What do you think of the new Campagnolo Ekar groupset?

@timurhant469

3 жыл бұрын

Love it. I would give it a go!

@nstrug

3 жыл бұрын

Looks great, lots of well thought out features. Good to see that they have beefed up the bearing seals. The road brakes (designed by Magura) are very, very good.

@tylerreid1789

3 жыл бұрын

I like it, now I can build an all Italian gravel bike.

@l.d.t.6327

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know if those better sealed bearing are compatible wit the road groups (I am riding a super record ultratorque crank at the moment)?

@mahiru20ten

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe a mountain bike groupset from them next?

finally Campagnolo on the channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@calliope8muse

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree with you more Luca,

Really looks like they nailed it. Finally enough range without having to shell out for AXS mullet.

The groupset I’ve been waiting for. Now all I have to do is sell my car.

@MeFreeBee

3 жыл бұрын

I don't have a car, would they take a kidney?

@nikveldkamp8630

3 жыл бұрын

😂I doubt my car is worth that much.

@richm.3477

3 жыл бұрын

If they do accept a kidney, do they ask annoying questions like, "Where did you get this from" or "Why is it in a Ziploc bag?"

@l.d.t.6327

3 жыл бұрын

a terrifying thought you have a car in traffic that's cheaper than this groupset! I reckon 4 tires on my company car are the same price as this groupset!

@hogdog567

3 жыл бұрын

@L. D.T. Good for you Lord Snooty, good for you.

This is the first 1x range I'd seriously consider

2:10 before we dive in, let's start where most of these groupsets will end up, inner city cafes.

@metallusmelandril7380

3 жыл бұрын

my GXR is not! its getting dirty 3x a week

@thedownunderverse

3 жыл бұрын

😂🙈

@51StPi

3 жыл бұрын

Harsh ;) You forgot roof bars and bike racks.

@jasonjeffery-endurance6071

3 жыл бұрын

Nathan Brown the Rapha boys and girls from Chelsea😉

Always have been a Campy Cult user and follower most of all my cycling life and will be for the rest of my life -- it's just that damned good! Beautiful and top quality -- yes, you get what you pay for and this groupset is no excecption. Love it!

Thanks for the review GCN! This encouraged me to go for the Ribble Gravel Ti EKAR and 2 months later I am a very happy man.

What I love about that groupset are the cassettes: 1 tooth jumps in the high gears, bigger jumps in the low gears - I still wait for a similar 11s cassette like my old 11/12/13/14/15/18/21/24/28/32 10s cassette - replace the 32 with 34, add a 40t and I'm happy...

Thank you for speaking out about a Campagnolo at last, it would be nice to also have a video on their 12 Chorus.and please please do educate people about all groupsets.

WOW just WOW 13 speed what a time to be alive

@brownshit1

3 жыл бұрын

I'm personally holding out for a 17 speed.

@matthi2358

3 жыл бұрын

@@brownshit1 so Shimano gonna release new Dura-ace next year really curious what its gonna be could be 15 or 14 who knows

@brutalwang4106

3 жыл бұрын

Dont listen to him, my lovely little 8 speed commuter :D

This is the most impressive looking Campagnolo group set ever.

It’s great to hear GCN talking about Campagnolo. I’m sure you have sponsorship requirements regarding Shimano and SRAM but it seems that the C word was banned from the channel. I have only used Campagnolo in over 30 years of riding and found the lack of the company’s products on the channel very sad.

@damianhall4554

3 жыл бұрын

agree 100%

@gustavmeyrink_2.0

3 жыл бұрын

It was because until they had tutoring for this infomercial they could not pronounce Campagnolo.

@colletjulien

2 жыл бұрын

I remember an article saying that many cyclist have the Campagnolo logo tattooed but no one has a Shimano tattoo... cycle shops also are a pain, they only want to stock Shimano parts and use Shimano tools.

Si, that was expertly explained. Clear and concise, just faultless. Allowing even a buffoon like me to understand your presentation and enjoy it enough to really fancy a Campagnolo groupset ! I think you’ve sold it to me. New gravel bike and campag? Why not? It’s only money. Thank you.

The best thing here is how well Si explains all the groupset features.

Open standard and backwards compatible, I like that. But I do remember Campy going off-road before and that did not end well. But, I am sure they have learned a thing or two. So go Campy! Competition is good. Shimano you are up! Give us a new Dura Ace!

@scottcampbell4429

3 жыл бұрын

But like Simon was alluding to by showing 1. How fast he could get this set going and 2. The nine tooth soon to come, this group will be used on a lot more than gravel bikes. I already want to ditch my SRAM Red and make the ultimate all weather, all conditions agile bike. This is the key to the Holy Grail: one bike to rule (or ride) them all.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

Open standard with a patented BB seal?

@rboydphotography

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrunodeSouzaLino open standard is refering to the freewheel only, not the entire groupset.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

@@rboydphotography considering the gymnastics you have to do to even match parts from the same brand (you need adapters to match brifters with an mtb derailleur for example), why couldn't they just do the entire groupset on open standard?

@juliangrant3129

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrunodeSouzaLino I think the open standard only applies to the free hub design in particular the backward compatible bit

I need it. Have been a Campagnolo guy since the 80s going back to 7 speed Super Record non index. I will not ride anything else on the road or cyclocross. I am ready for it.

@81caasi

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just building up a cyclocross bike w campy. What drive train setup do you have?

@tommahnke

3 жыл бұрын

@@81caasi I have been using an old 10 speed Chorus set up with Cyclocross specific brakes and crankset. It has been through probably 100 cross races, many gravel races and two trips to Europe to ride all the spring classics courses. This is on a DeRosa cross frame, the old girl is kind of ready to retire. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Still the King of the road, and now the off road. AWSOME

13 speeds down to 9 cog! Amazing!

At first glance I assumed it would be more than I'd be willing to spend. I'm pleased that it is coming in under the Chorus level. Maybe it'll trickle down to something I'd find realistic in a couple of years. My gravel bike is one of my favorite rides these days and a Campy group could be a dream bike setup.

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@dakalla

3 жыл бұрын

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@YannickLB

3 жыл бұрын

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@stevekirk6399

3 жыл бұрын

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@dh7314

3 жыл бұрын

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@thomaskg3802

3 жыл бұрын

You could argue that this entire video is an ad for Campagnolo

I like what Simon was alluding to by showing 1. How fast he could get this set going and 2. The nine tooth soon to come, that this group will be used on a lot more than gravel bikes. I already want to ditch my SRAM Red and make the ultimate all weather, all conditions agile bike. This is the key to the Holy Grail: one bike to rule (or ride) them all.

@davidmidcalf3470

3 жыл бұрын

I used to use a boardman cx bike for road riding, it ran sram rival 1 groupset and was good for my style of riding, I could get fast enough to enjoy my riding but it would top out at about 35/40mph, at least with this you could get that little bit faster 👌 definitely caught my eye with this

A new video by Si, new Campy groupset. *Cracks open beer* 👍🏻

was just planning a move to Chorus 12. But this will do nicely thanks, BTW awesome imaging in this Vid.

I have so much respect for open patients designs.

It'll make a great gift for my sweetie. Must cope with the guilt of getting one for myself, first of course! Hope the locking mech on the rear derailleur trickles down into other gruppos. That's really awesome.

Gorgeous ,starting to save for one right now!

Entering a 30mph zone doing over 80kph.... 9t works wonderfully.😂 My goal in life is to set off a speed camera on my bike. Anyway, the derailleur holder clip thing is genius, so it's a winner

@lordalfa600

3 жыл бұрын

SRAM has that in the mountain RDs. I use a GX 10 speed. Just pull and engage the button.

@pigeonpoo1823

3 жыл бұрын

@@lordalfa600 so we're just waiting for Shimano to play catch-up? Dura ace is just round the corner!!!!!!!!!!!

@JohnBatty

3 жыл бұрын

@@lordalfa600 And Rival 1- a gravel specific groupset. I miss it now I've "upgraded" to Force22.

@lordalfa600

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnBatty I did a hack, since it is a gravel bike, I used Sensah shifters 2x11 with SRAM GX 2x10s MTB RD and Force 22 ith GRX 600 crankset 30/46. Franken bike and it works with 11-42 cassette.

@tomcruz3774

3 жыл бұрын

@@lordalfa600 am I reading this right? Sensah shifters (I'm guessi g SRX Pro) work with SRAM MTB RDs?

#campagnolo COOL!😎🇮🇹💥 GREAT to see this ! Hopefully, more riders will now have the opportunity to experience the STUNNING functionality , durability and beautifully engineered and made gruppo!

@Emphaphis

3 жыл бұрын

The price is still the biggest limiting factor mate

@andrewlipsiner9791

3 жыл бұрын

@@Emphaphis Pricing is all relative All of my Road bikes have been equipped with #campagnolo RECORD/ SUPET RECORD gruppo for over 20 ++ years. Not only is #campagnolo STUNNINGLY functionally superior, gruppo / wheelsets are also STUNNINGLY durable, rebuildable and looking as well ! They are also ergonomically and engineered STUNNINGLY! So ...all in all , all the above not only justifies the initial pricing , it ACTUALLY is more cost effective in the long run #campagnolo SUPER RECORD gruppo RULES !!💥💥😎🇮🇹

@julmeissonnier

3 жыл бұрын

@@Emphaphis Not expensive at all: Last year I sold on Ebay some 1994 Record 8 speed ergo shifters for more money than they cost new in 1994... 25 years old and still working perfectly...

@carlstatham594

3 жыл бұрын

Yep the price retention is massive on Campy groupsets. Also, the discounts available make it only a tad more expensive than Shimano and you lose that complete dog of a gear change that Shimano has instead of the button ........ I ask you after years Shimano still has only one downshift from that great big schwing of a lever, utter engineering drivel.

Looks awesome. Campagnolo is a bit overlooked these days but it’s still such a great option

The 1x movement only makes rear derailleurs and front chainrings wear out more quickly. The rear derailleur’s longer cage is also more prone to bumping objects along the trail.

Excellent information, thanks Si and the sun at your back does not show the new suit design and pattern materials you have on for this video. Looks rather nice from what I can see.

When I was in the Army I was stationed in Vicenza and did not know it was home to Campy. I'm so glad that major bike manufacturers are making gravel specific gear. I always modified road bikes with mountain bike group sets to make them into off road bikes.

@jeremyfrye9131

3 жыл бұрын

I was at the Caserma too and didn’t get into cycling until I came back to the States. I kick myself daily thinking about all the cycling I missed out on the 6 years I was there.

That's basically the ideal 1x Gravel (and road for that matter) groupset. Easy low gear and fast high gear - very nice!

I’m on board with what they have done gear wise, it’s just the price tag. For that group set and a new hub/wheel rebuild, I can buy a dura ace di2 group set. They definitely got it right.

Wow looks stunning!

Love the fact that during the 9 tooth cog test, slow roles by on the tarmac.

Just bought a brand New De Rosa carbon gravel bike with Campagnolo Ekar for only 3600 euro, and I live in Denmark. Super bike!

Is the real news, not being a gravel guy, that Campy is going to be releasing a 13 gear road groupset standard for Super Record, Record, and Chorus? AND we need new freehubs to make it work? I only have TWO kidneys Campagnolo.

@pittapittae

3 жыл бұрын

No new hubs here, fortunately. Fully compatible with all existing ones. I guess they will keep the 13 on the Ekos for now, but we will see

@leflate

3 жыл бұрын

@@pittapittae Pretty sure you need a N3W freehub body, that's the new one that was introduced with the Shamal Carbon wheels

@pittapittae

3 жыл бұрын

@@leflate you are correct, same hub but new freewheel, mainly for fitting that small sprocket

@jsfoster100

3 жыл бұрын

The 12s system is exceptional. I won’t trade it in for a long time.

@davidlewis3924

3 жыл бұрын

@Damiano Cassese @Antoine Nguyen Older model Campagnolo wheels (with 30mm pawls) are backwards compatible for the EKAR 13 speed cassette by use of an N3W retro-fit kit www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/next_3_ways About €70 rmcbikes.com/en/campagnolo-n3w-13-speed-retro-fit-adapter-kit-cup-and-cone-bearings.html

Add flat bar controls and mountain bike guys will go nuts.

@nicolasb5899

3 жыл бұрын

Nick Maclachlan the 9t might be pretty good on some xc bikes, because then you could run a smaller chainring to get more low end and ground clearance

@dkessler14

3 жыл бұрын

The Ekar cassettes are still very much road oriented with tight 1t jumps at the small end and fairly large jumps at the big end. And that's perfectly appropriate for the allroad/gravel riding. But for MTB I'd take Shimano or SRAM's 12-speed spacing over this hands down.

The NEW standard N3W.. I see what you did there and I like it!

True innovation campy! Hope you can start some kinda arms race among grouppo companies.

@janusz0

3 жыл бұрын

I'd rather just watch Campagnolo rise to the top again. Sweet dreams Tullio. Chapeau!

People don't get that Campagnolo is a fine brand, most of the components are made in Italy and it offers a design and durability like no other brand, it is also associated with the biggest champions of the cycling history like Coppi, Merckx, Gimondi, Indurain, Pantani and so on. They are in the business for a long time and saw brands like Simplex and Suntour giving up on doing groupsets while they keep being strong despite their main competitors have a massive presence in the industry. To buy a Campagnolo groupset you have to identify yourself with the brand values: history, design and durability. I have a classic bike with a Campagnolo Super Record groupset that is 38 years old and the components still work like new and they look amazing. I've compared the old and new and I've found lots of similarities which means that they care about authenticity, design consistency and tradition. If you change your bike every two years a Shimano or Sram groupset will do, but if you want to assemble one to follow you thought the years I would go Campagnolo.

@maciejb120

3 жыл бұрын

Probably most parts are made in Romania.

@PetriccioneEdgar

3 жыл бұрын

@@maciejb120 I have a Super Record Groupset from 2018 and all the components are made in Vicenza Italy.

@dkessler14

3 жыл бұрын

@@PetriccioneEdgar I have a Centaur groupset from 2019 and few (if any) of the components are made in Vicenza Italy.

@PetriccioneEdgar

3 жыл бұрын

David Kessler go Super Record then.

Looks interesting, I have a Norco Search on order that I plan to try road, gravel and CX with so want 2X. If down the road I decide to get a road specific bike and to only use the Search for gravel and CX I would consider going 1x and putting a group set like this on the Search.

👌Looks perfect for my next road bike.

I think Shimano grx di2 is kinda perfect but i'll admit that the fact campagnolo dives into gravel groupsets market is really cool 😏 and that this groupset looks pretty good to me

@lechprotean

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2x GRX and it suits me as I put most power in the lowest and highest gears where the chain is straight, with 1x the chain is most bent at the extremes - bet that 9 tooths is going to wear out quite quickly...

Love my GRX but this is stunning as well.

You had me at "9tooth".

Competition is always good for us customers. Let's wait for price and real world reviews. Looks promising to me. Hope Sram releases MTB like cassettes for mechanical Force/Rival/Apex 1. I really miss bigger sprockets than 42T to my 38T chainring. And Simon on red GREVIL ...woow. I wonder what Jeremy says about it :)

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

Tension adapters do exist for that sole purpose.

That looks awesome I am currently on a touring bike that runs a 3 and 7 group set and casset it's fantastic at getting up hills and can take a beating but I do wish it was lighter Come Christmas Ill be getting a lighter frame 🤙🏻😜

13 speed 1x is genius with that 9 tooth cog. I love it.

I have spent my life riding MTBs, road bikes and now only road bikes but have been considering a gravel bike because they just didn't exist when I used to do bike touring, camping holidays. I rode MTBs with slick tyres and triple chainsets/long cage mechs but they were sluggish so got a Fratello touring bike built up by Condor Cycles in London with Campag triple on it. I still have it but ride a carbon Specialized Tarmac also with Campag but, compact set-up. Gravel seems to be the way to combine both disciplines. This groupset looks interesting....

Seems like a pretty revolutionary group set, to me. A 10 cog gear in the rear, and a 13 gear cassette is a huge improvement. Everyone is going to want this on all of their bikes...I know I do. Shimano and SRAM better get on it! If this is reliable and dependable, it’s going to get lots of attention, regardless of the price. I also think the rear derailleur lock out feature is pretty cool as well...why isn’t that on every rear derailleur?

Looks pretty sweet!

That rear derailleur trick just blew my mind!

@8paolo96

3 жыл бұрын

Sram has had it for years, I've got it on my 2017 rival 1

@endianAphones

3 жыл бұрын

@@8paolo96 I switched to Shimano and I really miss it!

@KenSmith-bv4si

3 жыл бұрын

@@8paolo96 Sram Force doesn't

Great video!

Great video any chance of reviewing the whole as looks amazing

GCN, can you do an efficiency test for small rear sprockets. It strikes me that the complexity of the argument - the chain moves slower but bends through a greater angle with more tension on it - makes the argument difficult to get under the skin of. Also the gear jumps - there is always a problem with changing from one tooth change between sprockets to two - where do we spend most time riding so where do we need the smallest changes? I feel if Sheldon Brown was still alive, he would have had a field day on this topic!

Love the group set. Hard to find a replacement derailleur. It was $275.00.

Once you get the derailer adjusted (mine went out of whack after a tire change), this 1X is incredible. I use this groupset as my endurance bike and it totally works. Let's see about durability after a year of riding...

@Arrynek01

Жыл бұрын

So, the year's gone. How did it hold up? :)

Good sound group, looks good.

I love this groupo

never have i ever wanted something so much

All on order!

I want that on a touring bike, one with 650B that can go on gravel roads (like before there was a thing called gravel bike)... I am just missing a rim brake version for cantilevers...

That clutch is very similar to SRAM's x1 clutch. I love the look of the new set though.

Looks very appealing ( being a Campa fan ) but I'd prefer a more robust 9 speed version to do some extensive loaded bikepackingtrips. Isn't downshifting going to be difficult using a frontloader on your handlebar? It seems you 've run out of black tiewraps Si? And the chain could use a WD-40 treatment imo.

Industry: 1x13 speed Me: Still stuck with 2x8 shimano claris

@hollywoodundead72

3 жыл бұрын

🤮

@kasimovskibiketeam

3 жыл бұрын

It is true. My version - claris or sora.

@hollywoodundead72

3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a new bike went from sora to ultegra and what a world of a difference shifting like butter

@kasimovskibiketeam

3 жыл бұрын

@@hollywoodundead72 sora for me is optimal - good price, good sprocket sets - and it works!

@hollywoodundead72

3 жыл бұрын

@@kasimovskibiketeam get 105 bro

Makes sense to go 9 and keep the efficient regular riding in the middle with the 1x.

Nice improvement to the mouse ears. I am skeptical about smaller rear-cogs and thinner chains

Nice review yer obviously buzzin' about it but pity you didn't discuss the feel of the cassette and tooth distribution more as this seems to be the key aspect to the groupset - high road speeds spinning a 9 tooth cog is one thing but how does it perform on a vicious gravel kicker or a climb with varying grades demanding agile use of several of the top end cogs. There must be some pretty big leaps in that cassette - is it tight at the bottom end with a couple of granny cogs or an even distribution.......etc . Even an 11/34 can be a bit clunky at times. A video of a real life gravel ride with various terrain would be illuminating.

I've been a Campy fan since the 80's. (I still have my a few Superbe Pro and Ofmega components) but never could got into a Campy groupset till a 2000. Centaur groupo. I still have the mechs! I still use the two chainring FD but now, on a triple carbon FSA. I've upgraded C-Record levers, Carbon long cage RD and cogset to Record. Campagnolo is the only groupset I have used in 20 years and the only one I will use in the future. I have a Raleigh RXm (Metal) gravel frame that has never been built up. I'm Beyond excited to purchase this group and build my latest Raleigh. My only wish is that my Scirocco CX35 wheels could be converted to Thru-Axle. Suggestions? Or, just add $500 more and get another set of buttery smooth Campy wheels? Def first world problem.

@einundsiebenziger5488

3 жыл бұрын

Suntour Superbe Pro was an awesome groupset. The rear derailleur was a beauty and the lightest one availabe until it vanished in the mid-1990s. Cranks were much stiffer than Dura Ace. Too bad Suntour could not keep up in the shifting components market.

Like it (& very smart bike generally) even though I've never done any gravel riding. Can I have a go of it ?

Just bought a month ago Chorus 12 for my cross bike ..... I'd have gone Ekar. Presumably, it has the 5 down, 3 up super quick change which of course no other groupset has.

That looks lovely 8)

I'm a fan of the gearing, nifty features here and there that benefit usability, and the fact that they made the new freehub backward compatible with 12spd and lower cassettes in a very clever way (much better than SRAM's proprietary xD hub). I'm not a fan of the aesthetics of the shifters though, they honestly look cheap and look just like shifters from various Microshift groupsets.

"Time for GCN's first ever speed test!" Go over SLOW signage on the road. "80K's an hour apparently" Goes over another SLOW sign on the road!!!

@enuazeal

3 жыл бұрын

that's sign for cars

@GraemeBray

3 жыл бұрын

@@enuazeal No, it is for all road users. Just like traffic lights.

@enuazeal

3 жыл бұрын

@@GraemeBray i know, that was a joke :)

My first bike had Campag GranSport 5 speed, at the time that was all they produced (late 50s early 60s), upgraded by the end of the 60s to an alloy Novo Record. Apart from a brief play with 105 in the 80s & 9 speed XT operated flawlessly by 11speed Athena ergo levers on my touring bike I am Campagnolo through & through. I have a tandem with 8 speed Campagnolo Euclid (the mountain bike group) & a rare Campag tandem chainset. It would appear that Campag fans have just got a groupset for their touring bike, but I agree with the comment that the 1 x chainring looks ugly. Hopefully they'll do a cheaper alloy version soon to get into the OEM market.

As usual, Campi creates something beautiful and probably amazingly functional. I just can't afford it.

I know that the same clothing brand makes the GCN kit and the INEOS kit but hadn't really noticed till today just how similar they look. When Si was giving it all it had and got to 80km odd I glanced at the screen and it really became obvious.

That RD clip, why had no one thought about that before? That's significantly convenient

@8paolo96

3 жыл бұрын

Sram had it in my 2017 rival 1, campy just did not invent anything here

@bernardibrahim

3 жыл бұрын

paolo96 ah youre right, I never noticed. Observing both however I think Campag’s better since the Sram only locks the cage

Hope they will make a 1x rim brake version for road bikes as well

Carbon crank + gravel = ❤️

Makes me want a gravel bike

@insanNH

3 жыл бұрын

you'll love it

@cd0u50c9

3 жыл бұрын

You can do it with a single speed steel frame with canty brakes if you want. This in the video is the perverted opposite end of the scale - each to their own style and budget, but the enjoyment is what really matters.

Looks beautiful ❤️ will there be a competition to win the group set ???? Or do I have to remortgage the house 😂

hi james franco nice see ya again.

Want it!

Love the bike stand at 9:15. Would you call that a bodge or a hack?

5:12 ‘ New “Standard” ‘ - just what people were dreaming about :D

@lincolnlu9869

3 жыл бұрын

That's completely backwards compatible to 9 speed campy cassettes. I'm not sure what more you could ask for.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

New standard with a patented BB seal...

@einundsiebenziger5488

3 жыл бұрын

For whatever reason, the bike industry has been using the term "standard" in the opposite of its acutal meaning for decades now. There can be no such thing as an "own" or "proprietary" standard given that standard means "widely availabe"/ "used by everybody".

What if we combined campy's way of 13 speed with rotor's way of 13 speed. That should ad up to a 14 speed.

Nice bike....superb...

_"I'M IN MY 9"_ "S L O W"

Looks like I need a Bianchi Allroad with Ekar for Christmas.

@litenantjv

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about the impulso all road with a grx 810 id like to have an all italian bike but i'm not sure about the 1x trasmission id still prefer a 2x I would like to see a mid range campagnolo for gravel

@saturupiah5940

3 жыл бұрын

@@litenantjv This is their mid-range offering. In price it sits between Chorus and Centaur.

@litenantjv

3 жыл бұрын

@@saturupiah5940 yeah but it's just a 1x at the moment still expensive though

@saturupiah5940

3 жыл бұрын

@@litenantjv You may have a point, but it's cutting edge technology. I think I paid similar coin for my SRAM XX1 AXS, which is SRAM's top of the line XC groupset. Doesn't make me any faster though. The carbon wheels do however. That said my favourite groupset is the 9 speed Record on my steel De Rosa. It's also better looking than the "carbon jobs." All the best

@cgord600

3 жыл бұрын

@@litenantjv most riders dont use their gears properly. Meaning that riders start in the small ring and work up to the big ring then shift through the back gears until they are flying along. Ideally, they should be bouncing in and out of the big ring while working through the cassette until they are up to speed. Or, you get a 1x setup which covers the full 2x ratio and you are all set.

13 speed might mean chains are operating at more painful angles but if the drivetrain manufacturers can make it work than more power to them. As for gravel riding in general that's really the future of cycling, especially with certain US states that are broke and don't have to funds to maintain their road system.

@dlevi67

3 жыл бұрын

It won't necessarily travel at a much higher angle than an 11 speed - they made it thinner. Whether that impacts durability is a different question...

I'm gonna wait for the 1 tooth!

I'll take the Rotor 1x13... seems like they've taken a couple of Rotor's ideas. Plus the Roter, although heavier, seems to be more durable. The Campagnolo is nice though. I'm sure I would need to take out a loan to get it.

Good old Campag never fails to impress.

As a force axs 1x user, this looks very good, how ever, I'm a little wary on the model specific standards, mainly the chain. The axs flattop chain is very limiting and you are mainly forced (no pun intended) to only buy sram. (cassette, chain ring). Curious to know if this would apply with ekar.

@einundsiebenziger5488

3 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as a "model-specific standard". A standard by definition is something widely available and used by many. But admittedly, everybody is to the bike industry using "standard" in the opposite of its meaning.

curious as to the wheels you are using or recommending..

Great video.... I see you guys are still sporting the “techno stick”to hold up the bike. 🤣🤣🤣🤣