I've used folded beach towels for years.

@CallumSk8er

3 жыл бұрын

at least buy some foam. When isolation is discussed there is always someone bragging about using something like an egg box. Why not spend a tenner on some isolation foam, even if to just make your set up look better

@CallumSk8er

3 жыл бұрын

​@BERT hahah welcome to the internet. Other people's unnecessary opinions forced down your throat ;)

@rome8180

3 жыл бұрын

@@CallumSk8er Probably because what he's doing works?

@ATBstudiopink

2 жыл бұрын

Dampened towels or dry? Small dad joke there. . Towels are awesome for walls as well

@postmortemritual

2 жыл бұрын

Nice idea,thanks

Dark green isolation stuff is inarguably the best kind of isolation stuff! Avoid bright colours! Especially Red and Blue isolation stuff, which is too warm and too cool respectively. Green isolation stuff is pleasantly neutral. If there are more than two people in the studio during recording or playback, dark green should be worn... most studios keep a sack of ex-military ponchos for this purpose, but you can use whatever you have available. Furniture arrangement is important. The room should be laid out according to strict Feng Shui principles. Dark sounding rooms may require exorcising. Bright sounding rooms may indicate the presence of pixies. Prior to using the room it is usually common practice to ritually sacrifice a Sgt. Peppers album _(A bic lighter is sufficient)_ - this will appease any remaining studio pixies and satisfy the Gods as to your righteousness. Happy recording

@LordDRockMusic

6 жыл бұрын

GaryChap This made me lol pretty hard 😂

@BartNelis

6 жыл бұрын

WTF ...LOOOOOOL .... LMAO :-)

@rudymartinez5537

5 жыл бұрын

😂

@ace-smith

4 жыл бұрын

I'm ashamed to admit it took me until the military ponchos to understand this was a joke - I thought the color references were just studio sound lingo I was unaware of.

@XX-121

4 жыл бұрын

after the Sgt Pepper sacrifice and a good sage cleansing and adding the green stuff then add a drop of acid and play the japanese cd pressing of tool's "10000 days" and then the ceremony will be complete and you will be able to see the light.

Hello Streaky, been watching your videos for a while, Great content keep em coming! I have a question on this isolation topic though, What do you think about Sorbothane isolation? I have never seen any of the pros talk about it and I think its way better than foam which the pros always mention

Thanks a lot for that info! I will test that when i fnished my speaker's. How about just some rubber? Not on such small speaker's but on big and heavy one's like the ATC's that you had.

Dear Streaky!Thanks for your great video!!! I want to ask: are the DSMD 50 much worse than 60 for use with the 11 kg monitor?

Hi Streaky, in your opinion, the iso pucks can improve performance even with monitors on stands like Zaor product ?

Streaky thank you for the cool and informative videos! Curious what your thoughts are on the Primacoustic Recoil Stabilizers?

I'm running Auralex acoustics angled wedges under my adam audio on floor stands. I have the pucks and the difference is so incredibly small it can only be measure by specialized sound mics. Diminishing returns bro.

@jamahlrawls3520

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Ryan Sound The tallest pucks or the shorter ones? I’m really interested in putting my speakers on my desk if possible; did u do that or did u use floor stands along w/ the pucks?

Do you think you will still need one of these isolation products if you have your speakers standing on independent stand from the desk ?

Great video streaky as always, love your posts :) .... challenge to commenters how many times does he say these ? lol

Thank you for these iso tips. I worked in Nashville at major a recording studio that used very good isolation for near field speakers. I am retired now and own my own budget friendly studio. The ones I made are 2"X12" rectangles of mineral wool wrapped in material. I had left over. The great monitors I invested heavily in have very, if any that I can detect, No low end loss. Low cost but quiet effective. I haven't had one client tell me they were dissatisfied cause they could hear sound emanating from my mixer desk. You sir, I admit you have much better ears than the average listener. I appreciate your videos and education about such matters.

Now i understand why a lot of music is poorly recorded. The speaker sound is going over the engineers head.

@root4669

4 жыл бұрын

Engineer is too strong a word, that requires passing marks, more like high school stoner.

@brunog.8920

4 жыл бұрын

Like the great Drax the Destroyer said: Nothing goes over my head! My reflexes are too fast, I would catch it.

@Rzn8B58

Жыл бұрын

you want the tweeter going over your head and the woofer at ear level, same as with a club or dj setup. the highs will fatigue your ears faster.

Thank you! Great video. I ordered the IsoAcoustics. The DMSD were out of my comfort zone for home audio. Experts like you do a great service. My hearing after 40 years of flying commercial jets isn’t so good. Your review really help me. Ty Steve

would the pucks further improve my Ultimate MS-100B stands or are they already good enough?

Speaker dudes from Auralex are doing the trick, not cheap but very efficient. I used them for a long time, now my Yamaha monitors are on the wall, just to uncouple them from the desk. I have not a lot of space here, so this solution works for me, btw I used the original brackets from Yamaha, these are isolated as well. But you are right placing them right on the console isn't' a good idea. Great video.

Tell me please. I have monitors genelec 8040. They are not put on IsoAcoustics ISO racks without the supports that come with them in the kit. If we put a wood plate on these supports, and we already put the speakers on it, will the effect have the same vibration isolation?

Watching your video Streaky, inspired me to get my head around what I could do for the near field monitors I just bought to isolate them. Being disabled with limited funds, I either have to save for ages to get good equipment or like in this instance, get my grey matter working on an alternative. Sometimes the idea's work out be no good & I have no option but to buy market products. So I got myself down to a local Poundstore & bought 8 high-density foam balls for £2, & at my local hardware shop, I bought 16 large coasters, for sofa's & the like, for £8. Couldn't wait to get home & try this idea out!..... I 1st off put 4 coasters down the right way up & placed a foam ball in each, I then turned the top 4 coasters upside down & balanced them on top of the balls. The speakers were put on top of them. The result was AMAZING!! The speakers are completely isolated from my desk, I can feel the vibrations with my fingers when I touch the top coaster but when I touch the bottom coaster, there is no vibration at all, so the ball is removing it all & the difference this has made is HUGE!! You can see in the screen shot, exactly what I have done & if anyone doesn't believe the result.... try if for ya self! You will be amazed too & not just at the saving you will make but the quality of sound..... All that's left to do now is make a raised shelve to stand my PC monitors on & place the speakers each side of them, to get my triangle right with the tweeters at ear level. It's all good!! prntscr.com/fxnodd

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

haha this is mega...before clicking through I thought what is this guy on...but they look excellent and if they work that is perfect...nice work 👍

@garyhinde1173

7 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them & I would be really interested if you tried this way for yourself & compared them to the others you have. What's to lose? A tenner hahaha

@howsziz

6 жыл бұрын

GARY HINDE,,,,,,,,I have just two things to say to YOU !! The First thing is ,,,hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. The Second thing is.THANKS. You are one very Clever dude. :-)

@keitholdbean3173

6 жыл бұрын

What you made looks very good . isolation vibration devices ..

@z00ts00t77

6 жыл бұрын

Great idea, I'm going to try this myself, thanks.

Thanks for the tip Streaky!

Thanks for uploading this valuable information.

could u leave links in the description when showing products?

Hi how does one decide what the distance should be between the ears and the monitors. No one seems to,be addressing this issue. Is there some kind of system, based on power output, woofer size etc.

I already have the auralex isolation pads for my speakers. Do you think it's worth the difference in quality to buy the isoacoustic hockey pucks? (~$200 both both speakers) I just bought the Focal Twin6 Be Monitors to use for mastering. Thanks!

Foam can point the speakers upwards or downwards. These solutions are just level?

Is there any way to see some kind of test showing frequency or waveforms of how these different acoustic dampers really work in a treated Room??

Can soomeome give me an opinio for speakers? So basicly I had logitech x230 for my tv and pc but they dont work anymore as they got old... Now Im thinking on getting new ones to replace them but dont know what to choose between: edifier r1850db, edifier r2000db, klipsch r15pm, kef x300a, m-audio bx8 d3

I have a 6-10 db boost at 160 hz caused by my desk, even with isostands. Will the pucks help remove that boost?

thanks this very helpful :)

I'm not a fan of the iso acoustic stands. I do currently use them but they feel so cheap and the rubber really sticks to the metal adjusters, very frustrating to set up or adjust. Definitely gonna try the daddy pucks !

thank you for the advice as usual!!! i see the big PSI in the background.how they sound in comparison to the PMC?

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

vid coming next week :)

thank for ur knowledge and insight

Hey streaky. How can u adjust the heighy with them "isos"?

I wounder if there is any good solution for isolating if you want to wall mount the speaker ?

going to try out the DSMD you got me excited

Great video man! Would you recommend using either of those pucks if you already Have some ATC25's on Sound Anchor stand? Thanks!

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

Drummerboy106 yes I would as they will be on a solid base but you need to separate the speaker from the stand.

hey that was great, didn't know about the pucks, gonna check them out!

@philipsaxin9820

7 жыл бұрын

I got the iso-pucks. REALLY good!

what do you think about isoacoustic's "Aperta" series, which is an aluminum version of the plastic stand you have? Or are the isolation pucks still a better way to go instead of the stands?

Great! I love your videos!

Thanks for this!

I've used rubber, cca 2cm thick. It is sold for "soundproofing" your washing machine :). I've put it under monitor and under legs of stands I've made for them.

I had mine mounted on wall brackets in the studio I was using. Unfortunately I've not got access to the building now as it closed down, however I'm thinking of doing the same thing where I live. Right now however they are just sat on a glass shelving stand which is itself mounted on top of a worktop. A bit closer together than they used to be due to space but don't sound too bad. I think being glass and not wood helps a bit.

I just got a set of True-mix AR5s Studio Monitors very recently and right out of the gate I used some specially-designed Foam Pads between them (that came with in the Studio Monitor Package and the stands, and they really DO make a difference. Before when the only pair of Speakers I had to rely upon where Samson BT3s, I simply used some Styrofoam packaging with them in my Desk to try to provide a level of isolation to try to make the best of what I had! It really does pay off de-coupling your monitors with something!!

Thanks a lot for the very informative video. And what about real ice hockey pucks ? i have seen them used seldom under electronics but not speakers actually.

So does anyone use isolation pads for a soundbar? Just purchased the Samsung Dolby Atmos soundbar and I’m looking for any info on isolating the speakers.

Should I not do all these which u said in the video?

awesome video, what stand do you advice to get? I just bought barefoot yet I need adjustable stand and in my country I couldn't find something solid so any advice ? I'm planning to buy it from vintage kings or sondpure or anywhere in US by the way I just ordered DMSD 60 PRO and it made a big difference for me and you forgot to try the BETTERMAKER MASTERING LIMITER I just found that dave Pensado got it in his studio :D

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

I will check out the Bettermaker Limiter I just need to find somebody to lend me it :) when you say stand do you mean to put the speakers and DMSD's on?

@a3production277

7 жыл бұрын

yes because I found a lot of companies that makes monitor stands but not adjustable also not solid enough so if you have any company in mind to look to their monitors stands I would be glad

the more layers of materials with different density you put under it the better the isolation

@mastertrey4683

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, im using styrofoam sandwiches. One dense piece on top, a more foamy piece in the middle, then another dense piece on the bottom, works perfectly

Hi Streaky ! Thanks for all the wonder- and useful videos ! I have the Iso Acoustic which I am VERY happy with... but I have angled the, so they are 2 com higher at the rear end than in the front end... can that cause any problems ? I am thinking non vertical "drag" inside the monitor case (heavy magnet speakers) Gravity issues ?

@steven2809

Жыл бұрын

😂 vertical drag?

Now I know where the term snake oil came from.

what do you think of individual stands for studio monitors?

What if the speakers are hanging from fishing line tied to the ceiling?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t sit under them 😂👍

whats the name of the green stuff that you are using?

i used those yoga brick with a plus 3 slices of foam, in the middle a kind of photographic material that i have, and it works fine for my jbl lr305

The packing foam that came with my old Rokit 6s has worked for me. I do most of my work by headphones anyway then go around the place checking other speakers.

Have you tried the Triton Audio NeoLev?

Any thoughts on having that speaker turned on its side to achieve proper tweeter to ear level? I've just tuned my Focal Solo 6's on their side with the base port on the inside and (at least to my ears) things have come a lot more into focus... Interested to hear what you think of speakers on their sides in general....

@BrewReview

10 ай бұрын

At that point you're likely experiencing a more vertical dispersion of the tweeter from the in-built waveguide. Near fields are designed (typically) with horizontal placement in mind and using them horizontally negates the design principles of the waveguide. It can also have an effect on how wide your mixes sound, better or (usually) worse, due to the fact that it can cause even further smearing of frequencies. It likely won't be as focused a sound as intended unless the speakers have horizontal placement inherent to their initial design.

Hi Streaky, I am considering of getting the Isopucks and my speakers are sitting in the middle to the edges of the table and pointed to me, it still has a few inches of table space would the iso puck still provide any benefits?

Hey Streaky, This is not an audio question so forgive me, I am a fan of your work and channel though. I noticed that this video looks very poor compared to your latest videos. My wife has just started video blogging and is suffering from the same video quality as in this one. What did you do to get to the super high quality you're at now? Thanks PrichA

keeping them ON or NEAR a desk is a fantastic way to EFF up your sound quality right there!!

Hi Streaky, any review of your PSI audio 17 and 14 ? Thx

what would you suggest for ATC SCM 100 monitors, which are quite heavy? Currently I use small floor stands, that come with the speakers, but I don't feel like using spikes, as they damage the floor and I couldn't move speakers around, which I do sometimes.

@wojciechczupta

4 жыл бұрын

I found it: www.isoacoustics.com/products/gaia-series/gaia-i/ - expensive piece of equipment. Better be good...

Cool! Thanks!

Hello, are dmsd still best option? Thanks for answer!

@Streaky_com

13 күн бұрын

Yes, absolutely

Are this iso - pucks the mini?

Hi! Just found your channel! Nice tip! Will look up for the suggestions!! Tks

You can buy small rubber feet that can be glued onto the speaker base ... that works the same and costs 2 quid for a set of four ...

@dennissvensson6051

6 жыл бұрын

keith old bean no, if they are to soft they will be compressed and transfer the vibration, same if they are to to hard from the beginning, but I can't say enything about the product he is displaying. But they are why to expensive.

Got the pucks under my Kali In-5's and they work really well even though they are on my desk. 😎

I use layers of these rubber sheets "loadsecure" that are used to hold skids in place when shipping in a semi trailer.. about 3" thick currently... Free for me. And I was able to layer under anything I've stacked between.

Mind I just use sponge with cut out part of rubber sleepers and pasted together using the rugby soluble/gums. Vibrations solve in 5 minutes job. Cut Size (2.5”x2.5“ inches )

-thnks fr that you really hlpd me alot

i bought isopucks for my eve sc307s and the difference is very noticeable and tight

Instead of buying four for each speaker, couldn't you buy three for each speaker? Triangle formation? Two under the front or back, and the single one centered under the opposite side? Would at least save some money?

Need have a set that’s on the console to simulate what people do at home putting their speakers on bookshelves and such?

Have you tried simple Sorbothane hemispheres under the speakers, they are usually really cheap and a lot better than foam.

I have been using NBA Official Ice Hockey Pucks under My Technics SL1210mk2's for Years and these look like the Next step up. Might give them a try.

thanks for the advice

thank u for this video, what about Auralex MOPADs ? will be they worth buying for that price?

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

if you've got nothing then these are better but you should skip the dinner out this weekend and buy the isoacoustic for around £100...or skip the summer holiday and buy the DSMD's 😂😂😂

@sivaprayojan

7 жыл бұрын

haha! :D thank you!

The Iso acoustics ISO puck are around the same prise as DMSD 50 what one would you go for if DMSD 60 was out of your budget ?

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

DJ TINY M if the picks are out of budget then normal Iso acoustic stands are excellent

I thought this might be a satire video of high end isolation products. But no, you're serious. Have you tried chakra aligning crystals?

@d3tach3d

6 жыл бұрын

LOL! this comment had me dying. I was going to write something similar because this guy sounded like a knob.

@reptilespantoso

5 жыл бұрын

I'm dutch. We're as cheap as the scots but we have better PR. So I'm using decoupling. It started a long time ago with "spikes" that a friend (high-end nut) gave me. "ooooh my" I thought. this actually works. So now I'm using something that works really well. But I'm not spending 600 squid, instead I'm using basic building materials. :-D

What do you think about Sorbothane Hemispheres and where they fit in comparison?

Hey, I know a Nigerian prince who has a great offer for you.

@CurtisGabrielMusic

3 жыл бұрын

This is cry of someone who has never heard them with good monitors in a properly treated room that's set up right. They make a significant difference. It's simple science really.

@donepearce

3 жыл бұрын

@@CurtisGabrielMusic And for you I have this snake oil that will cure all your ills.

@theanthill1001

3 жыл бұрын

Overconfidence and ignorance, together at last! ANY music producer, mixer, mastering engineer, or any musician who's spent time in a studio will tell you this guy is exactly right. That's why he gets paid to master the music you and I listen to, and you don't.

@donepearce

3 жыл бұрын

@@theanthill1001 You are speaking entirely for yourself.

I use the foam the speakers came in. It's a dense styrofoam. Works great.

LOVE Streaky Mastering! In my project studio, I'm currently in the lower class of foam decoupling for my studio monitors. Foam provided by Thomann (no affiliation). Cheers from Taichung btw! Thank you 'Streaky Mastering' for following me on Instagram as well and thanks for the educational and thoughtful product review, I really liked it. It was helpful because I will skip the isopad entry level in favor of the state of the art solution down the line. However, at this time, the foam is decoupling very well ( in terms of recording budget). ;)

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

nice, thanks for watching...pleased you're getting something out of it :)

This is off topic but It might be a big deal so it is interesting. Why would you put some of those hard monitor pads on the surface of the expensive outboard gears? It feels like you don’t own that all stuff....

Thomann have some isolation foam pads made especially for this. I recommend those.

You forgot the pads. Why don't near field monitors have threads at the bottom for screwing in spikes?

Just being broke, not facetious, but what if I just stuck a few pieces of rubber under the speaker. Would that work. Also, what about books. Thanks for the video.

I think I'll try corks from wine bottles. 4 to 6 grouped together should make a leg, 4 legs per speaker. What do you think?

@Streaky_com

6 жыл бұрын

Rufus Romeo sounds like a plan...or miss going to dinner one day and buy some proper ones :)

I've not heard the Pucks yet but I do have a set of the ISO L8R200 stands under my monitors and the sound is superb, it's hard to imagine how anything could make them sound better other than buying better speakers.

@jbforce10

6 жыл бұрын

l34052 I also use the ISO stands in my home studio, tempted to balance halved squash balls between the stand and speakers for additional isolation.

What is a squash board?

What if u added bricks or other very heavy objects ontop to plant the thing down hard?

Thanks man your awsome

Have you review those PSI monitors? I don't see any video about them from you.

@Streaky_com

6 жыл бұрын

Allen Aung no I never did reviews that often when I was at metropolis but I’ll see if I can get the small 17’s over as I thought they sounded good but would be nice to hear them in a different room

Hey Streaky ! I see that you're using fabfilter pro L as your final limiter, have you ever tried A.O.M invisible limiter G2 ? I think it's really nice limiter and can handle quite a bit...

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

I've not but just downloaded to give it a listen...thanks for the tip

@danielkisel5661

7 жыл бұрын

Streaky Mastering You're welcome, tell me after you try it out what is your opinion about A.O.M invisible limiter G2 vs Fabfilter PRO-L Thanks 😉

What is a nice affordable setup that can be better than a cheap logitech thing but not crazy expensive? like maybe $100-$225

What do you think about the primacoustic RX series? I've heard they are pretty decent, very solid.

@Streaky_com

7 жыл бұрын

They are ok and a step in the right direction but they are pretty much in the foam pad category for me, I don't think they give as much separation / clarity as the other options on the market these days.

Why stop at structure-borne noise? Might as well construct an anechoic room while you're at it.

Thank you!

Isoacoustics does the job.... Totally recommend!

But do they go to 11?

Vibration from near field monitors is super helpful in my case. Ethan mentioned his measurements that show little difference when the sound is measured over the air. What needs to be taken under consideration is that our ears are not the only way the sound reaches our brains. It's also the vibration of the floor, it's the vibration of the console palm rest which we can feel rather than hear. This is an important factor which might actually be helpful rather than harmful. One of the reasons cars are so good for assessing our recordings is the vibration that we feel with our hands resting on car doors, vibrating car floor that we feel with our feet, etc. In this case it doesn't cost much to try different options. Try it yourself what's better for you! Don't listen to "you should never do that" advice.

@mitchiemasha

6 жыл бұрын

This is why clubs are better upstairs. The bass carries along the floor more than the hard ground. You feel it more than hear it. Increase the sensation for much less power. Hard floors can often make the bass feel dead.

@reptilespantoso

5 жыл бұрын

I'm using paper cone bass driver speakers (old K&H) to check the bass. These never lie, those germans knew what they were doing. They're the size of small nearfield, but we tested ABX and I can hear 30 Hz on them. The potentian pitfall with your method is, that, unless you get it 100% right, the room or the surface in the car emphasizes different bass frequencies (through resonances) than in a club.

@CyrilleBoucanogh

2 жыл бұрын

If you need vibrations over the floor buy a subwoofer. But what Streaky wanted to say is warning that placing the speakers on the meter bridge we are smearing the transients and destroying the high frequency waveform loosing the energy and accuracy and details.