Ya seemed so close to the water on these ships ,it was still a defiance of life ,death and nature to be sailing on one of these masterpiece's

On My God' Another splendid ball room. Ceiling so high.

@shuichiboy

4 жыл бұрын

As my German friend put it, "Ugh, steamship baroque. Never was there a greater eyesore created in human history."

@kpasstenceBETA

3 жыл бұрын

And the seemingly endless promenades !

Schwimmende Paläste wären wohl die richtigen Worte für diese Schiffe. Die heutigen Schiffe sind zwar größer, aber nicht schöner.

DELTCHSREICH &ÖSTERREICH-UNGRIAN

Really impressive ships.

Wunderbar

They raised the bar. British were losing transatlantic passenger service and had to dish out massive government subsidies under the guise of the Royal Mail Ship contracts to catch up and surpass the Germans. Hence just one challenge false illusion of British superiority of shipbuilding. Their interiors set the stage for the battle of the floating palaces.

@TheVaughan5

5 жыл бұрын

Yes at the end of the 19thc the German ships were surpassing the British, hence Cunard`s ``Lusitania`` ``Mauritania`` and ``Aquitania`` which eclipsed the German liners. Then Hamburg Amerika came out with the ``Imperator`` and ``Vaterland`` which were more luxurious than the ``Olympic``and ill fated ``Titanic`` So the rivalry was good for those who could afford a trans-Atlantic crossing, in 1st class of course - lol.

@lawrencelewis8105

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheVaughan5 I imagine that the 3 Cunarders with their much higher speeds made the German ships un-competitive in the North Atlantic trade.

@swunt10

4 жыл бұрын

@@lawrencelewis8105 germany had faster ships than the british and held the blue riband for longer until ww2 of course.

@lawrencelewis8105

4 жыл бұрын

@@swunt10 I thought the winners went in this order- 1907 the Mauretania, then the Bremen in 1929, then the Rex , then the Normandie and Queen Mary battled for the blue riband and the United States after 1953.

@lawrencelewis8105

4 жыл бұрын

The Lusitania, Mauretania and Aquitania were the fastest ships as I understand which is why they had the designation of Royal Mail Ship (RMS) where the Titanic and her sisters were never intended to be high-speed ships and so had the designation of SS. From what I've read the decor of the 3 Cunarders was rather austere compared to the White Star and German ships.

It must have been a joy to first see this big, gleaming steamer with such sleek and elegant lines in the water. It was a work of design art as well as of new technology. North German Lloyd was a famous German-British collaboration, was it not?

@EequalzMc2BigE

4 жыл бұрын

Purely German - it was a competition of nations back then ... the British were the best

@swunt10

4 жыл бұрын

@@EequalzMc2BigE the british were the best at building sinking ships. germany on the other hand build ships that won the blue riband and held it for longer than british ships before ww2. also this ship is the first superliner. the brits could only try to copy.

@EequalzMc2BigE

4 жыл бұрын

@@swunt10 You're so wrong it's laughable ... anyone with a basic knowledge in ocean liners knows the Olympic class from White Star (British) were the first superliners. And the Mauretania from Cunard (also British), held the blue riband for 20 years through the interwar period. The Germans made the inferior copies that could never come close to the superior British liners. Through all classes, from 1st to 3rd, it was a much better experience on a British liner. And majority of our liners were sunk due to the despicable actions of the Kaiserliche Marine ... so please don't go there.

@swunt10

4 жыл бұрын

@@EequalzMc2BigE you maybe want to check wikipedia first boy. then you wouldn't have to write all that nonsense. start with the wiki page of SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse "entered service in 1897. It was the first liner to have four funnels and is considered to be the first "superliner."" "she marked the beginning of a change in the way maritime supremacy was demonstrated in Europe at the beginning of the 20th century. The ship began a new era in ocean travel and the novelty of having four funnels was quickly associated with size, strength, speed and above all luxury." also the germans ships where much more luxerious, just look at the pictures, double high dining rooms, light shafts bringing natural light even down to the lower decks and did you notice all the strange horns sticking out the ships upper deck? they are for airing the ship. british ships didn't have that, they where always a bit darker all with stale air. so much so that e.g. the RMS Empress of Ireland sank after a collision with another ship because portholes where left open after the ship already left the harbor to ventilate the ship. that's how bad british ships where. PS the only reason the lusitania and mauritania got the blue riband was because they cheated changing the way it was measured because that was the only way for them to beat the SS Deutschland by 0.8 knots the Bremen on the other hand fair and square got the blue riband with almost 2 knots more speed. but I give it to you that the brits are good at cheating. btw the 20 years of the mauritania don't really count because it was ww1.

@EequalzMc2BigE

4 жыл бұрын

@@swunt10 Please do not call me boy, and you know wikipedia is not a reliable resource? And sorry, but SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse was just a big yacht. I'd hardly call her a "superliner" at 15,000 tonnes, she was only the same size as The Great Eastern (another British feat), which came over fifty years before. Whereas, the Olympic class at 45,000 tonnes were over 50% larger than anything that had come before, so truly deserved the recognition of superliner. And yes, I'm fully aware of the function of those "horns" (or vents) and how they were an absolutely eyesore. The Olympic class resolved the issue perfectly with the fourth dummy funnel and freed up deck space in the process. Yes, they had a dummy funnel, but SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse had two, so your four funnel point is moot. The German liners' interiors were stale and uninviting when compared to the British liners, it was only the French who eventually took over the British in that sphere. And the Empress of Ireland was Canadian owned not British. P.S. I''m very sceptical of this nonsense, but regardless they'll go down in history as the blue riband holders: that's all that matters. BTW WW1 lasted four years not twenty(!)

Could you imagine the smell of all the sausage & kraut ! Yum . I love how they catered to their people like most of the Grand liners of the day .

Been looking for a long time for a model kit of one of these. Seems no one is interested. Everyone makes a Titanic but no German liners. There's something about them that appeals to me.

@lawrencelewis8105

3 жыл бұрын

There is a model of the Kaiser Wilhem der Grosse in 1:250 scale made by Hamburger Modellbaubogen Verlag. It's made of paper and has over 1,000 parts. Google the company and you will see it. I have a lot of paper ship models and they are a lot more interesting to build than plastic. or google "card models" and info will turn up. I have the model, I just haven't started building it yet. Maybe this winter I will take a crack at it.

@sidibill

3 жыл бұрын

@@lawrencelewis8105 Thanks for the info. I looked up the site. Web page is WWW.Modelbaubogen.com. Unfortunately The Kaiser Wilhem is not in stock. The site is pretty interesting anyway. There are several other models that I may want. I have never done a paper model before. I bought one of Notre Dame in Paris when I was in Paris 30 years ago. It's still not done. Thanks again.

@lawrencelewis8105

3 жыл бұрын

@@sidibill A little advice if I may- start with a small one to get practice. DO NOT used Elmer's glue! Use a craft glue such as Weldbond or if you can, UHU Alleskleber from Germany. Look up JSC models and also Wilhelmshaven. Both have very fine ships.

@fredreinhard2091

2 жыл бұрын

They were better built, faster and more successful than the British Competition.

What happened to this stunning liner ? The dining area was fantastic . Did she make it through the war or was she scrapped ? I just love the interiors of these four stackers . Could you imagine today ? I have been on a suite on the QM2 but nothing like this ...

@Jimmycozad1980

4 жыл бұрын

The Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse was Scuttled in WW1 during a battle with the HMS highflyer. To prevent capture by the British after she exhausted her Ammunition while serving as an armed Murchent cruiser. The Kaiser Wilhelm II, Kronzprinz Wilhelm, and the Kronprinzessin Cecilie were seized and taken over by the US as Transports in WW1 The Kronprinz Wilhelm was craped in the 1920s and Both Kaiser Wilhelm and Kronprinzessin Cecilie were scrapped in 1940 as they were deemed too old for any use.

@TheReevessss

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jimmycozad1980 Tragic losses of history. And splendour.

Somehow these ships don't look as hospitable as the British and French liners. It's too bad the Germans didn't stick to building ships for peacetime purposes.

@Monsterknecht

4 жыл бұрын

As is well known, England has built far more warships than the German Empire.

Was für eine stupide Musik,schade ,da die Aufnahmen sehr interessant sind.Es bekommt dadurch etwas tendenziöses,negativ preussisch militärisches.

@Monsterknecht

5 жыл бұрын

Was bitte ist denn an klassischen Militärmärschen "stupide" und "negativ"? Wenn Sie das so empfinden, ist es Ihr ganz persönliches Problem.

@johnclayden1670

5 жыл бұрын

I kinda like the music. Fits with the images. What else could there be? A Polish polka? Italian opera? Russian ballet? La Marsellaise? Rule Britannia? The Stars and Stripes? All ideas welcome.

@wq6737

5 жыл бұрын

Diese Musik passt doch herrlich zu den stolzen Schiffen dieser Zeit. Deutschland war damals eine stolze Großmacht,nicht wie heute ein Vasall der EU. Zur derzeitigen Bundesrepublik passt diese stolze Marschmusiknatürlich nicht. Damals war Deutschland eine eigenständige, industriell an der Spitze stehende , starke Monarchie.

@maxmoritz5065

4 жыл бұрын

Idiot

@jorgetoro3573

3 жыл бұрын

Alte Kameraden! Hermosa marcha!