Dolphins: "Most people stopped eating us cause we're smart." Octopus: "cool story bro...."

They become aggressive and self-harm and eat each other because they are self-aware and this is torture.

@harrietharlow9929

Ай бұрын

We've already seen this with other intensively raised animals, especially with more intelligent mammals such as pigs--but also with chickens, and farmed fish aren't doing well, either.

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

Not self aware... You mistake them for Sentience. But like all animals, plants, humans etc... Lock them in a box. See what happens. Just saying... Designing Humanity was the easy part.

@MyRx777z

25 күн бұрын

Self-conscious is more of an appropriate term for octopus instead of self-aware. But ye, i have a bad feeling about farming octopuses. The fact that they are very intelligent.

@kimberleymarkova3641

23 күн бұрын

They also tend to trust people, this is horrific, monstrous abuse, cruelty,betrayal. People please find pétitions urgently on change and promote boycotts of any and all consumption of these precious créatures.

@harrietharlow9929

23 күн бұрын

@@MyRx777z Indeed they are.

When I watch videos of octopuses that recognize frequent divers, and how they latch on for rides or play games... I realize maybe we shouldn't farm them to eat. They're as smart as dogs, so eating one feels just as taboo to me.

When a female octopus lays eggs she dies after they hatch. She gives her life to make sure nothing eats her babies.

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

And genetically too, that octopus decay after mating... Nature do be like that.

@TheeLynnChase

10 күн бұрын

And it takes them like 8 years or something. They are amazing. And not food.

I'm sorry, but this just seems wrong somehow. They're just way too intelligent to raise them without cruelty.

@GuilhermeSilva-xk1vu

Ай бұрын

Yup

@Corey1873

Ай бұрын

Pigs are also known to be very smart.

@Creticus

Ай бұрын

Yeah, we didn't choose meat animals based on low intelligence. Even chickens can show something that looks suspiciously like grief.

@Gildedmuse

Ай бұрын

​@@CreticusSome people do. I don't really like most seafood or a lot of meats, but even if I did, I don't know if I could eat octopus or pigs.

@reYouMad

Ай бұрын

I agre, they are very intelligent. Let them swim in the ocean. Stop this BS

Ive eaten them before... but stopped after learning about them. Its insane just how smart these things are.

Im not a vegan or an animal rights activist or w/e, hell i've eaten squids and octopus but theres something weirding me out about farming highly intelligent creatures for food consumption. Somehow it feels more "right" to catch them in the wild for some reason lol

@mike-wille

Ай бұрын

Yes exactly, at least they aren't tortured if you catch them in the wild.

@blackstar-genX

Ай бұрын

I understand feeling like that but that would mean most animals humans interact with would be a nono. We may feel horrible about it but if it's useful and food we can't hesitate. It's the rule almost all animals on the planet by really, and we are one of those animals.

@isthatzee

Ай бұрын

@@blackstar-genX totally agree, but i think for me it was the fact that because they're capable of highly complex thought process that made me feel like they suffer more, but on the same vein; just cause cattle and poultry aren't as intelligent does that make them fair game? We definitely have some degree of biases of where we draw the line of what we consume and what we dont and this definitely opened up my eyes to how things are being farmed. Like how am i comfortable with regular farm animals fit for slaughter, yet somehow farming intelligent creatures weirds me out? possibly cause I consider humans as intelligent beings and if another species specifically bred and farmed us. i'd be freaked out by it.

@mike-wille

29 күн бұрын

​​@@blackstar-genX I appreciate your point. We do live by different rules as highly intelligent animals in certain ways though. For many animals, eating or killing each other within their own species is normal. It is also nature's way to die from polio and bacterial infections but we change that. As humans we have the ability to comprehend our own consciousness and to empathize. We almost unilaterally live as societies in "unnatural" ways so to speak. So I think it's ok to also deviate from the "natural dog eat dog" way when it comes to choosing whether to farm highly intelligent animals on a mass scale. I think there's a difference between raising and eating shrimp vs highly intelligent animals with much greater capacity for suffering.

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

The farming method can be into question... But animals are animals. Respect the food and thank the Earth that you still exist. In other words... Humans are not God. Don't try to save all life when your very flesh is not the same as what God originally had in mind. Humans are animals. Not special... The cosmos knew this long ago.

I hate seeing people catch and take them at the pier, one time this dude had 3 in a bucket and I was trying to convince him to put them back, he didn’t. But he turned around for about 1 minute, went to check on them, they all escaped and squeezed through a 1” crack in the pier. I was stoked and cheering for them lol.

@Reddotzebra

23 күн бұрын

As long as they can push their beak through, they can get through any crack.

@InterestingMC

19 күн бұрын

omg lol theyre so smart im happy for them

@ShorelineC

19 күн бұрын

@@InterestingMC it’s sad that such a beautiful creature has such a short lifespan unfortunately 🥲

@InterestingMC

19 күн бұрын

@@ShorelineC yeah it is very sad, they are very complex and interesting creatures but they don't want to live after laying eggs

@BG-gk6jf

3 күн бұрын

I hope you never eat any animal then. So bias, Leave fisherman alone.

What if octopuses have a human farm, and they’re running into the same issues.

@NewEnglandReptile

Ай бұрын

We can wish

@rosemarietolentino3218

20 күн бұрын

Do you feel better now…

If they found a way to extend the life of the octopus that's a scary thought one of the reasons why octopus intelligence hasn't gotten much bigger is because of their short lifespan. If you add more time to learn you increase the capacity for intelligence...

@Fddhjdthnbcfseyhvg

Ай бұрын

Very observant

@Fddhjdthnbcfseyhvg

Ай бұрын

I can see an octopus rolling up next time I call an Uber, talking about he is a KZread star, and ask me if I seen this video

@ToxicAudri

Ай бұрын

This is how we get mind flayers.

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

Kind of... Some trees can live longer than humans. Yet lack true intelligence. While some birds live shorter lives. Yet know better than humans, as far as intelligence (not sentience) goes.

@donmac7780

26 күн бұрын

DO NOT give octopi longer lifespans or make them social! I can think of nothing scarier.

I can fix it. Leave them alone. No I’m not a vegan or animal activist. They’re too intelligent to be held captive, just like elephants.

@TheeLynnChase

10 күн бұрын

same!

@simplekneipe2430

4 күн бұрын

Cows are as smart as a 4-5 year old if not smarter, can WE Farm 1-3 year olds?

@jennifermcmillan9518

4 күн бұрын

@@simplekneipe2430 they’re still nowhere close to the intelligence of an octopus. I’ve lived on a farm. Cows are still very dun duh duh. Don’t get me wrong. All animals have a certain level of intelligence. An octopus is on a whole different level. They can beat you with your own arm and make you think it’s your fault. Yes there’s sarcasm there but it makes my point. Octopusses, Elephants, orcas, etc., exhibit very different capabilities.

@phillip0908

4 күн бұрын

"No I’m not a vegan or animal activist." Would that make your opinion less valuable?

@jennifermcmillan9518

4 күн бұрын

@@phillip0908 no, I just wanted to stop the “you people” comments before it started, lol

I don’t eat them. They are too smart for me to do it. They are too interesting.

@GuilhermeSilva-xk1vu

Ай бұрын

Me too

@frlo7688

Ай бұрын

It's okay, that leaves more for me .

@Project_Gold

Ай бұрын

@@GuilhermeSilva-xk1vu Sorry, but you can't escape cannibal interest this way. You will still be eaten if they catch you like the rest of us.

@Gildedmuse

Ай бұрын

Yeah.... eating Octopus and Pig feels weird. They're so.... cool. They have personalities and intelligence. It's not like chickens. Screw chickens. I eat chicken and yet would be okay with those little monsters going extinct..... .... Probably chickens are okay too.

@mm-hq4qh

Ай бұрын

Any predator is ..

I wish people would stop eating these amazing creatures. We eat enough animals already.

These are sentient and very intelligent creatures. This is not 'farming', it's torture and murder. 'Breeding generations in captivity' is called slavery. This is beyond sad.🥺

@phillip0908

4 күн бұрын

Yea, same as other animal agriculture

The recent popularity of Takoyaki has greatly worsened this issue imo

They also tend to trust people, this is horrific, monstrous abuse, cruelty,betrayal. People please find pétitions urgently on change and promote boycotts of any and all consumption of these precious créatures.

in my opinion eating octopi is very cruel (especially If their alive)

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

Eating an alive animals as food is off putting. Cooking it or eating it raw (not alive) food is much better. All humans will join the worms in the end. I see no difference in the morality when humans are nothing special... ... ... The cosmos explains what I mean.

@cheemslord9917

24 күн бұрын

well i respect that but for my opinion it not

@absolstoryoffiction6615

24 күн бұрын

Cooked or raw (sashimi) is better than alive.

@simplekneipe2430

4 күн бұрын

​@@cheemslord9917So you Just Love the animal cruelty what a nice trait to have

I think octopuses are just wayyy too smart for us to be doing this to them.

arm continues to move because each arm has its own brain and seperate nervous system

@Reddotzebra

23 күн бұрын

Which is another reason I don't exactly want to eat them. The activists may ramble on about the horrors of farms in general, but octopuses have the potential to feel more pain than it's physically possible for any other animal to do.

Imagine that octopuses in the future will develop a plan and destroy humanity using the same methods 😱

@dalhousiekid

Ай бұрын

🎯

@Project_Gold

Ай бұрын

@@dalhousiekid I'll remember this just in case I see a steak hovering in the air or see a cool hidey-hole on the beach.

@SnotRockets55

Ай бұрын

And we'd deserve it, too.

@ThatoneGremlin

27 күн бұрын

​@@SnotRockets55What do you mean? Not all people are evil. That's like saying all dogs bite people, or all sharks try to kill people.

@kimcho773

26 күн бұрын

They already make a documentary about this, the genre is called tentacle hentai

They are fun to play with. Much smarter than cats. I had octopus friends in the south pacific Samoa to be specific.

octopus are too inteligent to be treated as food and typically too high up the food chain to actually be viable

This is horrific!! How can humans do this to another creature? Omg, it's so wrong. We have become the monsters....

Supposedly, a local woman had an octopus which layed eggs and continued to live and thrive after they hatched. I hope buy one from her for my aquarium.

I used to love eating them when I was a kid but when I became aware of their intelligence (late teens) I stopped. Now I try to inform people how eating Octopus is like eating a crow, magpie, cat, dog or dolphin.

@rosemarietolentino3218

20 күн бұрын

The battlefield is in your mind. They taste delicious.

@OathTaker3

17 күн бұрын

@@rosemarietolentino3218 😮‍💨 I know...

@simplekneipe2430

4 күн бұрын

Or pigs and cows, pigs are even smarter than dogs.

Always producing interesting and informative videos Thank You keep up the great work

This channel won't never get old because this channel teaches us some pretty cool things

WATOP as usual makes my day more interesting

"Resulting in a slow, painful death which has been scientifically confirmed." .... Did a scientist freeze an octopus just to watch it die?

Not vegetarian... And i love eating octopus... But how can some people be so easily influenced to the point where they see an animal and think it's a delicacy, just because of marketing? Want octopus? Go catch one yourself lmao There are 100s of other animals that are either, as tasty or far easier to farm... Humans are so smart yet so naive at the same time

They genetically modified these octopus in order to farm them.

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

Lies in the end... ... ... I can almost smell the facade. Because if that company was true, then why only them, a non scientific corporation, who suddenly "broke" the genetic code of octopi??? I do love such a game of deception. Especially when Evil can see through it.

okay, seriously -- with all the different animals and plants we already eat, do people *_REALLY_* have to add octopus to the menu? like, don't we have enough variety as it is? when will enough be enough?

@user-lw1pm8qi1h

Ай бұрын

Octopus is a delicacy in many parts of the world. It's also expensive because of the difficulty in catching them. This is nothing new. I definitely indulge when I can afford it.

@almendriaflorentino

28 күн бұрын

Octopus tastes good but I'd rather they be caught in the wild than be tortured like this in captivity.

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

Amusing... Given the end of Earth outside of human control. Well... Farming is debatable. But all things come an end upon the Red Sun.

@quinnoshaughnessy

26 күн бұрын

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 but until then, should we not strive to do better?

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

@@quinnoshaughnessy Strive, yes... But that's extremely difficulty for Mankind. Strive for what you can. Not for what you cannot. But one day, all of Mankind must try together. More often than not, sadly. But this goes for everything that is. Not just for animals. Respect the food you've found. Treat the animal with respect. Such is a simple life. ... That's old wisdom from my better self compared to today. I can see how far behind Mankind is. But I'm not that person anymore. If the world must be saved, then I'm sure humanity doesn't need me. They can do it because they have to. (I put the World and all who call it home, before myself... ... ... Perhaps I still fight for this future. But my Regret will consume both the World and everyone.)

Mandela effect, I always knew the plural of octopus as octopi. I also was taught growing up that the plural of fish is fish. I remember being in school and discussing the word “fishes” wasn’t a word. 🤯 Did this change or has it always been this way?

@ksea6565

Ай бұрын

We also said school instead of shoal. No Mandela affect. We just learned how to speak and pronounce things properly.

@Reddotzebra

23 күн бұрын

The plural of octopus is either octopuses, octopodes or octopi. They are all accepted.

Octopus used to be one of my favorites as in octopus salad. Ever since I learned of their habits and intelligence I no longer eat them and I would like to see them undisturbed

I don't think u should farm animals that are smarter than most people it's sad for the octopus

@absolstoryoffiction6615

26 күн бұрын

Farming methods are debatable. Like the lies of that specific octopus farm. But you mortals amuse me... In the brink of Earth's end. I hope the human race will still exist without degradation. Otherwise, much like all Life on Earth. The Cosmos will not miss Humanity, nor shall I. Morality has no meaning to me. For Reality cares not of human opinions. Not even Time shall.

@rosemarietolentino3218

20 күн бұрын

1% are doing it to humans now why not animals.

@simplekneipe2430

4 күн бұрын

"I don't think u should farm animals" Don't worry i fixed your comment

@absolstoryoffiction6615

4 күн бұрын

@@simplekneipe2430 lol

7:34 "their natual habitat is in the wild" me too bro

Aliens 👽 from another planet 🌏 will devastate earth because of what humans are doing to their ancestors the octopus, the squid and other sea creatures

@MareikeMeetsMal

24 күн бұрын

If there's any fairness in the universe, oh yeah, we're rightfully f***ed.

This was the best - well rounded, informative and entertaining documentary I have seen on octopuses. I love them so much, swimming or fried, that I want to get a tattoo of one crawling out of my shirt neck-line. I quit eating them for about two weeks after I'd watched several documentaries about how friendly and intelligent they are. Then logic kicked in and, considering the relish they have in eating each other, I decided it would be foolish to disrespect their own tradition.

The most important thing is that they keep trying and will continue to grow them for meat, what a cruel world

@phaedrus12134

Ай бұрын

It's a much better alternative than overfishing when done right. The fact of the matter is that as long as there are people, we will consume. If there aren't good alternatives to overfishing, which is usually done illegally when something is hard to get, people destroy populations of fish and ocean species. This also fights poaching and overfishing by putting more octopus on the market - lowering the price and hurting the profits, which takes incentives away for overfishing/poaching. In a perfect world, we wouldn't eat such cool creatures. But that's just not the world we live in :( So stuff like this is a good step in the right direction. (Also worth noting that the fisherman and poachers are just trying to survive. They get paid almost nothing compared to the restaurant or food plants that produce and package the product. It's a severe consequence of overpopulation and poverty. It's pretty much legal slavery and something we see in lots of industries... primarily tech and stuff like chocolate)

@jeremywanner4526

Ай бұрын

An overpopulated world

@timsmith7242

Ай бұрын

Humans can survive on plants. We can learn to grow food ourselves and other skills. I think this will help but we have caused so much damage toward animals it will be hard now to simply coexist.

@phaedrus12134

Ай бұрын

@@timsmith7242 consumerism and overpopulation will be the death of this planet. Nothing about how the world runs right now is actually sustainable.

@frlo7688

Ай бұрын

Survival of the fittest, the world isn't all white and pink 😅 nature is cruel af

This feels like the plot of some sort of horror movie

What the music you have in the background at the start? Relaxing.

Octopus farms sounds similar to humans in cubicle farms

I think octopus are sentient. At least super intelligent. They can use tools. I wont eat them.

@frlo7688

Ай бұрын

All animals are sentient ... 🤦🏻‍♂️

@Adamthegeek70

Ай бұрын

@@frlo7688 No they are not but thanks for playing!

@ReapingWillow

16 күн бұрын

​​@@frlo7688Dude, self awareness is a VERY rare level of existence. Only a handful of animals have ever shown self awareness. Look up "mirror test" for animals. Learn something. Animals such as Orcas, African Gray Parrots, Orangutans, Silverback Gorillas, Dolphins... and i also agree, species such as the Giant Pacific Octopus. These are special species. I think what YOU meant is that all animals have a soul? In which case, i believenas long as they have a brain and the ability to feel emotions, then yes, I agree that they have the "spark" of life... an encapsulated energy that keeps us capable of generating the energy such complex systems require to exist, which is then released from us upon death. Then, just as out bodies are re-purposed, raw materials of existence being return to the earth. Whilst our energy, our spark, is also released, but in a much more "as it is, it always will be" kinda way. No longer limited to the known confines of human existence Or consciousness. So who knows,that energy has to go somewhere, perhaps another sentiment creature. Whatever the case... I take that as a good enough reason not to eat them.

Thanks for the info, I think I'm gonna do that 24/7 now.

I wonder if a farm would work if they find a way to make a octopus video game. Some form of entertainment in a small space.

I think the right ethical argument for domesticating animals whether it be for food or companionship, is the belief in mutualism. That captivity grants certain animals an edge against natural selection and allows that animal to breed plentifully and the possibility that that animal could live a bit more successfully than it would in the wild. Octopus are delicious, but they should remain wild catch. It's like how we understand tuna, salmon, and other blue water fish. Obviously as predatory top food chain animals, humans cannot provide a better environment.

To be fair they have a decentralized nervous system and sentient muscles are a unique taste. I can imagine eating a live/squirming one is a surreal rush like a vampire or Wraith feeding on a live human, but that is way to guilty of a pleasure to be ethical at this scale. No hunger can justify this. Also I'm pretty sure forcing them to socialize is how they develop language, civilize, and get revenge on us one day.

With our luck, with so many octopuses together, they'll figure out how to summon Chthulu

As much as i love most seafood, I can eat Octopus. As they've been scientifically proofed to be Sentient Beings.

@simplekneipe2430

4 күн бұрын

The First vegan Statement *✓*

Wait what now i'm British and i didn't even know we caught octopus. I'd assume that they would be imported for our British Asians and possibly served in some restaurants but i never knew we caught them domestically or should i say kept them.

The CGI budget has doubled🤣

All because stinky rich people decided they wanted to eat octopus.

Do you want an interspecies war? Cause this is how you get an interspecies war.

Does this work the same way for squid? I love fried calamari but if I ever found out they were just as smart and as hard to farm, I would stop eating it.

@Gildedmuse

Ай бұрын

I don't know if we have a good sense of squid intelligence, but I know they're difficult to farm.

@alicefreist318

Ай бұрын

They are (on average) as smart and they are not easy to farm. They feel emotion and pain. Even delicious, it is not right to eat them.

I am not a big fan of the Deep from the TV series "The Boys" but the scene in which he eats an octopus named Timothy while translating the begging for its life just made me cry. Watch documentaries like "Earthlings", "Dominion", "Pignorant" etc to see and hear the same begging in real life or just go to a slaughterhouse or fishing boat...!

Anyone see the short about the cutest baby cow that answers its owners whistle, comes running and takes a bottle? Yeah. Vegan anyone?

Why, isn't there enough other stuff to eat! You got me I don't know what to say! I would not eat it! This is something I did not know about, thank you!

Where are all the Karen’s telling us it’s Octopi!? lol 🐙

@greenalien5509

Ай бұрын

I think you mean ichthyologists. I don't think Karen's know that. ;)

@boyd501s

Ай бұрын

@@greenalien5509 indeed and thanks for the new word 🤪

@MareikeMeetsMal

24 күн бұрын

That these horrific torture and murder practices overshadow any grammar issues should tell us something.

@Reddotzebra

23 күн бұрын

Octopus has three accepted plural forms in English, octopuses (proper English plural), octopodes (the Greek loan word plural) and octopi (Which should really be octopii, the fake Latin plural because octopus is a Greek word and not a Latin one.) For some reason English speakers seem to prefer the last one.

0:28 that back ground sound will forever remind me of Top notch idiots 😂😂😂😂

Octopuses are way too intelligent to kept them in small tanks. Please don’t eat them, they have 8 brains and you can’t kill them without doing harm.

I have a feeling they'd farm humans if it wasn't illegal

@MawandeSosibo-lg5ps

Ай бұрын

Bro it was done in the past Slavery 😢

This is how sci-fi horror movies begin...

Seems to me like an animal that needs to be left alone.

keep talking about the intelligence when we eat pork every day, and they're crazy smart

@cheemslord9917

24 күн бұрын

human is weird

In Malindi, Kenya, local women have a place on a shallow beach in the Indian ocean where they cultivate

I am by no means one of the people who obsess over not eating meat due to unethical farming practices, but I would need to be quite desperate before I had any octopus meat. A cow is a big and dumb animal that in its natural habitat stands around and eats grass all day, an octopus is an intelligent predator that nonetheless would be more interested in playing with you than eating you, there's simply no comparing the two.

So, for food they want to cage the best escape artists?

Determination could be a great quality to have but you need the intelligence to know when to give it up. This is one of those instances.

This is quite instigating to me, it show me farming animals from the bottom of the food chain is less harmful to the environment due to presser on the environment from our food commands. But animals from the top of the food chains for example humans would require more from the environment putting a huge amount of press on the environment. Hmmm?

Birth of the mindflayer

Octopus farmers would have to breed the food for their prey as well. It would be good to create a smaller ecosystem to give them an environment that is mostly self sustaining.

This is how the evolve ..shapeshift into people after becoming social and take over

When you say scientists "closed the life cycle" what exactly does that mean?

How's about we do not farm and or catch octopus for consumption??

They taste delicious❤

Damn I keep finding new ways to be disappointed

Fishing using bleach is so laughable, what money makes people do is hilarious

Very sad. They're so smart and deserve much better.

I've had octopus. But I really want one as a pet buddy

spider for silk have similar problem.

So sad. I will never eat one.

Why you ask? because they are smart, really frikkin smart

You ever had em grilled with butter and spices

Constant self-harm! What are these people not understanding?

I would never eat a octopus and growing them are not ok.

Talk about a lotta heart, in the face of colonization, gentrification, farmization, & or adversity!

Isnt there enough to eat? We have to eat these precious intelligent ocean creatures....😢

Ethics go right out the window when profit is involved...

They consume 3x their weight in food in their life? 🤔🤔 do u mean daily?? Weekly??

They’re too intelligent, I can’t eat ‘em

to prove you’re here before 10 minutes 👇

I've eaten octopus a few times. I like it. But it's not an animal that should be farmed.

Sure, let's catch and mess with octopus DNA. Who knows, we might see kraken in our lifetime, or perhaps few hundred years later.

@rosemarietolentino3218

20 күн бұрын

You think they are not already doing that to humans already. You didn’t learn anything from the past few years. History has shown us from the Tuskegee experiment's and WW2.

Even before getting into this video, I can tell a huge reason this is stupid is cause they're just too smart

not all generalists are easy to cultivate

I used to love these videos but the new background music doesn't match the mood feels like a horror story.

@victoriafeldman8825

Ай бұрын

That’s because it is a horror story

@mike-wille

Ай бұрын

​@@victoriafeldman8825exactly

@MareikeMeetsMal

24 күн бұрын

Indeed.

so we not gonna say octopie?? or is that not the plural word

I love octopus

Man so in love with greed he Has forgotten himself and found only appetite

There is one potential, and strange side effect from these farms. Octopus intelligence is not just for opening complex boxes or solving labyrinths. There is a theory about octopuses that, they could be capable of building their own civilization if they could transfer information to the new generations and formed colonies. In wilds, octopuses are extremely violent towards one another. One of the reasons why females choose to go away from eggs before they hatch. In captivity however, you essentially create an octopus environment where they can form colonies and get along with each other. With generations of raising and shaping their behaviours, we might get a chance to test this theory. I wonder, will this farm grow octopuses that start to make their own complex tools and such?...