NASA's in Trouble

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NASA is the primary means through which US astronomy is funded, which in turn leads astronomy globally. But significant cuts to NASA this year are hurting programs across the board, and many worry that the future looks grim for NASA's astronomy programs due to two growing problems on its horizon. Join us as we explore what's happening and what you can do.
Written & presented by Prof. David Kipping. Special thanks to Grant Tremblay for useful information in preparing this video.
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THANK-YOU to D. Smith, M. Sloan, L. Sanborn, C. Bottaccini, D. Daughaday, A. Jones, S. Brownlee, N. Kildal, Z. Star, E. West, T. Zajonc, C. Wolfred, L. Skov, G. Benson, A. De Vaal, M. Elliott, B. Daniluk, S. Vystoropskyi, S. Lee, Z. Danielson, C. Fitzgerald, C. Souter, M. Gillette, T. Jeffcoat, J. Rockett, D. Murphree, M. Sanford, T. Donkin, K. Myers, A. Schoen, K. Dabrowski, J. Black, R. Ramezankhani, J. Armstrong, K. Weber, S. Marks, L. Robinson, S. Roulier, B. Smith, J. Cassese, J. Kruger, S. Way, P. Finch, S. Applegate, L. Watson, E. Zahnle, N. Gebben, J. Bergman, E. Dessoi, C. Macdonald, M. Hedlund, P. Kaup, C. Hays, W. Evans, D. Bansal, J. Curtin, J. Sturm, RAND Corp., M. Donovan, N. Corwin, M. Mangione, K. Howard, L. Deacon, G. Metts, R. Provost, B. Sigurjonsson, G. Fullwood, B. Walford, J. Boyd, N. De Haan, J. Gillmer, R. Williams, E. Garland, A. Leishman, A. Phan Le, R. Lovely, M. Spoto, A. Steele, K. Yarbrough, A. Cornejo, D. Compos, F. Demopoulos, G. Bylinsky, J. Werner, B. Pearson, S. Thayer, T. Edris, B. Seeley, F. Blood, M. O'Brien, P. Muzyka, D. Lee, J. Sargent, M. Czirr, F. Krotzer, I. Williams, J. Sattler, J. Smallbon, B. Reese, J. Yoder, O. Shabtay, X. Yao, S. Saverys, M. Pittelli, A. Nimmerjahn, C. Seay, D. Johnson, L. Cunningham, M. Morrow, M. Campbell, R. Strain, B. Devermont, Y. Muheim & A. Stark.
REFERENCES
► NASA budget figures spreadsheet: t.co/kt8pE0anCT
► Rasmussen, S. 2023, "Has the Last Great Space Observatory Already Launched?", Scientific American: www.scientificamerican.com/ar...
► HST & Beyond Committee Report 1996: www.stsci.edu/stsci/org/hst-a...
► NASA IRB JWST Report 2018: www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploa...
► Reichhardt, T. 2006, "Is the next big thing too big?", Nature: www.nature.com/articles/440140a
► Elvis, M. 2016, "What Can Space Resources do for Astronomy and Planetary Science?", Space Policy, 37, 65: arxiv.org/pdf/1608.01004
► Van Belle, G., 2021, "The Scaling Relationship Between Telescope Cost and Aperture Size for Very
Large Telescopes", Proceedings of the SPIE, 5489, 563: arxiv.org/pdf/2107.09605
MUSIC
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0:00 Hill - A Slowly Lifting Fog
3:36 Hill - Unhurried
5:58 Chris Zabriskie - Music From Neptune Flux 4
8:29 Hill - World of Wonder
11:18 Falls - Life in Binary
15:27 Chris Zabriskie - Music From Neptune Flux 1
18;24 Joachim Heinrich - Y
20:42 Indive - Fusion
CHAPTERS
0:00 Astronomy Funding
5:58 Incogni
7:18 Crisis Ahead
20:42 Outro & Credits
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  • @AndDiracisHisProphet
    @AndDiracisHisProphetАй бұрын

    as a non-american I want to thank the american people for funding NASA, that gave us, humanity, so much knowledge and beauty.

  • @BanterRanterr

    @BanterRanterr

    29 күн бұрын

    Same 🙋

  • @_barncat

    @_barncat

    29 күн бұрын

    now we're too busy paying for sex changes and free hotel rooms for illegals

  • @princememphis7726

    @princememphis7726

    29 күн бұрын

    You're welcome

  • @goldnutter412

    @goldnutter412

    29 күн бұрын

    I would push back and say.. What this guy said. People actually have no idea.. Webb was all they needed. The process began long ago, now things reorganize as they always do after fundamental experiments. Cold Atom Lab and Webb together revealed the truth about reality, undeniable but everyone is indoctrinated in old "knowledge". NASA *know* that going anywhere even past Mars is so far from feasible and people are thinking we're about to do that ? it's gonna be easy I mean how far could it be ? NASA will always be the best. Outsourcing to SpaceX.. and anyone who can keep up, for the capitalism effect. Then we get a permanent moon base, and can casually stroll to Mars. Nothing to fear but fear.

  • @theoneway22

    @theoneway22

    29 күн бұрын

    As an American, i feel that i am over qualified to say that, your thanks is cute and all but not welcome. Please fill out the linked forms and stand by to receive a bill. Failure to pay or to set up a payment arrangement will result in your maximum data speed for all devices connected to your extended family of 3G. Also you will meet the fine collection of human beings known as the A.T F..

  • @michaelt1357
    @michaelt1357Ай бұрын

    I often wonder what NASA might have achieved by now if they weren't criminally underfunded. Imagine a world where funding space exploration is a priority. I want to live in that world.

  • @marcusbriggs3223

    @marcusbriggs3223

    Ай бұрын

    People need to be educated on the abundance of space. Every resource we could ever want or need is out there. Yet we waste our money and time on slaughtering each other.

  • @LukasLeichtl

    @LukasLeichtl

    Ай бұрын

    You familiar with the show ''For All Mankind'?

  • @aserta

    @aserta

    Ай бұрын

    You can thank Reaganism for that and of course ruzz paid for repubs. They have a vested interested to ruin NASA.

  • @l_Ryan_l

    @l_Ryan_l

    Ай бұрын

    The irony of this comment😅 650+ billion spent of tax payers money...

  • @THETRIVIALTHINGS

    @THETRIVIALTHINGS

    Ай бұрын

    In a world where people are homeless and starving while billionaires waste their money on superfluous garbage and puppet governments funding WMD's, space exploration isn't a priority until it profits a billionaire or a government.

  • @vikrantpulipati1451
    @vikrantpulipati1451Ай бұрын

    I dont mean to get political, but maybe we should stop voting for politicians who support gutting science?

  • @shutup-gc2yk

    @shutup-gc2yk

    29 күн бұрын

    Joey G3noc1de is too busy funding murd3r, apparently.

  • @foshyurgason

    @foshyurgason

    28 күн бұрын

    This is 100% political. Countries need to stop invading others so we can focus on putting funding into things like astronautics and not into defending our civilians from lunatic power hungry dictators like Putin. We need to work together as countries rather than playing take back-sees to land you think is your own all the sudden

  • @Isaac306mx

    @Isaac306mx

    28 күн бұрын

    100% correct, it’s the feature to keep us in the lead and force evolution! I wonder if they are so greedy that they don’t care or so ignorant they can’t see it.

  • @legibby

    @legibby

    28 күн бұрын

    Like the science behind Covid

  • @legibby

    @legibby

    28 күн бұрын

    Science is but a passing fable - Herman Melville said that. Meaning the story is a constantly changing one.

  • @inf3243
    @inf3243Ай бұрын

    I remember reading a while ago that NASA's yearly budget is less than the US Army paid for air conditioning for one year in Afghanistan.

  • @CoolWorldsLab

    @CoolWorldsLab

    Ай бұрын

    Ugh

  • @donaldcarpenter5328

    @donaldcarpenter5328

    25 күн бұрын

    or something just as absurd.

  • @chistopherr7536

    @chistopherr7536

    24 күн бұрын

    Or how about the fact the US annual defence budget is more than NASAs entire lifetime budget.

  • @MrZenmancer

    @MrZenmancer

    24 күн бұрын

    Yes, also only half as much as all the money they gave to Ukraine. The salaries of those 500 NASA employees were only half the cost of the money Joe biden gave to Hamas last year.

  • @podunkest

    @podunkest

    12 күн бұрын

    My replies keep disappearing everywhere I go... but I doubt they spent 25 billion dollars on air conditioning in one year, but your point is still valid. The military probably wastes more in a year than NASA spends. The US military budget is approx 800 billion, NASA's has been hovering around the 23-25 range. It's absurd for someone like me. My country used to pride itself on being an exemplary nation, or at least trying to, especially in science, technology and global achievements. Now all we care about are profits, people's personal lives and preferences and consumption, comfort and entertainment. I feel like the film Idiocracy is becoming a reality every day.

  • @telotawa
    @telotawaАй бұрын

    JWST still cost less than digging a hole under Boston.

  • @HanSolo__

    @HanSolo__

    Ай бұрын

    Cites of the US have multiple problems. You can't just fix those. No money can. It would be cheaper to start over again in another place. Build cities the European way with fewer highways more public transport, more bike commuting and more places you can walk. Meet people. The far-away suburbs' costs are too high. That's why the infrastructure fails. You can't make a tarmac-paved road to connect a single-family house. Placed kilometres away from the main road.

  • @techteampxla2950

    @techteampxla2950

    Ай бұрын

    At least we see the hole and there is no room for mis-information on “ultimate reality” topics We don’t know what they are telling us is tru or reality

  • @FightGPT

    @FightGPT

    29 күн бұрын

    Also a crappy 20 mile rail in Honolulu.

  • @dylanhecker6686

    @dylanhecker6686

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@HanSolo__the infamous construction project called "the big dig" in Boston. He's talking about corruption more so than infrastructure costs.

  • @HanSolo__

    @HanSolo__

    26 күн бұрын

    @@dylanhecker6686 I am aware of it. The thing is big corporate money used to drive the US cities to more roads, them more and then even more. All of it just to buy cars and burn gasoline while stuck in a traffic jam. Thats high-end corruption because its legal.

  • @STR82DVD
    @STR82DVDАй бұрын

    It always amazes me how little is spent on our collective future.

  • @sadderwhiskeymann

    @sadderwhiskeymann

    Ай бұрын

    agree! but it amazes me even more how much all countries spend on weapons to kill each other 10 times over :(

  • @owenelmburg6362

    @owenelmburg6362

    Ай бұрын

    Our country saddens me now

  • @STR82DVD

    @STR82DVD

    Ай бұрын

    @@owenelmburg6362 Your country saddens me now.

  • @scottmichael1493

    @scottmichael1493

    Ай бұрын

    They were to busy stealing from our collective future

  • @0xmoo

    @0xmoo

    Ай бұрын

    incoming comments of "Focus on your own planet first"

  • @Spaceflightlover2010
    @Spaceflightlover2010Ай бұрын

    A lot of people who worked on these types of projects have either retired or passed away. Very few people are aware of the degree of experience and skill required to make precision optics. CNC work and AI is filling in some of the gaps, but the field still requires capable human workers in most cases. It is literally an art form and can take decades to master. The craftsmen and master opticians who did this work rarely were given time to train their replacements because of schedule constraints, and over time, because of changes in the industry and offshoring, fewer people saw the field as attractive, so the pool of trainees steadily grew smaller. I was a master optician who worked on projects for most of the large earth based astronomical telescopes operating globally, as well as some NASA components. I retired a year and a half ago after a long career. On my retirement, sadly, it appeared that I had a career during a golden age that has since passed. Administrators and the scientific community had better realize that the technical workforce capable of completing these projects is an endangered species at this point and should take action to preserve their fields and the skillsets needed to complete this kind of work. It is absolutely disappearing as you read this.

  • @TheSteveSteele

    @TheSteveSteele

    18 күн бұрын

    Yes! That is exactly what I’ve been telling people for years. You nailed it. Unfortunately most people can’t imagine what you’re talking about. But you are exactly correct.

  • @stephenballoch8660
    @stephenballoch8660Ай бұрын

    I don't remember who did the analysis, but i recall a figure of ROI to be 1$ invested in nasa during the Apollo era returned something like $6-$7 in gdp growth. Why dont our politicians see it in that light?

  • @CoolWorldsLab

    @CoolWorldsLab

    Ай бұрын

    Great point

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    Ай бұрын

    Excellent point.

  • @steelerfaninperu

    @steelerfaninperu

    Ай бұрын

    That was back when acknowledging science made political sense. We had to beat the rooskies. Now you've got half the congress flat out denying science because it's more politically convenient since they can keep getting oil & gas checks as long as climate change is a hoax. You can't denounce science while also funding it.

  • @Bildgesmythe

    @Bildgesmythe

    Ай бұрын

    Plus our fun toys came from the tech

  • @staebs

    @staebs

    Ай бұрын

    It doesn’t make money for the rich. It shouldn’t be that simple but it is unfortunately.

  • @_D3adB0y_
    @_D3adB0y_Ай бұрын

    Your first mistake was thinking the people in Congress wanted anything other than money in their own pockets.

  • @codys447

    @codys447

    Ай бұрын

    No, they want power and influence too, which means they need to be reelected and conform to lobbying. Putting lobbying pressure (lobbying by definition does not necessarily involve money - a petition is lobbying) is a part of getting change, so don't give up.

  • @livingart2576

    @livingart2576

    Ай бұрын

    How can you say “no” followed by “they want power and influence too”?😂 By using the word “too” you are acknowledging his statement therefore agreeing with it. You should have said “yes but they also want power and influence”.👍

  • @paularanya8726

    @paularanya8726

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@livingart2576 ok

  • @codys447

    @codys447

    Ай бұрын

    @@livingart2576 He said "anything other than money"

  • @TheHonestPeanut

    @TheHonestPeanut

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@codys447 Money is power, pedant.

  • @Riftwalker84
    @Riftwalker84Ай бұрын

    We've forgotten who we are. We used to look up in the sky and wonder at our place in the stars... Now we just look down and worry about our place in the dirt -Interstellar

  • @hawkdsl

    @hawkdsl

    Ай бұрын

    That was a great line from that movie.

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    Ай бұрын

    “FORgotten?”

  • @jonb7700

    @jonb7700

    Ай бұрын

    I would amend that to say "now all we do is look down at our phones"

  • @MrGoombasticveryFantastic

    @MrGoombasticveryFantastic

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@jonb7700lmao I was just gonna say that our species has turned into.phone zombies

  • @Simp_Zone

    @Simp_Zone

    Ай бұрын

    Uhhhhh might want to edit that first sentence so that it makes any sense at all.

  • @myleswillis
    @myleswillisАй бұрын

    Microsoft should step up with the cash to save Chandra. They could rename it Chandra Bing.

  • @sookendestroy1

    @sookendestroy1

    Ай бұрын

    Theyre too buzy buying farmland and making ai spying tools for their own operating systems

  • @zntei2374

    @zntei2374

    29 күн бұрын

    Microsoft does indeed have the leading Edge.

  • @4077Disc
    @4077DiscАй бұрын

    I used to work manufacturing new types of heat shields for NASA (specifically the Earth Entry Vehicle for the Mars Sample Return) at work. Now I am working on a new manufacturing technique to allow for the "mass production" of hypersonic glide body missiles. Kinda sums up the vibe of this video nicely... big sad...

  • @garythecyclingnerd6219

    @garythecyclingnerd6219

    6 күн бұрын

    With inflation, hard to blame anyone passing up on low NASA wages

  • @birbeyboop
    @birbeyboopАй бұрын

    Keep in mind that US government spending is not limited by the amount of money brought in through taxation every year, the only thing stopping Congress from spending more on NASA is a complete negligent lack of priorities. This lack of priorities is, obviously, most likely inspired by personal financial gain.

  • @abody499

    @abody499

    Ай бұрын

    you know the score

  • @stateazure

    @stateazure

    Ай бұрын

    'Christians make up 88% of the voting members of the new 118th Congress being sworn in on Jan. 3' - You don't think that percentage of religious in congress has something to do with it?

  • @CharliMorganMusic

    @CharliMorganMusic

    Ай бұрын

    I was just thinking this. We have as much money as the collective world thinks we have.

  • @NeostormXLMAX

    @NeostormXLMAX

    Ай бұрын

    They need to fund more wars

  • @abody499

    @abody499

    Ай бұрын

    @@CharliMorganMusic as much as we want to print. when it's for war, no problem. when it's for making the line go up, no problem. when it's for investment in knowledge, understanding, and the future, no way

  • @canister6344
    @canister6344Ай бұрын

    Increasing NASA's budget never hurt the people on earth, but the opposite.

  • @itsmichaelnotmike

    @itsmichaelnotmike

    Ай бұрын

    It hurt the people off of earth?

  • @nsblur-ve1td

    @nsblur-ve1td

    Ай бұрын

    @@itsmichaelnotmike Lmao no silly, it hurt the people on venus.

  • @canister6344

    @canister6344

    Ай бұрын

    @@itsmichaelnotmike yeah it hurts the people on mars what I meant is that many every day items we use were invented by NASA

  • @MmTriplem

    @MmTriplem

    Ай бұрын

    lol😂

  • @compromisedssh

    @compromisedssh

    Ай бұрын

    RIP Challenger. They didn't make it to space, but they got to leave the surface.

  • @catchphase
    @catchphase25 күн бұрын

    Cordless power tools are a prime example of why we should be investing in space travel and astronomy. Astronauts needed to be able to use power tools, but, obviously, power outlets aren't very common in the vacuum of space. Someone (Black and Decker) came up with the idea for a battery operated tool, so that workers could use tools without needing a 20m long power cord reaching from the kitchen up to the roof. NASA invested in the tech, and they were able to use cordless power tools There are so many other examples, like memory foam, vacuum cleaners, portable cameras, wireless headphones... even the Jaws of Life that will sav your life if you get stuck in a vehicle accident, were all invented (or workshopped/developed/invested in) because of the need for those tools in space and/or astronomy. It's crazy to think that the US government puts more stock in redundant fighter jets than doubling the budget of an organisation that is responsible for so many quality of life improvements, AND will some day play a major role in getting us off this space rock, or saving this space rock from a cosmic disaster. I am just an outsider (Australian), but with the US being such a big part of global politics and economics, I hate seeing some of the things that the government is doing to the country. Invest in science, not war (when you already have the strongest military in the world). P.S. Please stop shilling your nuclear submarines to Australia, we don't have enough money, but our government just wants more toys and is willing to throw us into billions of dollars of debt and/or start hyperinflation just so we can get them. Thank you.

  • @garythecyclingnerd6219

    @garythecyclingnerd6219

    6 күн бұрын

    Australia was going to buy French subs in absence of the US ones. Don’t blame Americans for your government buying submarines. Frankly, you probably need them because you’re going to watch China light up Taiwan by 2030

  • @drhxa
    @drhxa27 күн бұрын

    I reached out to my local reps (House and Senate) via email to save Chandra and a couple did respond after a week or so. This was ~1 mo ago and took me 2 min to send via email. It's worth it guys and it really matters.

  • @DominatorHDX
    @DominatorHDXАй бұрын

    Wish we lived in a world without war, hunger, poverty etc. and the comon long term goal of all the people and countries in the world would be exploring the universe.

  • @NIL0S

    @NIL0S

    Ай бұрын

    I wish that too.

  • @joshf9074

    @joshf9074

    Ай бұрын

    Don’t worry our machines will when we are long gone less than 100 years from now.

  • @birbeyboop

    @birbeyboop

    Ай бұрын

    It can never be done so long as the massive private entities that own the government and profit off of war spending continue to exist.

  • @teddyblomstrom8876

    @teddyblomstrom8876

    Ай бұрын

    We could… We just probably wont

  • @dayegilharno4988

    @dayegilharno4988

    Ай бұрын

    @@joshf9074 :) "Our" machines will likely be as stupid as we and will find the most effective way to turn the whole galaxy into "numbers go up"... I just hope the Buddhists are correct in the assumption that consciousness will arise wherever the conditions exist to digest all those karmic burdens we're sowing right now.

  • @Maphisto86
    @Maphisto86Ай бұрын

    In our socioeconomic reality, only the ultrawealthy are meant to dream and play. The rest of us do the day to day work and are told to be grateful we have just that.

  • @ASDeckard

    @ASDeckard

    Ай бұрын

    I mean you could have been born literally at any other point in human history if you would have preferred. Being levied into an Egyptian army must have been a real improvement from being a serf.

  • @Maphisto86

    @Maphisto86

    Ай бұрын

    @@ASDeckard OK . . . So are you giving me the “love it or leave it” line? Only instead of what country I live in, it is what time in history? I guess I should tune up my time machine. 🙄 Don’t get me wrong. I love to live in a world where the germ theory of disease is mainstream, I really do. Yet just because we are living in a unprecedented time of relative plenty doesn’t mean we aren’t in trouble. Nor that we can do a whole lot better as a species.

  • @ChopperChad

    @ChopperChad

    Ай бұрын

    Bullshit

  • @joshuagharis9017

    @joshuagharis9017

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Maphisto86amen. They drank the kool-aid big time. Capitalism sucks period. Is it better than feudalism? Course, but it doesn't justify its shittiness

  • @joshuagharis9017

    @joshuagharis9017

    Ай бұрын

    Why is Elon doing NASA? One man, WAY TOO much power

  • @ozne_2358
    @ozne_2358Ай бұрын

    I would also like to point out the massive Mars overspending, at the expense of all other planetary exploration : no Neptune/Uranus orbiter, Europa and Titan pushed far into the future, no Enceladus, etc. etc. My low point was the choice of Mars Insight, yet another Mars mission, over Titan Mare a mission to Titan's oceans : I lost a lot of faith in the whole process.

  • @Zeron108

    @Zeron108

    Ай бұрын

    I agree and also the mars sample return mission is ludicrously expensive and should be scrapped and that money put into other planetary exploration the worlds you mentioned particularly Cassini style missions to Uranus or Neptune.

  • @donaldcarpenter5328

    @donaldcarpenter5328

    25 күн бұрын

    Yes, I agree.

  • @TheSteveSteele

    @TheSteveSteele

    18 күн бұрын

    I somewhat agree. A Uranus/Neptune mission, which would have to happen at an exact point in time if it was a single mission, would be my first choice. Those planets are far away, and the entire mission might take 20 years or so, (I’m just guessing), but it would be interesting. Not sure Congress would approve funding for a mission that takes that long with no immediate payoff. The Jupiter and Saturn moon missions would probably be a lot more popular and definitely worth funding. They would be the clear follow up to Juno and Cassini. But, I think Mars missions are important if we are actually planning on going there within the next 20 years. There’s still a lot to learn about Mars. I’m glad NASA has sent one mission after another to Mars. It was a fantastic plan back in the ‘90s when NASA’s budget was cut so deep that they had to make those kinds of decisions. Compared to 1990, we know a LOT more about Mars now. Only the twin Viking missions gave us much data. Actually I’d like to see NASA attempt to land on Venus. It would be a PR stunt, but maybe new technologies would be developed for that mission.

  • @KeelanJon
    @KeelanJonАй бұрын

    When we strip away all the earthly bs, exploring our cosmos and discoving our place in it is the only thing that really matters. It's such as shame not every human on this earth can come to the same conclusion.

  • @tygical

    @tygical

    Ай бұрын

    this is exactly how i've always thought

  • @mattpike7268

    @mattpike7268

    29 күн бұрын

    Lots of humans on earth can't even decide what gender they feel like on a day to day basis.

  • @sadderwhiskeymann
    @sadderwhiskeymannАй бұрын

    I live in Greece and although my country has many bad things to say about America, I've always respected and admired your country BECAUSE of NASA. I really hope NASA will keep thriving and lead my dreams ❤

  • @VioletGiraffe

    @VioletGiraffe

    Ай бұрын

    I don't live either in the U. S. nor in Greece, genuinely curious: what did the U. S. ever do to Greece for you to say bad things?

  • @sadderwhiskeymann

    @sadderwhiskeymann

    Ай бұрын

    @@VioletGiraffe it's about politics. i was never into politics so i cannot give you a clear answer. maybe we view them as nosey-war lovers. and someting about their culture makes some greeks to use "american" as derogatory. don't ask me what! (I even had a teacher in school who said that the only good thing they came up with was denim jeans!)

  • @scottcohen1776

    @scottcohen1776

    Ай бұрын

    ​@sadderwhiskeymann Greece is in the clear, you don't have oil under your country 😅

  • @mountainhobo

    @mountainhobo

    Ай бұрын

    "although my country has many bad things to say about America" -- We have something to say to Greece as well: "Get a job!"

  • @hawkdsl

    @hawkdsl

    Ай бұрын

    You can say bad things about the US. Europe in general has said bad things about the US sense it's independence. No biggie. Despite that, we'll be here if you ever need us... because there is allot of American blood in ground over there already.

  • @TheOneStoneAngell
    @TheOneStoneAngellАй бұрын

    Sir, I worked on the refurbishment of the O&C building back in 08/09. I don’t think people realize how much NASA spends on infrastructure, building that were constructed 50 or 60 years ago. Also I think NASA has lost its way, they have top engineers, but very poor managers making day to day decisions.

  • @autumnleaves7907

    @autumnleaves7907

    Ай бұрын

    Managers ruin everything. Something that is sadly not unique to NASA

  • @hawkdsl

    @hawkdsl

    Ай бұрын

    NASA management is politically appointed. I would strongly disagree that NASA has "lost it's way". They have an exploration agenda, however too many hands pull NASA's strings. NASA goals shift with the political winds. Without a National mandate, like the Apollo program, they do what they can. The regular public doesn't see NASA as a necessary agency, and probably never will.

  • @rabidwallaby84

    @rabidwallaby84

    Ай бұрын

    When you're criminally underfunded, and subject to the whims of Congress, that's going to happen.

  • @mejuliie

    @mejuliie

    Ай бұрын

    @@rabidwallaby84 Funding isn't going to change that money is wasted in a poorly designed agency structure. NASA has a lengthy history of going way over budget and being lax at best when it comes to hitting targeted launch dates. This is not okay, and should not be tolerated. One can agree that NASA should receive more funding, while at the same time acknowledging that agency structure and culture have to change. Something which should happen before deciding to throw more money at the agency. At the end of the day, wasting taxes should never be tolerated. NASA needs an overhaul, and needs to start providing realistic expectations and numbers to re-establish trust (within Congress).

  • @Mark_Jacobson81

    @Mark_Jacobson81

    28 күн бұрын

    Yeah the engineers probably make hardly anything in comparison to the “managers” = overpaid bureaucrats.

  • @davidtatro7457
    @davidtatro7457Ай бұрын

    It's almost astonishing to think what our space programs could be accomplishing if they had even half the budget of a typical military program. For example, the totally unnecessary 1.7 TRILLION dollar F35 program.

  • @sookendestroy1

    @sookendestroy1

    Ай бұрын

    Ahem the f35 is based

  • @72APTU72E

    @72APTU72E

    Ай бұрын

    F-22 was a waste, the F-35 is an investment.

  • @mattpike7268

    @mattpike7268

    29 күн бұрын

    The F35 program was undeniably worth every single penny.

  • @LackofFaithify

    @LackofFaithify

    26 күн бұрын

    @@mattpike7268 It's penny count is still going way up, and all you have to do is take a look at the Block III upgrades to see how well that program is doing. Most of the time the more items of a thing you buy, you get a cheaper per unit price. With F-35, the more you buy, the more the per unit price increases. It's kinda nuts.

  • @donaldcarpenter5328

    @donaldcarpenter5328

    25 күн бұрын

    Those OTHER nations wanted a JSF why didn't THEY help PAY to DEVELOP that boondoggle? Should have stuck with the F-22 Raptor which runs rings around the F-35!

  • @abhijeetbrahmbhatt8135
    @abhijeetbrahmbhatt813529 күн бұрын

    It's really sad to see what's going on. The U.S. seems to be slipping, cutting back on science funding while countries in the East are boosting their research budgets. A big part of the problem is the younger generation here; they seem more focused on OnlyFans, TikTok, and Instagram than on science and innovation. This shift in priorities is making the government cut science funding to chase social media attention and votes. It's a shame to see more money going into social media campaigns than into crucial research. Thanks to NASA for all the amazing work despite these challenges.

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655Ай бұрын

    Insane how they cut 2 billion from the budget while paying 60 billion to military every month

  • @James-qh7cm

    @James-qh7cm

    Ай бұрын

    And giving 100s of billions to ukriane. Kind of mad

  • @alessioatta762

    @alessioatta762

    Ай бұрын

    Unfortunely we without Money there Is no Freedom

  • @DemolitionManDemolishes

    @DemolitionManDemolishes

    Ай бұрын

    Without military NASA wouldnt be able to function. This video is a bit disingenuous in the way it presents info. Comparing NASA annual budget with Musk net worth is plain wrong.

  • @James-qh7cm

    @James-qh7cm

    Ай бұрын

    @@alessioatta762 freedom for Ukraine but that doesn't concern 99% of the world. Sadly

  • @alessioatta762

    @alessioatta762

    Ай бұрын

    @@James-qh7cm yes i agree, we should do more to push ahead our interest and be proactive like Russian and chinese propaganda machina does, instead we are on a waiter stance

  • @Alexanders-Type-I-Civilization
    @Alexanders-Type-I-CivilizationАй бұрын

    It always saddens me to hear that collective taxes are being held from scientific research for the future of mankind, our future, and shifted to sectors that has nothing to do with improving evolution and the well being of our lives, like military industrial complex, media corporations, publicity promoting and marketing sector. Finally the stupidity of our leaders has a real impact on our most brightest people in science. Such same. Is this really the best we can do? Being slaves to an economic system that slowly strangle us to the point of no return?

  • @ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw

    @ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw

    Ай бұрын

    If it is any consolation, the USSR had the same problem. Once you create a powerful industry at the expense of the state then keeping that industry in existence becomes a reason of its own. The resistance of the Soviet military industrial complex through its representatives in the Party and Politburo were what made it hard for Gorbatschov to enact reforms to the Soviet state in the 80's.

  • @cyberfunk3793

    @cyberfunk3793

    Ай бұрын

    You think defense has nothing to do with the wellbeing of our lives? What would your life be, if everytime your country was in conflict, you had surrendered before? Defense spending is actually needed and every person living in the country benefits from it. You can debate what is the right amount of course. Things like space exploration, culture etc. are interesting to many, but many tax payers also could not care less and would rather have that money used on things like social services and affordable housing. Space exploration is a nice thing to have, but it doesn't put food on the table of poor people so it's obviously a low budget priority and should be such. The people that wish to do this, should lobby more private funding and companies like Space-x. The public budget of a country in debt should have only items that benefit all of it's people or at least very large groups.

  • @junodeer

    @junodeer

    Ай бұрын

    @@cyberfunk3793 "You think defense has nothing to do with the wellbeing of our lives?" Nobody is saying that, but lets be honest, 916 billion for defence and elon musk type people is why there is so little money elsewhere for other things... like social security.

  • @cyberfunk3793

    @cyberfunk3793

    Ай бұрын

    @@junodeer Yes, the exact size of the defense budget is debatable. If other countries on the planet were like EU, Canada and Australia, obviously you could have a very tiny defense budget. But because we have countries like North-Korea, China, Russia and Iran the budget is actually needed. There is a certain deterrence effect with the budget size, when your enemies think they have no chance, they don't even try and that saves lives. So if you for example cut the budget in half and that would embolden China to invade Taiwan and American soldiers would die in the resulting war, what would be the cost benefit for those saved budget dollars vs. the lives lost? It's an extremely difficult question to answer.

  • @staebs

    @staebs

    Ай бұрын

    @@cyberfunk3793stop drinking the US propaganda koolaid. China is not out to get you. The US is the aggressor in all of these cases. Spent billions on toppling a socialist revolution in Iran and installed a fascist. Aggresses China by putting Us military bases in Taiwan right on their doorstep. They do this to protect capital for the rich oligarchs of the US while the average citizens suffer.

  • @reaktor55
    @reaktor553 күн бұрын

    If we decided to do other things in the past we would be at a different level now, but our perception of the current state of things would just be that: Now is now. The failure to get things done and right in the past means that our current now will have a significant invisible price attached to it. I'm pretty sure the price is huge too: We haven't solved cancer/poverty/aging/fusion and going multiplanetary even though we could. We keep failing like that, and it keeps being invisible to people who only see the current state and not the whole picture. Further defunding of NASA is just further giving up for no reason at all.

  • @nedflanders3769
    @nedflanders376913 күн бұрын

    Talking to a politician about the importance of space exploration is about as fruitful as talking to a wall.

  • @benjaminmllerjensen8705
    @benjaminmllerjensen8705Ай бұрын

    If 60% of Americans think being ahead in space exploration is of high importance, it seems the budget cuts do not reflect the population at all and are simply a mistake. Especially if it's true that those 60 are somewhat evenly distributed between the two parties they have. I am not American, but I really hope reaching out to politicians works. I am a huge fan of NASA's projects. Cheers from Denmark.

  • @sookendestroy1

    @sookendestroy1

    Ай бұрын

    60% means nothing because the 40% are much much louder and active in politics, lobbying, propaganda and campaigning.

  • @pjpopp7024

    @pjpopp7024

    Ай бұрын

    Our elected officials stopped representing their constituents s long time ago.

  • @Pop-zb3wr

    @Pop-zb3wr

    Ай бұрын

    Democracy isn't real.

  • @ullrich

    @ullrich

    Ай бұрын

    It's one thing to say that you think something is important on a pole, but something else entirely when you have to take some sort of action to make that happen. In other words, people may say that it's important in a particular context, but when it comes to demanding it from our representatives, that tells a different story.

  • @garythecyclingnerd6219

    @garythecyclingnerd6219

    6 күн бұрын

    @@ullrichWe can cut a ton of corporate welfare subsidies and DoD contracts which would 10x NASA’s budget and likely lead to a net ROI in 15 years. It’s really not hard.

  • @georgespalding7640
    @georgespalding7640Ай бұрын

    I as an American I appreciate the fact that we as a country have remained safe for all these years and mostly because of our strong military. But I don't believe we need to continue to spend almost a trillion dollars a year to support it. I would rather see more spent on infrastructure improvement, healthcare, cleaning up our country, solving the homeless problem and also spend much more for space exploration to continue our search for the truth about our world and our place in the Universe. Cut the military budget in half and spend the rest on improvinjg the Human Condition in this country and also satisfy our curiosity with the Universe.

  • @niksmoret2744

    @niksmoret2744

    Ай бұрын

    Aha so you think Mexico or Canada will attack you perhaps.Yea yea next year vote 2trill's🤣

  • @steelerfaninperu

    @steelerfaninperu

    Ай бұрын

    Preach. A big part of why the economy is stagnating is because your average dude just can't innovate anymore. They're too broke to break out. If we spent more on internal needs we'd put people in a better position to create the next new big thing and add more value to the country as a whole. You'd have more people able to work with healthcare too. Student debt is crippling a generation. Some of this stuff doesn't even require major spending, just sensible legislation. That's what's so frustrating to me. We more than have the resources, we just don't use them properly.

  • @sookendestroy1

    @sookendestroy1

    Ай бұрын

    Funny enough about half of the US black budget goes to space operations, spy satellites, space infrastructure for the military and joint ventures with NASA. Its so critical that they wont even give out the costs involved to prevent guesses on what they do with it.

  • @Simp_Zone

    @Simp_Zone

    Ай бұрын

    @@steelerfaninperu The US economy is stronger than it has ever been ever. Not sure what news channels you are watching but maybe switch up and get your facts straight.

  • @steelerfaninperu

    @steelerfaninperu

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Simp_Zone How do you measure the economy? Total numbers don't translate to better situations for everyone, so I don't just look at GDP or GDP/Capita PPP. US HDI has declined the last couple of years. Consumer debt defaults are rising. Inflation hasn't declined as fast as we'd like and it's choking off economic growth due to federal debt payments.

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633Ай бұрын

    I rememer getting a bunch of KN 22 krytrons at the liquidation of a laser maker and selling one on ebay. The buyer wanted a pair if possible and the addres was for NASA, particularly the JPL. I asked what they used them for and it was for a double pulse holography laser vibrometer for examining the vibrations of rocket engines and such under test. The last laser was out of commission for 16 months with out funding to buy a new laser, and the KN22's were not even being made anymore. The new cost of one of these lasers was over 20 million dollars. Lets just say they were very happy that i had 16 more of these little tubes and got them at a good price. Thus fixed the other two double pulse lasers as well with lots of spare tubes left over. ❤

  • @TheSteveSteele
    @TheSteveSteele18 күн бұрын

    imo, a huge problem is that the US has pushed almost all manufacturing to Asia. The engineers and manufacturers that existed in abundance after WWII. It’s happened in the auto industry, the tech industry, and nearly everything else and US companies are all to glad to continue to let this happen. Some companies have said that they have tried manufacturing in the US, but the skill set just wasn’t good enough. Maybe we need another Sputnik effect. But I think it’s too late for that. Nobody wants to do that kind of work in this country anymore. And the cultural climate in the US has degraded so much, more kids would rather be social media influencers than engineers or plant workers. Influencers create nothing of value. So, to me that’s the biggest problem this country faces. Until our leaders and county expect great things out of younger generations, we won’t achieve anything great.

  • @justsayjay
    @justsayjayАй бұрын

    I remember first subscribing to this channel. I thought the content was awesome but the name was corny "cool worlds" sounds so juvenile. But then i saw him explain that the "cool" part meant cold, i.e temperature. So it meant worlds cold enough to support life as most exo planets we have found are huge hot gas giants. Now i think both content and name is awesome.

  • @bearcubdaycare

    @bearcubdaycare

    Ай бұрын

    I can't help suspect that he meant cool both ways...

  • @tygical

    @tygical

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@bearcubdaycarewell yeah, it would be very cool to find a cool world

  • @brianhourigan
    @brianhouriganАй бұрын

    Im beginning to get the dreaded realisation that space exploration will have to become a private industry, which causes me concern that a lot of charlatans will flood the industry if it becomes somehow potentially profitable

  • @sookendestroy1

    @sookendestroy1

    Ай бұрын

    They already have with it being unprofitable, when elon and bezos started doing it a couple hundred smaller companies did too, most of which never went anywhere or launched and blew up one rocket before going bankrupt

  • @donaldcarpenter5328

    @donaldcarpenter5328

    25 күн бұрын

    The Federal government's ROLE was ALWAYS to "prime the pump" and set the conditions for PRIVATE SPACE exploration would step forward and Fed. spending be REPLACED by private equity. Didn't watch Alien and its sequels? How about the PLETHORA of other SCI-FI movies and shows???

  • @user-ow2yr4nu4z
    @user-ow2yr4nu4z29 күн бұрын

    Grew up in Florida and while all the other kids got to go to Disneyland we went to Kenedy Space Center/NASA. It and the surrounding communities are amazing places, literally some of the most brilliant minds in various fields live in the surrounding area or trying to get on at NASA even if it's just be a janitor. My father worked on animaronics/robotics and tried to get on himself during the 80s. He had even worked for companies that contracted Disney projects and we still never went there, only to NASA and SeaWorld. Cape was more or less in my backyard and I actually watched the Challanger explode with my naked eye. It's still very burnt into my mind even tho im 43 now. It was a abnormally cold morning in Florida,

  • @xBINARYGODx
    @xBINARYGODx29 күн бұрын

    but OF COURSE the def budget is permitted to go as high as it pleases

  • @Mia-bz
    @Mia-bzАй бұрын

    Nasa should just ficus on scientific endeavor and leave transport for commercial entities

  • @Kainlarsen

    @Kainlarsen

    Ай бұрын

    That would be a very bad idea in the long run. America already has a huge problem with corporate corruption.

  • @cp37373

    @cp37373

    Ай бұрын

    Calm down joyce

  • @NeuroD369

    @NeuroD369

    Ай бұрын

    NASA*…

  • @hawkdsl

    @hawkdsl

    Ай бұрын

    Commercial entities have built every single NASA rocket/transport vehicle sense NASA's beginning. NASA in house manufacturing has largely been with the science probes/landers/telescopes. What has changes is now NASA will just rent a seat, or rent a payload bay in the future for it's space access. That has already started, and once SLS ends it's service life, will be the end of NASA run space access systems.

  • @mennovanlavieren3885

    @mennovanlavieren3885

    Ай бұрын

    But who is then going to fund the cronies at ULA?

  • @ChocolatineGaming
    @ChocolatineGamingАй бұрын

    Sometimes I think about how much money is spent for military and how amazing it would be to take even a fraction of that money and put it towards NASA budget. Exploring the universe is important to answer the fundamental questions humanity have been asking for ages. Amazing video Prof. Kipping, as always! Much love.

  • @HitsInSandbox
    @HitsInSandbox24 күн бұрын

    Maybe that is why AdaptionSystems has started considering the development of its prototypes in other countries for a *** Rocket & Thruster Free High Output in orbit Electric Propulsion system ***

  • @tcarr349
    @tcarr349Ай бұрын

    Funding for NASA and scientific research can stir up some debate, but let's not forget the massive payoffs we've seen from these investments. So, suck it up and let's get the work done!

  • @willmartin1549
    @willmartin1549Ай бұрын

    I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS LOVE THE VIDEOS

  • @minorityofthought1306
    @minorityofthought1306Ай бұрын

    Funding isn't the only problem. Being highly risk averse combined with that is holding NASA back.

  • @sookendestroy1

    @sookendestroy1

    Ай бұрын

    NASA has to be risk adverse, elon can blow up a hundred rockets and people laugh about it, NASA has one problem and its talked about for the next decade about how NASA is conspiring to steal your tax dollars for useless junk.

  • @TheAubreyLynch
    @TheAubreyLynchАй бұрын

    I agree with you. The lack of curiosity in our world, space and the ocean is absolutely shocking. 😢

  • @mynamejeff4883
    @mynamejeff4883Ай бұрын

    Many of the most significant advances that we have in our world and that make life better either came from advances made during our efforts to move forward in the space race or are derived from technologies that came about from those projects. Children get actually get excited about science and math and dream big dreams when the news is full of big firsts accomplished as we reach out further into the stars. Of course weapons tech gets advanced in massive ways as well if that is something that you care about, but that is a byproduct of the fact that the military and government always latch onto anything that can make them more powerful. The kind of pure science that the people with their minds in the heavens is always moving in a positive direction though. What gets done with that movement is at the whim of others but the entire world will be severely lacking if an appreciation for just how much NASA and the scientific fields focused on reaching for and into the unknown is lost or even diminished too much. It is constantly understated but can not be overstated how much these sciences of research and exploration mean to even those that never give them a second though, without even realizing what they do for them.

  • @mattwuk
    @mattwukАй бұрын

    David, I know you are busy but what are the chances of starting a completely different channel just reading old books? I saved this video for bedtime because you your voice is perfect for falling asleep to. Anyone else feel this?

  • @mattwuk

    @mattwuk

    Ай бұрын

    Even when you are animated and excited, your voice is velvet.

  • @neelroy2918

    @neelroy2918

    Ай бұрын

    Yep. I concur.

  • @pjhaines6620

    @pjhaines6620

    Ай бұрын

    Lol. I usually save cool worlds videos for just before bed as well. It's not boring by any means, quite the contrary, but I also find his voice and the background noise he always seems to play very soothing.

  • @TheSlashd0t
    @TheSlashd0t29 күн бұрын

    Sadly, it would seem that it is more profitable to make rockets that destroy and set mankind back decades (if not more) rather than ones that progress mankind's evolution into space...

  • @joshvanguard852
    @joshvanguard85227 күн бұрын

    I love everything about science and space. Convince the rest of the world to stop killing each other so we can spend less on defense . If poop hits the fan I'd rather a superior jet to a sweet space observatory. I honestly wish war wasn't such a big deal in this modern society.

  • @ODSD_EXCITEMENT
    @ODSD_EXCITEMENTАй бұрын

    You present a troubling and bleak outlook here; there's something very out of balance. The powers at be don't seem to address this problem so, again it's up to the combined voices of citizens.

  • @kevinsayes
    @kevinsayesАй бұрын

    We already put this much into sample return, let’s freaking get it done. I hate where our country is at, it’s so frustrating.

  • @codys447

    @codys447

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly, I don't care about the Mars sample return. It would lead up to a manned Mars mission, but this seems too 20th-century sci-fi and irrelevant to the important science. We need to give up on the idea that humans are going to colonize distant toxic and radioactive wastelands, and instead focus on science that improves our understanding of Earth's place in the universe or supports the environment here. The set of Venus missions coming up (Venus Life Finder, DAVINCI, VERITAS, EnVision) are good examples of probes more fitting of 21st-century realism.

  • @TheHonestPeanut

    @TheHonestPeanut

    29 күн бұрын

    Undrinkable water, rolling blackouts, 100 year old energy tech, laws built on human rights violations. Yeah it's a failure.

  • @Andisend
    @AndisendАй бұрын

    When someone else finds that next ‘miraculous’, energy changing or ability to take leaps, we will already be 50 years behind, and beholden to them..science for humanitarian or the benefit of all is so often wrapped in greed .. …

  • @BryceWalker30
    @BryceWalker3029 күн бұрын

    So many more scientists with platforms should absolutely be making this EXACT argument. THANK YOU

  • @HamabaJuJu
    @HamabaJuJuАй бұрын

    Didn't you (in your previous video regarding James Webb's future replacement) criticize spending billions on next generation space telescopes ?

  • @hegemonersmith1048
    @hegemonersmith1048Ай бұрын

    There’s some bad things about America (constant baseless wars, global domination, etc) but as an Australian, I truly admire NASA’s huge scientific achievements. As well as those of other space agencies such as the ESA and the China National Space Administration. It is a great pity that NASA is forbidden by law from undertaking research with the CNSA.

  • @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943

    @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943

    10 күн бұрын

    International efforts for space would actually be good. Also those are not bad, those are horrible.

  • @IdeationGeek
    @IdeationGeek29 күн бұрын

    Budgets are not limited by amount of money we have. They're limited by the amount of talents (people) available to hire...

  • @BruceCullen
    @BruceCullen28 күн бұрын

    Appreciate your thoughts on this all, I am sharing with good people the very very best I can.

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessageАй бұрын

    We just can't have nice things anymore.

  • @derekwood8184
    @derekwood8184Ай бұрын

    All major projects always cost vastly more than originally bid. The reasons are twofold: 1: you make mistakes the first time you do anything challenging, including the specification, (it's not what you don't know that gets you, its what you know for sure that just ain't so). 2: if you bid a realistic price for a project like this then no one would ever sign off on it, so there's active pressure to avoid costs, yet there's also pressure the sell a far reaching vision for something radically new (see item 1). Regarding launch costs.. Starship could save you a lot of money because you don't have to design for lightness. Every single element of any future mission will get much much easier if you can use heavy off the shelf parts. It isn't just about launch costs, it's also about the maximum launch mass.. which will increase radically.

  • @totalermist

    @totalermist

    Ай бұрын

    The focus on launch costs is misguided. Just for some perspective: JWST program cost was just under $10B, with the launch accounting for about $200M or about 2% of the cost. Since the size of the sun shield is too big even for Starship and Starship wouldn't be able to put it in its target orbit anyway, there's little cost savings there. Nancy Grace Roman formally known as WFIRST was provided to NASA *for free* (i.e. mirror, spacecraft bus and systems) from NRO, yet its budget ballooned to $3.2 billion...

  • @derekwood8184

    @derekwood8184

    29 күн бұрын

    @@totalermist but the point is to get JWST into the L2 position it could not be above a certain mass.. thus the entire thing had to be build down to a mass.. that makes it insanely expensive.. if it could have been 3 or 4 times the mass, with huge shock absorbers for launch the R&D required for the extremely challenging sunshield would have been cut by an order of magnitude as it would have been reduced to some aluminium pannels on hinges. 10x the mass, but trivial to deploy. mass is what makes everything so expensive.

  • @totalermist

    @totalermist

    29 күн бұрын

    @@derekwood8184 Is that just guesswork on your part, or do you have actual sources to support your claim? For reference, even if NASA gets a Hubble-class space telescope (complete with satellite bus, mirror, thermal and power systems) *for free* (i.e. WFIRST aka Nancy Grace Roman Telescope), they still manage to burn $3.2Bn on it. So I'm really curious where you get your estimates from. Also, just FYI, Starship is incapable of getting anything beyond LEO without 12 to 15 tanker flights.

  • @derekwood8184

    @derekwood8184

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@totalermist For your information, I've worked in Engineering research and development for 30 years (at a senior level, can't say more). The cost of any program is proportional to how hard the specification is, if you relax just one part of the requirement.. be that weight, size, performance or some degree of functionality then the cost of the entire program falls because each element becomes a lot more possible. Starship allows two major contraints (size and weight) to be substantially relaxed. This will allow performance from currently available parts for multiple areas of satellite and probe development. Thus dropping the cost to the off the shelf purchase price which will always be an order of magnitude less than developing it yourself, probably much more. Re starship refuelling.. I note you claim 12-15 flights to refuel with no corroborating evidence. Lets break down your claim. Starship takes 1200tons of propellant. Payload is described as 100~150 tons to LEO. A completely dry ship thus takes a maximum of 12 flights to refuel (so we can completely discount your 15 claim). Further the payload is described at 100~150tons once operational, thus if 150tons becomes possible that would make 8 flights needed to fully fuel a dry ship in orbit. Finally, no ship would ever be in orbit completely dry, Starship needs fuel for the landing burn, and enough to ensure consistant supply to the engines during the burn, thus no ship would ever be in orbit completely dry, it is forseeable that only 7x150ton payloads would be enough to refuel. 7 would thus be a long term goal, with 12 being a worst case, early development figure.

  • @totalermist

    @totalermist

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@derekwood8184 Thank you for your detailed response. I'm a bit disappointed you didn't address the WFIRST/NGR situation where none of your arguments apply... As for JWST, while mass and volume constraints did drive the bus and sunshield costs (see NASA nrt doc 20180003980), it still only accounts for *at most* 25% of the programme cost; so nowhere near the order of magnitude of potential savings you claimed, even if we set that cost at zero. These are NASA figures, btw. so take them up with them, not me ;) The main issues were instruments, cryo systems, material choices (not related to mass constraints), too many first-of-kind components and communication/management issues. My Starship launch number figures are based on two facts: 1) I use numbers available today (i.e. 100t payload, yet to be demonstrated, though), not aspirational goals for as of yet imaginary future version and 2) boil off. You cannot claim to be an aerospace engineer and then use figures that assume basically zero time in orbit and/or zero boil off of cryogenic propellant. I tried to account for that as refuelling (even just 10 flights) in under a week is simply not realistic, if only because of external factors like weather or NOTAM violations. Cheers,

  • @MonCappy
    @MonCappyАй бұрын

    Personally, I think NASA's budget is far too stingy as is. Ideally the annual budget for the agency would be a minimum of $100 billion annually.

  • @jcf182
    @jcf18226 күн бұрын

    Imagine a world where instead of every country putting 2% of their annual budget in military it would be invested in a NASA like entity runned worldwide. Trillions of $ per year for research and human advancement.... crazy I know.

  • @capnbeenieweenie5603
    @capnbeenieweenie5603Ай бұрын

    God I hate the amount of money that goes to the military it’s sad.

  • @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968

    @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968

    Ай бұрын

    It is in our nature until we evolve into something better.

  • @coldestbrick1264

    @coldestbrick1264

    29 күн бұрын

    It would be nice if it were all going to our military. Our poor leadership loves to take care of every other country in the world. FJB

  • @HidroPig
    @HidroPigАй бұрын

    The problem is Never the money, as much as media, politicians and mainstream economists tell us. Money can be created at will, the US budget does not depend on taxpayer money! The budget comes first, the taxes come.later to remove money from the economy. What is really in question is something mentioned in the video: the real physical resources required to build these instruments and if they're being used instead of something else. This is the important question!

  • @greenthumbbe
    @greenthumbbeАй бұрын

    imagine, 1 year .all the worlds defenses budget put in to exploring the universe ...

  • @monnoo8221
    @monnoo8221Ай бұрын

    just a shift in culture. Who would need exploring minds in a world of robots, either controlled by bureaucrazy or by single companies ?

  • @feroxcious
    @feroxciousАй бұрын

    you are way too optimistic about spacex, their quality and their timelines

  • @CoolWorldsLab

    @CoolWorldsLab

    Ай бұрын

    I didn’t really express an opinion either way, if they deliver, cost savings should follow, but I by no means would bet on that

  • @gasdive

    @gasdive

    Ай бұрын

    I'm not sure how you can be "too optimistic" about the company that each year launches 4 times more mass to orbit than the rest of the world combined. It's not a tiny startup that's over promising and under delivering.

  • @LGHTSPD675

    @LGHTSPD675

    Ай бұрын

    Give me a break. SpaceX is an absolute disruptor in the launch business. They have significantly lowered the cost and established an incredibly high reliability. It wasn't even his main point. Whoosh!

  • @feroxcious

    @feroxcious

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@gasdive How is the artemis timeline going?

  • @feroxcious

    @feroxcious

    Ай бұрын

    @@LGHTSPD675 overpromising and underdelivering is musks and spaceX's MO. Not saying they didn't do anything for LEO launches. But it's definitely not going well with the larger rockets for artemis and other more serious missions. Musk is trying to put a welded grain silo into orbit and it's not working.. well it is working in the sense that they grabbed NASA's cash and blew it on expensive displays of pyrotechnics.

  • @scottjuhnke6825
    @scottjuhnke6825Ай бұрын

    Here's the problem: NASA doesn't have anyone paying bribes to Representatives, and Senators.

  • @LackofFaithify

    @LackofFaithify

    26 күн бұрын

    The most depressing part is how small most of the bribes are. MoC are really cheap...umm....dates....

  • @AverageWhiteGuy101
    @AverageWhiteGuy10129 күн бұрын

    I think the problem is that NASA keep over promising and under delivering, not just on project costs and delivery times but on actual results of their projects also.

  • @ruperterskin2117
    @ruperterskin2117Ай бұрын

    Appreciate ya. Thanks for sharing.

  • @blankspace0000
    @blankspace0000Ай бұрын

    The willingness to spend money on excess fighter jets and the reluctance to spend comparative pennies on NASA seems like a bad omen for the coming years.

  • @leoncorns1450
    @leoncorns1450Ай бұрын

    So then, I'll now be looking to the Chinese to represent humanity in space and on the Moon and Mars.

  • @RobbieKhan
    @RobbieKhanАй бұрын

    It's one thing that we at our age have this in mind, I am assuming that going by comments in videos like this that the vast majority of us are at least in the age range 30-50. It is up to us to instil the need to explore and stay curious to the younger generation, who then do the same for their time in years to come. If that doesn't happen, then there's no public interest in doing such things and we become slaves to the state of the system. Looking at the state of social media platforms and comment sections these days on them, this does seem to be the direction things are heading, but it's still not too late to turn things around. For the USA it is paramount that voters (who ultimately hold the power to make change happen) vote in officials who actually understand the implications of reducing budgets to agencies like NASA, people who understand science as a fundamental right for the entire planet. Because at the moment large portions of USG seems to be filled with officials who don't understand any of that.

  • @slipknot-codmyt5237
    @slipknot-codmyt523728 күн бұрын

    Maybe if they hadn't lied to Congress about our little UAP problem there budget wouldn't have been cut.

  • @aceundead4750
    @aceundead4750Ай бұрын

    Whenever NASA's budget is brought up i think i wish i could choose where my tax money went when i filed my taxes. Fully confident with that type of system the U.S. govt could still fund everything it does, just with different things getting more funding than others currently are.

  • @nyanko2077
    @nyanko2077Ай бұрын

    But starship will be able to fly multiple times in a row. How about sending 2 or 3 parts separately and get them to reassemble once in space?

  • @CoolWorldsLab

    @CoolWorldsLab

    Ай бұрын

    Ye there’s some interest in doing this but I think the key is to figure out how to assemble robotically to keep costs down

  • @Jason-gq8fo

    @Jason-gq8fo

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-ey7bb5ol8cno it won’t. It will be 8 max

  • @Nulley0

    @Nulley0

    Ай бұрын

    Landing on a planet is hard already, let alone a ship-part land on another ship-part, and still stay in the path and attach. Doable but tremendously harder.

  • @jacobnowatzke4371
    @jacobnowatzke437123 күн бұрын

    Professor, am I missing the Save Chandra info somewhere? I don't see it

  • @CoolWorldsLab

    @CoolWorldsLab

    22 күн бұрын

    Link in the description, www.savechandra.org

  • @Mr.Deleterious
    @Mr.DeleteriousАй бұрын

    We need a powerful military but having said that, we need to divert about 20% ~ 25% of the entire yearly Defense Budget and reallocate those funds to NASA and other sectors. Our military would still be by far the most powerful on Earth and still be able to conduct amazing research at NASA. Some of these old men in the Federal Govt need to go. Once my generation takes control there will be monumental changes to how the GDP gets spent down.

  • @mk1st
    @mk1st28 күн бұрын

    There’s currently a ten year project to update the nation’s nuclear weapons, currently tagged at $1.5Tn. Naturally this will not be the final cost. What is the “value” of this?

  • @gravityalchemist6599
    @gravityalchemist6599Ай бұрын

    I really enjoy Cool Worlds... Thank you.

  • @colinsmith1495
    @colinsmith1495Ай бұрын

    Look at NASA's history. From its founding, it has driven technological changes that have revolutionized the way the entire modern world works. Multiple times. On a shoestring budget. Realize that NASA was THE driver for miniaturization of electronics technologies for the first several decades of the efforts. NASA has been a big driver for more energy efficient computation at the same time. NASA has driven more nutritious pre-prepared food, cheaper and more reliable access to space, advances in camera technology and information processing. NASA has enabled us to see not just the stars, but our own world in ways we had never dreamed of before. The hardest part of funding NASA is that you can't predict WHAT the next advancement will be. We didn't go to the Moon to get PCs. But that's what we got from the drive to go to the Moon. We didn't build the Space Station to get infra-red thermometers, but that's what we got. We got better prostheses, CAT scans and radiography, memory foam, scratch resistant glass, and of course GPS, all from the Space Race. Now imagine what NASA could do with 10X the budget.

  • @runalongnowhoney
    @runalongnowhoneyАй бұрын

    I'd like to have a final say on how half of the money I pay in taxes gets spent. Think of it like a tax-payer veto power. The first half, my elected lawmakers can decide what should be done with that portion. Fair enough. The second half, I get to specify what they can do with it....

  • @xjohnny1000

    @xjohnny1000

    Ай бұрын

    In the age of always-on mobile devices, there's no reason why every citizen can't vote on everything right from their pocket.

  • @Mr_ADK
    @Mr_ADKАй бұрын

    Some day in the distant future, people living on exoplanets will be watching a video titled "We could've never been here"

  • @erics.2362
    @erics.2362Ай бұрын

    Well ok, but don't let that distract you from the fact that every 60 seconds a minute passes in africa

  • @kaiser-ish2365

    @kaiser-ish2365

    Ай бұрын

    Technically according to mean solar time which is what we use generally to keep time, 1 minute can vary depending on your latitude.

  • @forcivilizaton5021
    @forcivilizaton5021Ай бұрын

    If we have any chance left at getting back to the moon, we need to put our tax dollars towards NASA and not Israel.

  • @6R3YP1L6R1M

    @6R3YP1L6R1M

    Ай бұрын

    Oi Vey, that's Antisemitic. Shut it DOWN!!

  • @hmu05366

    @hmu05366

    Ай бұрын

    But what about the Israelis ?

  • @macethorns1168

    @macethorns1168

    Ай бұрын

    Israel is getting a **fraction** of what Ukraine is getting. But you're not wrong.

  • @macethorns1168

    @macethorns1168

    Ай бұрын

    @@hmu05366 America First.

  • @6R3YP1L6R1M

    @6R3YP1L6R1M

    Ай бұрын

    @@macethorns1168 Israel has been getting millions, if not Billions of Tax Payer Dollars from the U.S yearly since at least the end of WWII.

  • @podunkest
    @podunkest12 күн бұрын

    Meanwhile, we've given Ukraine about 8-10 years of NASA's budget in materiel and money. Giving NASA 1% of the US military budget would be about a 30% increase in NASA's budget.

  • @1112viggo
    @1112viggoАй бұрын

    I don't know, i mean if we can't clean up the street right outside our door, what right do we have to dream of the stars?

  • @MillennialInMedicine
    @MillennialInMedicineАй бұрын

    69% of Americans you say? 😎

  • @Nulley0

    @Nulley0

    Ай бұрын

    69.420%

  • @ToomasVane

    @ToomasVane

    Ай бұрын

    Nice.

  • @Iona_Roe_Deer

    @Iona_Roe_Deer

    Ай бұрын

    It is very nice indeed. 😏

  • @brendancurran8949

    @brendancurran8949

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @kkupsky6321

    @kkupsky6321

    Ай бұрын

    @@Nulley0 I’m late u thought the same thing

  • @chimpychimp4921
    @chimpychimp4921Ай бұрын

    The real issue for our budget is entitlement programs. Everything else, including DoD, is a rounding error in comparison.

  • @snizami

    @snizami

    Ай бұрын

    Important services meant to take care of people aren't issues or problems. It's true that the defense budget would pale in comparison to, say, universal healthcare, but that doesn't excuse how overinflated, mis prioritized, and enormously wasteful the latter is regardless. The American economy has huge potential for further taxation in order to pay for things people and society could benefit from. Heck, the US could borrow trillions upon what it already has to start paying for these programs but won't because it inevitably signals taxation upon those (the wealthy) who can afford to but don't want to. These are policy choices that are made (i.e. to fund XYZ or not to) not confounding or intractable issues. How to do them is known and 100% possible, we just choose not to do them.

  • @elizabethbrauer1118

    @elizabethbrauer1118

    Ай бұрын

    Workers _and_ Employers support SS, so that workers can receive those monies when disabled or retired. However, you can donate your SS to NASA.

  • @hawkdsl

    @hawkdsl

    Ай бұрын

    DOD is almost 20% of the total budget. That's one hell of a rounding error.

  • @viktorfalk1988

    @viktorfalk1988

    Ай бұрын

    Wildly inaccurate

  • @johnbooth6519
    @johnbooth651917 күн бұрын

    Imagine a world where money spent on stars was spent on people struggling to eat....

  • @markclancy5714
    @markclancy571427 күн бұрын

    space is a depressing subject lately for many because they are overwhelmed with how vulnerable small and helpless we are against that grand fabric of barriers that wont allow our fantasies to become reality, more of a percentage think of our lack of modern day moon endeavors as conspiratory rather than simply a budget and cultural thing that was abandoned when it peaked ( sorta like ones gym plan :D ). Then expanding space, drifting moving faster and faster away while we strive to develop anything that prospects or comes near to reaching the speed we can keep up with it. sometimes you've worked out what's not possible even in the infinite universe so to speak, what we look at in the cosmos may make us feel in the present but funny enough those galaxies and distant stars are the past, the vastness is humbling or terrifying and its unexplained mysteries like dark matter make great sci fi content ideas, unfortunately the more we learn about space the more we learn of how alone we seem to be considering how diverse our planet is with uncountable species one wouldn't have a lifetime to memorize and study alone. The money to maybe make it possible is being used in war/defense budgets tell me that's not depressing?

  • @Andre_XX
    @Andre_XXАй бұрын

    How much do tax exemptions for religious organisations cost each year?

  • @Bow-to-the-absurd
    @Bow-to-the-absurdАй бұрын

    Nasa needs to change even more than it has done so over the last few years or so. Get out of making ridiculously overpriced launch vehicles, for starters.

  • @FA-ft9sq

    @FA-ft9sq

    Ай бұрын

    In a geopolitical and realpolitik context, having your own in house space vehicle is a smart play, even essential. Question is, are you gonna do it from a civilian context or a military one?

  • @shawno8253

    @shawno8253

    Ай бұрын

    That isn't NASAs fault. The original Artemis program was planned by NASA but Congress came up with a different plan that has made the program way more expensive than the original.

  • @sachathehuman4234

    @sachathehuman4234

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@shawno8253thank you!! I hear NASA get so much shit for something they just dont have control over, when the scientists and engineers are doing their best to make the most of it, and congress keeps mucking it up

  • @bigjermboktown6976
    @bigjermboktown6976Ай бұрын

    Well said my friend, well said. ❤️

  • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa21 күн бұрын

    Honestly, ESA and CNSA really need to step up. Humanity cannot be this reliant on NASA to represent all of us.

  • @radekcuhel670

    @radekcuhel670

    18 күн бұрын

    CNSA did step up. They are just focusing on other aspects of exploration. Just look at their Chang'e program. Since 2013 they landed four times on various places and conducted experiments.

  • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    18 күн бұрын

    @@radekcuhel670 A historically underfunded NASA still has a bigger budget than ESA and CNSA combined. That needs to change.

  • @loadmastergod1961
    @loadmastergod1961Ай бұрын

    Nasa should just ficus on scientific endeavor and leave transport for commercial entities.

  • @Janoip

    @Janoip

    Ай бұрын

    Not really a good idea to rely on private companies, like we seen in part with Starlink+ Especially not on Musk, in 10+ years if their many companies and enough competition maybe. Its just a bad idea as it was with privatising Railway, Hospitals, Prison

  • @loadmastergod1961

    @loadmastergod1961

    Ай бұрын

    @Janoip as if relying on Boeing is any better? What is nasa realistically gonna pay per launch. 6 billion? Far better to put those funds into cheaper and far more reliable launch services

  • @633aaron
    @633aaronАй бұрын

    Nobody is stopping any of you from just writing a check to NASA.

  • @balwinderdosanjh1360

    @balwinderdosanjh1360

    Ай бұрын

    Hmmmmm ! U r , in a roundabout way , by paying taxes 😢

  • @timo4258

    @timo4258

    28 күн бұрын

    Yeah, pay your taxes.

  • @MasterHatred
    @MasterHatredАй бұрын

    So in order to reduce my personal data use in web I need to share my personal data yet again with some web site? This doesn`t sound feasible…

  • @merky6004
    @merky600424 күн бұрын

    Cost over runs that had to be paid by sacrificing other projects and telescopes. That earned JWST the name, “The space telescope that ate Astronomy.”

  • @septopus3516
    @septopus3516Ай бұрын

    Strange... We went to the moon 6 times with seemingly unimpeded ease and even sent 3 cars up there on some miniscule budgets... Odd...

  • @cwx8

    @cwx8

    Ай бұрын

    Not that odd. Society is in collapse. Everything is built worse than before. Nothing is as durable as it was. Nobody can repair anything anymore. Everything costs too much. Engineering firms are growing increasingly incompetent. We peaked in the early 2000s.

  • @mtrps_

    @mtrps_

    Ай бұрын

    "seemingyl unimpeded ease" & "some miniscule budget" just shows how little context you actually know about the apollo program.

  • @nathanielletourneau9952

    @nathanielletourneau9952

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@mtrps_no kidding, the Apollo program was incredibly expensive, as was the international space station program. Not to say we shouldn't increase spending in science funding, we should, but we shouldn't be remembering history wrong.

  • @HexaSquirrel

    @HexaSquirrel

    Ай бұрын

    The Apollo program budgets were hardly miniscule. On average, they were 2%+ of GDP with a peak in 1966 of 4.41%. Why are you conspiracy theorists so stupid?

  • @Janoip

    @Janoip

    Ай бұрын

    @@cwx8 lol

  • @timedeathe
    @timedeatheАй бұрын

    Its probably time to switch to being publicly funded

  • @timedeathe

    @timedeathe

    Ай бұрын

    Basically people could donate to it.

  • @CoolWorldsLab

    @CoolWorldsLab

    Ай бұрын

    NASA is publicly funded!

  • @timedeathe

    @timedeathe

    Ай бұрын

    I was more talking about making it so people could donate on there website to help exploration

  • @timedeathe

    @timedeathe

    Ай бұрын

    12:34 also If it's on the same level of underestimating it could cost 70 billion dollars

  • @timedeathe

    @timedeathe

    Ай бұрын

    13:51 i still think habitable red dwarf worlds out number habitable sun like stars even with the issues as there are a good amount that are more quiet

  • @Uwwerasch
    @Uwwerasch19 күн бұрын

    19:44 This sums it up beautifully.

  • @AdamCaudill-cs4pz
    @AdamCaudill-cs4pzАй бұрын

    Lately I’ve found myself thinking more and more that a non-profit dedicated to building and launching cost efficient & highly focused hardware may be what’s needed to ensure progress is made, even when governments fail to fund such obviously important science. While I’d love to see NASA’s budget massively expanded, maybe looking to the people to directly fund projects that are more focused, use more COTS hardware, are built and launched quickly instead of trying to revolutionize the field with each new effort, and emphasize doing one thing well instead of taking on the risk of trying to do so many different and new things all at once - this could provide a more sustainable approach. With the payload sizes supported with current launch systems, it allows greater simplification, avoiding risks that so complicated JWST, and if there’s a real effort to use COTS components as much as possible, build costs should be further reduced significantly. High performance, low complexity, allowing more to be built, and new techniques to be developed with lower costs/risks. Getting people to hand over money is never easy, but maybe there are enough that care about discovery to give us another way forward.

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