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lol while watching this I forget it's a TAS so I'm getting anxious with all those towers and wells
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
Well, it can be easily confused with Joseph's game (:
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
@Manuel Salokangas I don't know, just decided to stop there at killscreen. I am going to continue this or start a new run at some point when I have enough free time.
Boom! Tetris for Jeff.
@fer2lance
3 жыл бұрын
tetris for Jonas
@darkmiku2483
3 жыл бұрын
@@fer2lance oh no
@moosetwin9023
3 жыл бұрын
@dark miku Jonas, you will be missed.
Even though this is Tool assisted you can still feel the panic
2:07 "wait let me take a small break"
@aidanhennessey5586
4 жыл бұрын
Lol. It manipulated the rng so he gets the piece he needs
@batmanrobinson7882
4 жыл бұрын
@@aidanhennessey5586 no, I accidentally pressed pause and I noticed that when I cleared 20-30 more lines, so I decided to leave it, changing it would take too much time
@simpleperson98
3 жыл бұрын
@@batmanrobinson7882 but that doesn't affect the outcome, right?
@batmanrobinson7882
3 жыл бұрын
@@simpleperson98 that does not affect the final score, but affects the pseudo-random number generator because during the extra frames when the game is paused, the value is changed a couple more times compared to the game without pausing. Basically it affects the piece sequence I got during the game, but since I score only tetrises, the final result does not depend on it.
Just another day for Joseph Saelee
@KelinZhu
3 жыл бұрын
nah Joseph wouldn't die immediately after the second transition
@MikeDolanFliss
3 жыл бұрын
Insanely, he hit WR 1.4 this month.
I forgot for a moment that t-spins sort of exist in classic tetris and got surprised when one happened
@tomypower4898
2 жыл бұрын
Yes room
This was a great watch. Thanks for putting it together 👍
4:07 wtf......
Level 29 is not really a kill screen anymore is it
@Thomas-nv8os
5 жыл бұрын
@Shizune Hakamichi He's referring to hyper tappers like joseph. He got to level 33 i believe
@stevemercier6691
5 жыл бұрын
@@Thomas-nv8os You're right. Here's the link to prove it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJidyqyjoLq5orw.html
@milocrawford4062
5 жыл бұрын
I mean only 1 person has made it beyond 30 and maybe a handful have made it to 30 so yeah it's still a kill screen
@gravedancer9552
5 жыл бұрын
@Shizune Hakamichi most?its kill screen to everyone except one joseph. but he still cant manage to survive it on lan tournament;p.
@fopdoodle1344
5 жыл бұрын
Milo Crawford I think koryan has also made it beyond thirty
I don't know why, but I feel so satisfying when watching this game
This stacking hits way too close to home
wouldnt highest score actually have down presses
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
You are right, this is the highest score without pressing down. It is hard to calculate theoretical maximal possible score with pressing down because it depends on height of your stack and it is even harder to arrange such a game. Unachievable theoretical maximum with pressing down is around 6000 higher, but this is impossible because you can get it only if you drop all pieces to the ground with zero stack. I guess it could be possible to get extra 2000-3000 points
@antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232
5 жыл бұрын
@@batmanrobinson7882 And what about doing a single during level 28?
@GDMecex_YT
5 жыл бұрын
@@antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232 that would only add 1580 points, not that much
@antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232
5 жыл бұрын
@@GDMecex_YT 1160, but everything is relevant calculating the highest score.
@GDMecex_YT
5 жыл бұрын
@@antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232 yeah sorry my bad xd
Even Joseph can’t hyper tap this fast ;)
@angelmendez-rivera351
5 жыл бұрын
ahah ihih He has come pretty close in the past, he has survived getting ceiled out.
@tokenofdevotion
4 жыл бұрын
Watch your mouth
@joebbiden5505
4 жыл бұрын
Little did he know this isnt tas this is joseph
Imagining all the "BOOM!"s made my soul die a little.
I guess you'd have to get really far in this game in order to realize that the first digit of your score is actually in hexadecimal.
@Chase3141
5 жыл бұрын
in the original version, the game just stops counting once you get to 999999. they modified the game here so that it can keep counting past 1 million
@Chase3141
4 жыл бұрын
Manuel Salokangas with the game genie code, the score goes back to A after reaching E, it never goes to F Plus the poster of the video said that he didn’t use a game genie in a different comment
@w7u
2 жыл бұрын
Huff breaking the hexadecimal maxout:
Cheez been on a whole another level lately
Someday this will be needed to get the world record. Players just waiting to get the right RNG for a whole game to be able to get to this point
@heyitsval88
5 жыл бұрын
someone hit level 33 without TAS months ago
@Juurogaming
5 жыл бұрын
@@heyitsval88 I meant beating the world record/getting higher than 1.5 mil
@clockwork4068
5 жыл бұрын
@@Juurogaming The premise of this record is that you stop after the kill screen, so that 1.5 mil is the theoretical maximum. but once people start getting higher levels, this score will not be the limit anymore, that's what the previous guy meant
@NerdTheBox
2 жыл бұрын
@@Juurogaming lol
@w7u
2 жыл бұрын
The world record is 2.34 million now LMAO
This is very addicting to watch
Keeping that DAS charged.
Dat classical T-spin at 4:18 tho..
Pretty interesting to see the kind of board states you get from trying to maintain constant tetrises. Obviously nothing a human could ever hope for.
Jeff boom Tetris.
no pushdown points, harry disapproves
bro, keep going past lvl 29
Final score "F42000" nice
this deserves applause, win in ctwc, destroying joseph or jonas
Boom! Tetris for TASbot!
I was just thinking about this the other day
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to do it myself because all I've seen were TAS videos where author took advantage of RNG (significantly more line pieces than others, like ~110 line pieces vs 60-70 other pieces) or used some glitches, I wanted to do it glitchless and simple
but i thought tetris went on for- OH GOD
you can theoretically have a slightly higher score if you burn one line on level 28 to take yourself to 229 lines, and then get a tetris to level 29, which would then be the true theoretical maximum possible score at level 29 without pushing down
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
Somebody pointed that out already. But the video is not called "maximum possible score", it's "all tetrises to killscreen"
**SimpleFlips wants to know your location*
This is what watching Jake feels like lol
Despite it being a TAS, it still just makes me realize how much I suck at the game.
Can you do one where the line pieces are the least on stats?
3:40 was stressful for me lol
CTWC 2019 Finals.... Joseph vs Batman xDD
@remixtheidiot5771
5 жыл бұрын
Sensei Kang this was a tool assisted attempt. Meaning external help was used, such as slowing down time or turbo buttons. Oh and most likely rng manipulation.
@meow6023
5 жыл бұрын
I know xD
@angelmendez-rivera351
5 жыл бұрын
Remix The Idiot There was no RNG manipulation, all manipulation was speed oriented. It seems fairly evident from the video, since the RNG was not great, but as actual proof, uploader commented somewhere stating this.
@Xealous
5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 he paused to manipuate rng - this only occured once though.
@andrewzhang8512
3 жыл бұрын
@@Xealous that was actually a mistake
Tetris rate = 100%????
@therainmakerinsider
4 жыл бұрын
Yubin Lee it’s tool assisted with a lot of pauses. LOL.
dependencies galore
Ok, Jonas, you can show yourself up now.
4:18 that t spin looks like a modern tetris
Me: *got to level 31 with no tetrises* Also me: *used save states to do it* Trust me guys it was snes tetris I started on level 0 and my score was legit 150k
When did Jonas learn to hypertap?
@johnmoore4185
4 жыл бұрын
Moon Jonas doesn’t hypertap...
@teriww
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnmoore4185 bruh you stupid
@turtlesoup7357
4 жыл бұрын
Brayden McAcy Jonas doesn’t hypertap, he uses DAS (or atleast from what they say)
@drkn0ckers715
4 жыл бұрын
Turtle Soup and John Moore you missed the joke
I have seen it in the past but I can't remember. What is the optimal score at killscreen with a lvl 18 start? It's not that much lower, right?
1,542,000 Tool-assisted gameplay.
bro you had to burn a line at 128
I can see this being done by Joseph in the future.
@Sidnev
4 жыл бұрын
You are overestimating human capabilities
@johnmoore4185
4 жыл бұрын
In pal he got the best possible score you can get before the kill screen I could see him doing this in 5 years
Final score: F42000
This new guy "tool assisted" could wint the CTWC with skills like this, jdmfx and jonas better watch out
@batmanrobinson7882
4 жыл бұрын
He is good at lots of other games and he set lots of world records, especially in speeddruns. For example, this guy called "tool assisted" has world record in Super Mario Bros. of 04:54.03
My dreams
1543160 with a Level 28 Single. It takes 2.5 tertiminoes per line. You can get at most 15 points per drop. A score of at least 1551905 is possible before the killscreen.
@batmanrobinson7882
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are so original, nobody commented that during all this time. Congratulations on being so smart
Wait a minute...
the top digit is hexadecimal
what would be the current max score possible with 270 lines(Joseph Saelee's current line record) ?
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
I wrote a short program to calculate maximal possible score given a number of lines, and from what I got, if you start at level 19, maximum you can get without pressing down in 270 lines is 1895700. Since 270 is not a multiple of 4, to get this score you need to make one double so that you get exactly 270 lines, it's optimal to do it at level 20.
@angelmendez-rivera351
5 жыл бұрын
Joseph's record right now is much higher. A few days ago, he updated to 326 or something. And within the next two weeks we can expect a new record too, since he is aiming for the 400 line mark
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 there is no need to answer the same thing in several comment threads.
f hundred 42 thousand
3:24 if you have OCD
I wonder with the amount of people playing if someone will ever do this within the next few years, some have gotten a perfect transition so I could maybe see it happening with rolling
@batmanrobinson7882
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's very likely to happen in a game with random pieces without manipulating RNG. There is a guy called Scottobozo, he made a TAS run, memorized it and manually followed it on a real NES, I believe it's as good as it realistically gets (unless there is a guy somewhere specifically grinding perfect score in a random game)
Joseph can do better level wise!
Would you ever consider extending this tas into later levels? It is still humanly possible to clear lines in the low 30s
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
I'll probably try to reach 300 lines when I have time.
@brayanrodriguezn.3430
5 жыл бұрын
Well, it's "humanly possible" to play infinitely because the level 29-speed is the highest, the problem is getting someone like Joseph to do it
so technically if one were to tuck and spin perfectly, he wouldn't have to burn any lines🤔
What does the tas do?
What's crazy is that Joseph did this in the PALS version. Unassisted.
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
Yep, that was crazy, he did something like 120 lines without burning.
@goodshipzion
5 жыл бұрын
@@batmanrobinson7882 burned 1 line to max out the score.
06:49 nope😂
4:17 if you look closely there was a crazy t-spin
@jonathan4055
4 жыл бұрын
He plays it likes it's a modern version of the game. But here it must me 30+ taps per second speed.
2:08 pause buffer
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
I accidently pressed "pause" at some point and noticed it when I was at around 120 lines. I tried to remove it and move all button presses, but it didn't work, probably because RNG is updated even when the game is paused. I didn't want to waste time redoing it so I left it as-is.
Build the stack to the right next time for shits n giggles.
So is the method used hypertapping or never losing DAS?
@lilfrostyy8829
5 жыл бұрын
Likely hypertapping as IIRC using DAS is just not viable
@petrockspiracy3120
4 жыл бұрын
It is imposisble to do a lot of this with DAS.
Nice, so this is almost the highest theoretical tetris score without pressing down. Time to wait for humans to replicate this feat without TAS. Would require exceptional RNG though so it...might be possible? question mark?
OMG!!!! YOU WILL CRASH THE NES!!!!
@nik3776
3 жыл бұрын
AND... THIS IS A MUSIC AND A GAME FASTER!!!!
You couldn’t continue on the kill screen even with TAS?
@redegg7653
5 жыл бұрын
You can
First comment to mention Cheez’s 2340240 :D
4:58 Maxout if someone wants to know
Although I know this is tool assisted, I'm so stressed watching this seeing all the double line dependencies and multiple wells...
So does it end because it stacks too fast for the TAS to move?
@Chizypuff
5 жыл бұрын
No, it ends because level 29 is the theoretical end for a human player as humans can't move the blocks fast enough. One "Joseph" however has gotten to lvl 33. Lvl 29 is still know as the kill screen and competitors are only expected to maybe get a few points there, if any
@AndrewBlechinger
5 жыл бұрын
Rather, for a long time level 29 was considered impossible to move past because at that point the blocks fall at a rate of 1 tile per frame. Some players have broken through to level 30 and beyond, but 29 is still considered a "kill screen" because that's when the drop speed maxes out.
i so level 10 this game
Question what score would u get from level 18?
@batmanrobinson7882
3 жыл бұрын
From level 18 that would be 1503600
How does the tool assisted aspect of this work? I know the pieces aren’t truly random but do you just nix the droughts? Or do the pieces drop in an order you predetermine, etc?
@batmanrobinson7882
3 жыл бұрын
The random generator works as it should, I used a tool just to move pieces at the maximal possible speed by specifying inputs frame by frame.
@Datboy1991
3 жыл бұрын
@@batmanrobinson7882 so the tool optimizes piece sliding and rotation but leaves everything else alone? That’s impressive AF
Maybe I can try to do this in Tetris 99
@supermarioglitchy321
5 жыл бұрын
Not possible
Can someone explain what the killscreen is? I'm a decent player, nowhere near tourney-worthy, but I could take on a casual player
@cuby9356
5 жыл бұрын
TheRedCap it’s when you reach level 29 and the pieces become too fast for humans to effectively manoeuvre the pieces
@Oneiroclast
5 жыл бұрын
For most humans at least. Top tier players can actually play at that speed but not for long.
more long bars than any other piece.... wish I could get that in a normal run
4:14 yoooo did this bot t spinned in og tetris isn't that illegal
@davidthecommenter
4 жыл бұрын
You can do T-Spins in classic tetris. It's just to find someone doing that.
Lvl 19 start gives the same score to lvl 20 as lvl 18 start?
@bigrebellion8468
5 жыл бұрын
Tetris score increases by 1.200 every level
@ryanamburgy2791
3 жыл бұрын
Why not level 28 start
@ib_flippek
3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanamburgy2791 you need to use gamegenie for that, i guess dude wanted to make it on legit rules
@ryanamburgy2791
3 жыл бұрын
@@ib_flippek fair
Anyone in the CTWC can do this without tools.
@batmanrobinson7882
4 жыл бұрын
Are you stupid or something? Current WR is ~1298000 which was achieved one time by one person after thousands of tries, which is far from scoring all tetrises
こちらのテトリスの方が遊び易そうだ BPSのテトリスは遊びにくい 十字キーで回転してボタンで落とす仕様だったから
P
у него читы на палки
@batmanrobinson7882
4 жыл бұрын
Нет.
Bot
Who think this is fake or not using real nes control
@batmanrobinson7882
5 жыл бұрын
It's not fake, I recorded it with FCEUX's TAS editor frame by frame. I didn't use any illegal button combinations (as far as I know, pressing left+right or up+down is illegal because you can't do it on a physical controller).
@Oneiroclast
5 жыл бұрын
The fucking title openly states that it's tool assisted, you semi-literate cabbage.
Why aren't you a pro?
Dam that music was annoying.
dislike because of 4:07 even a computer should not be allowed to do that
@exponentialdongexpansion5223
5 жыл бұрын
Do what? Move a piece really far really quick?
@BunnyBoing
3 жыл бұрын
It’s just NES Tetris spinning pieces to the right and not left lol