NEW 2018 BMW M5: Still A Sideways, Rubber Burning Beast - Carfection

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There's an all new BMW M5 in town, we took it through its paces on road and track.
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  • @Neawoulf
    @Neawoulf6 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful little film. Visuals, driving, audio, commentary ... it's all carfect :)

  • @javedanali3289

    @javedanali3289

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bro even the main REVIEW is also 🔥💯❤️

  • @heldergutierrez9089
    @heldergutierrez90896 жыл бұрын

    After watching back to back reviews of the M5, I must say, well done Mr Catchpole and Carfection team. You just make it interesting and to the point, whatever point that may be. Please do continue my little auto friends

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Hélder. Much appreciated.

  • @nepaleseman1010

    @nepaleseman1010

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree if Mr Catchpole and his team reviewed anything, it would be well made and interesting from every angle. I love the Carfection reviews.

  • @stubones
    @stubones6 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why people bother complaining about the M5 getting AWD, it just makes a massive amount of sense given the power and torque figures and the fact it's a daily driver. Audi, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari with the FF/GTC4 Lusso and even Lamborghini use AWD. Complaining about it is just false hairy chested machismo, which on the road can be dangerous. We've all seen the F10 get destroyed off the line by lesser models like the RS3 or RS5, let alone a full blown RS6 Performance. This is a fantastic car, BMW customers with the money will buy it, Merc customers with the money will buy the e63S. I don't think either car is going to poach many from the other. I'm sure there are also plenty of buyers who've been waiting for the M5 so they can make an informed choice of which car to buy. Quite frankly I'd be happy with either, but then I can't afford either car so my opinion is irrelevant to Merc and BMW. These companies are in the business of making money so they aim to please their customers, not internet armchair "experts" who'll never even sit in one of the cars, let own own one. Great video carfection :-)

  • @suryamsharma9494

    @suryamsharma9494

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well said!

  • @LegendInThaMakin

    @LegendInThaMakin

    6 жыл бұрын

    Who cares about off the line, I've seen f10 m5s spank supercars on a roll. So easy to get 700hp+ by tuning them. I'm not complaining about the awd, it's nice and all, rwd sports cars have always been so much more fun & raw. Nothing to do with being macho, that's just how it is. Awd bores me to death.

  • @stefanfreestylez

    @stefanfreestylez

    6 жыл бұрын

    LegendInThaMakin only problem i have with the car is its conplexity more parts to replace if/when something goes wrong 3x the price of a used f10 for nearly the same car except for awd...imo not worth it

  • @stefanfreestylez

    @stefanfreestylez

    6 жыл бұрын

    Off the line ya m5 can have traction issues but look at 1/4mile times rs6 and m5 set theyre pre close and from a roll(real world) the audi has no chance This use to be audi fanboys main arguement with bmw and benz now they literly have nothing on them

  • @Alumnikiid

    @Alumnikiid

    6 жыл бұрын

    True, all the haters should drive a hellcat at see how 707hp feels just going to the rear.. no grip at all

  • @landonchan7429
    @landonchan74295 жыл бұрын

    these car reviews are like beautiful car short films. They r absolutely incredible. This channel is grossly underrated....

  • @thedownshiftchannel
    @thedownshiftchannel6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always! The new M5 seems to have the best of both worlds it will be insane with the tubing options that will become available!

  • @theflanman420420

    @theflanman420420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Damn you can go tubing in the new m5 too? Is there anything BMW haven't thought of ?

  • @thedownshiftchannel

    @thedownshiftchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    theflanman86 they should think about giving me a free one

  • @Kingloui10
    @Kingloui106 жыл бұрын

    Out of all the new reviews for the M5. This one is by far the best. Cinematic quality!

  • @TheVeryteddy
    @TheVeryteddy6 жыл бұрын

    compliments Mr Catchpole always fantastic video quality

  • @jezzza4873
    @jezzza48736 жыл бұрын

    I watched all reviews of the F90 and this is my one favorite... great job !

  • @TheBucketOfTruth
    @TheBucketOfTruth6 жыл бұрын

    Watching this channel almost religiously now with Henry on board.

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @ChoPi-Eww
    @ChoPi-Eww6 жыл бұрын

    I like that you focused on what we really care about: the driving experience.

  • @kandarpvyas4592
    @kandarpvyas45926 жыл бұрын

    What a elegant and detailed video.

  • @CarswithB
    @CarswithB6 жыл бұрын

    Great video and the new M5 looks great! Also I am impressed of its sounds compares to the previous one

  • @DanielSadjadian

    @DanielSadjadian

    6 жыл бұрын

    Especially if you get it with the titanium exhaust option, it sounds great!

  • @Gautam454
    @Gautam4546 жыл бұрын

    Love the M5! That color is stunning.

  • @infidel900rr
    @infidel900rr6 жыл бұрын

    GREAT HOST! He's one of the best. Thanks for the video!

  • @Kelveron
    @Kelveron6 жыл бұрын

    Really good review, particularly from a drivability point of view. Good job Mr C.

  • @d0718
    @d07186 жыл бұрын

    That colour is pure sex

  • @bobbybass7972

    @bobbybass7972

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think it might be infected, if thats your idea of a pure sex color

  • @09juliancarr
    @09juliancarr6 жыл бұрын

    Great work as always Henry - Look forward to these each week

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Julian.

  • @fahadnadir2403
    @fahadnadir24036 жыл бұрын

    Quality content as always 👌🔥🔥

  • @mrmarrow8918
    @mrmarrow89186 жыл бұрын

    God, this a fab review! Keep them coming....

  • @lakmalantony8505
    @lakmalantony85056 жыл бұрын

    Catchpole, solid review sir

  • @SouthparkFan3399
    @SouthparkFan33996 жыл бұрын

    Love it! Can't wait for a comparison between the new M5 and the new E63!

  • @tadassimasevicius9641

    @tadassimasevicius9641

    6 жыл бұрын

    Christian Peter and rs6

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    Christian Peter it kills the E63.

  • @omarcarnegie7614

    @omarcarnegie7614

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sam Toure butt shit the e 63s have more torque the mph gauge arise faster than the BMW M5

  • @DoctaM3
    @DoctaM36 жыл бұрын

    Awesome review Henry. Overall reviews are pretty positive but I wanted to hear your take. I am now convinced. Euro delivery here we come!

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @JesusIsGod222
    @JesusIsGod2226 жыл бұрын

    this guy puts out good reviews. !!

  • @suprememaxpayne
    @suprememaxpayne6 жыл бұрын

    Blue and white, always a great combo on BMs

  • @Tony11442
    @Tony114426 жыл бұрын

    As usual a wonderful car, even more so because u can drive it rwd as well, just perfect.

  • @guy5140
    @guy51406 жыл бұрын

    That paint job though!

  • @zaidtareen3982
    @zaidtareen39826 жыл бұрын

    Great but informative review too.

  • @maxjtj31
    @maxjtj316 жыл бұрын

    great video

  • @nicenow25
    @nicenow255 жыл бұрын

    I haven't driven the f10. But I hate it when journalists say the previous car was unsatisfactory when comparing to the new one. But refuse to say this when that car is currently out. I have never heard of a review when the f10 was current that it didn't have the urgency in the throttle. Smh but what can I do but listen, watch and continue with life.

  • @gabrielflores1149
    @gabrielflores11496 жыл бұрын

    Cool vid.

  • @DrTropics
    @DrTropics5 жыл бұрын

    Incredible car. What a beast!

  • @ericsmith506
    @ericsmith5066 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Wolverine :)

  • @InteriorDesignAnderson
    @InteriorDesignAnderson6 жыл бұрын

    This is gorgeous

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep616 жыл бұрын

    Great Video Review. The best Super Saloon on sale

  • @KJ_XCV
    @KJ_XCV6 жыл бұрын

    I was just there for Nostalgic purposes. I went there to see the track since MotoGP stopped going there and I saw a BMW pounding round. Don't know if it was you but it was such a lovely moment for me.

  • @monkylondon
    @monkylondon6 жыл бұрын

    Mr Catchpole loves the duggits 🙊

  • @cadenguyen463

    @cadenguyen463

    4 жыл бұрын

    whats a duggit?

  • @henzo7087
    @henzo70876 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful ///M5

  • @TheJoeMB
    @TheJoeMB6 жыл бұрын

    I'd have this over the new (very tempting E63). Beneath all the systems, it seems the car has a wonderful balance to it, and it brings more enjoyment more of the time unlike the last M5.New E63 looks great (from the front) and sounds awesome, but i suspect is a little one dimensional. can't wait for a twin test.

  • @asderdsaer
    @asderdsaer6 жыл бұрын

    Great car !

  • @wetnez1
    @wetnez16 жыл бұрын

    Well, carfection catchpole.

  • @markom90
    @markom906 жыл бұрын

    BMW M5 💗💗💗

  • @Abdulahadvlo
    @Abdulahadvlo2 жыл бұрын

    Car 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 you are the most Kindly

  • @f.f.thegentlemandriver
    @f.f.thegentlemandriver6 жыл бұрын

    Masterpiece

  • @rotorblade9508
    @rotorblade9508 Жыл бұрын

    a budget build could be a stripped down interior f10 with the smaller b48 engine. if it can be brought down to 1300-1200kg it should behave pretty good on the track considering the more advanced suspension compared to 3 series

  • @johnfranson1409
    @johnfranson14096 жыл бұрын

    What blue is that? Looks great!

  • @zainw24
    @zainw246 жыл бұрын

    So gorgeous. Much better looking than E63. But the merc's interior is another level.

  • @sunilsolanki
    @sunilsolanki6 жыл бұрын

    Love Catchpole and his reviews. Is he still with Evo?

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm writing the occasional feature for evo, but I'm freelance now (mostly working for Carfection)

  • @swaganomiks
    @swaganomiks6 жыл бұрын

    Love Harry

  • @zakelwe
    @zakelwe6 жыл бұрын

    Best review of this car. Wish you were still at Evo though and Evo was as it was when first started with Harry in charge. Jethro at MT waisted on those yanks too.... sob.

  • @to250582
    @to2505825 жыл бұрын

    Portugal!

  • @kunalmore5212
    @kunalmore52126 жыл бұрын

    When is the comparison coming?

  • @rajivkishore
    @rajivkishore6 жыл бұрын

    Wolverine on XCAR?? Niceeee

  • @tadassimasevicius9641
    @tadassimasevicius96416 жыл бұрын

    Please do drag race m5 vs current rs6

  • @siamparagon9250
    @siamparagon92506 жыл бұрын

    BMW for sheer drive. E63 for that monster sound

  • @LamboPlays
    @LamboPlays6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds surprisingly good. I'd take this over the E63

  • @tadassimasevicius9641

    @tadassimasevicius9641

    6 жыл бұрын

    LamboPlays sounds lame, reall sound has rs6

  • @mrmorrisniceguy987
    @mrmorrisniceguy9876 жыл бұрын

    Wow really looking forward to the head to head although I think that the M5 will win … 😄

  • @93remix
    @93remix6 жыл бұрын

    TEAM BMW M5 ALL DAY... i'm glad they figured they needed a little FWD bias to make it launch properly. and the EXHAUST NOTE outside of the cabin sounds WAAAAAAY better than AUDI, BENZ, and PORSCHE PANAMERA

  • @sufyan5884

    @sufyan5884

    6 жыл бұрын

    93remix better than a Benz? What drugs are you on

  • @93remix

    @93remix

    6 жыл бұрын

    YES I SAID IT... SO WHAT?!! out of all these vids, the new M5 exhaust sounds better. anywho, all these GERMAN MARQUES are truly a driver's opinion of what they deem to be the BEST and I HAPPEN TO FEEL THAT BMW IS THE BEST

  • @shubhjena8876
    @shubhjena88764 жыл бұрын

    Do a twin test with the E63s and the M5 competition

  • @mendocino54
    @mendocino546 жыл бұрын

    Are you wearing your speedmaster on your right wrist just so that we can see it ? Nice one!

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ha! Actually I always wear my watch on my right wrist (despite being right handed - no idea why, just always have)

  • @LowLandchannel
    @LowLandchannel6 жыл бұрын

    Carfection in Portugal 🙂 Quantos Portugueses aqui?

  • @user-xk7pk7wq1x
    @user-xk7pk7wq1x6 жыл бұрын

    Better review than the one shmee submitted.

  • @TheJacobshapiro
    @TheJacobshapiro6 жыл бұрын

    Still sad they had to go AWD. Do simplicity and dynamics count for anything in these sorts of cars anymore?

  • @arendrossouw3784
    @arendrossouw37846 жыл бұрын

    Lovely video, cinema quality. Does alex still work for you guys?

  • @bugsy791

    @bugsy791

    6 жыл бұрын

    i dont think so, i saw him another channel....cant remember which one tho

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Arend. Alex decided to move to another channel.

  • @arendrossouw3784

    @arendrossouw3784

    6 жыл бұрын

    Henry Catchpole what channel if I may ask?

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Motor1

  • @arendrossouw3784

    @arendrossouw3784

    6 жыл бұрын

    Henry Catchpole thanks

  • @IcelanderUSer
    @IcelanderUSer6 жыл бұрын

    Wow. If that thing had shitty tires it would drive like a seventies Lincoln. The body roll is nuts.

  • @justinmahabir3931
    @justinmahabir39316 жыл бұрын

    Why doesn't the round headed, bald guy make videos anymore. He's the reason I fell in love with this channel...

  • @AlMurtaqa

    @AlMurtaqa

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justin Mahabir He was snatched by MOTOR1UK.

  • @justinmahabir3931

    @justinmahabir3931

    6 жыл бұрын

    I thought this was HIS show??

  • @JC-qf1jd
    @JC-qf1jd6 жыл бұрын

    The M5 is totally out of my budget, however I am looking t getting an M4 Comp. But the interior in the M5 is just awesome, and those seats! Wow. Im put off that bmw can't improve their interiors better for class leading M4 too?!?!?!

  • @Christian-fg3we
    @Christian-fg3we6 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love the new M5, but its not bat shit crazy like the E60 was.

  • @PeakTorque
    @PeakTorque6 жыл бұрын

    What Inov8 shoes Henry? I need to drive in them!

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ha! They are F-Lite 235s (I think there is newer V2 now). The Inov-8 Bare XFs are pretty good too if you want a thinner sole for smaller pedal boxes.

  • @JosePericao
    @JosePericao6 жыл бұрын

    The place is Guincho, Cascais... but yes I get it, it sounds funny when you try to pronounce it.

  • @Drummin003
    @Drummin0036 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure the front tires are doing all that much when using launch control. Did anyone else see how much the back end squatted when he launched it? The front tires almost came off the ground. To be quicker off the line, it's going to need slightly stiffer rear springs to mitigate some of the squat and to keep the front end from lifting and taking the weight/traction off the front wheels.

  • @rockervdrive
    @rockervdrive6 жыл бұрын

    All AWD systems should be modeled after this from now on!

  • @jamie3499

    @jamie3499

    6 жыл бұрын

    rockervdrive you mean all AWD systems should be modelled off the E63, in theory this is modelled off that.

  • @rockervdrive

    @rockervdrive

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh, you're right. Mercedes did it first.

  • @dennischeruiyot5352
    @dennischeruiyot53526 жыл бұрын

    why do all car companies launch their cars in portugal? great video as always Henry

  • @Pein010798

    @Pein010798

    6 жыл бұрын

    dennis cheruiyot because it's a beautiful place ;)

  • @LamboPlays

    @LamboPlays

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well they're not going to show off 200mph supercars in London are they

  • @kewl10mac

    @kewl10mac

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not only is it really pretty, and there are quite a few decent racetracks, but its probably very very cheap too due to their economy.

  • @vagabundo6409

    @vagabundo6409

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good tracks, great natural views, great sunny weather even in the winter time so cars look good. And better prices for bigger launch events.

  • @stubones

    @stubones

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well they could launch them in Germany where they're made and they have areas of derestricted autobahn, which is what these cars are primarily made for. I suppose, apart from Portugal the only other place in the world to launch a new car is a huge city in the UK? SMH LOL, etc.

  • @JP-ug1xr
    @JP-ug1xr6 жыл бұрын

    Is it still a flat plane v8? Almost sounds like an e39. Really diggin the noise and extra gription. Great Vid Carfection.

  • @albin4277

    @albin4277

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justin Price it is the same engine that is used in the f10 30jahre 600hp.

  • @JP-ug1xr

    @JP-ug1xr

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah he did say that lol. Damn good sound for flat plane.

  • @timoclimbs

    @timoclimbs

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not a flat plane crank you idiot lol, it would sound completely different if it was more like a ferrari

  • @stefanfreestylez

    @stefanfreestylez

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its literlly the same engine from f10 m5,m6 and x5/6m lol

  • @JP-ug1xr

    @JP-ug1xr

    6 жыл бұрын

    Okie dokie diddly oh, I'm an idiot. After doing my homework I see why the m5,6 ect Sounds flat plane ish. Glad they re-worked the exhaust on this gen.

  • @Braeserker
    @Braeserker6 жыл бұрын

    “Harry Potter reviews the new F90 M5”

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    After all that time in a Ford Anglia I felt I was ideally placed to put a 592bhp M5 to the test.

  • @Nodstar73
    @Nodstar736 жыл бұрын

    Does that not make it the BMW MX5?

  • @takeitforadrive
    @takeitforadrive4 жыл бұрын

    Last week I took the Porsche 993 for a spin, I wonder what you guys think of my review?

  • @neverendingmods
    @neverendingmods6 жыл бұрын

    Barcolounger front seats!

  • @Jack-qn4vt
    @Jack-qn4vt6 жыл бұрын

    looks like a 7 series, all manufacterers need to put in a limit to increasing size of a number of their models

  • @prakharmathur93
    @prakharmathur936 жыл бұрын

    I think you should test these cars on Indian roads to test them on bumpy roads.

  • @untitled795
    @untitled7956 жыл бұрын

    Give us the Moby looking dude back come on

  • @iliutaovidiu9815
    @iliutaovidiu98156 жыл бұрын

    Volkswagen has a nice DSG ya know.

  • @dxknudsen
    @dxknudsen6 жыл бұрын

    your in Cascais....

  • @michaelmcdonald9847
    @michaelmcdonald98476 жыл бұрын

    These advanced new awd systems that amg and m are engineering are making Quattro completely obsolete

  • @user-oj8ld9rd9r
    @user-oj8ld9rd9rАй бұрын

    ❤M5❤F90❤🤗😍👿👍👌🤝👉🔊👌👍

  • @brilliantradience
    @brilliantradience6 жыл бұрын

    The V10 got 9mpg.

  • @diopsidem5
    @diopsidem56 жыл бұрын

    Nissan GTR + German Styling + 2 doors = F90 M5

  • @mattkh3352
    @mattkh33526 жыл бұрын

    Henry, for sake of god, can you please add these videos to your channel ? i don't wanna miss them.

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, will do!

  • @HenryCatchpole

    @HenryCatchpole

    6 жыл бұрын

    Done

  • @mattkh3352

    @mattkh3352

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot !

  • @ELGlueckert
    @ELGlueckert6 жыл бұрын

    It's a shame they got rid of the DCT for a 8 speed conventional "sport" automatic

  • @thefridgeman
    @thefridgeman6 жыл бұрын

    BMW builds now buses. Wait until the new 8 Series gets launched. Hear that they want to leave WEC with the M8 GTE and join the Truck GP Championship.

  • @thormcgee968
    @thormcgee9686 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a wonderful car, but it better be traded in every 3 years to avoid nightmare repair bills.

  • @kevindavis5966
    @kevindavis59666 жыл бұрын

    Except the F10 didn't take 4.4 seconds to reach 60 mph. It was more like 3.7 seconds. So, still an improvement, but not a full second. Is the engine in the F90 underrated like the F10 was, or are they finally just quoting the actual power of the same S63 engine? 0.3-0.5 seconds sounds realistic to what AWD would allow an F10.

  • @RandomGenera7ed
    @RandomGenera7ed6 жыл бұрын

    An M5 with X drive?? MX-5 ?? 🤔🤔

  • @Fiwek23452

    @Fiwek23452

    6 жыл бұрын

    RandyG7 XM5 xD

  • @DaveBoxBG
    @DaveBoxBG6 жыл бұрын

    why 8 speed automatic and not dual clutch again???

  • @jamie3499

    @jamie3499

    6 жыл бұрын

    jawbreaker according to BMW it matched better with the AWD system. Also the minute increases in the speed it takes to shift was not worth the trade off of less smooth shifts at low speeds

  • @eport6169

    @eport6169

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's bullshit and bean counters marketing excuse. The real reason is that they already had the 8 speed auto that would work with this engine and awd from the x5m. They would need to develop a new DCT that would work with the AWD and they were to cheap to do so. There is a reason why the panamera turbo S has an 8 speed DCT its because Porsche refused to compromise. The only thing an auto is better at is towing and comfort when it comes to a sports car DCT dominates there is no argument its not even close.

  • @jamie3499

    @jamie3499

    6 жыл бұрын

    EzE Yur probably more accurate. I was simply quoting BMW off the top of my head. Never been a fan of the M5 ever since the change from the E60 V1. It just seems so tame and boring and the interior is so outdaded.

  • @marquise9b
    @marquise9b6 жыл бұрын

    Another prize that takes a M5 to a track to try and convince is it's a great everyday sports car. Please, walk another tight rope, this time in launch control and "f" off!

  • @sp3c14l1st
    @sp3c14l1st6 жыл бұрын

    its already clocked 3.1 sec 0-60, factory is 3.4.

  • @neverendingmods
    @neverendingmods6 жыл бұрын

    So much better of a car than the M3/M4 is.

  • @estinoazell1016
    @estinoazell10166 жыл бұрын

    does this M5 rides better than the E63 S ?

  • @jeppewerring

    @jeppewerring

    6 жыл бұрын

    without having driven them I still think I can say yes.

  • @Fiwek23452

    @Fiwek23452

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ðéstino ÃzéLL why you compare AMG to M.. ofc the BMW wins

  • @estinoazell1016

    @estinoazell1016

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I thought the same! I mean seen Autocar,AutoExpress,CarWow and Carfection. None seems to complaint much about the ride.Whelp, so we know it's a tad quicker in the straight line.

  • @eport6169

    @eport6169

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes it does but the reviews have also said that has come at a penalty since now the e63s is the sharper better handling cars. It looks like M and AMG have reversed roles with the M5 being the more comfortable car with more straight line speed and the E63s being the better sounding better handling car.

  • @jeppewerring

    @jeppewerring

    6 жыл бұрын

    EzE Yur he probably ment handling.

  • @2ndlt.reifukai196
    @2ndlt.reifukai1966 жыл бұрын

    Iron fist in a velvet glove.

  • @mcmac9565
    @mcmac95656 жыл бұрын

    Bmw still looks good at going sideways...while the amg looks kinda fidgety

  • @johncreedon1833
    @johncreedon18336 жыл бұрын

    Very disappointing that the dct is gone

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