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@kjellvb1979

3 жыл бұрын

I know I am greedy, but more The Expanse please... Love your work Thank you

@ZenifiXIII

3 жыл бұрын

@@kjellvb1979 Am I greedy as well? I would love full on book spoiler videos from Alt Shift X. Neeeeeed. Moreeeeeeee

@bradytalon2694

3 жыл бұрын

a tip : you can watch series at Kaldrostream. I've been using it for watching lots of of movies recently.

@magnusoliver6086

3 жыл бұрын

@Brady Talon Yup, have been watching on KaldroStream for months myself :D

The casting for Filip blows my mind, he genuinely looks like the child of those actors

@samlycan8826

3 жыл бұрын

especially naomi . they look so much alike

@xinythi

3 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say especially marcos haha

@NoxHowl

3 жыл бұрын

I think the production put the photos of the actors in an app - and used to cast this actor - cause it's really is the "son" of both of them haha

@michaelsalmon9832

2 жыл бұрын

i know right?????? haha im glad i wasnt the only one who saw this

@AverageAlien

2 жыл бұрын

Same with young amos

"Amos is not exactly a model of reason and good decision making" Ok I'ma gonna need that gun back...

@Wallyworld30

3 жыл бұрын

Amos is amazing! When he stripped down in front of that Psycho Prepper he had no fucks left to give.

@AMDG4E

3 жыл бұрын

This comment and the above reply both made me burst out laughing. 😆

@jrich749

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wallyworld30 Wes wanted to go Full Monty but the director talked him out of it.

@maud3444

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha good one

One correction: The people Bobbie saw living in poverty in Season 2 aren't people living on Basic. They're undocumented peoples who don't get Basic. They're the sort of people that Anna's clinic helps out in the show.

@NanashiSC2

3 жыл бұрын

I really don't know anything about the books but didn't the black guy that she met say that he was on the list to become a doctor. how is he undocumented? Or was this something that the show added and is confusing me

@Reedstilt

3 жыл бұрын

@@NanashiSC2 He's the exception. He didn't get into the work programs so he's trying to help out where he can. People on Basic are like Lydia and her husband (though they had some extra help from Erich to provide their home).

@dennisstolwijk7906

3 жыл бұрын

Bobbie's perspective on how people on Earth are also changes when she goes out of the UN complex in The Hague at some point at she goes and get herself a cup of coffee. Here she meets a young barrista who explains she is working hard at that job to score some sort of points that will later allow her into an educational program! That too changes her view on Earther as lazy bums who hold up theirs hands (basic takers) which mostly turn out to be people who WANT to work and mean/do something, but can't because there aren't enough jobs and positions free to do so.

@justgivemethetruth

3 жыл бұрын

@@dennisstolwijk7906 It just seems like a lack of imagination in writing to think these problems we have today will still exist in the same form in 400 years - when there are resources coming in from the asteroid belt and lots of energy and space travel,

@laxjoh

3 жыл бұрын

@@justgivemethetruth It's not a lack of imagination. If you look at the reasons they rationalize how the world's socioeconomic issues/hierarchies are written in the Expanse, it's the most creative thing ever. Adding in fake fantasy elements to it doesn't make it more creative and saying they just magically solved world hunger/war/poverty and created some Federation where humans are close to as perfect as can be is even less imaginative IMO and Star Trek has a lot of creativity in it. These same problems that exist today and hundreds of years into the future exist for different reasons and it shows that it's likely a permanent issue with humanity as a whole and potentially other intelligent species who use war and violence to settle differences and to gain advantage on their opponents. The Expanse is largely more about paradigm shifts than it is about alien threat or space battles.

I believe Bull drinking out of a cup labeled Kamal was the nod towards the new pilot.

@BeCurieUs

3 жыл бұрын

Good catch, ya, prob right

@Diceyst

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, its sucks that actor was such a piece of shit and had to ruin his career being stupid thinking he was untouchable.

@haualoPG

3 жыл бұрын

@@Diceyst What did he do?

@Diceyst

3 жыл бұрын

@@haualoPG was sexually assaulting fans among other things. Studio confirmed multiple reports after S5 finished filming. So thats why he just suddenly stroked out like Fred was supposed to. Edit:spelling. Skool is kool.

@haualoPG

3 жыл бұрын

@@Diceyst Oh well damn, his character had great chemistry with everyone else, gonna be wired when they just ignore him. Why did they kill Fred ? Did Chad also do something like that?

now I understand why you included the affleck meme lmfaoooo

@saviorebello7342

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand... Can you please explain?

@fernf7063

3 жыл бұрын

@@saviorebello7342 cause Ben afflek kind of withdrew from public view and the Batman role; it’s for the juxtaposition between Ben afflek and Holden at the beginning of the book

I was intrigued by the fact that, after opening a gate to other systems and going to new worlds, the story sort of reverted back to the whole Belters/Earthers political stuff, and the characters seemed to fold back into themselves, dealing with personal issues, their past, etc. Kept asking myself if this was how it played out in the books. Thanks for clearing that up!

@robertwinslade3104

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I really like that the story goes in this direction. Cibola Burn/season 4 gives a taste of what must be happening with the colonisation of the new worlds; but so many sci-fi stories have covered that ground of exploring alien worlds in the past. I think it's far more interesting to explore how the opening of the ring gates alters the already tense political situation of the Sol system and the lives of the characters who live there. Plus for the first three books/seasons that politics and intrigue was the bread and butter of the story and Cibola Burn establishes that the peace between the factions is shaky at best; it makes no sense to throw that to the wayside not properly resolved in favour of exploring the alien worlds. The books do eventually get to deal far more with the worlds beyond the ring gates though; I really hope the show gets to adapt that part of the story. I understand why some people who might have expected the story to do something different may be thrown off by this choice though; it's certainly proved a contentious season and I think part of that is down to some people expecting more stuff to do with the aliens and the rings. Although I will admit it also has some pacing issues, I think that some of the people who feel disappointed may enjoy it more if they re-watch now knowing what to expect

@jatzi1526

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertwinslade3104 Well they didn't talk about it affected things. In the books the new worlds is why the Free Navy rises up, not the same old belter vs inners crap. In the show it's like they had all this cool ring stuff and then back to belters vs inners crap. There's a nice taste and now back to the same stuff in season 1

@robertwinslade3104

3 жыл бұрын

@@jatzi1526 Season 5 for the most part very closely followed the book in regard to the extent to which the rings played a part in the plot; a few deviations arguably increasing their presence in the story. Seasons 4 and 5 both also made a point of establishing multiple times that Marco's plan is so popular among belters precisely because so many of them fear that the rings will make them and their culture obsolete, and that a key part of the plan is for Marco to seize control of the ring space

@jatzi1526

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertwinslade3104 Eh I didnt see that. Seemed Marco was just saying the same stuff

@ArawnOfAnnwn

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertwinslade3104 I don't recall hearing much of that in the show as well. Plenty of historical grievances, very little of fears of economic ruin. We do hear hints about people leaving Earth and Mars (especially Mars) in droves in the show, but Marco's speeches keep hammering on about the past, not future.

ASX covering The Expanse makes me happy

@Wallyworld30

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Expanse is just as good as Game of Thrones but in Space! The Expanse didn’t implode like GOT though so it might even be better. We really won’t know until after season six though.

@butchs.4239

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wallyworld30 It really helps that Ty and Daniel are adapting their own story for the show. GOT was great while the show's writers had GRRM's books to work from, it went off the rails when they ran out of source material and had to wing it. I've read in interviews where Ty and Daniel have enjoyed the opportunity doing the adaptation as it allows them a chance to reimagine characters and plotlines in a way that works in a visual medium.

How could you miss the part that it wasn't Phiiip who decided to bring Naomi along. Marco decided that and baited Naomi using Philip. It wasn't because she was trying to find him. It was because when her son called out to her for help after all those years, she couldn't abandon him again. And Marco did it just to satisfy his ego and have her as a trophy. And he could give less shit about how that makes Philip feel. Honestly those two characters are brilliantly done in the books.

Seeing the Barkeith go dutchman, Laconia AND the orbital platforms in the final episode was an absolute joy! I really hope the books get a movie adaptation for the Laconia Arc.

@tarn1135

3 жыл бұрын

While I share the hope the story will continue, movies are too short to tell that storyline. If they did movie / tv show hybrid, that may work. What I mean by that is tv show for the smaller moments a character story arcs, while movies fir the big battles or action scenes. Amazon keeps trying to make and have movies that are accepted by awards places, so that may be an avenue to get there.

@aymendaadaa8685

3 жыл бұрын

wait season 6 wont cover laconia arc ?

@pastlife960

3 жыл бұрын

@@aymendaadaa8685 They must be, surely?!

@no2party

3 жыл бұрын

@@aymendaadaa8685 they can't. Laconia covers three books. If they tried that they'd Game of Thrones the series.

@dennisstolwijk7906

3 жыл бұрын

You have never noticed how the ring gate for Laconia was specifically labeled as such in the opening credits the whole season already? :P Anyway, season 6 really shouldn't be about Laconia at all really. It has to deal with wrapping up the conflict between Earth/Mars and the Free Navy! Laconia mentioned in the finale of season 5 that they mined their end of the ring! In the books they also state that anybody passing through would be met with violence. Spoiler: It isn't until like 14-15 years after the end of the war with Inaros that they suddenly emerge again and shit hits the fan.

Gutted we didn't get the Amos/ Chrissy interaction at the Luna docks, but overall loved this season

@Kennia1998

2 жыл бұрын

are they together together in the books?

@herbertschulz4313

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kennia1998 no but they flirt sometimes

@Kennia1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@herbertschulz4313 update: I'm currently reading Book 7 so now I know 😂

I really don't like how Fred Johnson died in this season. A badass tough guy like him should not die that easy.

@fatetestarossa2774

3 жыл бұрын

Agree : (((((

@ribhuhooja3137

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't read the books, but I _am_ spoiled about Fred's fate in the books, and imo it's kinda better (what happened in the show)

@__nog642

Жыл бұрын

Badass toughness won't stop a bullet though

Saw this on reddit: Alex died the way he lived Stroking things he shouldn't.

@immortalkyou0134

3 жыл бұрын

HAHAHA thank you for the lol

@Mars-di6rr

3 жыл бұрын

Oof brutal

@ratt9868

3 жыл бұрын

*YOUR MEME HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN ITS TOO DANK*

@geofftottenperthcoys9944

3 жыл бұрын

So was anything actually proven? Or just more "lets get them".

@grelkie

2 жыл бұрын

Not alex just the person they chose to represent him, unfortunately turned out be a degenerate creep

Another difference is the Drummer storyline in this season. In the book she was assisting Fred with looking after Tycho. In the series, it appears that they are using her as a replacement for a major character that appears in the 6th book.

@eroshan

3 жыл бұрын

MIchio Pa was always the more prominent character in books than drummer. Theyve combined both for the show and named her Drummer instead of Pa. But her story line is remarkably different from the books.

This season had good writing and everything but I wasn't a big fan. Past seasons felt like they went through half a season of events in a single episode. This felt the opposite it felt like they took 10 episodes to tell the events of 3 episodes

@jaymichael4770

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, that’s the pace the book goes as well. Season 5 is a great adaptation of book 5, but the problem is books 5 and 6 are the slowest and most boring of the series ☹️.

@BeCurieUs

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaymichael4770 Book 5 in particular, but it is also the most horrific so far in terms of the events of the universe. I always felt like the book wanted me to bask in the powerful terrible power of what has just transpired, billions of people are dead...deal with that whole of human civilization.

@jaymichael4770

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeCurieUs it’s horrific, but we don’t spend much time on earth apart from Amos/Clarissa/Anna. I found myself wanting to go back to Ilus or other planets like it to explore more about the ring builder killers. The belters turning into Jacobins with spaceships just felt pedestrian after the threat revealed in books 3 and 4. That’s not to say you don’t write the contents of books 5-6 (personally, I wish JSA Corey had condensed it into one longer book with about 20-25% less filler. You can address Inaros and set up Laconia for book 7 without so much fat.) It seems the correct sequence of events is off though because once you introduce the builder killers, you lower the stakes by going back to belt/planet grievances. I get that book 8 really ratchets things up with the PM killers (and I’d like book 7 more if 5-6 were condensed), but the show is suffering because the source material takes too long to get there. And I’m NEVER the guy that says source material needs to be written to cater to a potential or existing adaptation, but after the events of Cibola Burn, 5-7 is an utter slog in getting to the events of Tiamat’s Wrath.

@BeCurieUs

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaymichael4770 For me, I guess that book felt the most human. Earlier ones were too, but there was less crazy alien shit going on and more crazy human shit. In that, it just felt more violating but I can understand why people thought the pace of it wasn't as fulfilling. Hell, I think this season of the show didn't REALLY hit home how much earth is fucked. The TV keeps talking about millions dead. Put B on there folks and make us really feel it! Maybe that is the odd part about this season. It feels like more has happened then the show really let us feel about it? Maybe that is what I liked about the books, I could live more in those moments, I felt very connected to everything going on, I def didn't feel as connected to this season. Like I didn't care about Drummers new Family at all, the choices there, I just didn't care. The book, maybe I felt that way a bit, too, but it hit a little more since we spend more time with them. I do miss the Anna character, too, she grew on me in both the show and the books.

@stanlee5465

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I think they could have demonstrated Naomi's absolute determination with showing a few less of the essentially identical trips into the middle of the ship...

It would be great if you could do a recap/summary of all the books in the Expanse series :)

@Fartucus

3 жыл бұрын

No

@Zorzek

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fartucus Why not? He has done an explanation of the first book in the series, I bet many people would be interested in the rest of the books. Especially since the last book is coming out this year.

@Fartucus

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zorzek nope.

@KR4FTW3RK

3 жыл бұрын

The plot twist is so mind-bending. You don't want it.

@mgp89119

3 жыл бұрын

@@KR4FTW3RK Maybe the books that have already been adapted for the show?

Love The Expanse; some of the best sci-fi out there

@daxlucero2437

3 жыл бұрын

Not anymore, they the show going intersectional

@robertwinslade3104

3 жыл бұрын

@@daxlucero2437 do you even know what intersectionality is? Because I don't see how it applies to The Expanse

@jrich749

3 жыл бұрын

Some of? 😁

@jrich749

3 жыл бұрын

@blorghised Go watch Star Wars or Jar Jar Abrams Star Trek. Those shows have 1 dimensional characters and lots of explosions so you should love them.

Love this series! Thanks Alt Shift X!

As someone who never comments on anything, I'm making an exception to say thank you for this very comprehensive and well made video. I bounce back and forth between the books and TV series and it's nice to have someone fill in a few of the holes in my Expanse knowledge.

Just found this and your channel. It’s been awhile since I read the books and your video so clearly explains the differences. Thank you!

Exactly what I was looking for... but much more detailed than expected. I really appreciate your work. I wanted to start reading the book after the end of season 5.

Once again you give the best commentary on the internet.

Man, what a great and thoughtful as well as thought-provoking video essay! Keep up the good work :)

Thanks for covering this series!

Excellent work as always. Thanks for posting.

I am so happy you have done this video!

Thank you for such a detailed explanation, absolutely what i wanted after watching the finale to learn more of the lore, comparisons Book and Show, damn i hyped for next season! sub!

You are the Best show/movie explainer. And your videos are quality productions. Thank you Alt Shift X, HUZZAH!!!!

That was a quick turnaround. Well done team Alt Shift X.

@NanashiSC2

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they had Early Access cuz it came out immediately after the episode aired

Any show Alt Shift X rates I watch. Thank you for all the efforts you lot put in.

Thanks Alt Shift X!!

Having read up to book 8, the ending of this season got me really excited to see what they've got in mind for season 6. Great summary you've got here, its been about a year since I read the books and I think they might be worth an extra read through.

Thank you for your work, it's really appreciated :)

Thank you for the service you provide to fans.

Great video like always and thank you for the insight

Alt Shift X, I love your reviews of books, movies, and TV shows because you have the critical eye to pick out details I usually miss the first time. Your thorough analysis of Game of Thrones and Westworld are great and do both shows justice and bring the blurred lines into focus when the showrunners either purposely or incompetently let the stories run amuck. Just wondering if you have any plans to cover The Mandalorian, if you do it would be great, but if not then I understand since that franchise is in such a mess I wouldn't want to spend any time trying to make sense of it either. Look very much forward to your next video, keep up the great work, we are not disappointed.

That was a great and thoughtful review. Nice ending note.

Please also do the other episodes, I always love your analytical style!!!

Amazing, as always!

The reason Cas Anvar (Alex) isn't returning and had his character killed off is because of allegations of sexual misconduct, an internal investigation was ordered and a private investigator hired to look into the matter. A thing of note is that the allegations and subsequent investigation came after principal filming meaning that Alex's death was likely a change made after the conclusion of the investigation, however no official comment has been made on the topic by all parties involved.

That must have been so much work. Awesome stuff!

Great analysis of book 5 👍

Yes please! More of the expanse! More theories and speculation would be awesome too!

Thanks, awesome video and information.

I know you're already doing a lot. Which i really appreciate. Though i'm quite sure your talents would be wonderfully used on WandaVision. There seems to be a lot of things people miss on that show. With your keen eye, i think you'd knock it out the park. Thank you for all the rest of your videos.

still so greatfull you guys showed me "Leviathan wakes", i love these books

great. thanks for the video

This is amazing 😍

Thank you for not expanding on the situation surrounding Cas and his departure from the show. I'm frustrated with the situation and the lack of a definitive answer (at least one I could easily find) on the findings from the investigation.

love ur content

very well done....again!

Well done!

I haven't read the books. I haven't watch the show. I enjoy Alt Shift X's voice. I like the videos.

I can't believe they left out my single favourite Avasarala line in the entire series. After she tells Holden they're going after Inaros, he (typically) assumes he'll be in charge. "You want me to lead it," Holden said. "Yes," Avasarala said, "because literally every UN naval officer who wasn't dishonorably discharged is suddenly unavailable. For fuck's sake, Holden, I have crates of anti-herpes drugs that are more legitimately UN Navy than you are."

@BeCurieUs

3 жыл бұрын

I love her in the show and worship her in the books :D

What an interesting analysis

You should do this for each season this was great

Damn, well now I have to read the books.

@Equoez

3 жыл бұрын

I bought them all on audible. The narrator is really, really great :)

@NanashiSC2

3 жыл бұрын

@@Equoez thanks I'm definitely going to get them now

@BeCurieUs

3 жыл бұрын

@@Equoez Yup, they are top notch!

@CHMichael

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't understand the show without the books. Little things suddenly make much more sense.

@ConkerTM

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. Best SiFi in my opinion.

You left out one more nickname Amos uses in the book for Avasarala. Her responses to being called “Chrissy” are absolutely hilarious 🤣

Breaks my heart to see Alex go, he worked so hard to save the show and now he's gone.

@victormeunier9075

3 жыл бұрын

It´s also a shame his actor sexually harassed women.

@SpaceMonke99

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, man needed to go. We mourn the character but not the actor.

@victormeunier9075

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceMonke99 Indeed, Alex was awesome. Probably the most sympathetic character. :(

@blacktea65s

3 жыл бұрын

@@victormeunier9075 is it certain yet? All I know there were accusations which does not make someone guilty of it.

@timmaximilian9286

3 жыл бұрын

@@blacktea65s No there was a month Long Investigation by a Third Party, that concluded that The accusation we're valid

tbh there's a super good Amos mini comic from his perspectives as a child, its really dark, but its incredible and i dont think enough people talk about it, he's seriously the best character in the series and one of the most interesting in fiction imo, I really like him and a lot of the ideas his character represents and ahhh he's just so cool

shout out to all my other Game of Thrones/asoiaf & Expanse die hards who fucking love this channel

can't believe it's over already

Well done.

Alex died on the way back to his home planet.

@greensmurf221

3 жыл бұрын

*Itchy and Scratchy theme plays in the background*

@darkshines800

3 жыл бұрын

I thought they were only supposed to put ONE Simpsons reference in each series! 😂

@darkbozo11

3 жыл бұрын

I hope he kept his hands to himself on his way back to his home planet 🙏

@YIIMM

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkbozo11 He did, apart from the odd stroke.

@darkbozo11

3 жыл бұрын

@@YIIMM Ey thats just part of the occupational hazards off flying a spaceship .

Alt shift x uploaded =O

X's videos on GoT and now The Expanse are the absolute best!!

This was such a great season. i really feel like the show is it at it's best here and in many ways the changes they made to the story was not only better for the format but may have improved over the books.

I'm going to miss Alex in the show. Having someone that looks like you in an amazing show like the expanse was amazing and the first I realised just how important representation is and good it is when it's done right.

Hey Alt Shift X , you should totally watch Dark on Netflix it's only 3 seasons. Mindblown! I love it

When Amos wouldn't stop calling the meat head guy "Tiny" that shit had me dying lmao!

I just watched the episode and was looking for videos to watch.... well, hello!

Aww. That's very sweet about Amos and Naomi.

One major change is also the impact of the rocks hitting earth. The show only mentioned millions dead, the book had billions. Though this might change next year if they explore the catastrophe more.

@termitreter6545

3 жыл бұрын

Yeh, in the show they say something like "about 1.2 or 2 millions dead, much more expected". So it really confused me when this video and people in the comments talk about bilions of dead; and the wiki goes as far as to say that the planet is devastated, with most of humanity on earth killed. The pictures they show also look more like the equivalent of a large nuclear strike, similar to the martian nuke, rather than a world ending event. Really makes me wonder what they're going to do with that. The show paints a very different picture.

saved my day

Surprised me about Amos and Alex being minor, they were great in the show. Thought they were big players.

@alanpennie8013

3 жыл бұрын

I think what happened is that the authors got more interested in them and eventually made then pov characters. Then when the show began the rewrote the earlier part of the story to make The Roci crew more of an ensemble.

@jrich749

3 жыл бұрын

They are pretty major characters. They just do not have pov chapters. The chapter where Naomi tells when she first fell in love with Holden made him my favorite character.

fred says "the sides keep changing around him" cue metal gear solid 3's the boss speech flashback but sneak eater plays instead of fortunate son

The Lake Winnipasaukee bit might as well be a real commentary about how rich Massachusetts people buy up houses in the lake regions in New Hampshire (where that lake is located)

@SlavaC

3 жыл бұрын

Also the planet was called Laconia

Good clip :)

He’s back omg he’s back

This Show is fire...this channel is fire...

I Watched the entire series with my family only because of this videos!!

ASX sparks joy yet again.

I know the title is obviously a clear enough warning to those who haven't watched Season 5, but opening the video with THAT scene just made me laugh out loud

Here,waiting for the mystery knight vídeo just as for a certain book that hasn't come out in 10 years.

I just finished watching the episode 10, saw this video and thought; "uhmm, why does ASX is uploading this, the season is not done yet.... Or is it? Oh god!".

maybe they were just following the books but i've been willing myself to keep liking this show for the past two seasons. it feels like all we've done this season is watch Naomi struggle to escape from one ship or another, Drummer struggle with her angst and Bobbie and Alex sit and look at screens in the razorback. it does't feel exciting anymore.

@Fangtorn

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but so much happened this season it's insane.

@mrdynamitehee

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fangtorn Mm. I spent more than ten minutes in ep 8 alone watching Naomi test every single wire on her ship to see which one was transmitting the false message. That’s it. That really doesn’t feel like any sort of ‘insane’ pace at all. Alex has contributed so little as a character I honestly get surprised when we cut back to him, unmoved, still staring at the razorback screen, still waiting for something to happen. It’s a little ironic the show got worse with more money from Amazon. It’s not a bad show at all, per se. But, given what came before in seasons 1-3, I won’t miss it as I once might have when it finishes next season.

@Fangtorn

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrdynamitehee Um, Alex failed to reconcile with his ex, helped Bobbie uncover a Martian conspiracy, warned Holden Marco had Martian ships, boarded and destroyed a Belter ship, and died saving Naomi. If that's contributing little as a character I think you have a pretty unfair standard. As for Naomi, her actions on the Chetzemoka are meant to be repetitive to communicate how desperate and gruelling her struggle is and her own determination. I don't know, you can think what you like but your complaints seem pretty silly to me.

@CarrotConsumer

3 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way but not because nothing happens. A lot happens, it just feels like filler. Teasing us with alien stuff for many seasons then going back to solar system politics is jarring.

@mrdynamitehee

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fangtorn yeah. things that are 'meant to be repetitive' don't become more exciting - or even interesting - to watch because repetition was the intention. And, you're right, anyone can think what they like. To me, citing boring, long repetitive sequences to prove how 'exciting' the show has become compared to before seems pretty dumb and fanboyishly unaware to me.

The book sounds so much more awesome than season 5 of the show, which kind of dragged. Bobbie riding a missile? Holy shit!

@BeCurieUs

3 жыл бұрын

Book 5 felt a little more like old, deep sci fi. It forces you to dwell and really think about the colossal powers at play here, humans just killed billions of each other, evil gods like beings are awakening, and a power vacuum looks to snuff the flame of humanity right out...and told through the lens of characters we know and only kinda know.

@lanceeverett5108

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think both show and book have their merits, but the whole season I was like "When is Bobby going to ride a missile?" - Although Frankie Adams is awesome bringing Bobby to life; the books had Bobby doing a lot more (imo)

@josephde-haan1074

3 жыл бұрын

Nemesis Games is one of my 3 favourite of the series.

@BeCurieUs

3 жыл бұрын

This thread has had me thinking about how the evolution of the books and the show kind of reminds me of Spore and the phases and order of magnitude difference in concerns. Or maybe more like One Punch, where every season is one more tier up the threat ladder. I mean, of course, that is how all long term things go, always gotta be raising the stakes. But some people are going to like different parts of that for different reasons. My friend always talked about how MOST people hate the later seasons of Buffy, but those are her favorite because they are a big, hot mess. Anyway, nothing to add per say, just had me thinking all day today about how and what it is I enjoy about the sci fi I consume :D

@METALFREAK03

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeCurieUs Spore also (on the wiki) wrote "books" like how the Expanse all started (in a web chat) It was luck that brought Expanse to this place but also perseverance as after the webchat they continued writing. Whilst, with our group, we just sort of stopped.

2:11 The show does mention that 17 ships have disappeared at the beginning of the season but they don't revisit this until Duarte's ship is vaporized.

@otm646

2 жыл бұрын

I interpreted that mention very differently. I read that as there was no way to contact those systems. As in communications were down, or something like New Terra occured where things went totally sideways. Either their colonies fell apart organically, or some protomolecule/ancient tech was too blame.

I haven't clicked this fast on a video in my life!!!

Who here watched the ending of The Expanse Season 5 and didn't really know what was going on with the protomolecule and the Martians ? and that weird ship ? more questions than answers. Cannot wait for Season 6.

@altshiftx7495

3 жыл бұрын

We explain that stuff in this video! kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5mLm6pvdNG4l6Q.html

@davedogge2280

3 жыл бұрын

@@altshiftx7495 I sorta guessed in the show that the Martians who made a deal with Marco suddenly got killed by weird aliens or a weird weapon but why exactly, I don't know. I didn't catch in your video what that weird alien ship was shown in the end credits and by that Martian scientist that seemed to be on a ring world planet with that same weird ship in the sky, the one who was communicating with the Maritians that did a deal with Marco. It was really late at night and maybe I wasn't the sharpest tool in the box as I was tired. Is that alien ship, a ship that was carrying the protomolecule and had somehow been altered by it ?

@ammararran4916

3 жыл бұрын

@@davedogge2280 a faction within Mars has gone rogue and made a deal with Marco to start a war in sole system with the inners (Mars and earth) and get the last active protomolecule in exchange of ships and weapons. all that is to occupy Mars and earth in war while this Martian faction goes to a System (Laconia) and start a new Empire. in this new System there is an alien ship and artifacts belong to the Builders of the ring gates but they were deactivated. that's why they needed the protomolecule to reactivate everything just like in new Terra in season 4.

@ammararran4916

3 жыл бұрын

@@davedogge2280 about the what happend to the ship of Sauveterre. no one knows (yet). there were many mentions of ships "going dutchman". many of these ships were smuggled to Laconia but there were also ships that ready disappeared. in season 4 Okoye entered what is called the void bullet (big black ball) and she saw some weird stuff there. what happend with the disappeared ships is similar. from holden we know that the Ring builders where killed by other beings using this thing (the void bullet). now these "beings" are responsible for the disappearing of the ships.

@davedogge2280

3 жыл бұрын

@@ammararran4916 I think it seems a long time since i've seen 'weird' in The Expanse with Miller and the effects of the protomolecule and so I've forgotten that real weird can happen.

@Alt Shift X - 01:40 - That sounds like paradise right now ...

I love the books . The authors build a galaxy and fill it with fascinating characters. I have watched 2 seasons of the show and they do a good job. Another series called the commonwealth written by Alan Dean Foster is really good to. Start with the Pip and Flinx books if interested.

Best season so far!

Thank you for saving my sanity, I had read book 5 a while ago so its fuzzy, but when I watched the finally I was shouting Alex doesn't fucking die here!

I wish Alt Shift X could cover Full Metal Alchemist:Brotherhood. I feel like there is a lot of lore, theories and complex characters and ideas that ASX could do well.

most underrated show ever. right next to homeland and the tudors

@sirboast9531

3 жыл бұрын

The books are way better

@IanM92

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirboast9531 I’m reading the first one now. So far Shed has no personality in the books. In the shoe, with only 4 episode appearances he had way more personality. I also heard Ashford is far better in the show too

@sirboast9531

3 жыл бұрын

@@IanM92 some personality's are better in the books some in the show. But overall the books are better especialy the later books. It's kind of game of thrones where the first season they really sticked by the books but later on they make their own story's merch story's and shorten them.

Just want to say that while the Barkeith is the only ship we SEE go missing in S5, there is a line in S5E2 during the UN council meeting where they talk about 'discrepancies in the numbers of colony ships transiting the Rings,' which I can only assume is alluding to them getting eaten by the angry rave specters.

@ribhuhooja3137

3 жыл бұрын

"Angry rave specters" Lol

Having Clarissa pop up like a Jack In a box to literally scare Alex to death would be hilarious

I wish they hand’t killed Fred Johnson this season-I liked Chad Coleman’s portrayal of him. And I truly hope that Bull does not become the Roci pilot in season 6. Clarissa’s a pilot-maybe she could increase her piloting skills and take that role!

@ArithonUK

3 жыл бұрын

Clarissa's sister Juliette Mau was the pilot, Clarissa's an engineer. She'll join the Roci if they follow the books, but Bobby is the most likely character to be added to the Roci crew to replace Alex, since Alex's character was written out because of the sexual assault allegations against Cas Anvar.

@termitreter6545

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArithonUK Bobby isnt a pilot either, though.

@diopap1529

3 жыл бұрын

Bull's ark is perfect in the books, i hope they dont fuck with it.

4:35 : One of the things I disliked in this season is what Johnson did with the Protomolecule: He took the single most dangerous substance known to man, and instead of shooting it off in a missile on a trajectory only he knew about, or hiding it somewhere in the Oort cloud or something.....he hides it under the mattress of his bed in his room on the station?!?!

@LoneBrowncoat

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, worst hiding place ever! The one place all Moms look.