Negative Surfer Is Now INSANE! Gold Conquest Marvel Snap
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Today's OTA patch was WILD and is sure to greatly shake up the meta game! One of the decks that I think will now be a front runner in consistently slamming crazy amounts of power is Negative Silver Surfer. This list was surprising enough before to do well, however it always missed just a little something to be truly strong. That is where 3/2 magik now comes in! She's now much easier to play and helps stall for time to get your key resources while also not taking away from the possible 3 cost card options that you have.
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0:00 Intro
2:12 Game 1 - Match 1 (Bounce)
6:11 Game 1 - Match 2 (Bounce)
10:26 Game 2 - Match 1 (Zabu Sera Power and Counter)
13:20 Game 2 - Match 2 (Zabu Sera Power and Counter)
16:07 Game 2 - Match 3 (Zabu Sera Power and Counter)
19:02 Game 2 - Match 4 (Zabu Sera Power and Counter)
23:04 Game 2 - Match 5 (Zabu Sera Power and Counter)
27:00 Game 3 - Match 1 (Hela Apoc Discard)
29:05 Game 3 - Match 2 (Hela Apoc Discard)
33:38 Game 3 - Match 3 (Hela Apoc Discard)
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Archetype - Negative
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More Negative decks please. Need those other versions you mentioned. Thanks for sharing so quickly!
@tomekk.1889
Жыл бұрын
One of your best decks to be honestm it's so fun. I've never seen negative surfer before
Incredible, I always love your out of the meta decks that still are so good! Thanks for your work and your videos man. Love and my best support
Just used ur deck, and after losing round of silver conquest. I gave it another shot. I got an infinite ticket. It has a weakness to high evo decks if ur not high rolling, but it was pretty good vs everyone else so far. Even rogue came in clutch stealing a big knull that I was also able to mystique Update I went on a win streak and now I have 3 infinite tickets
Awesome deck! I’m loving it. I’m glad the new Magik change makes negative surfer so playable now and much more consistent. Got my first gold ticket this season from this! Thank you for the amazing content and keep up the great work!!
The Magik OTA change in very fun. With the cards coming in September for the Loki season (I know things are subject to change, but based on what’s been leaked) Mr.Negative is gonna be everywhere. Glad to see you having fun him in a more midrange tempo style deck rather than a greedy one.
Finally Mr Negative is coming back to TLSG channel. Never getting bored watching Mr Negative deck. I myself hesitate to play Negative decks on ladder or on conquest. But maybe I'm' gonna give it a shot. Thank you so much for the content. Team Basket are really happy btw lol
Magik is going to be everywhere so I imagine people are gonna be playing Scarlet Witch and Storm more than ever. I know I will in my efforts to steal some cubes.
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Magik at 3 cost is so flexible. Even being able to just do magik + other cheap cards on 5 feel so much better. And if you save it until T5 you're still protecting yourself from SM lockout plays. I think this was a great nudge to build up some extra location cards in your deck leading into Legion releasing next week!
@RobWestTV
Жыл бұрын
@@TLSGMarvelSnap Agreed. Super excited to see how this meta develops. Gonna be a crazy time for Snap.
@ThallesHGB
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, so I started to play Sandman deck, Magneto/aero GG
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Sandman will be painful. It matches into some well so we might see an increase in popularity!
@smartpatrick8690
Жыл бұрын
@@TLSGMarvelSnaphave you seen what they have been doing lately and what Lamby has been cooking? Things like spider man into Zola and stuff
Watched this video 2 hours ago and started playing it shortly after. At infinite I’ve had 8 mirror matches already. Great video and fun deck.
I love how fun and wild this deck is. One thing I’ve really tested too is Sera Bounce and it feels very good as well. My only losses sadly were to crap locations (I had Deaths Domain AND sanctum type of stuff)
Excellent video, excellent strategies, love the analysis along the way.
great content! love the conquest matches!
This deck is so insane, just got back to back infinity tickets. Love your content!
Thx for uploading this. So many of my opponents are now playing this in Conquest.
@auronk9191
11 ай бұрын
This negative deck has really caught on, for better or worse. It's now all I'm facing in Ranked, not just in Conquest.
good stuff as always. the puns were extra powerful today.
Three gold tickets so far, thank you for reviving one of my favorite archetypes.
Playing a similar version of this deck with dazzler in the spot of Wolfsbane and a Sera in place of Bast. I feel like even if you lose a bit of power by not including Bast, you gain a lot of consistency, and can switch into a Sera Surfer gameplan when you don't play Negative. Plus I really think that Dazzler is really slept on in this style of decks: she gets massive most of the times and people don't really expecy you to be able to catch up on locations in which you seem pretty far behid. I also like that Mystique becomes a lot more versitile: you have basically 3 good targets to copy (Iron Man, Dazzler, Wong) and 2 situationally good targets to copy (Sera when you have a turn 7, and Zabu when you really have to squeeze in a Wong on turn 6/7). I was also considering a Hit Monkey version of the deck, but I don't really know which card you would want to cut. The thing that I like about my version is that it feels much more consistent even without negative, so I'm happy to forego a bit of power. Other than that, pretty clean list
I love that just after finishing this video, I got matched with 3 people using this deck. Cosmo and Enchantress got me some cubes. XD
that magik variant on your thumbnail is sick.
Nice comeback against that Sera deck, well played
Sir This cook is fantastic. It's so much. Having a blast and gaining so many cubes.
Loved the dad joke in the beginning lol
youve gotten so much better at speaking fluidly and naturally. i am enjoying your content again as ive come back to the game. i dont mean this in a negative way, but im surprised how little you utilized lukes bar game 1. potentially couldve basted for free in some places, or used surfer instead of other plays for higher total power. i think for sure bast was better than floating on turn 6
So much fun! Love these kind of decks.
Your humor & Dad jokes get me every time 😃😄
I really enjoyed playing Magik decks myself, but stopped because of Storms and Wandas and other cards... but today it hit me, because she's (3) now, she is technically a viable counter to Storm now :D Also - always a fan of Negative decks, I just never really had luck with them... wish me luck with this one :D (also I would normally swap Rogue at current Meta, buuut... I want to play her too :D )
Always the best commentaries! Love the channel
Mr Negative's unwritten ability: Remain in your deck until the end of the game
TLSG, MY MAN!!!! I appreciate the daily videos😎
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you being here to enjoy them!
After running into a brick wall with all my silver tickets, I just went a perfect 6 games total in gold conquest with this deck. (each opponent conceded after game 2) Thanks for sharing this deck list!
Deck looks like lots of fun. I've been liking Psylocke over Zabu in my Negative wong build, though I'm not sure which is correct.
I'm enjoying the puns while at the same time punishing your opponents, keep them coming!
dang I really love this list
Hard to know if Psylocke should be included or not for consistency
Very very punny! lol great content as always!
Any replacement for Zabu, Mystique and Wong?
I have seen of version of this deck with ironlad instead of negative .
This deck is terrifying when it goes off!
I want to share my incredible luck on 3 conquest games with this. 1st against galctus/nimrod/goblins,I think probably the worst match up with this deck,Lost 10-0 2nd against High evo/wave,Lost on the final match on a 50/50 with a 24 Power Hulk 3rd was Phoenix/multiple man/destroy,opponent got the multiple man combo on 4 of 5 games.Final show down was a Nexus game where i had negative on 3,x mansion triggered,opponent got yondu that discarded inverted iron man. PC Is out of the Window now.
Was that "but it is naut enough" intentional? I barely caught it lmao.
best games I've had w/ Mister Negative deck
As always I came for the great Snap plays, stayed for the constant dad jokes
My favorite use from Magic is Cerebro 2. Can’t stress how frequently I draw Cerebro or Mystique on turn 7.
@Narcissistic_Penguin
Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, I just used this deck (sunspot as I don't have bast :( ) against a c2 deck, I won but only just, it was a really good conquest game. No HE bullshit in sight
Not my Iron lad version, but yey, negative! I know I'll have fun this patch :D
The pun at the beginning 🌬
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
This one is full of puns. I guess I was feeling a little extra punny today :O
That Dad joke was just wong man, just wong
Heck yeah. This one looks juicy.
Deck is so fun, so nice to outpower a Hela deck!
Everywhere I go, I see this deck
Just a question, why have zabu when you can only reduce 2 cards. Isn't psylocke better to play more cards if not on curve?
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Zabu is easier to play on 2 in anticipation of a potential top deck even if you don't have one in hand with psylocke it's a guessing game. I know some people prefer psylocke in that slot though!
negative surfer has been my go to deck since hit monkey's release. now there's more 3 cost cards to join the party
@forceofwillhk
Жыл бұрын
my version runs sera. i guess she can be replaced by magick now
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I had fun toying around with negative surfer last season, but it always felt like it was just a tiny bit off of being consistent. I think the magik addition and not having to play her on 5 opens up so much flexibility for the deck.
Finally snap supports my type of deck
Psylocke for negative consistency?
OMG that thumbnail 😮
I didn’t realise you were in cypress hill because damn you’re INSANE in the marvel snap brain 🧠
Finally a deck that I have all the cards for 😭🙏
so glad negative is more viable now. Ive always liked that playstyle
Everyone ia uaing counters ao its really hard to get it going... Scarlett Witch, Storm, Echo, Enchantress, Cosmo, Rogue are everywhere...
Used this deck as soon as the patch hit. Unfortunately I ran into 3 silver surfer decks with shadow king in a row. Yes Shadow king reverts the cards back to their base and ruins the entire deck
Wouldn’t lockjaw be good in this?
Your version is better than Cozy's in my opinion. This is fun.
hey man i rly enjoy ur dad jokes keep em coming HAHAHAHAHAA
Hey good deck! Maybe change the Rogue to Sera? Seems better
I'm not sure what exactly it was about this OTA, but everything just feels really good to play with right now. Been enjoying experimenting with everything! 😊
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Yes! They changed so many cards in meaningful ways without killing them that it all feels exciting to experiment with! We don't have 1 deck absolutely running the meta so it feels like a fresh season now where everyone is brewing and experimenting and I'm loving it!
Magik is a 3 cost now?
I wish they would release Mephisto already
Cerebro 2 is gonna be crazy running magik and storm so you never know if theres actually a turn 7
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
And with the addition of spiderham! Ooo C2 sounds pretty nice!
I was stuck at ~82 for a week and a half, and this got me to my first infinite in 3 days. Thank you so much for this!
This deck is actually really good and I’m usually hesitant when people say there deck is the best but it actually works well and catch’s people off guard
@tomekk.1889
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's like SUPER good. Seems like a better sera surfer to me
I swear I've gone up against this deck in conquest gold 2/3 times, and man is this deck tough to beat
Do you think that this deck would be too affected by changing Zabu with Psylocke? i'm only missing Zabu and this seems to sweet to not try out.
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
I think it would be a fine change! There's a few scenarios where you'll lose the extra 1 cost reduction on wong normally making him 1 if hit with negative, but overall I think the core deck would be unphased!
Basket cam babyyyyyy
22:00 Why not just slam Wolfsbane into Nexus and Silver Surfer into Monster Island?
You should try a Sera Surfer deck with monkey
NegaSurfer has been amazing for a long time and has gotten me to infinite the past few months - but the Magik BUFF is just *Chefs kiss*. However, I would switch out Rogue for another absolutely essential game winning card. I won't share that secret spice with you tho. Thanks for showcasing one of the more fun and flexible decks!
@FeaturingDantefromDevilMayCry
Жыл бұрын
All right then, keep your secrets
@IvoHarrisIII
Жыл бұрын
Killmonger?
@Kibernizzle
Жыл бұрын
@@IvoHarrisIII Nah
@levih7326
Жыл бұрын
the tHeCrEt ThPiThE
@Kibernizzle
Жыл бұрын
@@levih7326 hehe that's exactly how I say it
Yes on paper, but in reality like all negative decks it suffers greatly at the hand of locations and board space, you're often skipping turns that get prof x or spiderman which are heavy in meta right now. And if you don't hit negative then boy... Good luck!!
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
SM and Prof X aren't as big of an issue with this deck as others since it has two ways to put extra power into those locations after they're locked (Surfer and Iron heart). Not hitting negative is tough, but you still put a decent amount of power out in those scenarios with wong, iron man, mystique, and surfer/IH. Hitting negative is a HUGE high roll, but most of my wins are from later or no negative.
"Sometimes it'll be the Wong one..." stay Daddin 😎
Love negatove and i missed him here! Also said for my girl Kitty :c and Monkey
I've been out of the game for a good few months & still haven't picked up Bast. Is Psylocke a good replacement for more ramp into Negative? Can't wait for Bast to put into my negative lists though, definitely looks like a solid fall-back option if you draw badly.
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Yep Psylocke would be perfect! Negative on 3 is so insanely strong with a few good draws! You lose out on some of the power (6 if you hit iron man, 4 for hitting negative, etc) so it takes away some of the midrange of your game plan, but the highroll is a bit more consistent!
Wong seems really important to your strategy. Have you considered replacing Bast with Echo?
@ydgmdlu
Жыл бұрын
Echo is just overall worse. Its only purpose is to prevent Cosmo, so if your opponent is not running Cosmo or doesn't draw it, then it's completely useless. Echo doesn't protect Wong from Enchantress and Rogue, which are probably more common than Cosmo because of Luke Cage and High Evolutionary. And as this video shows, it also doesn't stop Magneto from pulling Wong away. But not only does Echo do nothing for Wong most of the time, it actually makes your Wong lane worse because you give up a space that you could use for Mystique, Iron Heart, Wolfsbane, Silver Surfer, etc. If you were an avid Wong player, you would know to keep the Wong lane as open as possible. ECHO IS A NOOB TRAP!!! I'm sorry but suggesting Echo for a Negative Wong list is brain-dead. Bast gives you extra stats, most importantly for Iron Man. Why sacrifice those stats for a card that does nothing most of the time?
@IvoHarrisIII
Жыл бұрын
I'd only run echo with destroy to protect from armor and Cosmo just shutting you down
@levih7326
Жыл бұрын
@@ydgmdluDo you feel better about yourself yet?
@LeMayJoseph
Жыл бұрын
@@levih7326 seriously. What a dick answer.
Didnt they break the inverted 3 drops not being buffed by surfer last patch, are the fixed now
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
They pushed an OTA change last week that fixed the killmonger bug and a lot of the cost craziness that was happening! Inverted works as intended now!
1:38 😂😂
I got Infinite with this deck the past two seasons.
Silver Surfer kind of got his comic treatment. Classic Silver Surfer is far stronger than the current one, just like how old Marvel SNAP Silver Surfer is stronger than the current version.
Do you think this deck would work well on ladder?
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
I do! It doesn't solely rely on getting negative to win, but when you do PHEW your power is through the roof. Locations like storm aren't as big of an issue since you can buff it later with Surfer or iron heart to get the extra reach you need.
@MarkMeans
Жыл бұрын
@@TLSGMarvelSnap I'm going to give it a shot as it looks like a lot of fun if nothing else. Thank you!
@MarkMeans
Жыл бұрын
@@TLSGMarvelSnap Just as an update, I took this very deck from 79 yesterday to Infinite today. It certainly can climb :) Thanks again!
Now Cozy made a surfer deck so everyone will be running this now 😂 gg
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Did his have hit monkey and sera? I ran into that earlier!
@exdee__
Жыл бұрын
@@TLSGMarvelSnap yup exactly that, nothing Destroy can't handle 🤝
With which card can I replace Bast?
making a Wong joke is sometimes the wight choice
Welp, I’ve been playing negative surfer since we got the Mr. negative bundle back in February. Now everyone is playing this deck because of the video😭
What card can I run if I don't have Zabu?
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Psylocke works well! You don't get the extra reduction from an inverted wong, but it still allows you to ramp into a T3 negative if you have it
36:50. Im sorry, but Idk why you didnt Suffer left.
*GOD HAND* timestamp 23:06 💫 31:50 🤯
Wong wong
Doesn’t work for me. Not enough powerful, not enough counters.
This deck is absolutely disgusting. Took it on a fully conquest gauntlet and did not drop a game.
day 2 of puppy gang 🐶 🐕
I already know storm players are gonna ruin the fun
@TLSGMarvelSnap
Жыл бұрын
Maybe we ruin the storm players fun now by changing the flooded locations :)
What's with the occasional zoom in? It's unnecessary.
This deck just doesn't work for me full stop. I've tried every variation of Negative. The card fucking hates me. I just played 6 games. 1 single fucking negative that entire time. Coincidently the only game I won (SHOCKER). I got Surfer 2 times in those same 6 games. I'm at the point I just loathe this fucking card. I can never get it to work for me. I can win with every deck in the game except Negative. It's the most frustrating thing I've dealt with since I started delaying SNAP. I just don't get it.
@MrTouchstone86
Жыл бұрын
Update...I have calmed down. 10 games total. 2 Negatives played by turn 4. 2 drawn on turn 6. It's fun watching people have fun...but it's just not fun for me. Moving on :)
@davidbunter3757
Жыл бұрын
If you have the cards, have you tried this? # (2) Psylocke # (2) Zabu # (3) Mystique # (3) Thor # (4) Mister Negative # (4) Jubilee # (4) Iron Lad # (5) Iron Man # (5) Black Panther # (5) Jane Foster Mighty Thor # (6) Arnim Zola # (6) Knull # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQXJuaW1ab2xhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbGFja1BhbnRoZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlphYnUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1yTmVnYXRpdmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Iklyb25NYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlBzeWxvY2tlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJLbnVsbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSnViaWxlZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTXlzdGlxdWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Iklyb25MYWQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkphbmVGb3N0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlRob3IifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap. This deck is better for ladder than used for conquest because it can put out a lot of power and suprise people but isn't consistent enough. Zabu and Psylocke to hopefully ramp into negative on 3. Jane to pull your 4 inverted targets iron man, mystique, Arnim Zola and knull. Iron lad and jubilee are more opportunities to hit a negative or a Jane, after your deck is inverted. Thor is there as a backup plan and the obvious synergy with Jane. Black panther and Zola can also help you go wide and win games.
Could you please delete this video. I don’t want anyone else to know about this deck! I just tried it and won all 7 matches 😵