I just watched both videos. I am not a plumber but we are having a pool installed with a gas heater and I wanted to see how these guys in Texas were going to do it. Great video and thanks for putting this out.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Enjoy that pool

I been a gas fitter for years and trained by someone super particular. Here are things I notice based on my career. #1 Tightening into the control valve with a nest of fitting all at once can crack the control valve.The way you did it would sink the threads on one side of the coupling and not so much on the other because you did not hold it with wrench. I would have tightened the coupling on the nipple first then install into valve. I also would have used one piece in NO coupling and lessen the risk of areas to leak. # 2 The pipe dope! Oh man! you had so much of it going inside the pipes that is a no no, it dries and will carry into the control valve over time, the drip leg will not catch it all. You know you should not get pipe dope on first 2 threads to prevent this. # 3 if you were going to purge the line via drip leg, why tighten it in before hand? that makes fittings more prone to leaks if taken off and reinstalled. I know I sound picky but I pride myself on ever aspect of my work. I was glad to see you clean up all the excess pipe dope..I also seen a second video where you did not have a drip leg at the heater and went directly into it yet the job was identical coming from a riser underground.

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother

@zimpler8340

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I saw him put excess pipe dope which will make its way into the pipe and not all be caught by drip leg and possibly clog up the gas valve. I guess that’s called job security LOL

Awesome love to see your boys follow in the trade !!!!

@ChuckBarron

10 ай бұрын

They are all in.

nice work Cb, thank god for that mega press

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Amen!

Hurray for the union!! I like this house too, screened in pool so you dont get eaten by misquitos... Nice job!

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

nice gem of a spot...

CB-1 and CB-2 nice job everything looks great. AB-1 the OG congratulations on your graduation. Peace brother

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

We bout to get this started. Thanks M

Nice professional looking job and it's hard to beat that Mega Press I enjoyed the video well done Chuck

@plumbbuild6517

5 жыл бұрын

And how the new van working out

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Van is sweet. Still have not had time to really set it up....little by little

doping the unions... thats a veteran move if i've ever seen one

@ChuckBarron

Жыл бұрын

right.

ty man been learning a lot

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

nice. thank you.

very nice sharing

CB nice work sir

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Nice job

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hvac

Good job technics. It must be nice to have family in the same line of work . Thank you for this video. Very informative.

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ray.

Do this same setup go for propane from a tank aswell?

Very nice

Chuck you they man

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

We trying. thanks pete

wow... i learned a lot!

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

go plumber.

How much do we love plumbing?!?! 🤙🤙🤙🏄🏄

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

so much I went surfing at the jetty yesterday......So nice too.

solid work. You seem proud. As well you should be.

LOL! I forget the cover all the time.. I put a slice through the cover and attach it that way. Saves taking it back apart ;-) .. That drip/sediment trap is supposed to be 4" total fall. I heard you mumble you grabbed the wrong one, but I stress the 54 code for that. I was blown away by that tool to squeeze the galvanized together. What tool did you use for that? We struggle with 10 different lengths of pipe to make the height match and it is a pain in the rear.

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

I know right....the ridgid propress

I love megapress and propress. Wearing shorts outside looks comfortable. I hate plumbing in shorts in attics and touching peoples floors.

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

has its place.

Chuck I thought the megapress clamps needed to be used on gas?

@ChuckBarron

2 жыл бұрын

Not on this application.

@tracker1ify

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that what he used?

Chuck is galvanized pipe better for gas installation then standard black steel gas pipe? What is the difference?

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

We have to use here along the shore lines. Its code. Salt area is the reason.

If you are still checking this can you explain the use of gas regulators and why one is not needed on the heater branch?

@ChuckBarron

10 ай бұрын

commercial kitchens is where i see them all the time.

Another superb CB job, professional all the way. In your jurisdiction does the inspector have to witness the final gas tight joint leak test? Also, are you required to paint all new piping yellow before acceptance?

Hey CB, did you find any mounting solutions to your van?

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. I am a proud owner of a ford transit. all has been settled and all is good.

Ever use those Chicago Fittings XRisers?

Is that galvanized steel pipe you’re using? I thought you had to only use black steel pipe for gas? And what’s the name of those two elbow compression fittings you used? Can those fittings be used on black steel pipe?

@Broncort1

2 жыл бұрын

It's outdoors and black iron will rust. That's the point of using galvanized pipe.

If lighting hits the tracer wire, will it burn a hole through the underground yellow plastic pipe if it's not separated completely by soil?

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure on that.

@boby115

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron National Code States - install Trace wire along the pipe above or to the side. Contact with the pipe is allowed but should be minimized. Recommended separation 2 to 6 inchs. The wire should be installed continuous with no splicing. Trace wire shall not be taped to the pipe. Trace wire shall not be wrapped around the pipe. Trace wire shall not be connected or in contact with any other foreign installations or other utilities. This is how I understand it and interprete it. What are your thoughts and interpretations?

Do you prefer mega lock over grip paste for gas?

@sal.pizzurro

5 жыл бұрын

I think he uses megalock for everything

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

I use to use grip. Great product. I love mega. You can also clean it up easy. Grip....forget about it.....ha

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

I do.

Cb2 has to use 2 renchis next time when he tights the union because if he don't than he is going to make it loose on the other side

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Oh yes. good point.

Up here in mass we don't install drip tees where it is cold where it can freeze... good job though as always

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

ya about what about the dirt that may be in lines? each state is so different in some ways.

@timhendley1950

4 жыл бұрын

What is going to freeze? I don’t get it.

@unclejohn37

3 жыл бұрын

Really? No drip legs? I am in Alberta , Canada. Well north and it is -40, -50 and have seen -60 degrees and we ALWAYS use drip legs! 100% it does not freeze. What freezes ? the gas :) the oils it catches/ mercaptans?, as it is there for that more so than dirt which should not be in a gas line. I have never heard of not using a drip leg on any job with any amount of distance in piping or a vertical rise.

@boby115

3 жыл бұрын

@@unclejohn37 . Massachusetts is the only one that doesn't follow the National Fuel code on drip legs. I guess they prefer the debris and the water just to go into the expensive gas valve. Massachusetts can not produce any documentation or information of incidents when Outdoor Equipment has drip legs installed. Minnesota, Alaska, Canada and ect (cold states) no problems reported.

What size galvanized pipe are using?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

3/4 galv

Good jobs boys need a worker I’m on my way

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

How many years experience? we need another mechanic

Would you need to install a gas regulator?

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

No sir. Not in this app.

@stevenjacobs6934

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron please explain why not chuck? very curious?

@stevenjacobs6934

3 жыл бұрын

cesar hernandez, what do you think his reasoning is for no regulator....I'm stumped!

@mdinatale12

3 жыл бұрын

The heater regulates itself

e La va un altro cliente soddisfatto CB

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Amen.....I will translate this later in firehouse.....ha

@keithbrueton

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron And there goes another satisfied customer CB

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

aaaa haaaa....you did it for me.....lol

Did you also run the gas line or did you just tie into the meter and the heater? What kind of ballpark range could one expect to pay for this hookup?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

We did all the gas.

don't you need a vibration hose to the unit the vibration hose would be in between the 2 90

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

No. I have used them on generators though. Im sure I could though

? Cb the coupling in the fire box on the heater. IS that code? Heater manufacturers stress there is to be no fitting inside the heater that was not present when the unit was certified . Manufacturer manual or gas code overrides by whoever is more stringent. So that fitting should not be inside the heater as we have been trained via heater manufacturers. I thought it was also national code?

I am 3 weeks in and I have change 2 faucets so far lol

@throttlebottle5906

5 жыл бұрын

lol, I'd like that, the least I have to work the better ;)

@pikjancahani809

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂 nice one buddy keep going

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Man thats awesome....get er done!

Didn’t think you could use galvanized on gas?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Justin, We use galv here along shore because of salt air.

@Justin-bb2hj

3 жыл бұрын

Monkey 75 where I live galvanized pipe is a no go for gas and I’ve only ever seen it used on gas but a homeowner who doesn’t know what he’s doing lol but apparently it’s allowed in some locations like around salt water. Makes sense I just assumed it couldn’t be used for some unforeseen safety issue.

nice job at heater sloppy job at the house Pipe should be closer to the house major trip hazard

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Noted. thanks alex...

Nice job on piping in the pool heater but the piping at the gas meter does not come close to meeting the National Fuel code. Underground fuel runs need it's own shut off , insulated Union & pressure tap tee ( used for pressure testing the underground line). We had a feeling in the gas industry people would get carried away using the Megapress / ProPress. Still need unions at the appliances and components such as risers.

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Im gonna have to look into that. I did pass all inspections so now Im gonna need to still look into it.

@boby115

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron I could tell you are a very good plumber / pipefitter by the way you tied in the pool heater and keep all your lines level and plumb. As for as tying in the gas meter I'm sure you would agree it makes sense to have a shut off , tee for pressure test ,a union ( gas industry likes to see an insulated Union to keep the electrolysis off the riser) & then tie the riser in. Now everything is easy, put a gauge on your pressure test tee , have your shut offs off ( easy pressure test ). Need to come back and replace a riser because the customer's Sprinkler Company necked it ( no problem, disconnect the union put a new riser in ). Pool Company calls in a poor gas pressure at the pool heater, no problem ( drop your drip leg hook up a manometer turn on the heater and if you're around 7 inchs water column, no problem - it's the pool heater ). Get some kind of wacky pressure like 3 inch water column , no problem hook up manometers at your pressure test tee and at the drip leg ; 3inchs at the drip leg and 7inchs at the pressure test tee ( Some kind of a debris or water is in the line ).3 inch at the pressure tap tee ,3inchs at the heater ( Gas company has a problem). Who would think just a shut off valve, Union and a pressure test tee could make life easier? I have No Doubt your installation passed the municipal inspection. The inspectors only know what they know. But with people like you willing to take the time and provide videos like this one we can all learn from each other. Keep up the good work.

@nspro931

4 жыл бұрын

What code are you citing re: underground run needing its own shutoff and pressure tap?

@boby115

4 жыл бұрын

@@nspro931 . National Fuel code. A typical Riser installation would be #1 a shut off valve ( cock ) coming off the fuel run side of the meter set.#2 installation of a tee for a pressure tap.#3 installation of an insulated Union ( to give the Riser cathodic protection ; ground joint unions give no protection).#4 installation of the riser, paying attention to the depth mark on riser ( not to be below grade). Now let's imagine a future problem. Pressure test now made easy- turn the cock off, install gauge at tee, turn cock back on and back off ( you are now pressure testing the underground fuel run). Poor pressure >test made easy( install gauges at pressure test tee & at drip leg of appliance)- run Appliance and if the pressures are normal at both gauges the problem is with the appliance, if the pressure at the test tee is normal and the pressure at the drip leg is low, the problem is with the fuel run ( debris, kink or ect.). Let's imagine you need to replace the riser with that insulated Union in place, could I make it any easier for you? How would your installation look?

@morganali9636

3 жыл бұрын

@@nspro931 not all cities require it. but it's standard practice for safety reasons and isolation reason to install a shutoff valve. it's cheap, it makes sense and in an emergency super uber easier to shutoff that section vs the meter valve and you can keep gas to your house while working on the line as well

and paint the gas line threads ?

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

No its galv pipe. Maybe on black pipe.

@cliftonwinkler1460

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron but the thread will rust, all I know it that it wouldn't pass in most places

@johnkrim8377

4 жыл бұрын

There not galvanized anymore , not after threads have been cut.

@cliftonwinkler1460

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnkrim8377 it it wouldn't pass where I'm from

29:30, do you think you're cleaning a car!

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

checking for leaks....then the car is next. ha.

Don't you need a gas regulator ?

@solaj22

2 жыл бұрын

The regulator at the house is already at 6” to 10” WC.

You forgot the cover!

@ChuckBarron

5 жыл бұрын

oh but I did. I did install it too.

no regulator?????

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

on gas meter. regulates entire home.

@stevenjacobs6934

3 жыл бұрын

Ohh, my psi is dropped to 2psig before the meter...I'm guessing that the house in the vid is dropped to .5 ...I would think that low of pressure would have a hard time traveling that long distance to the heater...love your vids , keep em coming!

@morganali9636

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenjacobs6934 well, before the regulator it should be like 5 psi or more then after the regulator its dropped to 2 psi the after the meter it drops to 1/4 to 1/2 psi

No support on the pipe huh. You know soap and water isn’t adequate to check for leaks right.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

soap and water is no bueno? is that a code....we air tested it. I always use soap and hot water when possible on final connections.

@losferwords100

3 жыл бұрын

Never once had soapy water not find a leak so I'd say it's pretty damn 'adequate' lol. Pressure test initial piping obviously and then soapy water on final connections.

Why didn't you come closer to the house with the run to the heater? Oh yes... it's not your house who cares.

@ChuckBarron

10 ай бұрын

lol, funny boy.

What size galvanized pipe are using?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

3/4 galv