Need Of Religion In Today's Time | Javed Akhtar | Makarand Paranjape | Shoma Chaudhury |

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In 21st century, what is the role and need of religion? When two minds as brilliant as Javed Akhtar and Makarand Paranjape sit down to discuss this, it surely becomes one of the most interesting conversations.
Javed & Makrand dive deep into their own thoughts and beliefs of religion and faith. With this, they also dive into the realms of dharma and spirituality. While one is against religion, the other is a staunch believer of it, while one stands by logic and reasoning, the other believes in the existence of dharma and quantum physics. While there are two such different people on the panel, the conversation goes in all the directions it can.
This session was recorded at IFP 12.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
3:57 - Javed Sahab Is Against Religion
4:43 - What Is Faith?
6:05 - Faith & Stupidity is Same?
6:18 - Problem of Religions
7:05 - What is The Distinction Between Dharma & Religion?
8:01 - Religions are Not The Same
10:28 - Complicated Word - Spirituality
10:53 - Is There Any Hierarchy in Religions?
13:00 - India Has Pluralism
14:25 - What Is Dharma?
16:36 - Belief in Religions
17:03 - What is Conscious Mind?
18:11 - What Is Spiritualism?
20:43 - Believing in The Religion & Spiritualism
25:21 - Who needs Religion?
26:42 - Religion & Politics
27:42 - Hindutva And It's Loss
28:55 - Can Religion Be Good & Bad?
30:38 - Against Purdah, Hijaab, & Triple Talaq
31:37 - Meaning of The Word 'Religion'
33:00 - Sholay & Religion
33:55 - What is The Strength Of Our Country?
35:10 - God is Santa For Adults
36:03 - Sanatani Accords
38:39 - Role of Religion
41:13 - Debate Over Manusmriti, & Mughals
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  • @razhusain2298
    @razhusain22982 ай бұрын

    I feel a lot of people who are making negative comments are afflicted with some kind of religion.

  • @PramodKumar-gy8lb

    @PramodKumar-gy8lb

    2 ай бұрын

    Atheism is a very honest position. Faith is bs.

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    Ай бұрын

    You included. Secular materialism is a fringe religious movement that is supposed to be an alternative to traditional religion but fails to answer a simple yet self-destructive moral dilemma, the 'IS-OUGHT' problem.

  • @ankitBhartiya2

    @ankitBhartiya2

    Ай бұрын

    Victim Card Everywhere. 😅

  • @richcohen5936

    @richcohen5936

    Ай бұрын

    @@ankitBhartiya2 Lol when that guy was whining about getting screwed by Akbar, that's not victim card?? If beta males were not able to protect, they should just accept then they were weak then by your argument. You want to have the cake and eat it too...How RIDICULOUS!!!

  • @swapnilshivhare31

    @swapnilshivhare31

    19 күн бұрын

    Well, I am an atheist, and i believe that we don't need to have debates around faith. Forget religion its a Western concept. Reason being people have full right to pursue and believe whatever faith they want, there isno point in demeaning some ideas because they do not match yours. This is called antitheism not atheism. It's like those orthodox preachers who flock the roads saying that join my religion. A lil more extremism and you become communist. In fact, if we further take it to extreme level, there could be antitheist terrorists.

  • @rizwankhan-pz8eb
    @rizwankhan-pz8eb3 ай бұрын

    Beliefs and faith By questioning.. Caves and trees.... Javed sahab in opening statement itself heavier than professor sahab whole statements

  • @civilwala02

    @civilwala02

    13 сағат бұрын

    😂😂😂 The whole life of Javed lives like atheists, and punishment of atheism is death in islam. Read your Quoran. Wine drinkers Javed

  • @neetakarnik331
    @neetakarnik3312 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar rocks. All fluffy, all big words cannot hide the truth and reality of adharma.

  • @ayushisharma162

    @ayushisharma162

    Ай бұрын

    Ja na bhai

  • @xadrez1348

    @xadrez1348

    19 күн бұрын

    Twko bhi samaza nahi hoga sach batao 😂​@@ayushisharma162

  • @horizonrainbow6899

    @horizonrainbow6899

    3 күн бұрын

    All are religions and all are same then he cleverly flips and wants Hindus not to be like semantics😂 what a rationality

  • @bharatveermahan7931

    @bharatveermahan7931

    17 сағат бұрын

    You don’t have the ability to comprehend what MP has said.

  • @bharatveermahan7931

    @bharatveermahan7931

    17 сағат бұрын

    It is not your fault though. I this age where superficiality is at its peak, people take things at face value without trying to get deeper into the matter. If God exists, it’s sensible to accept that to u der stand HIM you will need to make an effort

  • @anujsingh4771
    @anujsingh47712 ай бұрын

    JAVED AKHTAR is a real Liberal and secular Man.

  • @Astrophile2345

    @Astrophile2345

    Ай бұрын

    I think he is in the middle ground between liberal and conservative ideologies , atleast better than being at the extremes of both sides.

  • @shiva4ever

    @shiva4ever

    Ай бұрын

    No he isn't....he is merely promoting his own credentials egotistically.....there is so much he hides....he talks of the impermissibility of Sholay today and cleverly shoves films like PK under the carpet.....totally agenda driven

  • @minhazali4090

    @minhazali4090

    Ай бұрын

    ​@shiva4ever Only after PK , he realised the Sholay scene could not be done today .

  • @sourav232

    @sourav232

    Ай бұрын

    he is a katmulla... what he is doing is known as Al-taqqaiyya

  • @RLP90Gdpy-qv8jt

    @RLP90Gdpy-qv8jt

    Ай бұрын

    ​and you 😂😂😂

  • @parshusaki1763
    @parshusaki17633 ай бұрын

    Javed has made an accurate point in saying that we can't be selective. Rightly so!

  • @MrVish6666

    @MrVish6666

    3 ай бұрын

    javed is an old bozo

  • @neverEndingvoid525

    @neverEndingvoid525

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@MrVish6666and so is your mother and father ? But you don't see us complaining about it 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @JASIRORBOY

    @JASIRORBOY

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@neverEndingvoid525 you can't complain about his parents because they are not setting narrative in public meetings like javed. At least think before writing this kind of statement 🤦

  • @doncharted

    @doncharted

    Ай бұрын

    ​@JASIRORBOY who set the vague precedent that someone having or not having a platform decides whether or not it's okay to call someone "an old bozo"

  • @doncharted

    @doncharted

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@MrVish6666yet his brain is younger and more dynamic than yours

  • @ShaneCallum
    @ShaneCallum3 ай бұрын

    I am a christian but sorry Indic religions and Middle Eastern religions are not the same. Fundamental outlook towards the world is different thereby the outcome. Abrahamic religions at the basic are rule driven, which is why you can quantify the tangibles in these societies. Indic religions on the other hand are fundamentally not rule based. Which is why there are so many sects within Indic religions. So I agree with Makrans for not falling for Javed’s trap

  • @rabinderkoul1577

    @rabinderkoul1577

    3 ай бұрын

    India does not even has the concept of religion.

  • @sivaramanmudaliar9728

    @sivaramanmudaliar9728

    3 ай бұрын

    Baloney & crap . Shankaracharya, the high priest of Sanatana, said there are shanmatas, ie, 6 religions & called them Soura, Shaktya, Shaiva, Kourmarya,Ganapatya & Vaishnava . Besides , he also wrote in Soundarya Lahari about Dravida. If Dravida was a mere geographical denomination, he , as somebody born in today's Kerala, would have called himself also as a Dravida

  • @faizan_farooqui

    @faizan_farooqui

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't know why Christians pretend as if Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) was not from the middle East?

  • @muhammadalikhan7605

    @muhammadalikhan7605

    3 ай бұрын

    absolutely right. In Islam rules are defined by God.. We cannot ignore divine rules depending upon the time era

  • @arnoldschwarzenigga2268

    @arnoldschwarzenigga2268

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@muhammadalikhan7605 We don't consider your rules divine, we consider them evil.

  • @user-qr6xg1tl7i
    @user-qr6xg1tl7i2 ай бұрын

    Mr Javed Akhtar is not only a great poet but a great scholar too.His views are subtle and as authentic he is loved for his liberal views all over the world. Salute to u jenab Javed Bhai u r an integrated personality we all respect n love u.Mr Javid bai makrand is shifting from one point to another and is not certain & clear what he says.

  • @Marsalllll

    @Marsalllll

    Ай бұрын

    India’s gdp may have been high at the time but the per capita income was the poorest most of the money was sent to ottomans, Mecca and the like Aurangzeb destroyed entire agricultural regions by stampede with horses resulting in millions of death due to famine

  • @dr.ishratullahkhan158

    @dr.ishratullahkhan158

    Ай бұрын

    Makrand's toung runs into wheels.

  • @zenturtle_1
    @zenturtle_12 ай бұрын

    No religion, only humanism ❤

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    2 ай бұрын

    Define "humanism" and "religion" on your worldview

  • @mayankindian3750

    @mayankindian3750

    2 ай бұрын

    Humanism ko bhi define Kar de bhai

  • @dhrbolai

    @dhrbolai

    2 ай бұрын

    No isms

  • @user-fm7ok7pn6y

    @user-fm7ok7pn6y

    2 ай бұрын

    You are mad

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dhrbolai any worldview with its presuppositions is an "ism"

  • @sandeepsingh-fj2ff
    @sandeepsingh-fj2ff3 ай бұрын

    Seriously Javed sir nailed it. Other debater's should prepare well. Speaking difficult words does not make any impression. So, Be simple and connect to the audience, do not speak to himself.

  • @user-cj3oj6xg7w

    @user-cj3oj6xg7w

    3 ай бұрын

    That's limitation of your mind Mr MAN SINGH

  • @user-pm4jo5uz4r

    @user-pm4jo5uz4r

    3 ай бұрын

    is there a faceoff between muslim believer vs javed, and javed is bashing off quran and hadith. First try to Clean your house and community.

  • @surenderkumarmahto1055

    @surenderkumarmahto1055

    14 күн бұрын

    अच्छे प्रोफेसर को समझने के लिए दिमाग चाहिए । एक शायर तुमको फिलासफी नही समझा सकता । तुम वही सुनना चाहते हो, जो तुम्हारे दिमाग में फिल्म वालो ने भर दिया है ।

  • @youthwave
    @youthwave3 ай бұрын

    Prof. Makarand's points are highly rational. A healthy discussion enriches mind.

  • @AmarkantVishwakarma

    @AmarkantVishwakarma

    3 ай бұрын

    Do you believe in casteism? Do you support intercaste marriage?

  • @youthwave

    @youthwave

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AmarkantVishwakarma Yes. Individual is more important than invisible caste tag.

  • @youthwave

    @youthwave

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AmarkantVishwakarma No.

  • @ExposeSkyMonkey

    @ExposeSkyMonkey

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@AmarkantVishwakarmathey won't do intercaste marriage 😂😂

  • @shanblues7257

    @shanblues7257

    3 ай бұрын

    I would like to know how does a carpet have consciousness. Secondly, does Hinduism not believe in one or multiple Gods who are very powerful and very nice beings? So, doesn't that make it alike other religions as to the presence of a God and since Javed considers it irrational, it does make Hinduism irrational too, isn't it? Third, Manu Smriti has beautiful verses. But so do Quran and Bible. But does it negate the presence of bad verses?

  • @shubhamombale
    @shubhamombale3 ай бұрын

    Prof. Marakand is missing the theme of the debate here and is giving it a Hindu vs Muslim angle stating Hinduism is better while Javed Akhtar is condemning both the religions.

  • @curious_one1156

    @curious_one1156

    2 ай бұрын

    That was his entire agenda. He is a snake.

  • @razhusain2298

    @razhusain2298

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely correct.

  • @user-bx3sx9gt8b

    @user-bx3sx9gt8b

    2 ай бұрын

    Am Hindu agnostic and your right ,

  • @zirmilekunal8120

    @zirmilekunal8120

    2 ай бұрын

    This type of prof. having brain in tha ass

  • @rj23lolwa

    @rj23lolwa

    2 ай бұрын

    theres nothing called hinduism, hes just trying to say indian traditions are different from what religion is.

  • @edaljhaveri2414
    @edaljhaveri24142 ай бұрын

    Wow, I feel Javedji is just superb, when makarandji was speaking, I was having the same impression that this man is somehow trying in vain to cover up and then when Javedji comes, he is so bang on and accurate. Just loved it 👍

  • @Azazel-zo1gx

    @Azazel-zo1gx

    2 ай бұрын

    Javed does gave cognitive inconsistencies and manipulatuing facts which makrand doesn't

  • @muskanustad3834

    @muskanustad3834

    5 күн бұрын

    ​@@Azazel-zo1gx or markand don't have any facts to speak out?

  • @bharatveermahan7931

    @bharatveermahan7931

    16 сағат бұрын

    Ignorance is bliss

  • @Azazel-zo1gx

    @Azazel-zo1gx

    16 сағат бұрын

    @muskanustad3834 yeah if you are deaf and dumb

  • @soiwas
    @soiwas3 ай бұрын

    WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CUTS IN THIS ????? WE WANT AN UNCUT VERSION OF THIS PLEASE !

  • @Narendersingh-id5ng

    @Narendersingh-id5ng

    3 ай бұрын

    Markand ka gala katwana hai kya bhai

  • @hgangwar41

    @hgangwar41

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I was about to watch it. But due to the CUT thing I'm gonna leave this without watching and disliking as well.

  • @RT-oz3lg

    @RT-oz3lg

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Narendersingh-id5ng 😂

  • @nyayendar

    @nyayendar

    3 ай бұрын

    Because RSS and DHONG r synonyms

  • @Human-xz2gr

    @Human-xz2gr

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar has very shallow knowledge and he talks nonsence. India was already rich before the Islamic invaders came. In fact only because of its wealth the invaders wanted to be here and plunder it.

  • @Ram-gy1yv
    @Ram-gy1yv3 ай бұрын

    Is it debate or reel? Why anchor cutting both in every 2minute without clear explanation? No use of such kind of thing if not proper debate

  • @TedoR2011

    @TedoR2011

    2 ай бұрын

    U think you're better 😅

  • @seinundschein
    @seinundscheinАй бұрын

    Interestingly Makarand Paranjape didn’t even once mention Ambedkarite Buddhism which truly challenges the theology of Hinduism. In his book “Buddha and his Dhamma” Babasaheb has also challenged the monotheistic religions (christianity, judaism, islam) because man doesn’t need the belief of god to be good to another man. Hinduism cannot claim this social morality (being good to fellow being) because it fundamentally believes in the inequality of the caste system.

  • @opqaw

    @opqaw

    Ай бұрын

    lol, Neo-buddhism has NO connection with real buddhism.

  • @angshumanpodder4415
    @angshumanpodder44152 ай бұрын

    Logic and faith can coexist. Consider the great Ramunajam for example. Unfortunately, that has not been perpetuated as we have a singular view of which should be more powerful. We should all remember: Logic appeals to the cognitive mind, faith appeals to the emotional mind.

  • @VivekD-td5xc
    @VivekD-td5xc3 ай бұрын

    Makrand, you shouldn’t be debating with people who do not share the same level of learning and understanding as yourself. Javed himself said at the beginning, albeit deprecatingly, that he did not understand 75% of what you said. But then this is so true even when you take away the sarcasm from his statement. While concluding too, he said that you were speaking to the wrong person. That’s again so true, though not in the sense Javed imagines.

  • @knightspygaming1287

    @knightspygaming1287

    Ай бұрын

    Bcoz spiritual/DHARMA/Religion are semantics theists making or trying to derive something more than thier religion to fool ppls through concepts like Dharma and spirituals

  • @jhunuj6243
    @jhunuj62433 ай бұрын

    For Hindus central scriptures are Upanishads and Gita but not Manu Smriti.

  • @adityanjsg99

    @adityanjsg99

    3 ай бұрын

    Manu means law giver. They change from time to time. Stuti means facts, smriti is all about interpretation

  • @brahm-ahamasmi

    @brahm-ahamasmi

    3 ай бұрын

    For Hindus, there are no "Central" scriptures. Every Hindu can choose what to believe and there is a huge diversity.

  • @jhunuj6243

    @jhunuj6243

    3 ай бұрын

    @@brahm-ahamasmi we r people of vedic civilization. Essence of Vedas is captured in Upanishads and encapsulated in Bhagwat Gita. Bharat was a vast country from Afghanistan to Indonesia. Many people have written many things. Only those portions are to be accepted which are in agreement with Upanishads and Gita and rest not to be considered.

  • @rrao7963

    @rrao7963

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@jhunuj6243rightly said

  • @sumitkumawat8996

    @sumitkumawat8996

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jhunuj6243So basically whatever is written in few books becomes the final word for us ? So we have our final book(s) just like abrahmic religions ? I am not against your point of view and wont say you are wrong , maybe you are right and maybe someone else is, just want to explore what you have written a bit more.

  • @Thinkwithme-mt8lu
    @Thinkwithme-mt8luАй бұрын

    India needs people like Javed Akhtar,he is the true unbiased atheist i have ever seen.

  • @p4umce
    @p4umce3 ай бұрын

    Akbar did not translate Ramayana and Mahabharata into European languages, it was Dara Shikho, Shah Jahan's son who was slaughtered by Aurangzeb.

  • @SWAMISWAMI-ie5gf

    @SWAMISWAMI-ie5gf

    3 ай бұрын

    Abdul Qadir Badauni translated the Ramayaṇa and the Mahabharata and many Sanskrit tales and the Hindu epics in Persian in accordance with the wishes of Akbar

  • @omieyadav638

    @omieyadav638

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@SWAMISWAMI-ie5gf true

  • @Inthemoment3674

    @Inthemoment3674

    2 ай бұрын

    Dara shikoh converted bhagwat gita and upnishads in Persian not ramayana

  • @manavchoton

    @manavchoton

    Ай бұрын

    Oye illiterate.. It was Akbar who commissioned for its translation.. And only after that came with the idea of din e elahi😂😂😂.. Sanghi better get your facts in place

  • @asadmech12

    @asadmech12

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@MarsalllllI am a student of history. Can you please provide some scholarly references to your claims?

  • @pavitraaprashant2175
    @pavitraaprashant21753 ай бұрын

    Basically Javed is saying that hindus should tolerate the abuses and also wants hindus to ask muslims to become like them all expectations from hindus but he has no.guts to ask muslims that why they can't tolerate Taslima and Salman rushdie😊

  • @Human-xz2gr

    @Human-xz2gr

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed is ashamed of his religion. But he has a big ego to accept that Dharma is much superior concept than majhab.

  • @user-wb8vl8li8z

    @user-wb8vl8li8z

    3 ай бұрын

    A section of hindus are intolerant at this point of time

  • @curious_one1156

    @curious_one1156

    2 ай бұрын

    He did not say that. Once.

  • @murn3229

    @murn3229

    2 ай бұрын

    basically you're stupid.

  • @pavitraaprashant2175

    @pavitraaprashant2175

    2 ай бұрын

    @Human-xz2gr That's the hypocracy and in urdu it's munafiqat which is taught them in their mazaa hub

  • @chamansingh3657
    @chamansingh36572 ай бұрын

    He has not replied about dalit issues.

  • @karthikshettyable
    @karthikshettyable2 ай бұрын

    We don't need religions. We need to follow dharma. Live a just and peaceful life

  • @sandeepkumar6240

    @sandeepkumar6240

    21 күн бұрын

    Muslim religion and brahman(mainly upper caste) destroyed akhand bharat, culture philosophy and all indian orgin religion. One gave peaceful mazhab and afjal com in the world and second give caste system,cruptio and shrest caste in indian ocean claim himself meritdhari, even they don't know the currectt history,economics,basic philosophy,psychology,civilization. Both give ganga jamuni tahjeeb and oppoesd womenright,killed, Torchered, physically and mentally many year on year If you read ambedkar ji in detail and watch exmuslim channel.

  • @sohampatel-bm7gt
    @sohampatel-bm7gt3 ай бұрын

    The baisness of the host is quite evident. Makarand point was cut cleverly at various intervals. He is making very correct point.

  • @rayzimmerman6740

    @rayzimmerman6740

    3 ай бұрын

    baisness.???...very cooect point??? get an education to start - then opine.

  • @Human-xz2gr

    @Human-xz2gr

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rayzimmerman6740 Javed Akhtar has very shallow knowledge and he talks nonsence. India was already rich before the Islamic invaders came. In fact only because of its wealth the invaders wanted to be here and plunder it.

  • @anandanmathivanan4712

    @anandanmathivanan4712

    3 ай бұрын

    Cut has been inflicted in Makarands speech because he is trying to propogate one religion.

  • @sainikpraveen

    @sainikpraveen

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@anandanmathivanan4712not all religions are same. Islam is an expansionary religion with force and hiduism is not. So clearly one is better than the other. When speaking on these facts, people want to get offended and not allow one to speak. What good is this debate then? You will only allow to speak those who agree with your view? Is that the intolerance you are imbibing from Islam?

  • @Insaniyat980

    @Insaniyat980

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar is ashamed of his religion and other abrahmic religions because they are based on dogmas and want their followers to blindly believe in their illogical theories and doctrines. So he calls himself an Atheist. But t at the same time he is egoistic and doesn't want to understand the beauty of Sanatan Dharm which implores a human to be a seeker, and promotes to seek truth with its philosophical logical knowledge. In Sanatan dharm karma is main thing which a human should perform. Javed Akhtar is either foolish not to understand the difference between religion (majhab) and Dharm or he is cunning enough to obfuscate peoples mind by bundling both as same.

  • @rochakkhandelwal7135
    @rochakkhandelwal71353 ай бұрын

    Hi. Can you please upload the uncut version?

  • @sandeeprevankar2252
    @sandeeprevankar22522 ай бұрын

    engaging discussion ....what i can gather after listening is our founding fathers knew all this too well and crafted a constitution which can be a real guiding principle ....

  • @veganuma
    @veganuma3 ай бұрын

    Love for Javed Sir. Salute to you for your rational😊 thoughts

  • @sagarjoshi8444
    @sagarjoshi84443 ай бұрын

    34:02 When javed saab said "hindus should not behave like muslims" , he himself is saying majahab is different than dharma. So javed saheb doesnt know what he is talking

  • @sabinmasahary2225

    @sabinmasahary2225

    3 ай бұрын

    Deep down inside Javed akhtar is a follower of Professor Makarand. The mediator was like what's wrong with him. Instead if contradicting why is he agreeing with the Prof. Let me change the topic to Hindutva and Hinduism.

  • @whatsgood7840

    @whatsgood7840

    3 ай бұрын

    Hindus historically have been very different from Muslims. But this doesn't mean Hinduism as a religion is any better than Islam as a religion. It is also filled with useless rituals and made up laws and discrimination, just like other religions. But yes, Hindus have historically not acted so dogmatic and violent as Muslims. This doesn't mean their religion makes more sense. The good thing about Hindus is they have allowed people to even disagree with their central scriptures, but even in this they are admitting that their scriptures also have some questionable things.

  • @cracked8349

    @cracked8349

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@whatsgood7840as an atheist true can't even argue with muslim folks

  • @JoJo-hj4tx

    @JoJo-hj4tx

    3 ай бұрын

    That right wing professor couldn't understand javed sahab point that all religions are the same because as you can see any country doesn't matter from which religion they have following but whenever they choose religion instead of secularism they have totally been vanished like iraq iran Afghanistan pakistan Even if you go to india before democracy then you can easily find out beautiful sati pratha breast tax child marriages devadasi niyog etc etc even you can compare current india from 20 years old India then 20 years old india was much progressive than the current india just because of religious politics

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JoJo-hj4tx you have absolutely no understanding of how power structures work and why certain countries are sanctioned for having a different perspective or outlook on life.

  • @abhishek-kumar100
    @abhishek-kumar1003 ай бұрын

    Makarand, you were fabulous!!

  • @Dhanan-J

    @Dhanan-J

    3 ай бұрын

    how ?

  • @amitkolhe4155

    @amitkolhe4155

    3 ай бұрын

    Makrand was highly stupid and lousy. Felt like listening to some aboriginee blabbering after getting high on Marijuana. How did this guy become a professor? Such low quality arguments and no intelligence !

  • @faruqsha6456

    @faruqsha6456

    3 ай бұрын

    He himself don't know😂​@@Dhanan-J

  • @shobhitsaxena948
    @shobhitsaxena9483 ай бұрын

    It was a very healthy and enlightening discussion. A wise person is one who takes valuable ideas from both the speakers without being biased.

  • @rabinderkoul1577

    @rabinderkoul1577

    2 ай бұрын

    To be wise and find wisdom, one needs to be at least educated. Javed is not and you indicate that you are neither.

  • @shobhitsaxena948

    @shobhitsaxena948

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rabinderkoul1577 I don't understand what made you feel like I'm not educated. I'm an MBBS graduate and a practicing medical officer. Even if you don't fully agree with someone, they can teach you valuable things.

  • @deepsareen1

    @deepsareen1

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rabinderkoul1577 To say what you said; without knowing a person, is surely lack of education.

  • @rabinderkoul1577

    @rabinderkoul1577

    2 ай бұрын

    @@deepsareen1 One does not have to know a person completely. The Comments on the public forum on specific topic exposes the person about how educated, a person is ona specific issue. If you cannot figure this much, I pity the Schools and teachers who educated you.

  • @smiklkhan8162
    @smiklkhan81622 ай бұрын

    When you have chosen such an intense topic with thinking beautiful minds, one thing you should have assured that their voice reaches us !!!

  • @beenasingh3316
    @beenasingh33163 ай бұрын

    ❤makarand Paranjape you have just established our feelings so well. Shoma could not discipline him 😂

  • @JoJo-hj4tx

    @JoJo-hj4tx

    3 ай бұрын

    That right wing professor couldn't understand javed sahab point that all religions are the same because as you can see any country doesn't matter from which religion they have following but whenever they choose religion instead of secularism they have totally been vanished like iraq iran Afghanistan pakistan Even if you go to india before democracy then you can easily find out beautiful sati pratha breast tax child marriages devadasi niyog etc etc even you can compare current india from 20 years old India then 20 years old india was much progressive than the current india just because of religious politics As he said there was not any words like dalit but the question is why were the aystem of upper & lower caste this is how religion evolved & extremism born for ex islam came from saudi arabia but if you see the saudi islam then you can find out shia & sunni islam but when that islam evolved in india then ahmadia islam happened even there are majority of muslims who óppose ahmadia as a muslim but the point is this is how religion evolved just like a cancer if it happened in your body then it can be grown up

  • @adithyah95

    @adithyah95

    Ай бұрын

    Are you sure? In India, secularism has come to mean advancing Islam. You can see it in Javed Akhtar’s examples of Akbar and other Mughals as secular. India didn’t go that way because of it’s strongly rooted religious traditions. Akhtar and the leftists want to deracinate Indians with ‘modern rationality’ to wipe the slate clean, so India too can go that way. In your own examples, the collapsed states are those where Islam managed to overcome the indigenous religions. Sanatana Dharma doesn’t ask for faith, it asks for logic… Akhtar’s is a straw man argument.

  • @mitrasaxena437
    @mitrasaxena4373 ай бұрын

    Hats off to Javed Sahab...for a branded Muslim to call out negatives is much more courageous...while Makarand sidelined the practice of A caste based Hindu society ...in all the thousands of years ...between the Vedic times and ....after

  • @ibrahimabdullah6886

    @ibrahimabdullah6886

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said

  • @Insaniyat980

    @Insaniyat980

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar is ashamed of his religion and other abrahmic religions because they are based on dogmas and want their followers to blindly believe in their illogical theories and doctrines. So he calls himself an Atheist. But t at the same time he is egoistic and doesn't want to understand the beauty of Sanatan Dharm which implores a human to be a seeker, and promotes to seek truth with its philosophical logical knowledge. In Sanatan dharm karma is main thing which a human should perform. Javed Akhtar is either foolish not to understand the difference between religion (majhab) and Dharm or he is cunning enough to obfuscate peoples mind by bundling both as same.

  • @arvindmishra9840

    @arvindmishra9840

    3 ай бұрын

    Are you a Hindu Mitra ji?

  • @njeyasreedharan
    @njeyasreedharanАй бұрын

    Makarand really speaks the hidden truth. Unfortunately not many will listen with an open mind. Even open minds may not fully understand due to no fault of their own.

  • @muskanustad3834

    @muskanustad3834

    5 күн бұрын

    Open mind person will reject all the religions made by society

  • @deepanshsinghsolanki2516
    @deepanshsinghsolanki25162 ай бұрын

    Really great lessons!

  • @oneanuj
    @oneanuj3 ай бұрын

    At start Jawed Saab said there is no difference in religions, but at around 30 minutes. He says Hindus had elbow space that is being taken away and he tells Hindus to be not like others. This is a point to be delved into.

  • @dr-sg8xo

    @dr-sg8xo

    3 ай бұрын

    Thts because the other guy defended hinduism. He started by saying he denounced islam too. So i think ur biased

  • @Human-xz2gr

    @Human-xz2gr

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar has very shallow knowledge and he talks nonsence. India was already rich before the Islamic invaders came. In fact only because of its wealth the invaders wanted to be here and plunder it.

  • @Nietzsche_K_Gote

    @Nietzsche_K_Gote

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Human-xz2gr cute IT cell very cute

  • @Insaniyat980

    @Insaniyat980

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar is ashamed of his religion and other abrahmic religions because they are based on dogmas and want their followers to blindly believe in their illogical theories and doctrines. So he calls himself an Atheist. But t at the same time he is egoistic and doesn't want to understand the beauty of Sanatan Dharm which implores a human to be a seeker, and promotes to seek truth with its philosophical logical knowledge. In Sanatan dharm karma is main thing which a human should perform. Javed Akhtar is either foolish not to understand the difference between religion (majhab) and Dharm or he is cunning enough to obfuscate peoples mind by bundling both as same.

  • @ExposeSkyMonkey

    @ExposeSkyMonkey

    3 ай бұрын

    When Lindus can't Defend their Hinduism ! Then divert debate towards abrahamic religions 😂 Oldest Kulture strategy 😂

  • @param953
    @param9533 ай бұрын

    Quotes.: I was reminded of a quotation by the famous American physicist, Steven Weinberg, Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist. Weinberg said "Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. For good people to do bad things it takes religion

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    2 ай бұрын

    Quoting a famous personality doesn't prove anything. What is "good"? and what is "bad"? There's only "what is" on a purely nihilistic worldview because you cannot derive normativity from the fact that the world IS a certain way. Look up David Hume's 'IS-OUGHT' problem

  • @rabinderkoul1577

    @rabinderkoul1577

    2 ай бұрын

    @Paran953 Openheimer also quoted from Bhagvad Geeta and Erwin Shrodinger from Upanishads. Openheimer talked referred to Christianity and Judaism as those were the religions he was familiar with. How does that give you the license to quote him when you do not know that in what context he said it. You may want to impress the public by giving his name, but tell me what was his contribution to Physics?

  • @param953

    @param953

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rabinderkoul1577 r there any agencies to give me license what to quote ?

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@param953 what is "good" and what is "bad"?

  • @N9745H8

    @N9745H8

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jostnamane3951 The Noble Quran Surah Al-Baqarah 2:177 It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and each and every act of obedience to Allah, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masakin (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and gives the Zakat, and who fulfill their covenant when they make it, and who are As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.) in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of fighting (during the battles). Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqun (pious) This is definition of righteousness by Quran

  • @user-kr5xw8cb1r
    @user-kr5xw8cb1r3 ай бұрын

    Very interesting. Clear and concise views.

  • @anowmel
    @anowmel2 ай бұрын

    Very insightful conversation..... Both are knowledgeable 🤌🏼🙏🏼

  • @pankajsen132
    @pankajsen1323 ай бұрын

    Religion has now became a belief system when viewed through Abhrahmic lens. The Indian understanding is very different. Javed Akhtar is a convenient atheist. His movies are there to see. He talks about Akbar only because he is Muslim and not because he studied what Akbar did. That’s why Bollywood writers glorified invaders.

  • @venkataramanakotamraju9414

    @venkataramanakotamraju9414

    3 ай бұрын

    They glorified invaders because 1. They always considered the invaders as their ancestors. 2. They Got lots of money from the invaders class like Dawood and other intellectuals of same class inside and outside the country.

  • @subhajitroy3644

    @subhajitroy3644

    3 ай бұрын

    Akbar never declared himself as a Muslim. Rather he was despised by Islam as a heretic. He founded and propagated a new religious faith named Din-i-Ilahi.

  • @ChandanKumar-dw8kc

    @ChandanKumar-dw8kc

    3 ай бұрын

    @@venkataramanakotamraju94143. Petro-dollar

  • @venkataramanakotamraju9414

    @venkataramanakotamraju9414

    3 ай бұрын

    @@subhajitroy3644 doesn't matter what he called himself. He cause untold misery to Hindus. Johar happened because of him. 30000 civilians were slaughtered in one attack by him and his cruel army. He was also illiterate that he could not even read or write. What cult he has started is his own problem. Doesn't make a big difference especially when coming from a rakshas like him.

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    3 ай бұрын

    Any worldview is a belief system. That's not an argument. What is the Indian understanding you tell us? India is a land where different theological foundations with often contradictory narratives flourished alongside. Among one of those who rejected the Vedic infallibility in their times [The Nastikas] were indeed heretics. But the same heretics today are revered by many Astikas of India. You ask the question, why? Why revere the people who rejected the signs of the unseen? Is there no universal understanding of Indian philosophy? Or there's no Indian understanding to begin with and it's just an umbrella term for a set of distinct theological foundations with often contradictory narratives.

  • @TheSandeep505
    @TheSandeep5058 күн бұрын

    I see many hinduos criticizing the professor and appreciating javed saab.... Well , for them i could say only one thing, you have not read even a single book in hindu scriptures but you surely have heard the comments of alleged intellectuals of today's society. Tell me how many of you have , in reality..read the Mahabharata, the Ramacharitmanas, or any other book of Hinduism.... One of the best things i have found till date is that Hinduism never compells to cling to a particular thought or trait...., one more thing about this conversation between the two is when the former(javed saab) said about the untouchables the lattar did not get offended and kept the decency but the former became even harsher saying *behave your self* , and one last thing, do not get astonished by seeing the moderator been biased as i have seen her defending islam against sai deepak and rangnathan...

  • @satyanarayang6589
    @satyanarayang65893 ай бұрын

    Paranjape, all the way!❤

  • @curious_one1156

    @curious_one1156

    2 ай бұрын

    Javed wanted to empower you. But you are already a slave.

  • @sivaajaykumarveeranki1305
    @sivaajaykumarveeranki13052 ай бұрын

    The discussion is out of the topic mentioned but i always enjoy when javed sab is vocal

  • @Mahendra-my3us
    @Mahendra-my3us2 ай бұрын

    200%agreed with Javed Saheb

  • @mrbeyonder6081

    @mrbeyonder6081

    2 ай бұрын

    400% agreed with Markarand

  • @Theshowstopper2010
    @Theshowstopper20103 ай бұрын

    Its unfortunate that Makrand was discussing with jawed who was not ready to hear... and it was cut in between...unfortunate

  • @Human-xz2gr

    @Human-xz2gr

    3 ай бұрын

    Makrand is an intellectual and knowledgeable person. Javed is a buffoon he has very shallow knowledge.

  • @cheltooktribefreethinker1028

    @cheltooktribefreethinker1028

    3 ай бұрын

    i think makrand told to much than javad. Idk how u judges the converstions 😊. Javad sir rocks when it comes to logic and rationality

  • @Ritesh-rj1sp

    @Ritesh-rj1sp

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed is burnt because he can't embarrass Hindus like before He used to embarrass them in sholay And enjoy But he didn't know there was no social media then Now Hindus will expose his cunningness

  • @cheltooktribefreethinker1028

    @cheltooktribefreethinker1028

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Ritesh-rj1sp javad sir is the voice for voiceless ppl. Rss and isis can't stop him from speaking truth. Ya modi will wil be exposed daily. Be pity sure on it

  • @arpitagarwal4924

    @arpitagarwal4924

    3 ай бұрын

    To be real Hindu is to first take a deep dive into yourself and leave behind all the materialistic world, which people have forgotten and have become prey to the filthy politics

  • @abhisheksrivastava5633
    @abhisheksrivastava56333 ай бұрын

    I've never read Manusmriti but there are certainly objectional quotes in it that have been pointed out by many scholars. But that's the catch. I've never read Manusmriti despite being born in a Hindu family. I've never been asked to, infact nobody from my family has ever read it. Neither do we have Ramayan or Mahabharat at my home and never have I been asked to read them (However I'm interested). But this is not the case with other religions. You have to read the text, you can not condemn those books or the saying of those books. The people following those books believe all verses to be the true word of God and refuse to accept that it could have been polluted over a thousand years.

  • @N9745H8

    @N9745H8

    3 ай бұрын

    But that's not the case with Quran,today most of muslim ummah are following islam the same way as it was 1400 years ago, wordings of adhaan and namaz are same as it was 1400 years ago,Quran is not only the book of prayers,Quran encompass spiritual as well as material level of human life,eg Allah says read salaah and give zakah,means Allah orders us to do namaz and give charity,then Allah forbids interest on debt (ch 2 v 278-279 of Quran)and today we are witnessing the violation of this verse,almost all are under debts,and rich is getting richer and poor is getting poorer

  • @RohitKumar-vd3wc

    @RohitKumar-vd3wc

    2 ай бұрын

    Please do some research there are different versions of quran. Though one version is the most popular in the world.

  • @rabinderkoul1577

    @rabinderkoul1577

    2 ай бұрын

    (1) If you have not read Manusmriti, how do you know what is in it and what is not in it. (2) Is manusmritti Governing our Laws. But Muslim Personal law (Sharia) is implimented. Basically you admitted that you are ignorant of the Manusmritti but you have heard a about it many times, so it is authentic. Wow you are such a scholar.

  • @suchitabhat5051

    @suchitabhat5051

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, manusmriti is oppressive. But as is the way with sanatan, every thought, theories, ideologies were permissible. Let people decide what they identify with. For example; Rishi Charvak was a capitalist and Rishi Ashtavakra was an atheist. Yet their scriptures, theories are part of Ved. Sanatan Dharm is very inclusive in nature. 😊

  • @Muhammadkaif-jl8eb

    @Muhammadkaif-jl8eb

    2 ай бұрын

    There is only one version of Qur'an​@@RohitKumar-vd3wc

  • @KheraShanu
    @KheraShanuАй бұрын

    perfect mediator and perfect debaters! loved it!

  • @Yogamindmastery
    @Yogamindmastery10 күн бұрын

    5:10 Logic says. There is a spiritual being. People have been there. I have met them. I have felt spiritual around them. It's completely logical. Javed Akhtar has had very limited experience. 7:05 Questioning is a good thing. Confusing faith, belief, religion and spirituality is different. Spirituality doesn't belong to any religion. 11:31 Very good point Makarand Ji. 14:36 Very good point by Javed Akhtar 17:17 There are various levels of consciousness and to find and become consciousness of the entire mind is the point of meditation. 18:26 It's not slightly pregnant. It's completely with god. 19:06 Agreed. 33:15 Very good arguments. Hindu vs Hindutva 41:14 What a conclusion by Javed Sir

  • @srinivasagv6372
    @srinivasagv63723 ай бұрын

    Javed should write a scene on his own religion like he did in Sholay

  • @shrikantdange6927

    @shrikantdange6927

    3 ай бұрын

    He will not dare because money matters

  • @chinfilms2249

    @chinfilms2249

    3 ай бұрын

    You guys missed the whole point. Even after it was so evident.

  • @soulsangat3350

    @soulsangat3350

    3 ай бұрын

    He told islam is intolerant... Hindus mustn't be like Muslim.

  • @satejpatil875

    @satejpatil875

    3 ай бұрын

    You didn't understand. He said it clearly that he doesn't do so cuz he as everybody knows Islam would not accept it and all the while also accepted that Hindus are to be respected in that aspect because they are open to it. Actually even Makarand said it in his own words, if you try to reduce Hinduism to Just another dogmatic religion when it is a loss. And you my brother are trying to do the same.

  • @nadeemjsr2958

    @nadeemjsr2958

    3 ай бұрын

    U r suffering from disease called faith and fascism.

  • @prashanttyagi736
    @prashanttyagi7363 ай бұрын

    Javed sahab high level knowledge and logical thinking.

  • @user-pm4jo5uz4r

    @user-pm4jo5uz4r

    3 ай бұрын

    is there a faceoff between muslim believer vs javed, and javed is bashing off quran and hadith. First try to Clean your house and community.

  • @spuriusscapula4829

    @spuriusscapula4829

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-pm4jo5uz4r the same way you should try cleaning yours?

  • @AbhishekRaj.07
    @AbhishekRaj.072 ай бұрын

    Makarand rocks . People in comments didn't understood him .

  • @ashkumar7916
    @ashkumar79162 ай бұрын

    great javed sahib ..i 100% agree .respect and applaud your sincerety , honesty frankness .

  • @rahulkadle8240
    @rahulkadle82403 ай бұрын

    Burnol moment for Javed. Lol quite typical of his ilk. Paranjape was brilliant and kept his cool.

  • @lakshmisrinivas9454

    @lakshmisrinivas9454

    3 ай бұрын

    Totally agree 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sarveshsingh8050

    @sarveshsingh8050

    3 ай бұрын

    Bholi bhakti

  • @merebaap8370

    @merebaap8370

    3 ай бұрын

    If you could understand what he meant then you should be called Vishwaguru.😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ayush6sept09

    @ayush6sept09

    3 ай бұрын

    Pseudo secularist

  • @geonsorigin2108
    @geonsorigin21083 ай бұрын

    We don't need religion but we do need Dharma.

  • @tusharbhosle5937
    @tusharbhosle5937Ай бұрын

    Well done Mr. Paranzape 🙏

  • @KaithHanda
    @KaithHandaАй бұрын

    Good job IFP. It was worthing to spend 45 minutes. Keep uploading for the enlightenment.

  • @ivorodrigues1976
    @ivorodrigues19763 ай бұрын

    Magnificent debate. This is what India is all about. Coming together of perspective 's. Wonderful.

  • @RojaJaneman

    @RojaJaneman

    3 ай бұрын

    Wow 🤦‍♀️

  • @Insaniyat980

    @Insaniyat980

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar is ashamed of his religion and other abrahmic religions because they are based on dogmas and want their followers to blindly believe in their illogical theories and doctrines. So he calls himself an Atheist. But t at the same time he is egoistic and doesn't want to understand the beauty of Sanatan Dharm which implores a human to be a seeker, and promotes to seek truth with its philosophical logical knowledge. In Sanatan dharm karma is main thing which a human should perform. Javed Akhtar is either foolish not to understand the difference between religion (majhab) and Dharm or he is cunning enough to obfuscate peoples mind by bundling both as same.

  • @ivorodrigues1976

    @ivorodrigues1976

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Insaniyat980 Religion is a very personal matter dear. They are just debating their personal views. In the end to each their own. What is important is that we allow each other the space to grow through our own experiences. This is the essence of mostly every other religion.What do you think ?

  • @bluesparrow10
    @bluesparrow103 ай бұрын

    Makrand sir rocked❤

  • @namratadavda4545

    @namratadavda4545

    Ай бұрын

    U understood what he said???

  • @positivelife7633
    @positivelife76332 ай бұрын

    Makrand is talking realistically, he doesn't answer questions straight away, while he certainly can

  • @user-gd4wt6oi7y
    @user-gd4wt6oi7y2 ай бұрын

    Aesthetic sensibilities in art architecture is a totally different matter in conversing heritages, and it shows that what kind of human minds existed steeped in crafts skills no more today.

  • @DharmendraRaiMindMap
    @DharmendraRaiMindMap3 ай бұрын

    Rationality offers a serenity most humans never experience

  • @NaRc0s_G

    @NaRc0s_G

    3 ай бұрын

    You can be a Rationalist and still believe there is a Creator and Pray to it for whatever reason. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive. In fact, stating out right there can't be a creator, (it can be a he or she or even a it) is actually Irrational. Don't you think ?

  • @DharmendraRaiMindMap

    @DharmendraRaiMindMap

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@NaRc0s_G it is rational to believe there may be a creator and proof would be welcome

  • @DharmendraRaiMindMap

    @DharmendraRaiMindMap

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@NaRc0s_Gstating there can't be a creator is an irrational statement

  • @NaRc0s_G

    @NaRc0s_G

    3 ай бұрын

    @@DharmendraRaiMindMap "stating there can't be a creator is an irrational statement". Yes that's what I am saying, These dumbos who call themselves as "Atheists" are not actually Atheists, they are anti-theist. If someone wants to be to Scientifically correct/ rational, they should instead say, they don't even know if they is a God or Not, they can never know. There is word for it, it's called being Agnostic. And when it comes to topic like, Existence of God/creator of this Universe, these so called Atheist are as dumb as people who say God exists. That's what the other speaker what was trying to say, unlike other religion, Hinduism is not actually a religion, it's a collection of philosophies to lead your life. You may either believe in God, you may not, both are welcomed in Hinduism. There isn't one book you have to follow, there are many, just discard the bad things and all you are left with is philosophies which will help you better your life. That's what Hinduism is all about. There are philosophies, just select what you like, discard everything else. There is no blasphemy, because Hinduism is not even a religion in the first place. Would love to know, where you beg to differ ?

  • @ashwinkhambadkone394

    @ashwinkhambadkone394

    3 ай бұрын

    Look at the pseudo rational Akhtar foaming in his mouth

  • @indermohansinghmalhotra3730
    @indermohansinghmalhotra37303 ай бұрын

    It was a marvelous public discussion between a highly trained intellectual & a natural one with intrinsic intellect & many gifts. "Thank you", to the chanel, the hosts, the debaters & to the brilliant, extraordinary anchor! 🙏😊 My question: why is the program truncated midway 🤷? Why hasn't it been allowed to conclude in a civilized way?

  • @jhunuj6243

    @jhunuj6243

    3 ай бұрын

    What was so marvelous. J behaved as illiterate

  • @ChildFirst

    @ChildFirst

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed lacks Knowledge of History and So about Spirituality within Dharma, also... He is somewhat toxicological. Moderator is partial towards Makrand and diplomatically manipulative, Moderator are not to give his/her view by interrupting in between. Makrand is a professor whereas Javed is not a researcher and if a person is Communist/Leftist/Atheist can never pick books to read & learn about Dharma within indic religion and for the sake Chinese Philosopher/Dhamra as well. Javed is also using his age to manipulate the debate and reactive with rage/anger.

  • @TheAaryanQ

    @TheAaryanQ

    3 ай бұрын

    i was there and it's supposed to be a 50 min session it was a part of IFP and upcoming sessions and guests were lined up, maybe eth host could have been more strict with javed but ofcourse when such a big perosnity involved you kind of want to give em a few mins leeway for power diffference, i remember javed juvenielly threatening that he come to this annual festival again next year if he isnt given last word despite him being given ample time, this was not the sole even and this is when a thinker develops rationalist enough ego to touch on narcisism, i am saying all this despite bieng a fan of javed and an agnostic myself

  • @Human-xz2gr

    @Human-xz2gr

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar has very shallow knowledge and he talks nonsence. India was already rich before the Islamic invaders came. In fact only because of its wealth the invaders wanted to be here and plunder it.

  • @Insaniyat980

    @Insaniyat980

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed Akhtar is ashamed of his religion and other abrahmic religions because they are based on dogmas and want their followers to blindly believe in their illogical theories and doctrines. So he calls himself an Atheist. But t at the same time he is egoistic and doesn't want to understand the beauty of Sanatan Dharm which implores a human to be a seeker, and promotes to seek truth with its philosophical logical knowledge. In Sanatan dharm karma is main thing which a human should perform. Javed Akhtar is either foolish not to understand the difference between religion (majhab) and Dharm or he is cunning enough to obfuscate peoples mind by bundling both as same.

  • @devbhoomi776
    @devbhoomi7762 ай бұрын

    Markand ji Pranam. Very clear thoughts about our society. We have pluralism and everyone has their Kuldevta and Istadevta and it doesn't mean we worship them blindly. It means there is something about their personality that we admire/epitomise and revere. Believe in whatever you want or don't believe in anything. Honestly as a practicing Hindu, we don't care if there is a religion or no religion for all we care, as long as they are governed by aCommon law on what are Do's and Dont's in the land and it should be followed by all with NO exceptions... which is again nothing but Dharma. Lets accept that there are good and bad in every community. And it is the duty of civilised and civic community to mentor their community reward them for good and punish / condemn them for anything wrong. Don't come on streets and justify the wrong things done by your community, by playing the minority victim card. The tragedy of Hindu community is they have been taught to tolerate everything even rapes and murders. And Islamists are being empowered to show aggression for everything, My way or High way. Thus far and NO further.

  • @laxminarayan-vg7ms
    @laxminarayan-vg7ms2 ай бұрын

    Jab kabhi bhi javed sir ko sunnte hai( lisen) hai . Aur bhi naye tarike se rational,logical human bann jate hai So thanks sir❤

  • @user-qf8yj5me5r
    @user-qf8yj5me5r3 ай бұрын

    Hats off to Makrand sir.......

  • @shinybhat5854

    @shinybhat5854

    3 ай бұрын

    Very polite and well read real spritual person not like fake people like the anchor and screaming Javed

  • @Dhanan-J

    @Dhanan-J

    3 ай бұрын

    why ?

  • @singhkaushlendra9
    @singhkaushlendra93 ай бұрын

    Beautifully debated by Dr Makarand paranjpe sir. I respect Javed sahab but he is really unaware of many historical facts about mughal. He himself said don't become others. What remains to debate after that.

  • @sunitboden6339
    @sunitboden63392 ай бұрын

    Javed u r best!!

  • @aishimondal8101
    @aishimondal81013 ай бұрын

    Pls upload the full uncut unedited version ,,, pls exercise 'the right to be informed ' in its entirety

  • @RakeshGhangas
    @RakeshGhangas3 ай бұрын

    Kudos to Javed Sahab 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @avgb2115
    @avgb21152 ай бұрын

    That's the power of a Rational Atheist... The One liners coming from the clarity of mind just destroys debris of Religious irrationality.

  • @mudassardesignspace
    @mudassardesignspace2 ай бұрын

    Javed akhtar interview checklist points and ready reckoner... 1) faith and belief - example of north pole..conclude faith to stupidity 2) god doesnt stop all evils of society although He has all power 3) 2 peg par religion rukta nahi..sar char jaata hai 4) religion is opium of public..God is a santa claus of adults 5) Akbar se bada great and forward thinker is desh me paida hi nahi hua. 6) India's rich GDP during time of Akbar, Jahangir and Shahjahan. Quote Thomas Row during the time of Jahangir 7) as long as i am abused by both sides, i am happy.. problem will be if i get abused from only one side 8) praising India's democracy and concluding which you will not find till you reach the Mediterranean coast 9) dad whispers communist manifesto in his ears when javed akhtar was born.. foundations of rationality and atheism 10) example of Galileo..earth is round..etc 11) aap athiest ho kar bhi communal ho sakte ho...quotes Jinah, Savarkar.. 12) there is nothing like blind faith..faith ka matalab hi hai blind 13) on being asked why are you Atheist? Because I think... 14) satiring that Eid par mujhe 200 mubarak baad aa jaate hain ..yet he likes to celebrate it and all festivals..hamein hamare tyohar and culture wapas de do...

  • @marieclaire7995
    @marieclaire79953 ай бұрын

    Fully agree with Javed sir's points.Was surprised to see so many critical comments against him.But the audience reacted differently.

  • @deepakkumarmalik0894

    @deepakkumarmalik0894

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @ANILKUMAR-tw5xe
    @ANILKUMAR-tw5xe3 ай бұрын

    It is the responsility of people like Javed Akhtar to preach tolarence and inclusiveness to the followers of his religion and also followers of his atheism.

  • @m.ishakziaee9861

    @m.ishakziaee9861

    3 ай бұрын

    Abay ghanchakkar! He left his birth religion ling time ago, abhi tak nai samjha??!

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    3 ай бұрын

    How can you derive "tolerance" from an arbitrary starting point if there's only "what is"?

  • @auhmav04

    @auhmav04

    3 ай бұрын

    didnt javed indicate he's an atheist? im pretty sure he's atheist

  • @shanblues7257

    @shanblues7257

    3 ай бұрын

    His religion and his atheism? Bro, you confused or what?

  • @bjbharath

    @bjbharath

    3 ай бұрын

    His religion and atheists is itself an oxymoron which morons dont get it. Atheists dont care about any religion nor incite violence in the name of god or religion so its the responsibility of religious people to maintain peace since they are the ones who take offence to their gods and religion and incite violence.

  • @Nitinkumar-qo4dp
    @Nitinkumar-qo4dp2 ай бұрын

    Such a beautiful way to debate

  • @nitingawai5662
    @nitingawai56622 ай бұрын

    Great Javed Sahab...

  • @rohitbiswal
    @rohitbiswal3 ай бұрын

    Javed didn't mention the killing and atrocities to Hindu by Mougal .

  • @teakadai43

    @teakadai43

    3 ай бұрын

    Like Upper caste Hindus doing over thousands of year to Dalits.

  • @ujjwalyadav3783

    @ujjwalyadav3783

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@teakadai43no proof of that

  • @teakadai43

    @teakadai43

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ujjwalyadav3783 In Mahabharata, Eklavya was more Talented than Arjuns. But Still he was not Considered as Equal to Arjuna Only because of he was Lower Caste. This is Was just a Example from Yours Books. Even Now Dalits cannot Enter Temple.

  • @ujjwalyadav3783

    @ujjwalyadav3783

    3 ай бұрын

    @@teakadai43 in mahabharat eklavya was the son of commander in chief of the army of magadh- the most powerful army. 😭

  • @teakadai43

    @teakadai43

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ujjwalyadav3783 he was belongs to a Lower Caste.

  • @introvert_2023
    @introvert_20233 ай бұрын

    35:04 He accepted the Distinction that Hinduism is much more plural and progressive than monotheistic religions like Islam/Christianity.

  • @JoJo-hj4tx

    @JoJo-hj4tx

    3 ай бұрын

    That right wing professor couldn't understand javed sahab point that all religions are the same because as you can see any country doesn't matter from which religion they have following but whenever they choose religion instead of secularism they have totally been vanished like iraq iran Afghanistan pakistan Even if you go to india before democracy then you can easily find out beautiful sati pratha breast tax child marriages devadasi niyog etc etc even you can compare current india from 20 years old India then 20 years old india was much progressive than the current india just because of religious politics As he said there was not any words like dalit but the question is why were the aystem of upper & lower caste this is how religion evolved & extremism born for ex islam came from saudi arabia but if you see the saudi islam then you can find out shia & sunni islam but when that islam evolved in india then ahmadia islam happened even there are majority of muslims who óppose ahmadia as a muslim but the point is this is how religion evolved just like a cancer if it happened in your body then it can be grown up

  • @Ritesh-rj1sp

    @Ritesh-rj1sp

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes he accepted because he want to embarrass Hindus again and again like he did in sholay

  • @jostnamane3951

    @jostnamane3951

    3 ай бұрын

    But that is a normative statement. You cannot derive "progressivism" from the fact that the world IS a certain way. Therefore a religion being progressive or regressive is completely arbitrary. Social norms or prevailing culture isn't what we are supposed to use to define whether something should be considered progressive or regressive. He already lost the plot if he used normative statements to try to prove which religion is better.

  • @blueSkyIs1
    @blueSkyIs12 ай бұрын

    Javed is right on the money. All religions have lofty ideas but they are words that serve as lipstick. What really comes out is castism, untouchability, violence, wars, dogma, dominance, politics, and a sense of superiority. All religions should be questioned in this age and time. ALL, period.

  • @narinderpalsingh5349
    @narinderpalsingh53492 ай бұрын

    We need Religion,s guidelines in every day ❤❤❤❤

  • @riser9644
    @riser96443 ай бұрын

    Need full video

  • @bskeshav
    @bskeshav3 ай бұрын

    Why is Javed Akhtar addressed as "Javed Sahab"? At the same time, you address Makarand Paranjape as just "Makarand" Why this distinction???

  • @satyapraveenmareddla9357

    @satyapraveenmareddla9357

    3 ай бұрын

    Age

  • @darklight898

    @darklight898

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed g is seniir citizen and a respectible writer ..

  • @chandra_yaan

    @chandra_yaan

    3 ай бұрын

    Because this was cheating done across show so as loser Javed will be seen as a winner... All leftist cry baby incompetent comperer also loser

  • @bharatvedprakash1308

    @bharatvedprakash1308

    3 ай бұрын

    Mu$lim privilege

  • @sarthakvohra1632

    @sarthakvohra1632

    3 ай бұрын

    lol Makarand Paranjpe is also a senior citizen and for you nachne vaala Javed must be more respected but for people who have brains they respect prof Paranjape more

  • @dinesh6489
    @dinesh64892 ай бұрын

    Javeed ji on fire. he nailed it.

  • @conservativeyogi
    @conservativeyogi4 күн бұрын

    Here's my rebuttal to Mr. Javed. If you gain knowledge only through the instruments of your material body naming the 5 senses, mind, intellect, etc, then your idea of reality/truth is very limited. We all know that the ability to see, hear, smell, touch, taste is limited (in fact some animals have must more better instruments) - therefore the scientific method is limited to collect information and data. The other thing is that someone one (the very person that is doing the observing) is unable to be studied or examined by the material instruments. That is where spirituality and religion comes in. We see consciousness and insentient objects in the world. We do not see or perceive the soul but we see the expression/symptom of it in conscious beings. The ability to see, smell, hear, taste, touch, think and express, free will etc. Many of our beliefs are based on blind faith to some extent as our senses are limited and we rely on information from others for that knowledge. An example - your wife loves you. How do you know? She could be faking it by her gestures, orgasms, and being courteous, inside she may hate you to the core! But if you use your instruments of knowledge (senses) - you are easily deluded and never able to see inside her mind to know her feelings towards you. Therefore there is blind faith that is involved.

  • @bluesparrow10
    @bluesparrow103 ай бұрын

    Moderator already gave her judgement by calling javed as rational😂😂😂

  • @sreematbhiksu4536
    @sreematbhiksu45363 ай бұрын

    Loving kindness, compassion, appreciative joy and forgiveness these four human qualities are real Dharma and religion.

  • @compassioniseverything4262

    @compassioniseverything4262

    24 күн бұрын

    Agreed

  • @rajpunjabi5947
    @rajpunjabi59472 ай бұрын

    What a debate 👏🤩

  • @LovelyLovely-gc2bc
    @LovelyLovely-gc2bc2 ай бұрын

    Very very authentic debate😊

  • @Anjan-1959
    @Anjan-19593 ай бұрын

    Excellent Prof. Marakand Paranjape!

  • @jaikrishnaanantula6020
    @jaikrishnaanantula60203 ай бұрын

    Javed looked like a school kid. He thought he can win over the audience with his chatur mind but Paranjpe was like a Guru and full of conviction and clarity in mind.

  • @AllahoAkbar342

    @AllahoAkbar342

    3 ай бұрын

    Hahahaha this is because you think one sided before i was also same like you 😂

  • @gaitty1
    @gaitty1Ай бұрын

    Moderator was the best, kudos to her for doing a wonderful job. Liked the speakers too.

  • @khajazakirhussain9611
    @khajazakirhussain96112 ай бұрын

    Facts about religion: Do good be away from bad deeds. There is life after death good ones are awarded and bad ones are punished. Recognise creator of this beautiful universe and worship creator alone. Be loving with all human beings irrespective of colours,caste etc.

  • @mamtajha3147
    @mamtajha31473 ай бұрын

    Javedjee your tone itself & label yourself as rational, shows you believe yourself to be superior

  • @logical.Indian
    @logical.Indian3 ай бұрын

    We want full video it’s a shame that you didn’t put a full video put the full video on Man. We want to see the whole fight. It was interesting to see somebody who is making his point

  • @Muhammedzakir147
    @Muhammedzakir147Ай бұрын

    Just wow

  • @ImperialCosmos
    @ImperialCosmos3 ай бұрын

    Yes, ofcourse, we need religion but what we need more than this a country not run on the basis of religion but pure intelligence!! Look at Singapore they managed religion, infrastructure, people, trades, education everything when even whole world gave up on that place!!! That's what leadership is!!!

  • @ArjunAJ-nw7rl

    @ArjunAJ-nw7rl

    2 ай бұрын

    We don't need any religion enough is enough

  • @ImperialCosmos

    @ImperialCosmos

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ArjunAJ-nw7rl no no, a country like ours will crumble without religion, don't blame religion when this country can't have good leader to balance everything.

  • @spuriusscapula4829

    @spuriusscapula4829

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ImperialCosmos nope we absolutely do not need religion. we need education which inculcates civic sense and critical thinking.

  • @dr.pandya1289
    @dr.pandya12893 ай бұрын

    I have listened to all speeches of Javed sir. no one has been able to defeat him in debate of religion. He is very courageous ,knowledgeable , rational and well wisher of humanities. at the end he got angry that could have been avoided. and Professor is not able to answer question of faith. when he does not have answer, he diverts debate. I agree with Jawed sir that all religions are same because they all have faith. rituals are different but all have faith.

  • @ahamasmiarinm

    @ahamasmiarinm

    3 ай бұрын

    Well, unless one has asked his or her parents for a DNA test before accepting them as his or her parents, I guess it's hypocritical to say that faith is bad. Even without that the difference is very clear, people with faith pray to God to in times of distress to acquire strength to overcome the problems, and people without faith get antidepressant prescriptions from their doctors. I fully agree with the Professor, this war against religion is centuries old marxist-communist agenda where they want people to dump their religions and follow communism religiously. What's most ironic is that people who dismiss faith and speak only for logic, they never ask a simple question, why there has been something like religion in every civilisation that ever existed on the face of this planet. Such omnipresence across geography, culture and time can't be a fluke, isn't it?

  • @indranidutta1945

    @indranidutta1945

    3 ай бұрын

    Know the difference between seekers and believers- seekers don’t need to give up their culture

  • @dr.pandya1289

    @dr.pandya1289

    3 ай бұрын

    Javed sir follows Indian culture but not god. Culture originated before god. But people mixed culture with god. So many atheists in India also celebrate Diwali , Eid etc.

  • @hello3524

    @hello3524

    3 ай бұрын

    Mr. @Javedakhtarjadu is an Atheist, is a joke, employing usual Islamist tactics like “I am a Namaz praying secular Liberal” He is such a hypocrite that he could debate Sadguru against Hinduism on a public platform, but he can’t dare to debate with any Maulana against Islam. I have been listening JA since past 25 years. He is an Islamists to the core disguising as an Atheist. It is like Owaisi calling himself Secular.

  • @ahamasmiarinm

    @ahamasmiarinm

    3 ай бұрын

    @@dr.pandya1289 Well, Bharat's philosophy doesn't have the concept of God, like Abrahamic faiths have. Abrahamic-like God exists only for those people of this land who aren't intellectually capable to understand the philosophy of this land.

  • @surajk7295
    @surajk72953 ай бұрын

    Paranjape good sir Spoke with clarity but slight correction on hindutva as it means knowing essence of sanatana dharma in depth which Hindu was disconnected from long as text book not taught and nor parents🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @kapilmaurya8143
    @kapilmaurya814326 күн бұрын

    Love it❤

  • @rakeshkamti4486
    @rakeshkamti44862 ай бұрын

    No religion no war

  • @shivanshkhare5943

    @shivanshkhare5943

    Ай бұрын

    Most idiotic thing I heard. If there is no religion, no one fears doing bad to others. World will become much more hellish than it is now.

  • @Nishit-iTechCracker

    @Nishit-iTechCracker

    27 күн бұрын

    Stalin was an atheist and ended up killing 100 mn people! 😏

  • @aasifali9139
    @aasifali91393 ай бұрын

    There are cuts in this video, plzz upload the uncut video. btw great talk.

  • @ExposeSkyMonkey

    @ExposeSkyMonkey

    3 ай бұрын

    When Lindus can't Defend their Hinduism ! Then divert debate towards abrahamic religions 😂 Oldest Kulture strategy 😂🤡🚩

  • @nabajyotipaul7635

    @nabajyotipaul7635

    3 ай бұрын

    Very good now get out of my country​@@ExposeSkyMonkey

  • @wutangmuslin

    @wutangmuslin

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@ExposeSkyMonkey stop with these inciting comments. Don't promote hate speech.

  • @ExposeSkyMonkey

    @ExposeSkyMonkey

    2 ай бұрын

    @@wutangmuslin why they play Whatabouttry ?

  • @spuriusscapula4829

    @spuriusscapula4829

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@ExposeSkyMonkey dude I'm an atheist, and I criticize Hinduism. But looking at your profile, I seriously doubt that you're one... the odds point to you being a Muslim. And the irony of you people using vile words like "pajeet", when that word very well could be used for you.

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