With this announced, i hope Yamaha finally steps up and reveals the R9. They both are in the same power range and would end up competing against eachother.

@avalanx

Ай бұрын

That would be amazing!

@chasebelcher7932

Ай бұрын

What? Mt09, that would be the engine that's used at 117bhp. The rc8, back in yonder years had 150+ lol the r9 wouldn't even be in the same class

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

I do hope Yamaha increases the "spice" a great deal on their excellent CP3 engine for the R9. They may not, but I hope they do. They can reduce the torque and shove the power toward the top with cams, valves, compression. It would cost more to de-stroke and increase bore (entirely new upper engine required). Presumably also a slight increase in throttle body bore diameter would help it breath, along with a higher volume airbox. Considering what MV Agusta achieve with their 800cc engine (over 140 hp crank), Yamaha should be able to achieve similar with 890cc......if they want to. Cue all the crying and moaning people if it comes out with the same tuning as the MT.

@chasebelcher7932

Ай бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocket take examples with the r7 and mt07. Both are out classed and dinosaurs compared. Wouldn't hold much luck

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

@@chasebelcher7932 Interesting. Those "dinosaurs" win podiums at MotoAmerica with the likes of RS660.

Now I see why the Duke 990 headlight doesn’t look finished. They’re saving the material to put it into the 990 RC R 👀

need RC1390 with 200+hp that competes with other hyper/superbikes.

@nulla9601

Ай бұрын

Would be amazing but it's a much smaller market. The 990 was the right choice, especially to compete with the upcoming Yamaha R9 which will most likely be a succes (the MT-09 is a very popular bike for a good reason) and because there are not many competitors in that segment.

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

It wouldn't compete with other superbikes. With all the aftermarket de-restriction help in today's tuner companies, the ZX-10R and such are easily over 190 wheel HP and weigh low 400 pounds. That's a very difficult task for a Vtwin to compete with. You can only make a twin cylinder bore so large before it starts affecting things like valve size, time for combustion to fill the cylinder and push down the piston, before stroke completes, etc. Smaller cylinders (and more of them) are more efficient at using combustion to create power, especially at high RPM. You can always just increase torque to ridiculous amounts and keep the power moderate, but good luck figuring out how to put all that twist to the ground efficiently.

@alexperedaxd

Ай бұрын

​@@exothermal.sprocketDucati has done It, so o choose to believe that KTM can

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

@@alexperedaxd What has Ducati done with 947cc?

@pine207

Ай бұрын

No you don't 😂 the r1 and other 1000cc sport bikes arnt selling

103 Nm/75.97 lbft @ 10,500 revs would give 151.8 hp ?? I believe the 10,500 rpm is peak power, but peak torque is a couple of thousand revs lower . If peak power of 128hp is at 10500 revs, torque will be 64 lbft at that point - hp = torque in lbft x rpm ÷ 5252. Sounds like a good bike, hopefully ktm won't make you pay extra for countless things after the 'demonstration period' !

@votenxd1

Ай бұрын

the bike will have 129 hp

Great looking bike as always from KTM but the more I check out modern machines the more I mourn the passing of two strokes? Your uploads always brighten up my day…🙂‍↔️

Hopefully with this we'll finally see the R9. Especially since it's supposed to replace the R6 in Superbike.

In 2013 I had a KTM RC8R, sold it in 2016 and to this day I regret selling it. Excited to see what comes out of this.

Dude you have the best job in the world 🙌🏼

ngl if they do make a redbull tech 3 gas gas livery version they can take my money

Love this bike, will let others test the reliability and dealer experience before I dive in. Also want to see what Yamaha and Triumph have to offer!!

If they wanna go after the panigale V2's blood, shouldnt it have around 150 BHP...🤔🤔🤔🤔

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

I don't think they wish to compete in the 750cc four, high 600cc four, or MV Agusta F3 category of track bikes (where the Ducati V2 is currently running, albeit power restricted). They don't have enough power to compete in the 1000cc superbike class either. Seems it's in the sort of open class where a Yamaha R9 would fit, where the current Ducati Supersport (937cc) is. So much was defined by 600 vs 1000 years ago and those lines are falling apart. There's a sort of in-between range now, less than the 195 hp superbike and more than the 120 hp 600 class.

@h0ij0i

Ай бұрын

the 990 RC R will compete in the WorldSSP class. There are already different manufacturers with different engines. Kawasaki & Yamaha with 4 cylinder and 600ccm, MV Agusta and Triumph with 3 cylinder and 800/765ccm and the Panigale V2 with 955ccm. Overpowered bikes like the V2 are restricted so all manufacturers have pretty much the same power.

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

@@h0ij0i In the MotoAmerica races, the V2 is out front nearly every single race. I don't think the torque spread is fair to be honest, even if they have restricted it to be equivalent horsepower to weight.

@imamfn

26 күн бұрын

Exactly. Outclassed by Ducati once again 😂

@exothermal.sprocket

26 күн бұрын

@@imamfn Once again what?

Looks super sharp and tasty, feel this 800 to 900 cc segments is really peaking, maybe this is the time for yamaha to bring its r9 and ducati to make a 958 mono sports bike.

This will be the proper track weapon you know "Ready to Race" and all that😃😂😂

Honestly I think the power figures for a 990cc are bit poor..

@dbrr558

27 күн бұрын

Yeah the V2 out classes it in power with a 959… depends on pricing I suppose. If its $15-16k+ just get a panigale V2. If its $14kish I think its priced right.

@imamfn

26 күн бұрын

​@@dbrr558 so, outclassed by Ducati once again after the RC8R? 😂

I hope this bike is mass produced and not just for racing homologues

The winglets are the bikes best feature 💪🏽 Visually anyway

my next bike lesgoooo

Nice one Bob. For me, just for the streets (as I already have two track prepared bikes), my money will still go to the GP offering from Yamaha as it has real world road capabilities without having a need to keep it up in the power band.

Being a road-going legal homologated version, the 990 RC R should also reflect the more reasonable price category compared to the track-only proprietary low-volume high return-on-investment stuff KTM has put out. But also since KTM is a tad shameless in their pricing versus the competition, it's going to be in the Ducati price range, more or less. The theoretical Yamaha R9 would cost less, as Yamaha have largely recovered their investment and tooling costs in the MT-09 class with the high sales popularity and can move a lot of those benefits straight over to the R9 version.

Anyone know where I can get that camouflage wrap on the bike in the thumbnail?

@motojc

Ай бұрын

paint your bike white, buy some black take and go at it.

“….with dealer support…” Having owned a couple of KTM’s that were complete “problem children”, the key is having a dealer who will will work with the importer to resolve any problems, otherwise you’re screwed 🤨!

@dennis.lc8407

Ай бұрын

Exactly. A dealer network doesn’t mean anything if the support that you get is total rubbish.

@BishBosh2010

29 күн бұрын

I don't beleive KTM's issues are the dealers. My local (JD Racing in Saltash) are great (possibly as an exception). My issues lies with KTM UK who are belligerent and hide behind crap warranties offering nothing beyond for some common KTM design issues where bikes fail.

Cant wait to see next year with the Yamaha and KTM sport bikes. They can''t go to crazy on the prices because of the Panigale V2. Also I think and hope Triumph will realize they have to make some real sport bike soon because the Daytona thing bring nothing to the table with bikes like Aprilia RS660 as competition. Missed chance for Triumph, should of go with the 765 engine.

will they be able to compete in WSBK with the KTM 990 RC-R ?

@guy8806

29 күн бұрын

supersport probably, to compete with the panigale v2 and maaaaybe the r9

I hope they make one in black, and not the horrible headlights the rc 390 has

Any idea when?

@guy8806

29 күн бұрын

early 2025 is when they'll unveil the rc r

why not take the .... next step and build something for WSBK?

@guy8806

29 күн бұрын

market demand perhaps

@theant9821

28 күн бұрын

because no one wants to buy it

Those wings need to be bigger to look right.

🎉

🎉😊

if it is street legal, i will buy it

@deeehuuund

Ай бұрын

It is! The street legal version will be presented on 5th of Fabruary in 2025.

Finally KTM make a motorcycle that isn't completely fugly.

14k and it's my next bike. Any more than that, it will be the Aprillia RS660 or Yamaha R9. And I do hope those silly winglets can be taken off

Somehow the mt-09 from 2023 costs 142,000 pesos and the 2024 costs 299,999 , like what ??? How is that possible i wanted to buy but its to epensive i live in mexico btw

Not another parallel twin…..

Still prefer my RC8 😁

Will they be updating the outrageously outdated rc 390

@abymathew295

Ай бұрын

They need a parallel twin engine so badly...

@BryCity

Ай бұрын

@@abymathew295 I think the 690 single that Kramer offers in their EVO 2's would be an easier change to make - RC 690 sounds nice.

@motojc

Ай бұрын

it's only been out for 2 years. although, the engine I really do not like. And I'm stuck with it.

@Samrat74737

Ай бұрын

I am hoping new look of that bike

Eh 103Nm @ 10500rpm = 153hp

Wait.. what??? Track edition??? Is it not street legal??

@guy8806

29 күн бұрын

there'll be an rc r track edition, but the rc r is street legal

meh, another budget bike dressed up as a premium bike... why do I say budget bike? well budget bike is a stupid to call an expensive bike, but what is so budget with this is that it is a inline twin, ie cheaper to manufacture than a v-twin engine. that is why, and KTM said in their press video that it was new from the the ground up compared to 990 duke, but it has the same frame, swingarm and engine, even the subframe looks very similar.. Nah... I want a proper new bike not another version of the same one we just got.

@verlinswarey507

Ай бұрын

Why? Would you buy one then?

@Pillokun

Ай бұрын

@@verlinswarey507 I would probably buy one if there was something that tickled my dingle berry so to speak. well it depends on pricing. Right now I am good with older bikes that I and my friends strip and make my own parts for. many of our trackday bikes would spank this bike silly for half the price.

The winglet trend can not die fast enough.

@mark675

Ай бұрын

Well you only have an sv650 so that doesnt need any 😂

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

@@mark675 What else does the marketing-drunk public NEED to be able to ride a sporty motorcycle?

@mark675

Ай бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocket you wanna try having some fun for a change and stop being so negative

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

@@mark675 Answer my question.

@wwfww

Ай бұрын

100% those stupid things are basically useless and ruin the lines

990 cc and only 120ps. ..any old gsxr750 will flog it

@phatnum17

Ай бұрын

990CC out of a twin btw..and will it? It’ll be massively lighter and the standard Duke 990 has like 128hp so this RC version will likely be closer to 140hp

@grim9709

12 күн бұрын

You probably ride in sandals

Why can’t ktm make a 4-cylinder super bike?

@guy8806

29 күн бұрын

i dont think it's within their interest... yet

Shame ktm seem good at designing concepts but always hit the ugly button on anything they actually release, the original RC8 remains their best effort to date.

Droopy mustache 😂😂😂😂

KTM should rather try to build a super reliable model instead.

15k?! lol, this bike is going up up and away when it comes to price. Think it will be more competing with the V4-R and the likes..

So basically R9 competitor, But with bad reliability. 😂

MM93

Only 123 hp to participate in WSBK is very low. Others have more than 200 hp

@wheelmindedivan6182

Ай бұрын

It won’t participate in WSBK. This and the R9 will participate in World Supersport (WSSP), the class which is currently mostly 600’s. The stock horsepower figures of all bikes in that class are around 120-130 aside from the V2 Panigales.

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

Power-adjusted GSX-R750 and Ducati V2 are running in this class, with open powered 600 supersports (including Kawasaki 636). This is not the same class as 195 HP superbikes.

those winglets remind me of 2005 when every poor kid would add a cheap spoiler to his dads econobox after playing too much nfs:underground 2, so tasteless and tacky

Not an impressive bike to slow and engin not so powerful

No bike with two parallel cylinders can call itself a sport, much less a “super sport” bike. 😒

@exothermal.sprocket

Ай бұрын

An inline-4 makes all the difference though, when you weld two parallel twins side by side. 🙄

@theant9821

28 күн бұрын

why not? if a v twin can do it? the growl of a twin sounds better than most screaming 4s anyway