Ok, which would you have, M3 or M4?

@nightnomad635

3 жыл бұрын

M3 Touring with the carbon pack thingy 😁

@tylerrusty1122

3 жыл бұрын

M4

@R4M_Tommy

3 жыл бұрын

Giulia Quadrifoglio.

@tylerrusty1122

3 жыл бұрын

@@R4M_Tommy Agreed

@paulelliott3056

3 жыл бұрын

M2 CS 😜

Even Henry's voice can't save it from the monstrous grilles...

@anydaynow01

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of when Porsche went with the runny egg 996s! Good news is that one of these M4's can be had for cheap in a few years, bad news is no manual so good luck having fun on a trackday.

@Tomoyo0827

3 жыл бұрын

People with no brains often easily distracted by what they see first because they have no intelligence to grasp anything deeper

@IS300Spartan

3 жыл бұрын

T Y Do you feel smarter, now that you’ve questionned other peoples intelligence? What a weird, childish way to express yourself.

@miamitten1123

3 жыл бұрын

You have to see it in person. Saw a 420! It looked good.

@KAZ8264

2 жыл бұрын

@@miamitten1123 I've seen a few around where I live and each time I see them, they become more hideous

Everytime I look at the grill, it looks like a Photoshop project gone wrong.

@0zone247

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly if they halved the grilled horizontally it'll look really nice, the bottom grill just merge together. Then it'll look like a normal car. Still infinitely better looking

@RS-nq8xk

3 жыл бұрын

Especially around 12:40 when it suddenly shows the M3 GTS after it...

@existentialselkath1264

3 жыл бұрын

Most weird car designs like that soon grow on me, but I cant get over this one, it's just horrible

@TheGabrielSilva

3 жыл бұрын

I think I dig it 🤔 I mean, it isn't the most amazing grill I've ever seen, I but I think it can grow on me.

@TheFlyingPineapple

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda like it ngl

"we don't drive on paper" love it

@RRSmurf

3 жыл бұрын

Came from the sports world: "On paper Team 1 should beat Team 2... But we don't play on paper"... Or something like that. Very well used by Henry here 👍🏼

Best thing about the interior is you can no longer see the exterior!

@diegoaponte8512

3 жыл бұрын

lol nice

@aleksitanninen

3 жыл бұрын

A car nobody would try to steal

@gregorygant4242

3 жыл бұрын

Ha, ha, that's good one !

@jds344

3 жыл бұрын

Stfu

@gjonno

3 жыл бұрын

@Orangeman Specsavers are doing some good deals atm 😀

Before I go on watching, I’m going to take a moment and savor the simple elegance and finality of that phrase, “thankfully, we don’t drive on paper”. Henry is made of gold, pure gold.

Only reviews worth watching. Great work as always!

@SvenIffert

3 жыл бұрын

Have a look at "Throttle House"! It might change your opinion. Cheers

@sameerkhatree3712

3 жыл бұрын

Watch throttle hous bro that's some next level shitt

@thordavid1968

3 жыл бұрын

Only reviews worth watching? ever heard about Chris Harris?

@ksp3324

3 жыл бұрын

@@thordavid1968 Lol...the whole top gear crew is a joke. Its just Chris is just better than the other members of the crew.

@Ben-rq5re

3 жыл бұрын

@@ksp3324 Nah, Harris is still the daddy of youtube car journos..

Great film guys! Beautifully shot and presented.

It's like when Deadpool takes his mask off and his wife says 'oh, this is gonna take some getting used to'

@KingThabiso

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

More Brilliance Henry and co!

@Ben-yn5lm

3 жыл бұрын

glad to see you bending over for BMW even in the comments!

@georgeellis4178

3 жыл бұрын

Ben Sutherland every video isn’t it 😂

@behindthen0thing525

3 жыл бұрын

Go away joe.

@davidkelly2542

3 жыл бұрын

Joe's productions are brilliant, I just wish he would be more critical about bmw's.

@the1andonly662

3 жыл бұрын

Start your channel and be critical of BMW’s

There's no reason a car that good has to look that horrendous.

@rogerpayne5336

3 жыл бұрын

Thats true !!

@truantray

3 жыл бұрын

BMW will just test that douchebags will buy anything with the right badge. And by buy, I mean rent or "lease".

@KingThabiso

3 жыл бұрын

Preach bro!!

@KingThabiso

3 жыл бұрын

@@truantray 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣true

Brilliantly edited as ever but long live the original naturally aspirated M3’s with RWD and analogue dashboards.

@coffeebomb_35

3 жыл бұрын

And kidney grills

@alanhung1428

3 жыл бұрын

The e46 is a timeless design

@Watchlover371

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanhung1428 e92 engine was the dogs bollox!

@Tomoyo0827

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, along with oil lamp, open sewerage and witch hunt no doubt you love these too.

@nirfz

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a particular BMW Fan, but i have to say all previous M3 generations (that i can think of, maybe i am missing one) had a certain elegance in their outside and interiour style. This generation somehow has lost that in my view.

Always come here for Henry's view above anyone else. On point.

@ayrtonatif572

3 жыл бұрын

True, This is the 1st one i am watching from all of the ones that's been put out today and i will watch this again once i watch all the others

@behindthen0thing525

3 жыл бұрын

Who's Henry

bring back the Hofmeister Kink, and the E46 kidneys!

@AlexToma

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think the removing the kink it’s more annoying than than the front grille. Not saying that the grille is beautiful, cause is most ugly part of the car. The kink made BMW unique, and then this came, 2 series grand coupe and the god awfully BMW design languages. At least regular 3 series, 5 and 8 are good looking. Still doesn’t help with the grille

@mbal4052

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlexToma 5 series is one of the most bland cars on the road

@totwiedisco

3 жыл бұрын

"Knick". ;-) By the way... the design actually grew to me, especially with the black grill. I do like it now!

This front of this car makes me think of: 👁🐽👁

@Koopagamelouda

3 жыл бұрын

If you could make those eyes frowny, then exactly.

@Neawoulf

3 жыл бұрын

Looks more like the rear of the V6 Ford GT.

@thecraigmachine69

3 жыл бұрын

Nah... it looks like the pigs in Angry Birds.

@thecraigmachine69

3 жыл бұрын

@@creamwobbly haha very true!

@jds344

3 жыл бұрын

Oh is this you ? I didn't knew that

Carfection could make a Dacia Sandero look like an Enzo. Not to say the M4 is the Dacia in this analogy lol, it's really that Carfection is amazing

Your videos are literally the best by far. Great job and keep it up

It might as well be a brilliant piece of engineering, but my God does the grill look bad

@KingThabiso

3 жыл бұрын

I'd never buy this car.🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

The level of quality of Carfection reviews keeps getting better every time. Even when it seems like there is nothing to improve, somehow, some things improve. Unbelievable work, people. Bravo! The theme, story, the writing, presenting, editing, music, the quality, everything is masterful. These intros that you have been coming up with are absolutely amazing. Thank you Carfection. Henry Catchpole, a standing ovation, hats off and a nod, dear sir.

I just clicked to leave a salty comment about the lunge grills.

@thecraigmachine69

3 жыл бұрын

Delicious

@NiTeHaWKnz

3 жыл бұрын

Did you just come over from Doug DeMuro's M3 vid by chance?

@Gentleman...Driver

3 жыл бұрын

@@NiTeHaWKnz No, but good advise. I will go there, too to complain about a car I am not able to afford.

@KingThabiso

3 жыл бұрын

Hate that front. Mxm.

How the tyres are feeling after Mat did drifting?!

@mervi3614

3 жыл бұрын

Mat*

@lp9280

3 жыл бұрын

@@mervi3614 fixed

You know this grille has actually grown on me. saw a new one drive past the other day and it looked pretty good... Give it a few years when we're used to seeing it and I'm sure it'll be loved just as much as previous generations

I think it's hideous and I don't think I'll ever warm to it 😂

@LegendInThaMakin

3 жыл бұрын

It’s only acceptable in black, lower if a bit and use spacers to delete wheel gap and it’s not bad.

@anydaynow01

3 жыл бұрын

@@LegendInThaMakin I think the blue is also good looking, but I smell what your stepping in.

@ArtVandelayOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

@@LegendInThaMakin yeah black helps

@TheImperfectGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Just put an Alpina Bumper on there instead, tbh

@Tomoyo0827

3 жыл бұрын

This design works really good as a friendship filter, if someone say they dont like the M3 because of the grill, you know he's not a car guy so you can just stay away.

As always. Brilliant review and camera work

Excellent review Henry! Proving once again you're at the top of the game. Completely agreed with everything you said.

Against all odds, I think I’ve just fallen in love with this car too. I thought I was going to hate it but, it has so much character and charisma. The engine sounds fantastic through the video. I love what I’m hearing. It sounds snarly and angry. From what Henry said, it seems like it has got some of that M balance back and they’re still making a manual.

Great review as always. The F-series fronts were so gorgeous in my view that this is a terrible let down. Its not just the grill, its the 1-series shape headlights as well.

Your reviews are so well composed. Merci.

Amazing review, Thanks Henry!

Never heard anyone calling the exhaust more “creamy smooth” felt like I was watching a food channel

The grill looks far better on the M models than the standard cars.

@thecraigmachine69

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a bit like saying my wife looks far better with Catchpole’s sideburns than with a moustache.

@ArtVandelayOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

No and no

@DrewCB

3 жыл бұрын

That’s not saying much.

@gobinduppal4429

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree

Fantastic review, as always!

Superb review as always

Fantastic review as always. I too was concerned about trading the fabulous DCT for the ZF-TC. Would still rather have a go at the manual though 😂

Sometimes companies have to learn lessons the hard way. Years from now when they abandon this overall design people will say, WTF were they thinking??

@wernerdanler2742

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Especially since years from now they will be producing nothing but electric cars.

@ivanlazarevic78

3 жыл бұрын

I think people will love this M4 in 30 years...it would be one of the last great IC cars.Front grill isnt a beauty but it is distinctive and that is also important.

@jWizard

3 жыл бұрын

Lexus: Let's put a huge X in front of our cars for the "X Factor". Audi: Let's upsize our Octagrille, to cater for the American Market... BMW: I'm feeling left out here... What's Germany's most popular food? "German Pork Knuckle... Okay... Let's take that as an inspiration... 🐽

Yet another comprehensive and informative video. Carfection set the bar for all to aspire ..... thanks

Excellent vid, Henry.

Torque converter automatic and an hideous aggressive front. So it's a German muscle car?

@brakinglate8828

3 жыл бұрын

except muscle cars are horrible at corners

@anydaynow01

3 жыл бұрын

@@brakinglate8828 Well the new ones are pretty good at them, seeing a ZL1 or GT350 run down a GT3 at a trackday it's a sight to behold, good time to be alive!

@joaquinpaul8205

3 жыл бұрын

@@brakinglate8828 yeah we're gonna need you to get your ass out of the 60s bruh because muscle cars at least for the last couple of generations have been whooping sportscar ass wholesale around on tracks

@brakinglate8828

3 жыл бұрын

@@joaquinpaul8205 which sporstcars? miatas? They are fast in a straight line but thats it.

@brakinglate8828

3 жыл бұрын

@@anydaynow01 GT3 has 500hp, ZL1 and GT350 has 650 and 550 respectively. They have extra HP to get extra speed on the straights coz they suck at corners.

While I know I’ll get used to the front end, the simplicity of older BMWs make them timeless in a way that I don’t think this one will be. It’s not that I don’t like it, it’s just so clearly done as a marketing ploy to out-do the competition in “boldness” and “presence” rather than for beauty’s sake.

@Johnnygga

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but wait until they perfect it. A facelift will clean it up and make it looks amazing. In person I think it looks great

@joe718gt4

3 жыл бұрын

Having rather conservative styling doesn't help get new customers though

@pauldoodnath8068

3 жыл бұрын

@@joe718gt4 but you shouldn't try to abandon your core clientele

@joe718gt4

3 жыл бұрын

@@pauldoodnath8068 every business has this problem. How to get new customers while trying to avoid alienating the old. That said, a boomer like me would rather have a E36 M3 in Dakar Yellow

@idokwatcher2062

3 жыл бұрын

@@pauldoodnath8068 When you understand their core clientele is now in China you see why they did it.

The best review out there, you the man Henry

Arguably one of the best car review channels on the web, another great review Henry.

Henry’s opinion is the only one needed for this car.

This is weird but I found it satisfying how the car hugged the curb at 1:57

Thanks Henry, always on top of his game

Love Henry! He is so Animated! I always make Carfection Video my TOP Choice to watch first! Been with you guys since the beginning and have always been well entertained, and informed.

As amazing as I’m sure it’s is, I can’t forgive that grill and the sound, well lack of...

Great review 👍🏻 thanks Henry 👍🏻

Amazing review and video, congratulations yet again to you, Henry, and to all the good men and women at Carfection.

I see it and the Looney Tunes theme comes to mind. 🤣

I ounce had one of my friends show me how the grill on bmw's got bigger over time. I didn't notice how bad it was until I saw this car...

great vid thanks for sharing with us

Love your videos, you’re still best of breed on car reviews and inspire me to make better content.

I got upset when they showed the f82 M4. That was such a good looking car I can’t get passed it I really can’t learn to love it

BMW has completely lost it. Thank you though, for the review :) Always love these.

Superb video - best of the reviews I've watched so far, great work team! I'd go M4, although that said, at the price, a used M8 is a very very tempting proposition....Looking forward to end of lockdown and getting some test drives booked in!

Brilliant review!

Nice video production quality. Very engaging watch from M4 to M3.

I'm not the kind of person that always say 'old is better' blindly. I've been wanting to like this new look but damn it's hard.

@hello.itsme.5635

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Usually major design changes grow on me. This one just stays f..ing ugly. Maybe not as bad as their SUVs though.

Was waiting for Henry to review the new M3/4:always brilliant 👏

Great film as usual!

"Comfort" "everyday" "smooth" sounds like the M4 should be the 440i to me.

@Noukz37

3 жыл бұрын

Or more like an older M5's... In general, cars have become too porky, this one even has a porky snout as well. XD

@supremeetnel7707

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t you hear what he said. “We don’t drive on paper” . Or do your drive on what you hear.

@lwwells

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremeetnel7707 These are words straight from THE man’s mouth while driving. These aren’t words from his mouth while reading.

@supremeetnel7707

3 жыл бұрын

@@lwwells exactly drive the car and get your own experience

@lwwells

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremeetnel7707 Why are you watching a review of it then? And then why are you taking the time to post on reviews of a car that you do not value?

That's a BIG looking car

@supraJZA80s

3 жыл бұрын

I saw the new 4 series the other day and it looked a 6 series side on in terms of size

@Zero_Ninety

3 жыл бұрын

Ever seen a modern 3 next to an E46? The size difference is amazing.

Very nice review. Thanks.

There’s a reason you have over 900k subs .. another great Vlog Henry.✌️

The price of the f80 will go up

@NyckLP

3 жыл бұрын

If the F80 price goes up (which i agree with you, it definitely will), the E92 and E46 will reach Mars by the end of this week. Why? Why the front grille? Why is the only option an auto? Has BMW absolutely lost it?

That m3 color was very nice i was looking forward to a review on it until you said back to the m4🤣🤣🤣

The swaps between M3 and M4 are genius 👏 Amazing car, brilliant video as always

So much work goes into these videos...And it shows!

There surely won’t be one single person that would say, “hey I like that front end”. Oh and “I’m glad BMW put an auto in it too”

@mynt253

3 жыл бұрын

There are people that say the first thing, but to each their own. I'm not one of them. The front end far from the only thing I dislike about its design.

@hassanger8128

3 жыл бұрын

I like the front end

Oh great! Another 1725kg “sports” car 🙄

@idokwatcher2062

3 жыл бұрын

No no you don't understand it's for safety! Imagine if it was 1350KG like that "very unsafe" Porsche Cayman! The horror!

@GoldenCroc

3 жыл бұрын

Its not supposed to be even a "sports" car. The M3/M4 never was. Its a super saloon/GT type of car.

@liverpoolscottish6430

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoldenCroc This latest offering isn't a saloon/GT, it's just a hideous sack of shit.

@GoldenCroc

3 жыл бұрын

@@liverpoolscottish6430 You may well feel that it is a bad super saloon/GT, but it still is one. Please try to keep the discussion on a reasonable level.

Cracking film as ever, so nicely shot and narrated. Am now v tempted to get one!

Carfection really fills the gap where old Top Gear / Grand Tour left, with car reviews & films. Even though this is more factual, it's still quite entertaining. Thank you very much for these.

M3 > M4

Neither, last m3 for me was a e92 and thankfully I'm old and still have my E46 M3 and 2 air cooled 911s...all manuals. But your reviews are in the top 3

@MrPTManning

3 жыл бұрын

that's a dream lineup you got. I so hope to put a 911 next to my E92 M3 someday.

@G50_GT3M3CSLM2C

Жыл бұрын

@@MrPTManning Just added a M2 Comp with a Carbahn tune from Steve Dinan, had to add BBS wheels and 295 section rears to control the wheels from spinning @80. Scary Fast

Great video. Thanks man.

Superb as always

I don’t care how good it is, when it looks like that you can keep it. What was BMW thinking of?

@KingThabiso

3 жыл бұрын

BMW doesn't respect us. 😅

The color reminds me of Aston Martin vantage

A cracking review I thought the pinnacle was your Morgan review! But i think this is simply awesome. Might have to buy it

TOP review. Thanks

Owning a BMW e30 in red, fully restored to brand new, I can't like this car even for its beautiful driving characteristics that Henry described. The direction BMW with its styling is the wrong one. If people truly hate it, don't buy it. Vote with your wallet. A car is as much about its driving as it looks. Especially as a road car. This car looks like a blast to drive but I think anyone looking to buy an M car will go for any other version besides this one. For me personally, I would buy the beautiful F80, a timeless design. The G82 and G80, not so much... This will be a forgotten M car.

@kennyd7667

3 жыл бұрын

it will still probably sell well, that's just M cars for you

@Anaxarxes

3 жыл бұрын

No m car is forgotten. And this one also will not be. They called the E39 M5 fat, the E36 M3 underpowered. But now they are seen as pure driving machines. This lot will be as well. I even would like to say that I like the grill. Nice homage to 30's styling with long kidneys, and it has presence, aggressiveness to it. What I do not like is - also with the new 8 - is the C pillar. With the kink is just too subtle and the whole C pillar is make the car look fat and bloated. The M3 does not have this problem at all hence it's the better design IMO.

@dravde7325

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t let a silly grill destroy the car. You could always go to the aftermarket

@kennyd7667

3 жыл бұрын

@@dravde7325 tbh I've started to like the grill more and more

@Collluded

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennyd7667 It will sell well but I don't believe it will sell as good as it could have. Just my opinion though :)

4:15 ah, yes. Because if it weren't for the dimples I wouldn't have a clue as to which paddle was up and which was down!

@ziggyfreud5357

3 жыл бұрын

Love it :)

@gregorygant4242

3 жыл бұрын

The up dimples give you a tingle up your spine when you touch them , that's how you know !

Thanks Henry you are the best. Was debating to get one or not, you said all the things I wished for!

Great review.

unless someone releases an aftermarket front for this car its a hard pass from me. disgusting

@PrepareYourself85

3 жыл бұрын

Prior Design has a few good concepts. They will release a bodykit with a new front bumper.

@RRSmurf

3 жыл бұрын

The front is terrible. The side is.... generic. Back is pretty nice. At least it apparently drives pretty well 👍🏼

@richardtickler8555

3 жыл бұрын

@@RRSmurf for about 2 years, looking at bmws recent track record

@KingThabiso

3 жыл бұрын

😭😭😱totally horrible.

@henzo7087

3 жыл бұрын

Looks very good. Why you people dont like it

I never thought I would see a bmw uglier than the e46 compact

@thatcopenguy

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the iX?

@lolkingrd440

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatcopenguy I just did my eyes😭

@klasseact6663

3 жыл бұрын

...or the i8😲

@th3b0untyhunter

3 жыл бұрын

E46 compact with the msport kit is a lovely thing. It's the E36 compact that's ugly

What a brilliant video and production quality!! Best part:- No bragging about the grill.. just a mention “Like it or loath it, this grill deserves it place with its precedors!

I love BMW M and also I love Henry's reviews. So this video is just outstanding work.

Nice content, the front is growing on me, specially in grey color.

"It does everything wrong but hides it well"

Very objective review.... thank you!

Brilliant video review guys! The M3/M4 looks a great M car! 👌

For some reason I think Mercedes are going to go "hold my beer" and butcher the C63 with a turbo 4 and popcorn exhaust, then the M3 will look amazing :D (hopefully not)

I cancelled my order on one, manual M3 in green, maybe I should make a new order again. The weight is just scary and I feel depreciation might be a player in a few months.

@joe718gt4

3 жыл бұрын

You are better off with a 4.0 GTS maybe

@5555petros

3 жыл бұрын

Wait until the grille fixing bodykits are available.

@thecraigmachine69

3 жыл бұрын

Better off buying an electric car.

@anydaynow01

3 жыл бұрын

The depreciation on this one will be mighty considering the initial price. Nothing special about it and plenty to go wrong.

@carsontrack7351

3 жыл бұрын

@@joe718gt4 I already own a GTS 2.5 and GT4 :) 718, best platform by far, was looking for this as a daily.

Another great review Henry. Am very much looking forward to the touring as its been a long time coming and I think Alpina have just got the jump on them at the moment. Would definitely love one of these though it's like a BMW mustang and I think will become a classic very fast!

Always Carfection first! Another fantastically balanced, beautifully considered, passionate and informed review. As for the car, I'll stick with my E46 330ci thanks!

The price of this car is getting real close to a 992 Carrera S. Looks aside, the M4 is probably an awesome car, but I know I'd rather have a 911 if they are priced similarly.

@XcoolcoolbeansbeansX

3 жыл бұрын

excuse me? A 992 s STARTS at $115,000 with no options. that's $50,000 for "real close". Maybe a cayman, even that is a stretch.

@marloupieterse3343

3 жыл бұрын

@@XcoolcoolbeansbeansX here in South Africa both starts from around R1.95 million. Dont know what's up with BMW SA then

@gobinduppal4429

3 жыл бұрын

No way man. The 992 is well over 100k. That said I would pick a Cayman GTS 4.0 manual over either.

@jldp24

17 күн бұрын

​@@gobinduppal4429lol..a Cayman gt4 is a M2 equivalent. They nimble.

The looks are a deal breaker for me, M3 slightly easier on the eye.

The quality of this video is amazing

Great Review