Let us know your thoughts on the BMW M1000RR

@wanderer54796

3 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up for the bike and Thumbs up for the Review. I am waiting for your team' s bruce Dunns performance testing. wish to see 0-60, 0- 100, 0-124, quarter mile and top speed test figures

@number1Schumacherfan

3 жыл бұрын

When quoting the 205 vs 209 HP figures I am assuming that is at the rear wheel correct? Both bikes should make more than that just based on engine output I would think.

@650ib

3 жыл бұрын

I love it!

@lordgibbness

3 жыл бұрын

@@number1Schumacherfan at the crank

@christopheralonge7758

3 жыл бұрын

The 2015/2016 BMW s 1000 rr. . I have owned 32 litrebikes over years. ALL the gixxers all the generation ZX 10r all of the R1. And I feel the 2015/2016 s 1000rr has no equal

The greatest bike reviewer of all times , Mr Neeves !! I agree this bike is for race teams . The average guy will still be happy with a M sport S1000RR..

8:55 An ex F1 aerodynamic engineer (cant remember his youtube channel) once modeled the race fins on the front of motorcycles, and found that actually the fins tend to have a bigger impact on the rear traction than the front surprisingly. What happens is, the fins create a vortex, which in turn makes the air at the back of the bike not separate, creating downforce. He used a pretty generic motorcycle model, so I am not sure how much of this would carry over to superbikes, but it seemed quite interesting.

to sum up: the better buy is the S1000RR with full race suspension, full titanium exhaust, air filter and stage 2 flash and slicks/warmers or Q4s. More power, better handling, money left over for track days!

@george.ptauner7767

3 жыл бұрын

That's what i did

@thedrifter8641

3 жыл бұрын

And if you do the same to M1000 it would be much better than full blown s1000

@JohnSmithExtra

3 жыл бұрын

@@thedrifter8641 Hell yea! M1K FTW!

@MotoBeemer

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Or just get that 05 GSXR so when it goes cartwheeling down the track you don't worry about it. But yea, looking at the S 1000 RR as well.

@ssrsuspension8247

3 жыл бұрын

S1000RR In SSTK trim set the lap record for SSTK1000 at BSB Round #1 a few weeks back...

I just checked my money box and I'm about £31 grand short :D

@22Epic

3 жыл бұрын

Take a loan.

@MrStr8den

3 жыл бұрын

Haha... I'm £12.68 cr.!

@cityspawn1326

3 жыл бұрын

With that superbike price in term short of money it's not worth it... Its better you just buy the new yamaha r7 or with the money you have just buy a house

@sl077766

3 жыл бұрын

@@cityspawn1326 In reality, it's a BMW so I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole (world's most unreliable bike brand).

@stefanocioni2587

2 жыл бұрын

@@sl077766 lol I bet you have never owned a car or a bike BMW - so reliable it’s ridiculous

Great review once again, thank you!

Thanks for the most informative assessment without being bias.

Amazing review as always!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent review as ever totally honest and to the point 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌👍😁

Great review, great bike. Priced for the collector in the future. Look at values of first gen M series cars.

brilliant analysis from Michael as always - honest and direct. best motojournalist on the planet.

nice review as always

You're one of my top three favorite motorcycle reviewers.

Thanks for that honest review.

I am 63 and have not ridden a sport bike in 10 years.... I was so glad to hear him say that it is hard to turn the bike wide open... my 2022 s1000rr m while pretty smooth and not lifting the wheel too much is a LOT to get used to! I have KTEC thru rods and their better shock on the way. I did the ti pipe and one of those 250 dollar air filter a couple of weeks ago... So far I love but I am really scared of it.

Hey, see you've got my old Harada replica helmet on top of the toolbox. Loved that lid, and went perfect with my old purple Zxr750 in the 90's.

Loving the Tetsuya Harada lid,

Thank you.

I think its delightful - if rather expensive. I have heard one with a full system on it, and the competition pack, close to £38,000. wonderful sound when you get the CAT out of the mix. Another wonderful Neevesy video.

As always, effortless Neevesy is the best!

Still love my 2016 RR - still a brilliant bike 30,000km later!!

As ever a great informative review. Like the underslung rear brake calliper so the pads don’t drop out when doing a fast race wheel change: goo detail. That said 31k and then strip it back to basic and rebuild with quality bits and bobs! BMW are having a laugh 😀

It was interesting to FINALLY learn some of the practical track day drawbacks of the S1000RR model when you mention what is different (like endo on brakes etc). And thanks for the honest assessment. Does help.

Excellent review, @Neevesy you mentioned that you do coaching at Ron Haslam, but now that they are closed, where is your coaching done ?

I turned the wings on my m1000rr upside down and gained some lift and the wheels lifted off the ground giving me an extra 2 seconds a lap

That dude can ride...!

I got the racetec k3 on my 2020 BMW s1000rr m! My buddy has the same bike came with a different set of tires than mine though which surprised both of us! Both brand new!

@MRR-qv3bw

3 жыл бұрын

I would of never paid attention if they didn't feel so different than mine while they are cold! I literally almost dropped his bike leaving out the driveway, IT WOKE THE SPHINCTER RIGHT UP LOL

Its a shame they stepped away from the HP4's carbon frame, but I understand that they probably wanted crash survivability. However it is rather odd that you pay so much only to get beeffier internals and wings. Like you say it really doesn't add up. I would hope there might some additional factory support or rebuild options at that price point otherwise get the bog standard bike do the internals yourself get CF bits from Alpha RAcing and put a trick suspension on and you got the same bike for less....

Can you do this comparison on the 2023M vs S? If you did already sorry I missed have missed that video.

What a perfect review!

i am excited to join the BMW family. Even though super remote hahaha. Getting a Mini SE with BMW i3 motor

Hi Neevesy, i am having trouble operating the lap timer and wondered if you could help. Trying to use the flasher to trigger, i am in racepro mode (timer showing) and trigger test to manual. It works but will not increment past lap #1 and is not saving the laps (ie no delta laps air best). My BMW dealer cant help.

Love the track bit, just wish the key wasn't blocking the speedo

The thing is beautiful... I'd love to ride one

For once i totally agree with what you say ;) Could the fact it has alot of feel and feedback be because it has no ddc? Thats my personal opnion

Hi I love your videos. Can you just explain what you mean by "if you tune the hell out of s1000rr, it just breaks"? That really concerns me as a future s1krr buyer

order on processing.

Me: I should get an M 1000 RR. Also me: watches this video "I should get an S 1000 RR." Also Also Me: I wonder if I can superglue winglets to standard bodywork.

I would kill to see a 1000cc inline 6 S1000. It would sound sooo goood.

Fantastic video, really appreciate your honest and objective reviews!

@motorcyclenewsdotcom

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The best motorcycles reviews just by mcn

@LifeOnTwoWheels

3 жыл бұрын

That would be bike world

Best motorcycle journo in the country

@davidpersson986

3 жыл бұрын

In the Word imo!!

And here I thought this presenter rode naked bikes on the weekends and maybe an adventure bike. Dude is a menace on track wow.

Very good video thanks,had a 2017,a nd a 2020 1000rr now have a 1000xr which I will keep. at 75 years old if I can ride the M1000rr and I can get a deal the kids inheritance will be gone.

Difference between m rr and hp4 plz brother.

Now I understand why somebody offer for my S 1000 RR M package 34K. I have everything in my bike including Akrapovic full system. What is your opinion? sell mine and buy the M1000RR 2021?

Does it make sense to daily driver this bike? Why?

先日のWSBKを見て思ったよ 今年のBMWには期待できるとね 👍

Bike should have got Manual Ohlins, Brembo Brakes, Should have been a Track only Machine like the HP4 Race

Sat down, grabbed a cup of tea and 4-6 bikkies and enjoyed

🤘🏻

The more you say no the more we say YESSSSSS.....LMAOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome bike only needs a full system and a flash if you buy it for the road, The 1 thing against new BMW m1000rr is the price of a almost new but very slightly used s1000rr m sport, on auto trader it seems like no1 rides them as the normal mileage is below 3000 miles and most have less than 1500 for less than the price of a new base s1000rr, Probably not a better top end bike to buy used than this,

was that an Aprilia on your horizons

This should be closer to the last Race with carbon fiber frame and clip-on race controls etc. pity.

Would pick the m1000 anyday..

Was than an RSV4-X that neevesy walked past on the track?

Seems a missed opportunity compared HP4 Race which seemed to ooze bling, class and desirability.

@mudddge

3 жыл бұрын

No comparison

@lonpfrb

3 жыл бұрын

HP4 to beat Superlegera, M1000 to win races, eventually.

Well said👍🏻👍🏻Its a bike for the race teams yet some people buy it for street fun lol 😂

@andresantel2137

2 жыл бұрын

I just don't see why people would spend this much on a M1000RR if they're just goin to do daily driving on it. S1000RR is just the better option for everyday use

It’s time to go back to in-line 4. Yeah… the smoothness and high reving engine is actually easier to exit corner.

@Woopy11

2 жыл бұрын

Not just Titanium valves but also Con rods! Woohoo super fast reving

No motorcycle is worth that much money, but while there are patients who pay so much for motorcycles, we ordinary mortals can no longer buy a normal motorcycle at a normal price. Now, various patients will say how much a race car costs, like, it's the same. I've been on motorcycles all my life, but what's too much is too much.

I might have misunderstood but you mentioned that tuning the S1000RR makes it likely to break?

@paulhope3401

Жыл бұрын

The more power you pull out of anything thats already highly strung/tuned.. the less reliable it will become.

Listen to that motor sing!

Over 30K...... I had to double check the date on this video because I thought it might have been an April Fool's Joke.

Basically… you need to be a race team to make this worthwhile.

Like their cars, over inflated price for new.

@michaelarchangel1163

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and likely to explode when trying to best the ZX10 crowd. Also, the colour scheme looks like a tart's window box.

For even more money you can get an un painted swing arm. :-). Sums this up really.

it costs almost 110k dollars in my country lol.

Every one else offer in this price point Paint scheme while BMW give you stickers - really

Perfect explanation of the bike's characteristics...I'm so disappointed about this bike and the S1000RR in general. I'll still pick up a regular M package S1000rr someday and just mod it out but definitely not the M1000RR...it seems its just silly to pay that much for the same basic S1000RR..

@650ib

3 жыл бұрын

It's not the same

@motoken

3 жыл бұрын

@@650ib yeah not the same engine.

@JohnSmithExtra

3 жыл бұрын

@@motoken It's really not the same bike, lots of go fast stuff in the M over the S. IF you don't go fast, the go fast stuff won't do anything for you so stick with the S, much cheaper.

@motoken

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmithExtra hmm yeah, I can definitely go fast enough on the cheaper one. I can be honest with myself.

@JohnSmithExtra

3 жыл бұрын

@@motoken Definitely, so I wouldn't be so disappoint on the M. M isn't for everyone it's only built for FIM Homolugation. We're just lucky we can buy one if we wanted too. Compared to homolugated GT cars, 37k USD is CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and you know this bike will get good MPG on the streets comapred to Aprilia/Ducati! It's perfect! With Cruise control and heated grips and a spectacular dash with bluetooth integration to your phone!!!!!!!!!!1 Ridicules, all for only 37k and comes with CF Wheels!

Not a biker but an M fan. And I will buy the m1000rr just to sit next to the e30 m3 dtm car

Just got to throw £50,000 worth of Alpha Racing parts on it and you will have a base level WSBK bike.

I am going to die if BMW doesn't start racing in Moto GP. Its like torture seeing all the BMW sponsorship around the sport with no BMW team.

Seems absurd they would roll out a bike at that price and not put some premium rearsets and levers on it. It really is just a platform for race teams.

@BTrain-is8ch

3 жыл бұрын

I'd be annoyed if manufacturers started throwing street bling on homologation bikes. You pay for the race version of the engine and chassis. Ditch the street bling and spend the budget on the chassis and engine because that's what the people that will buy the 500 units BMW actually has to sell care about. Don't even bother painting the thing because the bodywork is going in a box anyway.

@JpOcDenver

3 жыл бұрын

That’s EXACTLY what it is. I don’t know why people can’t accept that. IT’S NOT FOR YOU.

@JohnSmithExtra

3 жыл бұрын

Get the competition package, it comes with everything! The regular one is for poor folks who want the M! Or for folks that will change everything anyway and just want the cheaper M to start with.

Anyone else get a little scared watching the on bike footage?!

10'000$ wings ...lol

This is a lecture about how you’re not as fast as someone with $50k or more. Get your game organized and hire a racing team already. Anything else is too slow.

@JohnSmithExtra

3 жыл бұрын

That's right, love it! haha

The unpainted swinger 'weighs less' and 'looks trick'? LOL the nineties called from their bagphone and said you took some bad drugs.

That makes your hair stand on end..

BMW is so ahead of the competition on the streets with the normale S1000RR M, that the M1000RR is just too boring. What a world we live in :)

I like this bike ! But the "paint scheme" doesn't make it look good IMHO

Superleggera V4 R.............. Ducati

last two minutes is track porn.

Don't like cars at all. I consider them to be obstacles, and dangers, on the road. I really think that there shouldn't be a crossover at all. We're not all speed freaks.

CBR1000RR is the best ask JOHN_M....:)

Rich boys toy

31 grand! M is not that extraordinary. Other bikes are equally or more better. Marketing team have created a great imprint in people's mind to justify the price.

@ronr6605

3 жыл бұрын

well, 4 a duc superleggera u can get 3 of that m's or a lovely house at the country side... ;)

Please, don't do the off-camera shots, it is horrible fad that will pass soon. It really distracts from your excellent content. I enjoy your videos, although I am still far from getting a bike again.

@allnighterist

3 жыл бұрын

its their channel they can do whatever editing they want, you dont like it? you dont have to watch, they not forcing you to, infact no one is.

@vlastikb

3 жыл бұрын

@@allnighterist I believe that the owners of this channel have full freedom and creative control of the editing process that was not impeded in any way by me expressing my opinion on one specific trend observed in this video. I unreservedly appologise for forcing you to respond to my comment that wasn't neither meant nor addressed to you. However, if you feel so passionate about the need to fight for people that cannot control their situation and well-being, consider donating to Doctors Without Borders, please. The link is for your convenience here -> msf.org.uk/

@wayfaringstrangerreviewer6458

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 you smashed it bruv 😂😂

@wayfaringstrangerreviewer6458

3 жыл бұрын

Opinions are like arseholes everyone one has got one 😂😂😂

@allnighterist

3 жыл бұрын

@@vlastikb sorry man im not gonna read that long ass essay of yours but whatever works for you hope you well.

this isnt special enough to be a collector's item, compared to ducati and honda bmw have no grand history to be special to begin with, design and parts are not on par with ducati's, its just an inline 4, but at least this bike's technology is top of the line latest tech. the real collector bmw bike is the hp4.

In great colours? Really? Probably the one thing BMW hasn’t mastered imho. I mean take a look at some. I know it’s about product familiarity and history but could it be more subtle? I think so.

Hang on...let me get this right,...you have to pay more for an unpainted swing arm 🤔🤔?? WTF !!!...BMW = Bring More Wonga....bloody shocking 😳!

BMW does not win or compete well in major series.

Looks a little cheap, won’t age well..

Buy it second hand after some fools taken he depreciation out of it.