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UPDATE: Just took delivery of an XSR900 GP press bike for the next 2 weeks and immediately recognised the right hand switchgear from this video. So it looks like they've borrowed it for this test bike, and it does indeed house the sensor for a RBW throttle. As such, I'd be very very very surprised if the next version of the T7 doesn't ship with more up-to-date electronics.
If it ain't broken don't try and fix it. If they change the looks they'll probably spoil it. If they try for more power, they'll lose the low down torque, and it doesn't need any more tech, it's simplicity is a selling point.
@pinkiewerewolf
2 ай бұрын
👍
@AdventureBert
2 ай бұрын
Facts
@zombeloffical
2 ай бұрын
If it gets cruise control ill buy one😊
@l1qu1dm3t4lIV
2 ай бұрын
That's the exact reason I want one. It'll be perfect for my DRZ's big brother.
It always amuses me when “influencers” say the T7 is “lagging behind the competition” with a “lack” of technology. That’s what makes the T7 superior to the competition. I’m selling my 890 Adventure because my recent acquisition of a 24’ T7 is more of what a purist is after. I hope the 24’ T7’s TFT dash doesn’t get moisture on the inside like the KTMs, or the cam issues that many owners are going through… luckily mine checked OK at the 11k service. I’m just glad the T7 is finally readily available here in the states. Yamaha, don’t change too much. The rocker switch, you can if you want, I don’t mind it. The exhaust needs reworked so it won’t hit the swingarm after crashes, and upgraded suspension would be nice. Maybe more fuel capacity… maybe, not a huge thing. Otherwise, keep the price low and we can mod it ourselves.
@Blockbuster2033
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree! Same with the tubeless wheels. We hardcore offroaders want tubes in our wheels.
@GCTO239
2 ай бұрын
Totally agree with both comments.
@exothermal.sprocket
2 ай бұрын
It's the false equivalence of "more technology" being "leading." Perhaps more customers would think along the lines of "this vs. that, this has more than that" and buy the thing that has more whizzbags. But these days, I just don't look at technology the same way in all aspects of life. I often look at technology as invasive, privacy-destroying, the tools of corporations to gain control of my life, dignity-destroying, laziness-inducing, and brain-restructuring. Why must everything trend toward less use of one's mind and more convenience? Who or what gains control of our lives in this trend? There's a certain amount of things that individuals need to be in control of and that's just life, that's the way biology/economy/energy/life is; either you are responsible or that responsibility is consented to someone else. Simplicity is often better. I would like motorcycle companies to figure out more simplistic ways of making the riding experience better, which does not mean STUFF THAT DAZZLES THE EYES. I'm talking about brakes and suspension function, and engine flexibility. I don't mean more power, but I mean broader power and more efficient power and more flexible power.
@pinkiewerewolf
2 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket You’ve just put into the written word what many of us have been feeling and you said it better than I ever could.
@silverdale3207
2 ай бұрын
Yep, I'll be keeping my original T7, don't want or need TC or Cruise control, simplicity is the main reason people buy them.
Updated Suspension, tubeless wheels, low slung fuel tank, removable rear subframe.
@mrtopcat2
2 ай бұрын
...and the same ridiculously tall engine.
@mountainridersvk
2 ай бұрын
@@mrtopcat2 yeah, and ridiculously reliable😉
@mrtopcat2
2 ай бұрын
@@mountainridersvk Bulky and heavy usually are. The challenge however has always been to build small handy AND reliable. But those standards are no longer met yet apparently by your reply accepted.
@mountainridersvk
2 ай бұрын
@@mrtopcat2 well… I admit, T7 is top heavy, but not overall heavy, 204kg wet in this class is pretty good. I have one (heavily modified) and only bike I like more to ride is 890 ADV R, but again, I wouldn’t trust it on 5000km offroad trip as I did on my T7🤷♂️🙈…
@mrtopcat2
2 ай бұрын
@@mountainridersvk Thank you. Good points. Overall weight might be OK, but top heavy to me is inexcusable. IMHO it comes from lack of passion for dedicated off-road engines, which these days seem to be the same story with most manufacturers; To save cost, they build one fits all purpose engines, which then turn out to be tall and top heavy. And people are OK with it? 🙈 In some ways I fault the end of large displacement Paris-Dakar bikes and the corresponding lack of competition in that class. I have an older XRV750. It's 62 horsepower is more than plenty with most notably a very low center gravity. Which makes it super easy to handle, even far easier than my 600 single cylinder.
I would love tubeless wheels and and an adjustable windscreen. Cruise control would be great too but really, I love the simplicity of the bike. I just hate changing tubes on the side of the road and I like being able to put the windscreen lower when off-road.
@IRLtrolls
2 ай бұрын
Exactly what I said. We need tubless wheels, that’s a huge selling point for adventure touring
I've owned 47 motorcycles in my time..from 210hp down.....I now have a world raid...have travelled with it...got to say .probably the best bike for all round I've owned.....😮
@johnpanick6080
2 ай бұрын
I'd love to have one but not available in the United States 😢
@headwinded1948
2 ай бұрын
While I don't own my T7 any longer, it was one of my favorite bikes for sure. I could see myself owning another in the future.
@davidhall370
2 ай бұрын
Totally agree. My World Raid is a pleasure to ride and I’ve had all types of bikes.
Realistically all the T7 needs is tubeless wheels and it will be pretty much perfect. Cruise control would be nice but that means TBW. Most can live without cruse control or just get a throttle lock for $100. The tubeless wheels is something that’s very important to most riders
@_AVAM
2 ай бұрын
An adjustable seat would be great for shorter riders. For me it is low enough, but for my friends the bike is just too tall. The Africa Twin has an adjustable seat. The seat is way thinner than the Tenere and 2 cm lower and the bike has better ground clearance. The Tenere is too top heavy, a lower tank like the KTMs would be good also.
@stephenbarabas6286
2 ай бұрын
I'll be the idiot and ask......what is TBW 😂
@IRLtrolls
2 ай бұрын
@@stephenbarabas6286 Throttle by wire. Electrical signal to the ECU instead of a physical throttle cable
@IRLtrolls
2 ай бұрын
@@_AVAM The lower tank on the KTM is very exposed and susceptible to damage. I’d rather have the T7s tank but I’m tall so I get it’s different for different people
@pw3591
2 ай бұрын
Yes tubeless tyres, and a hydraulic clutch would be a nice upgrade.
Choosing a T7 is really easy in Canada. Only one variant available. I don't know why North America never gets the full line up.
Bought my 2022 Tenere because of the simplicity. I dont want traction control, ride by wire, cruise control, TFT display...etc. I want to be the motorcycles brain, not the motorcycle be my brain! Love my T7! 72 Hp is plenty for 75 MPH cruising and more than enough off road. To me its a perfect partner in the stable to my DR650
@dashuntas.m4045
2 ай бұрын
The DR650 is the main reason I haven’t gotten a mid-capacity adv; it’s my go-to allrounder and does everything (off-road, trails, touring etc) quite alright while being much lighter so I just got a dedicated road bike (R9T) to complement it. The T7 is just a higher tier DR imo, how do you make owning both work?
@bensnipes7288
2 ай бұрын
They are both paid for! Lol. I take the DR for the gnarly rides, camping in the mountains etc. The T7 is my 300 mile day ride bike for exploring farther than the DR....especially if there is a lot of freeway involved to get there.
@Booki89
Ай бұрын
@@bensnipes7288you don't camp with the T7? I to feel they are too similar
@bensnipes7288
Ай бұрын
@@Booki89 I do moto camp with the T7. I meant throw the DR in the back of the truck for friends/family camping. Much easier to load than the T7!
We need a 450- 500cc Tenere!
@davidmallia628
2 ай бұрын
45 hp is enough. Hence a 450cc twin.
@Dzinbhudist
2 ай бұрын
I want opposite tenere 900 😁
@davidmallia628
2 ай бұрын
@@DzinbhudistBoth would have a market.
@chrishart8548
2 ай бұрын
@@davidmallia628 we need a T3 with the R3 engine doesn't that make 43hp. and a XSR300 and maybe even a Tenere 125 and a tracer 125 and a tracer 300.
@davidmallia628
2 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 Yes, using the R3 p-twin could be even better!
I’m 20k into mine and without doubt it’s the best bike I’ve owned . 50/50 mix of TET trail riding and road tours . Personally I would like just a little bit more power on the newer bike even though the engine is the showpiece . I’m old school and love the simplicity of the T7 but you can’t argue that on long transition days across France for example cruise control would be lovely. Also for me just upping to 18 litre tank would be enough so you can comfortably get to 200 miles range.
I'm totally fine with the HP number. Particularly because if the displacement gets bumped past 700cc in my area of the world, I'll see a giant jump in insurance costs.
@chrishart8548
2 ай бұрын
When it goes past 600cc In the UK we get a huge bump in road tax. Yet we have all these 650's now that pay the higher rate the same as a 1300gs a R1800 a 2500 rocket.
@downhillupside
2 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 I REALLY hate the arbitrary displacement thresholds that governments have slapped on motorcycling. They rarely if ever make sense.
@podunkman2709
2 ай бұрын
U need torque not HP. HP if u ride super bike.
@chrishart8548
2 ай бұрын
@downhillupside really don't make sense for single cylinder bike. A 650 single pays the most amount of road tax and most often makes the least power.
@user-vd1uz3dj8l
2 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 Your gov is more weinnyfied that USA. Ours go 250-500-750-1000+. Problem is anyone over 16 can (if they have money) can buy a 1000 cc or bigger sport bike with zero experience. Like Justin Bieber buying Lambo. Then when they crash and kill themselves or some innocent person, the politicians punish all of us.
I’ve always loved the T7 but the fact that we can’t the World Raid over here in the U.S is a major turn off for me… I really hope they change that with this next launch.
@GM_YYC
2 ай бұрын
Same here in Western Canada. The only I've seen are the "base" T7.
@casey3057
2 ай бұрын
@@GM_YYC such a bummer.
They're going after Suzuki and Honda. They will increase the displacement to a 750cc, add RBW for ride modes and traction controls, the world raid fuel tank. It will reach 80 or so HP. Hopefully they put better suspension or at least spring rate... And it'll sell for an extra $1,000
@kenp4464
Ай бұрын
Not sure they need to go after Suz/Hon as the Tenere is already winning. They can keep the same CCs without changing the engine. Change some air and mapping and likely tap 80hp.
Tbh I think HP numbers are fine and that's what makes this bike so special. It's not over the top crazy in power figures and that makes it way more usable off-road. There's a video by Motology films demonstrating how more horsepower is not always equal to better performance.
@Adventure_blac
2 ай бұрын
I agree. Ride by wire would be a great addition I’d think. Add cruise control, 2 or 3 ride modes, and tubeless wheels
@LowQualityPigeon
2 ай бұрын
@@Adventure_blac yeah true. Cruise control would be a really great addition to the bike.
@Adventure_blac
2 ай бұрын
@@LowQualityPigeon for sure. Not sure how much work that is though to go from cable to ride by wire. It’s already 10800. If the price is at or near 12 that’s aprilia Touareg 660 money and that bike from all reviews and spec is a superior bike in every way besides reliability I guess.
@podunkman2709
2 ай бұрын
U need torque not HP. HP if u ride super bike.
Ride by wire, CC/TC - not so much ride modes. Tubeless wheels (option). CC and Tubeless is literally the only gripe a lot of owners have, and introducing these 2 will exponentially increase sales. Although i have become proficient in tube maintenance, it is nice to have the option of having tubeless wheels for road adv touring, even mile off road.
Fix the exhaust can issue and give it a bolt on subframe
@ripmax333
2 ай бұрын
Yes, bolt on rear subframes should be mandatory on all adventure and dual sport bikes.
It'll be new paint and updated seat at most u wanna bet?😂
the problem isnt the HP the problem is the weight, the T7 isnt significantly lighter then the KTM 890r but has much less hp so either Yamaha needs to increase the power or lower the weight to make it competitive
@emilenossin5098
2 ай бұрын
I found the KTM/ Norden to be noticeably smaller, which I didn't like at 190 cm. More power comes from a higher compression ratio which also means lower reliability, worse consumption and a lot more engine heat. I'm not sure I would prefer that.
@je7647
2 ай бұрын
@@emilenossin5098 honestly with the frame the t7 speed/hp is pretty much perfect in my opinion. people aren't getting it to go real fast, but it kinda can
@Jonathan-ez8tq
17 күн бұрын
Once my t7 extreme will have the warranty time done, i will remap it to 82hp. Will be perfect. This bike is already gorgeous.
@gregducati999
17 күн бұрын
@@emilenossin5098 the KTM and Norden also have a extra 200cc and I think the reason they are unreliable is KTM has bad build quality and Yamaha R1 is a highly tuned engine yet reliable
just gone from an XSR900 to a Tenere, i reckon 72hp is plenty for me.
Goldwing had cruise control in 84. Just saying 😂
Great content as always; please let us know when you know more about the Yamaha R9.
@dante556
2 ай бұрын
I'm also waiting for R9. I was close to buying MT. However, the decision was made that it was worth waiting, hopefully I wouldn't be disappointed
I bet that new linkage is for lower ride height. It is a pain point, all competitors are lower. In the current T700 upper shock mount is right under rider's crotch. So the seat can't be lowered. With the new linkage, the lower mount of the shock significantly lower than before, so the upper point could be moved lower too. So lower height with the same clearance, travel and shock. Exactly what T700 not so advanced riders need.
Change the exhaust, add cruise control, and tubeless tires maybe......
The only thing that would really improve the T7 in my opinion is lowering the center of gravity and/or making it lighter. Oh, and give it a less in your face, horizontal display. When I ride I want to see the road and not some stupid screen. Keep the wire throttle. It is actually a sellig point to me, when all manufacturers use computerised throttles nowadays.
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
U know they do that only to maximise their management profits right? But y'all keep manipulating this facts like it's some kind of advantage to make bike reliable 😂
Do more of the riding videos. I miss them.
It looks like a World Raid.
Come on Yamaha, let's have that 900 Super Tenere you have missing from your line up.
19-inch front wheel option .if you want a more road oriented option
@chrishart8548
2 ай бұрын
Always a 19" inch wheel option just go to a place that builds wheels
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
That's probably the worst possible bike for more road orientated adv riding short of single cylinders 😂👍🏿
I hope they don’t spoil the bike by chasing power and adding weight via displacement, the CP2 is one of the great wee hooligan back road motors
A mini world raid tank for the T7 to adress the topheaviness maybe, hope they dont step out of the lane to much regarding the apperance, since it is spot on as it is now.
Another great video, they should do 450 Rally version ❤❤
Move the petrol tank to below the seat. Tubeless tyres would me nice otherwise it's perfect
Tbh with you, I honestly believe what we are looking at here is the facelift World Raid, not the standard T7. I’ll qualify what I’m saying based on the width of the lower faring, the shot that shows two openings on the rubber camo cover for 2 fuel caps. It has a new rear linkage probably to lower the seat height (the current T7WR is high).
The T7 has been relying heavily upon its basic design, but nowadays the younger generation like their tech and this is where it lags behind. The power is on the low side also. BMW F900GSA for me🎉
@Blockbuster2033
2 ай бұрын
As part of the "younger generation" who has just bought a T7 extreme, I strongly disagree.
If it’s shaft drive , eu5 and a full make over with a road version option and improve dive I’ll buy it
@GM_YYC
2 ай бұрын
Get a GS
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
U know what company Yamaha is and what they do? They design new bike once every 20years and then change it's colour scheme every few years for next 20.years. they not exactly innovative, never make big changes 😂
looks like it's still running tube tires, im not in the market anymore since I bought a tuareg but I really hope they offer a tubeless T7
@GM_YYC
2 ай бұрын
How do you like your Tuareg. I'm in the market for an offroad bike after getting myself a 2024 RT. It's now between the T7 and the Tuareg.
@mac001texas
2 ай бұрын
@GM_YYC tuareg rips offroad and feels very light, seat is lower than tenere as well, but I didn't consider the tenere anyways because of how top heavy they are with no cruise and no tubeless wheels, tuareg is better in all aspects. Also the Tenere is harder to lift than an africa twin because of how tall and topheavy it is, so the way I see it, why wouldn't I just get an africa twin at that point because I'm not even benefiting from the teneres curb weight on paper if it feels that heavy in reality. Tuareg is just very easy to handle.
@sspirito3130
2 ай бұрын
The Tuareg is essentially a better T7. It has everything that would make the T7 a better bike, such as low centre of gravity, tubeless wheels, cruise control and safety aids
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
@@sspirito3130yeah it's just like t7, except everythings different and better 😂
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
@@mac001texas👍🏿👍🏿 thumbs up, the only person in this section that gets it. U want performance get Tuareg. U want reliable get AT. t7 and ktms sux big time for opposite reasons
if a update is on the way, then please make it lighter and better suspension and keep the price close to the actual one. No more HP needed or fancy electronics needed. I actually buyed the T7 because of its simplicity. Cheers.
Tubeless rims would be my request....
Do ya think they'll fit a hinge on the fuel cap this time around!
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
Naah mate, that cost r&D and increase production cost for about 5cents per bike, can't allow to cut that stuff into profits!
Hopefully it's a T9 with CP3
As a 80/ 20 off / on road rider - 72 HP is plenty. Decat and remap opens the T7 up and is plenty fast on road, and pushes the limits off. As a solo rider at times, and having dented plenty of rims, I'd prefer to keep my old school tubes any day. Any more power and she'll need power modes and will muddy up throttle control, my top priority when really hucking it over sketchy terrain, IMO what this bike was designed for.
I owned one for a few years. I think it needs a bit more hp, cruise control and lower the weight/bring the centre of weight down with split tanks. The bike always looked awesome. Better suspension. Braided brake lines. I felt like with the old bike it needed a few mods to make it good. Put better grab handles on the back and a little rack. Most other bikes come with that. I sold mine mainly because the power was very boring (Coming from owning a lot of dirt bikes.) and even though it was a good bike it just didn’t have the magic that I wanted.
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
Same story of euros Vs Japs for ever. POS bikes but reliable, Vs performance and modern but never reliable
The T7 has a huge following and a bit of a cult so doesn’t need expensive upgrades. Any one who moans about 72 hp and can’t jump , wheelie or power slide needs to have a word with themselves. It’ll cruise at 80mph. What more do you want , an orange and white bike that’s scrap after the warranty has ended ?
Cruise control , 4 hp more , 2 litre bigger tank on standard model , rear brake fix , bolt on exhaust hanger to frame , tubeless , how good would it be ?
Please keep it dead fugging simple and shade tree mech friendly. Simpler is better....been buying and riding since the early 80s, short of fuel injection, new tech generally screws up bikes adds weight, complexity, and dealer dependence while reducing reliability.
Cruise and tubeless would be most excellent 🎸
The only issue with t7 is that it came about 20years too late.... Yamaha in their cost cutting and greed craze forgot Its not 2001 anymore :)
Oh and better suspension compliance on small bumps. No more electronics
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
Nope. Ull get the cheapest possible suspension for next 20years. God forbid Yamaha put on adv bike anything else than the worst cheapest forks possible
Turn it into a KTM 790 with Yamaha reliability and durability… buying it tomorrow…
Horsepower is fine. One of the reasons I bought the T7 is because of the simplicity. I wish the other variants were available here in 🇺🇸.
I love the look of Tenere so I took one out on a test ride and the power on the road was really lacklustre.
Still no lower chain guide. That & a hinge for the gas cap should be mandatory. Love my T7. It's the small things that get me
Nah, they're not going to announce any changes to the CP2 with the Tenere 700. Just let Yamaha get the Tenere 900 to market...
@silverdale3207
2 ай бұрын
Yep, put all the gizmos the sealed road guys want in that one and leave the T7 basic for us real ADV riders😁
I dont know if i am the only one thinking about it but the engine looks rather different. Enginecover and exhaustheaders and other stuff. i hope they got a bit more power out of that engine ( not for the T7 spesificly but i generall i think its good)
Hey, do you still have and ride your Tiger?
NICE!I'm holding off till we can get some sort of suspension upgrade in the US. Hope 2025 is the year.
likely will another model to the line up but with additions - they will ring the T7 as far as possible and rightly so , more HP is not needed - most out there cannot manage 70hp properly as is
I think they have to add RBW and forged pistons to keep up with emissions reg.'s. If they need a soft roder, why not a CP3 T9.... Probably not going to drive up T7 used prices with these changes...
The only thing the T7 needs is cruise control and tubeless wheels. I don’t want any rider modes or other electronics.
@wauroware
2 ай бұрын
Cruise control needs more electronics, you can not have cruise control without Throttle by wire (TBW or RBW)
@2wheels.are.better.than4
2 ай бұрын
@@wauroware correct 👍🏼 I’ll take TBW for the cruise control but I don’t want rider modes or traction control or wheelie control or any of those other electronic rider aides.
Will it be available in the US ? I like and want a World Raid which is not available here. Hopefully this one will be similar. I agree that tubeless wheelsnwould make everyone happier. The Turareg has them so come on Yamaha!
I think the basic simple “ tech “ package is in my opinion.is all it needs But if they had a “ more tech “ upspec model “ would also be good for those that want that . A bit more power would be nice , but not necessary- as you say just to be competitive with the other boys .
Ehh Yamaha and the T7. We in the United States have so much more usable off-road terrain than Europe and we only get the one bland T7 model.
@kenp4464
Ай бұрын
In Canada, I spent 58 days the last 2 summers travelling offroad in a Side by Side. And I never left Newfoundland.😅 A long range tubeless tenere and I'll own one.
Based on my experience riding a T7 off road it has plenty of horsepower. I bought mine because it didn't have any technology and its a reliable manufacture. One thing I wish it had was a larger fuel tank.
You dont want Gizmos offroad and the power is perfect for the dirt. Most adv bikes it competes with have more tech you have to learn to bypass and fight. The reason the bike is so amazing is that it is what you make it. It promotes skilled riding instead of a bike you just cruise around on
Yeah I dont think I'll be updating to the new model when it comes out... unless they drop a few kilos, improve the standard suspension and keep the price competitive then my 2020 model stays - thanks for the unpacking vid tho 🙂
Exhaust hanger looks like the same flawed design… unforgivable
A removable rear Subframe and an Option of a lower seat height ( frome the suspension ) are the things that I would like to see. Yes yes I know..what's the purpose of lower suspension travel on an adventure bike! Bear in mind that not everybody rides like the riders shown in the videos, for the average Joe a 1 inch less travel won't be such the end of the world, Just my Opinion.
With such clear pics specially in dramatic angles they are more like leaked shots rather than spy shots
Why do some companies like Kawasaki and Suzuki just make a bike in the 80's and never change it, but some companies have to try to change their bikes every 5 years to "stay competitive"?
leave it alone its good the way it is
another great video. Thank you
How is the Exhaust mounting. Still direct on frame
T900????🤩🤩🤩
i hope they will make it just few cm lower seat
Bob if it's not broke don't fix it! Cheers
Plenty of off road Power but 10 more Horse Wouldn't hurt ,The Stock seat needs to be Wider like a 78 DT 400 much more comfortable especially for the Street!
Personally i wouldn't change anything to the current version. As someone already said,if it ain't broken don't fix it.
I hope its not more tech unless they are finally giving it cruise control! it needs to lose weight and keep it lower. Lets see a TI crank and Conrods instead and the option of an ALU rear subframe.
The adv world knows very well that simplicity and lightweight are what matter, they are more important and are appreciated. 72HP is more than enough on both road and off-road. While competition marketing is flashing RBW and other electronics those add unnecessary risks to having my bike stranded in the middle of nowhere.
Most dependable of all competitors. I feel like I won Dakar every time I ride mine. It isn't broken. A little styling new linkage rad may be bigger not much
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
Guess what. Bike doesn't have to be obsolete POS to be reliable.Africa twin as best example. You can like simplicity but it's not advantage, it's very cheeky cost cutting.
Drop the seat height and l would buy one!
I'm too old now for this bike but it looks good.
Total Speculation thanks to a partial cover over all of the changes. I am fine with no Electronics.. If they want more power and lots of Electroncis simply produce a bike with the CP3 in it . They need a True Wide Ratio Gear Box .. and Please Copy KTM with a very low center of Gravity gas tank.
@chrishart8548
2 ай бұрын
You can't have a wide ratio gearbox on a bike with a narrow band of power. That's why all powerful vehicles have a close ratio gearbox.
@mikeskidmore6754
2 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 What on Earth are you talking about? The CP2 engine has a good wide Power band. The gearing it has in My FZ-07 the biggest problem is that there is very little difference between 5th and 6th gear.. 6th gear needs to be taller for high speed cruising and slighter better MPG and less engine wear.. In a T-700 they simply lower all the MT-07 gearing buy using a larger rear sprocket. Which kills your highway cruising and still leavers you with a first gear too tall for Trail riding ect.. Lower the gearing with the sprockets plus use a lower first gear and a taller 6th gear for Highway cruising at the minimum . As a matter of a fact the CP-2 motor has enough torque to shift from 3rd to fifth or second to fourth gear with out bogging it down much .
@chrishart8548
2 ай бұрын
@@mikeskidmore6754 I think I heard triumph gave the tiger 900 a lower 1st gear and a tall 6th gear not sure how true that is. I see what you mean though. I think someone who never takes the T7 off road would be happier running mt-07 gearing.
@mikeskidmore6754
2 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 I know the ratios that my 2016 FZ-07 runs they are in the owners manual. The T-700 runs the same gear rations. Between having much more horse power .. the much lower gas tank .. and Possibly a wide ration Transmission .. I might buy a Husky 901 instead. Back the good ole days the Brochures always listed gear ratios. The Yamaha YZ-450 and WR-450 have close and wide Ration Transmissions. Back in the 1970's Husqvarna's were either WR or CR models with wide ratio or close ratio transmission. I always went one tooth bigger front sprocket on my dirt bikes for Trail riding ..
To me this looks just like a World raid. They probably update the headlight (like with the dash), new styling for the fairings. Could be 2025 model. Doubt that this is the new Tenere with different technique „under the hood“.
Gimme tubeless wheels and maybe a revised subframe. Forget the inevitable extra electronics.
hopefully some form of variable valve timing, bored it out a bit, slightly bumped compression
It’s quite hard to beat the WR as less is more
The last thing they need to do is increase engine power. That would likely reduce the longevity of the engine, one of its biggest strengths.
We need a reliable 890R and life is completed bike wise.
exhaust still an issue
It has plenty of HP & Tq already. If it ends up having cruise control... I'm in.
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
Cruise control? 😂 They still live in 80'. They probably very proud they have abs and injection in 2024 😂
Unless they make the T7 ride by wire and tubeless, I will not buy another one. If they add those two things I’ll get one immediately!
Needed a upgrade!
T7s stacking up at my local dealer.
A big part of the appeal of the tenere is the simplicity of it. Drenching it in tech would ruin it and it would just disapear into the crowd of other bikes that have been left to long in the electronics department.
Bold New Graphics
I have cruse control on my ktm390. Yamaha needs to get off their bottom.
@Angry-Lynx
2 ай бұрын
Why would they If they make billions with minimal effort and rnd. Just keep making generic, run of the mill bland bikes like honda and keep counting money. Pretty much the whole economy of 2024. Corporations getting greedier and richer, and more bold, less effort and quality, more cost cutting, while people getting poorer and more screwed over
Its time for a new cp2 and new tecnology
Prepare for a 15k$ Tenere !