Neat Things I Found in Sonic Forces

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  • @gokublack9724
    @gokublack97249 ай бұрын

    I like how the avatar has idle animations yet sonic doesn't have any, that's incredible

  • @Triff3599

    @Triff3599

    9 ай бұрын

    Classic Sonic also has the "I'm waiting" animation, and for some reason, even though Sonic doesn't have idle animations for standing, he still does the "I'm bored" animation when he's idle in the freefall sections. I think the devs legit forgot to code the animations in, somehow 💀

  • @gokublack9724

    @gokublack9724

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Triff3599 that seems like the most likely reason

  • @clawcakes2

    @clawcakes2

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Triff3599 his bored idle animation in the freefalls is so cute and good! why doesn't he have any other idles! this is a personal attack against me in particular from sega.

  • @officialpoppyperson

    @officialpoppyperson

    9 ай бұрын

    @@clawcakes2 sega hates you, specifically.

  • @ericamaya2467

    @ericamaya2467

    9 ай бұрын

    yup, incredibly stupid, lol

  • @edenengland1883
    @edenengland18838 ай бұрын

    when the best praise that sonic forces can be given is "the plants are dead in the area where theyre supposed to be dead", you know the game sure was good

  • @reggierocks9488
    @reggierocks94889 ай бұрын

    Not gonna lie you actually had me there at the end of the video

  • @sourlab

    @sourlab

    8 ай бұрын

    I genuinely jumped a bit

  • @Triff3599
    @Triff35999 ай бұрын

    The fact that you managed to squeeze ten minutes out of positive(or just interesting) Sonic Forces content is impressive

  • @vittosphonecollection4134

    @vittosphonecollection4134

    9 ай бұрын

    It's not impressive, he just wants to play the game. Playing is having fun. People who buy the the game just to speedrun it and sell it, blaming the short story just to say "hey, at least I played it" shouldn't even buy it at this point. Either you care or you don't. Plus nobody _forces_ (pun intended) you to just play the level in a normal way. You can go crazy and try the glitches like in this, or go for a slow points run/rings run or try to get as many collectibles possible without dying, or picking on purpose the secret paths. There is a big difference between people who play the game badly or in a boring way on purpose to make the game look bad and people who actually play it to have fun, like every videogame is meant to be at the end of the day...

  • @Crow_Rising

    @Crow_Rising

    9 ай бұрын

    @@vittosphonecollection4134 Honestly a lot of the criticism is justified, but I also do feel like people make it out to be worse than it is. My experience with the game was that I did enjoy it somewhat, I did encounter some frustrating moments, but overall I just found the whole thing really bland and mediocre. On a scale from 1 to 10 where anything below 5 is bad and anything above 5 is good, I'd rank the game a solid 5. As a standalone experience, the whole thing is honestly rather harmless. As a Sonic game specifically, it's not great. There's way better games you can play with the same general gameplay style. Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Colors, and Sonic Generations specifically are all a better investment of your time. They all have better controls and physics, and they all have better level design. The character customization is somewhat bare bones, but I do like that it's there and I would like to see it return and be improved on in the future. The custom characters are also the most fun I was able to have in the game, the wispons are the best idea the game has and once you find one that you really like you can honestly have a lot of genuine fun in the stages that allow you to use them, especially when you're trying to complete specific missions instead of just get to the goal. There's definitely a good game buried in there somewhere under the shortcomings and the game isn't as bad as everyone tries to say, but it's by no means a good game either and is a downgrade in standards from what the series was putting out up to that point. This is likely largely to Sonic Team being composed of mostly new hires after most of the remaining original team left following the completion of Sonic Generations. Lost World, Forces, and Frontiers are so far the only mainline games produced by these new devs, so they're very much only just starting to get the whole thing figured out and getting the gist of how to bring these games closer to their full potential before launch.

  • @vittosphonecollection4134

    @vittosphonecollection4134

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Crow_Rising Personally I love the game and I understand I'm the different one, but one thing is preferring other games and the other is doing what I described before, or absolutely hate everything and going in every single Sonic video, Forces related or not, and spam "better than Forces" . It's annoying. Assuming the game was mid to me, like you said, people make it look way worse that how it actually is. People don't buy Forces to have fun or to go "I tried, but I really don't like it", they buy it to go "Yeah, yeah, I played it. You can't say I didn't. I was right, it sucks. In the meantime tho I made a new video for my channel." Like, just don't buy it if you hate it that much (not you, generally talking), you're wasting time . Of course you can squeeze ten minutes of fun things if you want, even if not playing the game as intended

  • @SERGEO-sn4pj

    @SERGEO-sn4pj

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@vittosphonecollection4134You arent the only one that likes forces.I found the game really fun and i am also really annoyed by people spamming the phrase "better than forces". If they didnt like the game its alright.What i find not alright is trying to influence the other 's opinion.

  • @vittosphonecollection4134

    @vittosphonecollection4134

    Ай бұрын

    @@SERGEO-sn4pj Exactly! 💯💯

  • @mr.matthews8002
    @mr.matthews80029 ай бұрын

    I actually got mawde wile'd at the end. that's neat

  • @seanhennessy3968

    @seanhennessy3968

    9 ай бұрын

    I can't believe I fell for it!

  • @phantommyst1933

    @phantommyst1933

    8 ай бұрын

    😭

  • @LannyLeArtist

    @LannyLeArtist

    8 ай бұрын

    Who

  • @Tsukiru
    @Tsukiru9 ай бұрын

    That outtake managed to get TWO chuckles out of me, that's neat.

  • @amor1064
    @amor10649 ай бұрын

    It's quite amusing that most of the "neat things" are just unintended exploits to mess around with rather than parts of the game design made to engage the player. Stellar isn't it.

  • @seanhennessy3968
    @seanhennessy39689 ай бұрын

    3:00 Dang, Sonic coming in with the janky leg 👀

  • @agentomecha634
    @agentomecha6349 ай бұрын

    I actually didn’t know a lot of this stuff about Forces until this video. It’s pretty interesting how easy it is to cheese the game in parts, even though the game is heavily automated. I also wasn’t expecting there to be that much attention to detail in the first act foreshadowing the war, like with the plants and totem statues. The more you know.

  • @clawcakes2
    @clawcakes29 ай бұрын

    3:01 sonic IK bugs are my favorite thing on the planet. i encounter them so often while playing unleashed and each time i sit there and marvel n giggle at it for a moment before continuing

  • @nithpro1385

    @nithpro1385

    9 ай бұрын

    u encounter bugs often?? in UNLEASHED???

  • @clawcakes2

    @clawcakes2

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nithpro1385 only visual bugs from the IKs being grumpy, i've never encountered an actual gameplay glitch LOL

  • @nithpro1385

    @nithpro1385

    9 ай бұрын

    @@clawcakes2 what's an ik lol

  • @clawcakes2

    @clawcakes2

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nithpro1385 IKs (short for inverse kinematics) are, in the simplest terms possible, what keep sonic's feet planted on the ground. i'm an (amatuer) 3D character artist myself so if i got into any more detail we'd be here for hours.

  • @Daniel12Animations
    @Daniel12Animations9 ай бұрын

    funny how i played this game more than a normal person would and i didn't know half of this stuff

  • @vittosphonecollection4134
    @vittosphonecollection41349 ай бұрын

    4:02 I always go on it, jump and when he lands, boost! It feels satisfying and also it's totally a thing Sonic would do.

  • @vittosphonecollection4134

    @vittosphonecollection4134

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks 4 the heart

  • @ElClassicFurro
    @ElClassicFurro9 ай бұрын

    The intro was kinda funny XDDD

  • @nyx3983

    @nyx3983

    9 ай бұрын

    bro is using “XD” in the year of our lord, 2023.

  • @ElRobaTacosUwU

    @ElRobaTacosUwU

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@nyx3983your lord is a fake god XD

  • @Hazcaz20

    @Hazcaz20

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@ElRobaTacosUwUbruh

  • @alieneko_nyo

    @alieneko_nyo

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@nyx3983XDDDD

  • @jellycore1316

    @jellycore1316

    8 ай бұрын

    Agreed XD

  • @KittyKatty999
    @KittyKatty9999 ай бұрын

    This guy could draw water/blood from a stone! That's easier than being genuinely positive about Sonic Forces

  • @sonicsnobody
    @sonicsnobody8 ай бұрын

    1:18 “press e to collect”

  • @seematahir5970
    @seematahir59709 ай бұрын

    Neat litte thing I found in Network Terminal: you can actually grind on the tops of the ziplines. Its easiest to do on the 3rd zipline of the opening 3D section. It doesnt really do anything, but its a weirdly cool detail.

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    8 ай бұрын

    Imma need to try this for myself

  • @dontbecomelgbt
    @dontbecomelgbt9 ай бұрын

    ‏‪11:20‬‏ Bro you did us dirty there💀💀💀💀

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    9 ай бұрын

    My honest apologies, I felt like trolling for a bit

  • @heroessquad2019

    @heroessquad2019

    9 ай бұрын

    @@mawdewile Ah! Lmao

  • @sourlab

    @sourlab

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@mawdewileI was genuinely so intriged so invested then I literally jumped

  • @karinyupinyan5754
    @karinyupinyan57549 ай бұрын

    Your self deprecation is getting better and better

  • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
    @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard329 ай бұрын

    Spinning my sonic 7:31 honestly my best guess is that they ran into a bug related to sonic getting hit by the lightning whip so to solve this, they just have sonic teleport and turn invicincible

  • @kylemarkley7170

    @kylemarkley7170

    9 ай бұрын

    But Sonic is already invincible when he's the partner.

  • @LegoLoco7
    @LegoLoco78 ай бұрын

    I love how much you can do by just going off the edges of the slides in Aqua Road, so I'm definitely going to try that.

  • @vaporcranberries
    @vaporcranberries9 ай бұрын

    0:00 man think he on the barrel in carnival night zone

  • @ElRobaTacosUwU
    @ElRobaTacosUwU9 ай бұрын

    the plant, the myth, the legend

  • @ZeroPlanZone
    @ZeroPlanZone9 ай бұрын

    You planted bastard, you got me good at the end!😂

  • @IanNBF
    @IanNBF7 ай бұрын

    The RadicalSoda reference does *not* go unappreciated

  • @Hassan-jt1xb
    @Hassan-jt1xb9 ай бұрын

    Something that's also pretty cool is for some reason In sky diving sections if you don't do anything sonic,shadow and the avatar will do an idle animation

  • @isenokami7810
    @isenokami78108 ай бұрын

    Looking back, there’s not a lot of good stuff I would consider good enough to bring back or learn from for future games in Forces, though I personally would argue the avatar gameplay shows promise. In terms of individual stages, however, Aqua Road is an excellent idea that just needs some more consideration and length to be a properly good Sonic stage. A maze of slides where daring and skilled players can take big risks by launching themselves off to later parts of the level; I’ve never played Monkey Ball, but I’ll bet those who have would love that concept for a Sonic stage. And Aqua Road was basically there if not for pitifully short length.

  • @keelanbarron928
    @keelanbarron9289 ай бұрын

    3:56 good job.

  • @ATSTB
    @ATSTB9 ай бұрын

    9:06 Thank you! Have a good day as well!

  • @heroessquad2019
    @heroessquad20199 ай бұрын

    11:20 you lied to me XD

  • @luizmiguel5484
    @luizmiguel54842 ай бұрын

    I didn't expect Drill Wispon to be so broken, when I played I only used Asteroid and Void but now I know it's possible to become a One Drill Man and save the day

  • @Riku70X
    @Riku70X8 ай бұрын

    Yo I love your brand new outro, very sick

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    8 ай бұрын

    Much appreciated fam

  • @keeps-42
    @keeps-428 ай бұрын

    Random addition to Drill Wispon. Cancelling charge with a slide makes you ignore boost pads entirely. So when you try out Aqua Road Drill Wispon, make sure you slide to clear every single pad without losing your momentum

  • @keeps-42

    @keeps-42

    8 ай бұрын

    Oh. Also in Space Port, with the Asteroid Wispon of all things equipped, going into the 2D section after collecting the first capsule will give you one of the most satisfying 3 seconds of your life. Get the version of it with stomp speed boost, jump, stomp to get the boost, jump right after, pop the ability and glide. Your momentum will skyrocket. Can't replicate it as well anywhere else from my experience.

  • @keeps-42

    @keeps-42

    8 ай бұрын

    Try Drill Wispon on bosses btw. It's actually insane. You can hit Metal/Infinite when you aren't supposed to, beat Infinite in less than 20 seconds, (my PB is

  • @keeps-42

    @keeps-42

    8 ай бұрын

    Drill is stupid. I love it so much.

  • @keeps-42

    @keeps-42

    8 ай бұрын

    Wait I just remembered something If you do your daily missions, and go forward in time after clearing all three, the game will automatically enable the bonus after you go into a menu. The game will give you new missions depending on your date as well. Not only does that mean you can get the 3.0x daily bonus in less than half an hour, but going back to the present while the timer is active extends it. Say you did a week's worth of missions, which sounds like a lot but usually amounts to "stomp" or "boost" in a certain way, then you'll have a week's time added to your "30 minute" exp bonus. Super good for getting medals. And you can extend this timer indefinitely. As well as start at any point. Start two years in the future and boom. You probably won't ever have to worry about exp again unless you still play the same file after all that time.

  • @Soldaraku
    @Soldaraku9 ай бұрын

    I can't believe you pulled a nigh-impossible task and actually found enough things to make a neat things video for Sonic Forces. I just hope it didn't cost you too much of your sanity and/or soul to do this.

  • @greengaming2604
    @greengaming26049 ай бұрын

    Godamnit he cliffhangered us 😑

  • @CoffeeBritish
    @CoffeeBritish9 ай бұрын

    Its impossible to mention forces without radicalsoda showing up

  • @osamh4071
    @osamh40719 ай бұрын

    equippeded again 😂 8:22

  • @SparkingTitanX
    @SparkingTitanX8 ай бұрын

    BRO THAT BRIGE EASTER EGG IS INSANE I NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD ADD THAT

  • @poppy3660
    @poppy36609 ай бұрын

    congrats on your coming out video

  • @memezabelle
    @memezabelle18 күн бұрын

    the two neat things about this game is that one arsenal pyramid outer area's theme really slaps and ive never known that because we literally only hear it for 30 seconds and that the avatar level are actually pretty fun to speedrun with the drill wisp

  • @JackyMcStone-fq6ul
    @JackyMcStone-fq6ul9 ай бұрын

    I srsly love ur videos. U have a cute voice and its rlly engaging to find neat things in a game even if small lol. It gives me an idea of what kind of relationship I'd actually have with the game as a fuck-arounder kind of person.

  • @jordyyaboi
    @jordyyaboi8 ай бұрын

    It’s videos like this about this game that make me think “So this took 6 years to make?!” Like just wow should’ve stuck with their original hedgehog engine and physics engine

  • @kirstenonic05
    @kirstenonic058 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised you were able to find so much in this game! The Red Eye and Wisp easter eggs were a very nice find!

  • @wolfiethefurrygamer1908
    @wolfiethefurrygamer19088 ай бұрын

    That wasnt a RadicalSoda moment, its just....... GRAND MATROPOLOS

  • @potato_shard
    @potato_shard9 ай бұрын

    this is the best intro to a video ive seen in a while

  • @viniciusmoraes8572
    @viniciusmoraes85729 ай бұрын

    I always loved the drill wispon And that just makes it better

  • @mr.curtis6730

    @mr.curtis6730

    9 ай бұрын

    It absolutely shreads infinte 2 and 3 but i prefer burst

  • @Num1MarioFan
    @Num1MarioFan8 ай бұрын

    5:00 how is he not carrying the momentum of the conveyor belt when jumping?

  • @videogamefan9637
    @videogamefan96378 ай бұрын

    I fell for it on the last one. Good video!

  • @joshuabradford8206
    @joshuabradford82069 ай бұрын

    You need to turn that clip of Sonic's leg bending and the creaking sound effect added into a tiktok. That is just beautiful😂

  • @ninjanate5018

    @ninjanate5018

    9 ай бұрын

    No

  • @Corvus__
    @Corvus__8 ай бұрын

    "BOO! Microphone puff jumpscare! (Also hi I hope your having a good day)" Yes, I did set the playback speed to 0.25 and repeatedly pause and unpause the video just to catch and read that message. Worth it!

  • @heroessquad2019
    @heroessquad20199 ай бұрын

    Beginning of the video: *microwave*

  • @biscuitygudness
    @biscuitygudness8 ай бұрын

    i LOVE this kind of video so much - just noting all the little details and weird quirks of a game! it's genuinely really fun/interesting seeing all this stuff, i love the neat things i found videos they always tickle my brain

  • @bIobwastaken
    @bIobwastaken9 ай бұрын

    Waiit a minute

  • @bIobwastaken

    @bIobwastaken

    9 ай бұрын

    THIS IS NEAT?!

  • @Redalertyt27
    @Redalertyt275 ай бұрын

    You could say I found this video “neat”! Great job

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you thank you very much

  • @Kyle_Spivis
    @Kyle_Spivis9 ай бұрын

    Such a calming intro

  • @fatalwaffle1715
    @fatalwaffle17159 ай бұрын

    Awesome Video Bro.

  • @soulless9081
    @soulless90818 ай бұрын

    3:50 "That wasn't very funn--" "Well it's a good thing I'm gay!" "Never mind."

  • @spicysonicrofl
    @spicysonicrofl8 ай бұрын

    that ending made me mald

  • @Flycanjack
    @Flycanjack9 ай бұрын

    If you hold down as classic sonic, then immediately let go and jump he'll stand in mid air for a couple frames

  • @familiapdantas4646
    @familiapdantas46469 ай бұрын

    There's a glich that happen just one time with me in the metrópoles, with sonic and avatar, in start of the level (wen you get out of null space) you jump in a way that i can't do it anymore so sonic can't get the rail.

  • @JasonLeIdi
    @JasonLeIdi9 ай бұрын

    Recommendations Blessed Me With This.

  • @vOrbZv
    @vOrbZv9 ай бұрын

    I’m very mad about what you did to me at the end but I can’t blame you lol

  • @normalichu
    @normalichu9 ай бұрын

    Neat!

  • @victorappleton1906
    @victorappleton19069 ай бұрын

    That level select code is such a fun easter egg!

  • @southeast.
    @southeast.9 ай бұрын

    *s p i n*

  • @NoNamex1412
    @NoNamex14129 ай бұрын

    Forces truly is the game of all time, also what's the music track in the background at the start?

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    9 ай бұрын

    I believe the title is Happy H. Christmas - Maniacs of Noise

  • @julianx2rl
    @julianx2rl8 ай бұрын

    I hate that I know exactly where the thumbnail is from. Is when Amy finds out that "Sonic is Alive".

  • @ThePreciseClimber
    @ThePreciseClimber8 ай бұрын

    3:00 I guess that confirms it. Sonic has no feet.

  • @ALegendaryBlueHedge
    @ALegendaryBlueHedge9 ай бұрын

    Sonic Forces me to watch this video

  • @leodetective6056
    @leodetective60568 ай бұрын

    Finally found somebody liked Sonic Forces

  • @mousetoons5514
    @mousetoons55148 ай бұрын

    9:37 Me playing forces 2 weeks ago: “Wow this game sucks why am I even playing it aga- IS THAT THE RED EYE FROM SONIC 3 & KNUCKLES”

  • @alsomawdewile
    @alsomawdewile9 ай бұрын

    Yo that last thing was cool af bro how has nobody talked about that yet?

  • @BorntoOrnn
    @BorntoOrnn9 ай бұрын

    Hey That is neat.

  • @Classic-guy1991
    @Classic-guy19919 ай бұрын

    You ever just hold forward in 1-1 in sonic frontiers or go back and forth in that level

  • @gammaboy4568
    @gammaboy45688 ай бұрын

    Most oxymoronic title I've seen yet.

  • @playstation.e7703
    @playstation.e77038 ай бұрын

    The escape key

  • @BasementDweller_
    @BasementDweller_8 ай бұрын

    Neat.

  • @SonicXD-eu2dq
    @SonicXD-eu2dq8 ай бұрын

    “Raises leg”💀💀💀

  • @rundas2141
    @rundas21418 ай бұрын

    Spin tech? Drill wisp meta? Pirahna plant collab? Hilarious outtakes? This is some real content for sure. I loved it

  • @thelonleygengar
    @thelonleygengar3 ай бұрын

    MAWDE WHY IS THIS THE VIDEO YOU COME OUT ON???

  • @TerkwY
    @TerkwY8 ай бұрын

    For some reason i thought i was the only person who still was playing this gorgeous game

  • @vaporcran4
    @vaporcran43 ай бұрын

    11:20 what remix is this I know that it’s the Rival Battle theme from Pokemon Silver but where can I find this remix

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    3 ай бұрын

    This is Lance’s theme from Pokémon Stadium 2. For some reason, Lance and your rival swap themes in that game

  • @vaporcran4

    @vaporcran4

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mawdewileI would have never known. Thanks

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    3 ай бұрын

    Np fam

  • @theencore
    @theencore9 ай бұрын

    fuck that last was good

  • @Thatonemetalsonicfan
    @Thatonemetalsonicfan8 ай бұрын

    You know, if the drill wispon never existed arsenal pyramid would be impossible homing attackless

  • @bobotank86
    @bobotank867 ай бұрын

    There is another neat thing that you did not mention: when you finish the game, the start screen changes from war to peace (Google translate)

  • @Andresitum
    @Andresitum7 ай бұрын

    Casino Forest is the only level that you can max out your rings and get a instant S Rank If you dont smash the Square button for Double Boost, you dont hear the Lyrics of Fist Bump

  • @blueknightskeleton8424
    @blueknightskeleton84249 ай бұрын

    Sonic Forces bonus video

  • @panzermaus664
    @panzermaus6649 ай бұрын

    Neat. And real Gay.

  • @math3us420
    @math3us4208 ай бұрын

    8:32 after all these years, that is the coolest thing I've seen in forces

  • @Zayiscool2145
    @Zayiscool21458 ай бұрын

    3:00 ayo what

  • @PixelTheRetro
    @PixelTheRetro9 ай бұрын

    Bro really left the background music quality in 2004

  • @misschieflolz1301
    @misschieflolz13018 ай бұрын

    Drill wispon seriously is broken AF. I'm no speedrunner, I don't have time to dedicate to that.... but one time I told myself I was going to get through Imperial Tower sub 60 seconds. I managed to do that and get myself in the top 100 ranking for that level.... just because of broken ass drill wispon lol.

  • @StarshadowMelody
    @StarshadowMelody9 ай бұрын

    yeah I'm having a good day, just woke up though

  • @Midwaygem_
    @Midwaygem_8 ай бұрын

    Speeny sonic intro

  • @liquidthefox
    @liquidthefox8 ай бұрын

    3:56 same

  • @nottoofast
    @nottoofast9 ай бұрын

    why did you do that to us at the end :(

  • @mawdewile

    @mawdewile

    9 ай бұрын

    My honest apologies chief, I felt like trolling for a bit

  • @sourlab

    @sourlab

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@mawdewileI actually jumped

  • @sourlab

    @sourlab

    8 ай бұрын

    Of the sofa.....

  • @nathanielwilliams1815
    @nathanielwilliams18159 ай бұрын

    If you have Kirby star allies I have a video idea and this is a challenge that I did myself can you be Kirby star allies with no power ups nor Allies and as a bonus challenge can you beat the three sisters at the same time and the old man without allies nor power-ups as well I did this one too it was hard with fun and also you will be surprised how much damage Kirby can do and also the key workers challenges patients you may be doing a lot of waiting

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders73057 ай бұрын

    That liar lied, this video exists

  • @sourlab
    @sourlab8 ай бұрын

    9:06 AHHHHH

  • @Alph4Falc0
    @Alph4Falc09 ай бұрын

    babe wake up mawde wile posted

  • @Jello7543
    @Jello75438 ай бұрын

    i was not excpeting a radicalsoda refrence