounted these on my hunt aero 50 carbon wheels, very easy to do, seated easily with a track pump 👍🏼

Can't GCN just do a product review without it sounding like an ad.

@letsif

2 жыл бұрын

It is an add

@tanst99fl

2 жыл бұрын

This is literally a paid advertisement

@razzwilmz7970

2 жыл бұрын

It was presented as a "paid advertisement"

@kevin_du_92

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@robinseibel7540

2 жыл бұрын

GCN doesn't do reviews. In fact, they have stated as much. Nowhere in these videos do they ever claim to be doing reviews.

I'm digging them 353NSW wheels Alex. You should do a quick video of mounting and pumping up the tyres on the 353NSW wheels.

There’s nothing quite like that humming and vibration you get from a high quality high pressure road tire at speed…it usually emerges when you drift effortlessly into the zone One of those magical moments on the bike

I have a hooked GP5000TR running tubeless on my Defy's rear SLR-1 rim - they are fine tyres if a little late to the party. I've just bought a pair of Hunt's 30 Allroad rims with knobblies for my hybrid for light offroad use. I was thinking of buying a pair of Hunt's Aero 35s but am hesitating in case future hookless tyres won't be entirely compatible with hooked rims. The cycling industry's bean counters love built-in obsolesce! Some biking innovation does push cycling forward, some just makes you realise that cycling is part of the fashion industry!

Ive been using my gp 5000 TL for over a year and i notice the deference to my clincher and tubular wheelset 17 % lower rolling resistance on gp 5000 TL help me a lot saving my energy during riding...

for me the main complaint from the previous gp5000 was installation, i'm glad they fix that

Will stick to the gp5000 tube version with Tubolito, no problems since installing these two years ago

Sounds good, was always put off by the extra weight of a tubeless setup, so can't wait to try a pair of 28's out.

‘Includes paid promotion’ ….. translated as “exclusively an advertisement for this product”.

@stephanschipper1144

2 жыл бұрын

what is the difference and who cares?

@thebelly925

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanschipper1144 their older paid promotions were about an actual cycling topic that simply used a product that was provided, not simply an advert for a product.

@stephanschipper1144

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebelly925 they also still have those paid promotions. But still, who cares? It is a nice and informative video

Cool vid bro! I’ve got the old 2000 and they are great

at 3:07 you can already see cracks in the tire sidewall - nice job continental

Yay, big up Westbury! Great video, great info 👍

Big fan of the gp5000. I can't wait to try these...

The GP4000 clinchers lasted me 1000 km longer than the GP5000 equivalent. Lightness, ⇣ rolling resistance & speed come at the expense of D U R A B I L I T Y. Few of us need to save seconds in amateur racing. Bring back the GP4000's

Been a massive pain fitting the current TL version. Nearly binned them!

@meneldil7604

2 жыл бұрын

i borke a carbon rim trying to fit them

Also, I took a fastener in the rear tire. Tire stayed up and actually held 65 PSI for a day. Tire was replaced and is due for replacement again.

Running TUBELESS GP5000 on my new Zipp303s wheels and love them.

Going to try these to test speed improvement.

Another infomercial ! To some extent , Its understandable and the nature of the behemoth that is GCN - that the slick presentations have to be paid for somehow, but versus non sponsored channels the sheer amount of this type of content means that compared to the early days of GCN and current, not so heavily sponsored cycling channels it is losing its appeal in terms of any honest appraisal of cycling products. The ‘how to’ / workshop guides are as ever, an excellent resource , but I feel the balance of the content is too heavily biased towards ‘paid content’, which makes the product features feel somewhat disingenuous.

@CyclingInTheAlps

2 жыл бұрын

well said

@DeanPattrick

2 жыл бұрын

👆+1

@LitNews

2 жыл бұрын

GCN is 71% owned by the Discovery Channel. It surely doesn't need to publish so many infomercials.

I love my GP 5000 TL. Im looking into the 5000 S

I always rode Conti's, until I went tubeless. The GP5000 TL's where impossible to mount on my HUNT wheels. And from what i've read online, im not alone in my experience. Will these be easier to mount?

@MJarthur95

2 жыл бұрын

This one is easier since it has the technology same as the Pirelli, Shwalbe etc (hookless compatible). Should check “David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes” he made a video and mounted the tyres at the end of it

@ericjjohnston1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, 5000tls were tricky to mount on bontrager aeolus wheels, impossible on my hunt limitless 48s - you were certainly not alone...

@paulbusby2013

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently so - due to having no ridge to worry about. I succeeded in fitting some Schwalbe 35c Allround tyres to my Hunt 30 Allroad wheels only after ditching a pair of tyre bead jacks & using my hands! The secret is to smooth the tape into the well, keep the valve loose then rolling the tyre on with both palms - maybe not so easy with 25c tyres though! Some use tyre bead lube to get on that last length of bead. Refitting a tubeless tyre is certainly easier than fitting a new one the 1st time which is just as well if you need to fit an innertube on a ride.

@stefanodirector

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, 5000TL was just impossible to fit on Mavic Ust Wheels. Lets hope the new ones are way easier, I'd love to try them.

@randyw4972

2 жыл бұрын

28's were certainly snug on my Zipp 303s's. Quite a battle to mount, but these puppies aren't slipping off!

Been happy on the gp 5000 tl for couple seasons...just hope I don't have to cut the little random strands off these new ones..but really I'm confused as to whether this is a tire ardvert or sunglasses?

More puncture protection? From what I’ve read in every article online the puncture protection has dropped a lot since the tire now is more for racing.

Nice. My bontrager r1s are ready for and upgrade.

Alex, would you mind sharing the measured width? Planning to use the same combination but my frame does not allow more than 27mm measured and not keen to go back to 25mm…thanks a mil

Their kavalar tires are the bomb! I've not busted a flat yet on them and have rode them over a thousand miles! This is like unheard of perfection. Usually I'll bust flats at least three times a month, but not on these tires. Kevlar gatorskin hardshell foldable tires are the best!

I use the conti 5000s on my touring bike and the low rolling resistance makes a phenomenal difference, and these new ones are 20% better!!!! If all true that is staggering

@bikerjk1205

2 жыл бұрын

20% less rolling resistance is 1.5-1.8 watts, so not much.

Love these Tyres, comfortable and fast

Do you think this tire was already in use in the 2021 Tour de France as a maked/camouflaged tire?

Im now waiting for it to be available online

It will be interesting when the rolling resistance measurements come out from independent sources so we can see the real difference between this and the old gp5000.

@galenkehler

2 жыл бұрын

I'll just stick with the GCN review thanks. They tell me what I want to hear. :)

Got a puncture first ride out, but using Mucoff sealant it did seal quick.

@masher1042

Жыл бұрын

My friend's STR got puncture on his 1st ride as well.

Being the new 404 zipp wheels 23mm inner and optimized for 25c tires, how are they going to work with the new conti tires??

Are the Shimano BR0628 88 rims compatible with this tire? And used as a clincher? Thanks!

Arrgh. I have relatively new GP5000TL's installed and a spare GP5000TL on the shelf. It'll be about 10k miles before they wear out and I can try the STR's.

@nemeanf27

2 жыл бұрын

good luck in getting 10k miles of use. Had the 28mm 5000TL throughout 2020 and got roughly 3500 miles before wear indicator disappeared and carcass started showing.

What about the resistance of the side beads? I had a big tear on my tire and already saw many comments in the net worth same complaint... Have they improved that?

This is just way too much of a commercial for my taste. Didn't even want to finish watching, and what I had already heard I just could not take as real information.

@densyoh

2 жыл бұрын

well at the start of the clip they did inform the viewers it includes paid ad so there u go😁

Great Continental ad!

I have a level of trust in Continental tires that can only come from almost 30 years of riding their products with a handful of punctures…5 or 6…most of which I only noticed when preparing to go out for a ride, which meant the failures were small slow leaks that allowed me to get home without noticing a significant loss in pressure …riding in Brooklyn isn’t as bad as Manhattan where you need to prioritize puncture resistance over all else, unless you’re riding strictly in Central Park….but you do need to be attentive to glass on recycling garbage pickup days…otherwise just potholes From the early 20mm Grand Sport, Grand Prix S, to the 4000 series and now I have a set of 5000’s to test this Spring

Can these new tires be tubeless mounted on regular clincher rims?

Oh wow a tyre company actually recognises that 650b exists outside of mountain biking? I am legit surprised. I didn't realise that when I chose my correct size for me bike that my tyre choice would be basically zero. Now I have a great option!

@trimmxx2169

2 жыл бұрын

they do gp5000 650b too older gp5000

Please test the sidewall protection. That was a huge problem with the old tyre.

Improved side wall protection, reduced puncture protection for the road facing sode

I'll have to try them, all those % faster lighter etc, where I live they are 100% more expencive than the old model 😯😯

You forgot to add rolling resistance results from independent lab

Are they also compatible with normal innertubes?

How did you get those tires on the 353 NSW? I have the same set but I’m having a hard time getting them on by hand… is it safe to use tire levers?

Seems hard to believe they compare to Continental Gator Hardshells toughness. Rolling resistance definitely.

Have you weighed the tyres yourselves, as 2 months ago I invested in a pair of GP5000 clinchers and I weighed them. They are 25mm tyres and they were 215g each, so at 250g that’s the opposite of a weight saving (unless hookless ready adds weight naturally in their design)

@ringolong122

2 жыл бұрын

Weighed mine and both came in at 248 grams.

@DSKHo1968

2 жыл бұрын

Clinchers are around 50g or more lighter than the equivalent TL tyres as they do not have the weight of the bead. In this ad they are comparing 2 version of the tubless tyres, the TL and the STR.

Are they any easier to get on the rim?

Can this model use on hooked rim ?

I'll keep my Schwalbe Pro One Addix and if they ever die the Pirelli P Zeros in my tool box may get a shot. I saw quite a few GP5000s fail this past year.

I guess we're not gonna do back to back runs and compare times anymore?

Bought a set of these for my gravel bike for straight road rides on my gravel. Will switch back and forth. Thought?

Can you only use latex inner tubes?

Is the general feel of these tires better when riding ?? I've just bought a basic bike - trek domane Al2. With basic stock tires. Will these tires feel better when riding compared to the stock factory ones??

Can the 5000 STR be used with ebikes of max speed 20MPH for roading riding?

Just installed them today. Rear 28mm, front 25mm. Let's see what happens. Mind I tell you I jumped from a factory average heavy tyre (400g+) to this directly. Can't wait to go my standard test circuit to see the difference.

@matiasa7301

Жыл бұрын

How did it go?

@Umetnik

Жыл бұрын

@@matiasa7301 amazing, I was surprised what a big difference a tyre makes. Cornering is better, you are faster and acceleration is thrilling. The ride quality overall really improoved.

Even while this is only an 8 minute video, we would have already been convinced with a video being like 'Are the new Continental tyres even slightly better than the previous version? Yes, they are.'

@Mike0

2 жыл бұрын

Better than the old tubeless tyres, of course Better that the gp5000 clincher with latex tube, that'll be interesting

#askgcntech Hi GCN ! I'm currently using a Continental Revo Sealant on my tubeless tyre setup. But it's about to run out. I have another bottle of different brand ( Bontrager TLR Tire Sealant). Can I mix it up with what's currently on my tubeless tyre or do I have to remove the old before putting in the new one ? Thank you & have a good day.

I've got fulcrum 3 racing wheels I bought a few years back, will these tyres fit my wheels???

will these work with mavic cosmic UST wheels?

just bought 2 sets of the gp5000 for both my bikes lol

A bit late for me. Since I switched to GP5000, I have not had a single puncture in over 2 years(even with a glass deep inside my tire, because it was pushed to the side by the protection layer) and having replaced my worned out back tire a few weeks ago, I guess these will have to wait at least 1.5 years until I could even think to buy a new tire...

20% reduction based on their previous GP5000TL equals to not even 2 Watts saved. Switching from winter (4Season) to summer tires (GP5000) is about 40% but more importantly over 7 Watts saved (data from bicyclerollingresistance)!

Another great advert from GCN

Great, but I bought a new set of GP5000 TR only three weeks ago. At least I know what I will be getting once they are worn down or punctured.

What is your weight for using 60 psi front 65 rear？

Can they be run at a higher pressure with hooked rims? I hope they atleast have a hooked specific model as I'm struggling to find the appeal with hookless technology.

@mitchellsteindler

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't get it. 70 psi max is ridiculous. Around me, many roads are very smooth so low tire pressure doesn't make sense.

So can these be ran with a latex inner tube? Im confused!

Fast tire, great in the dry on clean roads. Super sketchy in the wet and on dusted roads in the corners. They did seem to have good puncture resistance and lasted until they were worn out which was a first ever! However I'll stick to Vittoria, to unstable in dynamic conditions 👍

@Leo-ss2gb

2 жыл бұрын

GP5000 I consider great performance training tires. Have them on older wheelset and turbo cottons on my higher end wheels. GP5000 are crazy durable and tough compared to real racing tires but gripper/faster than most training tires which makes them a dope middle ground choice for daily rides.

What tool storage is alex using?

@jonfarmer7914

2 жыл бұрын

GCN Castelli Aero Shorts 😉

Where do I buy these?

Thanks Alex....Peace

show a video or how hard they are to mount on carbon rims

Will it work on Trikes?

Getting them tommorow so I’ll let you know. Tbh I love my current GP5000 so any improvement will be a bonus

@paulgal

Жыл бұрын

Any good ?

@alexwipe

Жыл бұрын

@@paulgal very very…. Lasted a whole season on them circa 20,000 KM. Very fast, comfortable and hard wearing. I run TL and every time I had an issue it closed with sealant!! Highly recommend mate

I weight 205lbs or a little over 102kg should I still run the tires at 73psi?

Great... now, are these gonna be vaporware like 28mm 5000 TLs are these days?

I appreciate the video and i'm a fan of Continental, but it's expected around 80 Euros each🙄 (and i guess they last pretty much the same as the 5000's if not less...)

What's the impact to a heavier (95Kg) rider? 72.5 psi seems awfully low. I run 84 psi on my front and 93 psi on my rear, and I currently use the GP5000 TLs and have them set up tubeless.

@marekmarkowski9571

2 жыл бұрын

Hookless Is cx or gravel tech only

@user-nu5fx6en9h

2 жыл бұрын

I am 96kg , I have been using the 5000str with my hookless zipp running 60-65psi, I don’t find any issue, been riding it for over 2000km

@user-nu5fx6en9h

2 жыл бұрын

I am 96kg , I have been using the 5000str with my hookless zipp running 60-65psi, I don’t find any issue, been riding it for over 2000km

My conti GP 5000s weigh 225g and I just need to add aerothan innertubes (41g). Just don‘t go tubeless with a road bike… too many downsides. Starting with the tire pressure (low = not helping with punctures) and ending at the higher weight.

Are they still impossible to fit?

Yeah, I just ordered my second set of 5000, didn’t know about STR.

@aliancemd

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. A bit late for me. I never had a single puncture on GP5000 in over 2 years and just replaced my worned out back tire a few weeks ago, so no point really to buy new ones.

@tomstricklin3409

2 жыл бұрын

@@aliancemd yeah, I didn’t wear out my first set, I bought new wheels, I wanted to start fresh. I put so many miles on my old wheels. I need to get rid of some old wheels, it’s just, well ya know I might need em some day.

I enjoy my "black chili" every time I ride.

I am betting that I won't see these in the flesh until Spring 2022.... sad times we're livin in.

@ringolong122

2 жыл бұрын

They were actually available earlier this week, but now I think they are sold out. I feel lucky to have gotten a set.

@BadTanLines

2 жыл бұрын

@@ringolong122 maybe somewhere. I work at a shop on the east coast and we have been hearing about pre-orders shipping on the 17th. I have also heard of sponsored riders already with them out in the wild but I haven't seen em myself yet.

@ringolong122

2 жыл бұрын

@@BadTanLines I purchased a set from Merlin Cycles from over in England on the 6th and they arrived yesterday on the 8th! Hopefully they will be local soon. I am in TN btw.

I’ve got no idea if my rims are hookless and whether I need hookless rims for hookless tyres?

They said this when the GP5000 was launched, but GP5000s are prone to punctures they get ripped whenever it happens, I’d go for Vittoria corsas and Pirelli pzeros