Maxout any% speedrun WR is now a thing. This is madness

Imagine getting a maxout before “transition”… welcome to 2022 Tetris

@Karol-mx5nl

2 жыл бұрын

its like the game is redefinied, 10 years ago we had firsts maxouts on lvl 18 on video from harry hong, then we had more and more maxouts but lvl 29 was still kill screen. and right now we have maxout on lvl 29 starts, multimilion score world record. it`s amazing how the players improved

That is a 53% Tetris rate ON A 29 START. Absolutely incredible. In the not to distant future the earliest Max record will be achieved from a 29 start.

@maxdragonsoul5553

2 жыл бұрын

considering how fast rolling is changing the game and breaking records, i expect it to happen within a month

@biggiemac42

2 жыл бұрын

it happened today but fractal wasn't recording so we just have a screenshot

@jrmaddu1

2 жыл бұрын

@@biggiemac42 where did he upload the screenshot?

@DuringDark

2 жыл бұрын

Earliest as in RTA speedrunning maxout?

@Robert_McGarry_Poems

2 жыл бұрын

@@DuringDark number of lines (Used to be like 177)

eric preparing for tournament play after the line cap

Man, that control and how quickly you think is unbelievable! What's the glove for? Does it help reduce impact on the fingers or is it for something else?

@EricICX

2 жыл бұрын

the glove is for reducing friction between my fingers and the controller surface

@ZXMany

2 жыл бұрын

@@EricICX Ah, that makes sense, thanks so much! Seriously impressive stuff 🙏

2 жыл бұрын

@@EricICX could you use a glove made from a more slippery material? Or maybe sand the back of the controller to make it more slippery lol

@Robert_McGarry_Poems

2 жыл бұрын

@ Can't knowingly alter the controller, but wearing it down by rolling a lot......

@GamerGee

Жыл бұрын

The glove is magic

Yoooo that cleanup + dirty tetris was absolutely insane

There will be 2 types of kill screen players ones who just single and double trying to survive and the super elite players who play like normal and go for Tetrises

@oisyn-

2 жыл бұрын

Unless there's going to be a time limit, going for tetrisses is just an unnecessary risk.

@durteedan7836

2 жыл бұрын

@@oisyn- I mean when one misdrop could end up killing you anyway going for tetrises isn't that much riskier when you know how to manage your stack

I haven't been following tetris for the past few years and I come back to this guy making the kill screen look like a joke, amazing... I saw a video about the new rolling technique but didn't expect it to be this effective

Bruh, he is just built different. He literally got the maxout from a dirty tetris and then he proceeded to clean all the garbage. Doing this is risky even for pre 29

insane that this is already a category, GG

B17200 topout at 225 lines.... That's bonkers, I can barely do that from an 18 start! Eric, you are truly a treasure. Congratulations on the earliest 29 maxout WR!

Ah yes my favorite Tetris player fractl

you play better on 29 than i do on 18

ctwc this year is going to be absolutely fucking astonishing

Congrats!

Oh people are just maxing out from 29 starts now okay what the fuck I wouldve never imagined this happening within 20 years 4+ years ago

The score pace is even better than level 18 or 19.Rediculous!

I find I'm getting into a trance just watching this game.

this is a significant improvement and just the bees knees.

congrats!!!! holy shit

This is amazing, if only Jonas could see this!.

And this is what koryan was up against

Rolling makes tapping look like DAS.

@oxey_

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's crazy. 16hz was about as fast as you could go tapping while that's basically the bottom speed of what's possible now. Also keep in mind, rolling on 29 (>20hz) is the same relative speed as das on 19. That's really crazy to think about

@maxdragonsoul5553

2 жыл бұрын

roll 29 is slightly easier than das 19 in movement terms but decision making and mistake recovery is ridiculous here

Max before transition!!!

That's just pure madness!

@maxdragonsoul5553

2 жыл бұрын

damn i would love to see hector rolling

@FlyHec

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxdragonsoul5553 My thumb is fast enough (10Hz) for how badly I play. 😢

That was close. Freaking amazing.

Mad lad gg

Sick beat.

Wow. Just wow. I play with the same aggression, even less, on 19, this is a whole new galaxy

GG

so FAST

A tetris 4 lines up on 29, that's not a dirty tetris, that's a filthy tetris.

SHEEEEEEEESH

👌 It's a spicy meatball! 👍

Nice seeing some post 29 play that isn't just 500 single line clears

*Watch him do the WR of earliest maxout on level 29 one day*

Pog

This has got to be the fastest maxout too, right? 5 minute maxout is crazy

What WR comes next? Congrats ✨🤙

Great job with getting NES Tetris World Records just out of the blue!

@wang10057

2 жыл бұрын

it’s a product of hard work

@Dedicatedtolivinginthepast

2 жыл бұрын

@@wang10057 Yes I am very aware I also play NES Tetris sometimes for fays on end trying to get a new PB (Mine is a little over 600k) and coming up fruitless for my efforts and I can just barely play on 29 speeds so to see these records happen it just incredible!

pro

How do you think that fast? I only play modern tetris and when 9-0 stacking, I can only do 1.8 pps…

my fucking god i came at that 999600 tetris, perfect way to maxout

At 186 lines he has 999,600 points - if you started on 19 and got only tetrises, you'd have that exact score at 164 lines! Also this sub 187 line max is within 12 lines of the all time earliest max. The earliest max will soon be from a 29 start, and eventually, won't even be beatable from a non-29 start. Mind blown.

@EricICX

Жыл бұрын

it might already be. A bit after I posted this, fractal161 posted an unrecorded 151-line 29 maxout. Whether or not you choose to believe it because it's only a picture is up to you, but frankly my mind is kinda blown away that it might be possible

Can you play a 29 game but put in the code to go up a level every 10 lines?

@FrayRS

2 жыл бұрын

You can actually do one better you can start the game at level 29 (transitioning every 10 lines) with a 1.2m starting point so you can simulate your post-post play.

That was nice! How many attempts did you make before?

@Alvin_Vivian

2 жыл бұрын

Backhanded compliment

@Phroggster

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alvin_Vivian I see it originating more from curiosity than anything else, which makes me curious, too. No one plays like this without significant experience, and I don't believe that attempting to quantify said experience reduces the magnitude of the accomplishment.

@Alvin_Vivian

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phroggster Who cares how many attempts it took? Would you ask someone how many shots they took if they posted a photogenic selfie on social media?

@Phroggster

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alvin_Vivian No, I personally wouldn't, because I have zero concern for what the majority of people look like on social media. I'm also aware of how such a question could be (mis)interpreted, but am willing to give the benefit of the doubt that it originated more from curiosity than from intentional denigration. Then again, my marks on the gaming leaderboards (outside of the Tetris community, mind you) all have attempt counts visible in LiveSplit, so maybe I'm just not vain enough to concern myself with such things. And I believe that Almas cares, at least enough to casually express interest in it.

@gloriousleader406

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alvin_Vivian he asked a simple question.

Playing like it’s TGM now

Напряжение на перделе!

He's too powerful

@Robert_McGarry_Poems

2 жыл бұрын

Ultra instinct Eric.

what the hell dud

I'd call it post transition maxout but what do i know

A wise man once said, level 29 is just level 19 but faster.

reading a lot of comments that i don't understand. someone explain what any of this means?

@dihydrogen

2 жыл бұрын

anything in particular?

@Robert_McGarry_Poems

2 жыл бұрын

Tap: one finger, maybe two. Roll: five fingers on one hand.👌 Hertz, a measure of frequency. Tap, upper limit 20hz. Roll, upper limit 30+hz. Lvl 29 speed 3x lvl 18 speed. On lvl 18, if no line clear animation and assuming a clear field, pieces take a whole second between lockdowns. 19 is double, 29 triple the number of pieces per second. 1/3 of a second to make game changing decisions, and execute. 29 requires a low end of 15-20hz and only goes up quickly. Hence the old name of kill screen because the speed was faster than DAS could even register. Above 4 lines it requires 20+hz rolling, or being AlexT. Most players playing on 29 are rolling,,, most, not all, most.

TRT?

What do you meaaaaaaaaaan?

i want to get good at tetris but i cant evne play without getting a shit ton of holes :(

@Robert_McGarry_Poems

2 жыл бұрын

Step one don't stack for tetris. Step two, fill holes first, see step one. Step three, let Tetris find you... See step two.

@Kadencabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@Robert_McGarry_Poems ive already improved alot surprisingly i dont have many holes unless rng screws with me

*Erick please do 29-5*

Supermines is gonna lose earliest max record before long

You guys play 29 like how I play 19.

Bruh Tetris just a rhythm game now ggs though

Good lord... what was your Tetris rate? Nuts... great job man also, what are you using to measure your hertz? thanks man

@matonejacksee

2 жыл бұрын

tetris gym patch

@Otto910

2 жыл бұрын

And the Tetris rate until the maxout was 53%

It's a song

In the CTWC scene it is required to start on level 18 at a certain point in competition I believe. At what point does that change to 19? Is it possible that it becomes more efficient starting on 19 to increase the value of tetris's while maintaining a high percentage?

@tokenofdevotion

2 жыл бұрын

It'll be lvl 19 start eventually. The way I think it is: Players now need to know how to play on lvl 18-19 and post killscreen. That's becoming good at 3 different lvl speeds which probably affects development drastically. If competition only required you to learn lvl 19 speed and killscreen speed then we probably would have players being even better at the game because they only need to know how to play on 2 speeds for competition

@Robert_McGarry_Poems

2 жыл бұрын

This conversation is ongoing. The truth is, 18 is hard to play when you are rolling. It becomes the separator that good competition needs. It either forces players to switch playing styles mid game, which some have mastered. Or, you make rollers play slowly and differently at that "slow" speed. At the top end however, if raw score is the only thing that matters and a line cap is introduced, it would be better to start on 19. But, there is still an argument to be made about score potential over raw score, like it was before when 29 was actually a kill screen. Then each speed would get roughly the same number of lines, ie: 18= 130 lines, 19= 100, 29= 70? Then the highest score wins. Stats and competition would benefit from a definite end of game. But watching this play is memorizing when done this well... Conclusion 🤷🤷🤷

Eric plays Level 29 better than DAS players play Level 19.

@maxdragonsoul5553

2 жыл бұрын

don't diss my bois tristop and tugi

Kind of a bummer how this game evolved from being game sense driven and the one with the greatest knowledge of piece placements, height managment, drought Management and so forth, to who has the best mechanics wins. I will always prefer the DAS meta for that reason. While rolling and hypertapping require a lot of mechanical skill, it takes away from the strategy aspect of the game.

@lilysowden4035

2 жыл бұрын

You are massively underestimating how good these guys are at stacking. I can roll at 25Hz pretty consistently but my PB is 650k because I can't think fast enough and my stacking is garbage. To reduce their skill to just the mechanics is incredibly naive.

@lucasimonelli5038

2 жыл бұрын

@@lilysowden4035 my wording wasnt that great i suppose. Not saying rolling doesnt take any stacking skills whatsoever, it just feels like the strategy is sacrificed for the ability to get the pieces over. Nothing wrong with that playstyle. Just not the NES tetris ive come to love.

@gairisiuil

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasimonelli5038 you pretty much have to be just as good at stacking, if not better, to play at level 29. it looks visually like they mess up more, but they are playing at literally 2-3x the speed of old players. this video is of a player trying to optizime the tetris rate and dealing with the same stuff old players did - just faster.

@lucasimonelli5038

2 жыл бұрын

@@gairisiuil well i shouldve been more clear in what i actually mean. I just think that rolling makes competetive tetris from lvl 18-28 completely uninteresting to watch, because its so much easier that mistakes happen pretty rarely in those levels. Lvl 19 DAS matches were so intense back then. It wasnt and isnt my intention to downplay the skills of players who use rolling. I just dont find it interesting to watch.

@gairisiuil

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasimonelli5038 playing will probably never actually reach how clean it was when 18/19 speeds were the meta, and stuff like adjustments will probably never be seen again either. as a player, not a spectator, i do prefer playing DAS, but right now i respect the rolling meta for its technical advancements

Oh people are just maxing out from 29 starts now okay what the fuck I wouldve never imagined this happening within 20 years 4+ years ago