The Wow! Signal After 45 Years
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The Wow! Signal was a radio signal detected in 1977 that remains the most compelling candidate for an alien radio transmission ever received. 45 years later, and after dozens of failed hours spent trying to catch it again, can we conclude the Wow signal was bogus? Join us today as we discuss a new research paper from the Cool Worlds Lab that explores this question and everything Wow.
Written & presented by Prof David Kipping
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::References::
► Kipping, D. & Gray, R. (2022), "Could the “Wow” signal have originated from a stochastic repeating beacon?", MNRAS, accepted for publication: arxiv.org/abs/2206.08374
► "The Elusive Wow" book by Robert Gray: www.amazon.com/Elusive-Wow-Se...
► Gray R. H., 1994, Icar, 112, 485. doi:10.1006/icar.1994.1199
► Gray R. H., Marvel K. B., 2001, ApJ, 546, 1171 doi:10.1086/318272
► Gray R. H., Ellingsen S., 2002, ApJ, 578, 967. doi:10.1086/342646
► Harp G. R., Gray R. H., Richards J., Shostak G. S., Tarter J. C.,
2020, AJ, 160, 162. doi:10.3847/1538-3881/aba58f
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::Film/TV clips used::
► Wow Documentary (2017) Peacock
► Agora (2009) Focus Features International
► Contact (1997) Warner Bros.
► Independence Day (1996) 20th Century Fox
::Chapters::
00:00 Introduction
02:51 Four Facts
07:15 False Positives?
08:15 Four Unknowns
12:06 Black Swans
13:54 Observatory Emulation
16:01 Hypothetical Signals
18:51 Big Ear Results
19:52 Multi-Observatory Results
22:43 Wow's Properties
24:49 Robert Gray
26:12 Outro and credits
#WowSignal #AreWeAlone #CoolWorlds
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I love how we say it can only be an alien signal if it repeats but our own signal we sent out was done once. That's all. So anyone who received our artificially generated signal and sat there waiting for it to repeat is going to be as disappointed as we are with the WOW signal. Perhaps once is all any civilization sends out a message.
@xBINARYGODx
Жыл бұрын
if the wow signal is alien in nature, of some kind, it would really have to be pointed right at us - the thing we sent out was not pointed at any specific planet or even star system. (edit, its is highly unlikely anything will ever properly get what we sent out, it was not powerful enough and it will too spread out before it gets to where it was pointed)
@LDrosophila
Жыл бұрын
Talk about existential seems here on earth that holds true once may be all there is time for civilizations to announce they are/were here
@WCM1945
Жыл бұрын
@@LDrosophila And that's probably all it could amount to in the foreseeable future. The time delays are generations long at the very shortest distances.
@solsystem1342
Жыл бұрын
We're looking for a dedicated first contact transition. Like a laser array that flashes the first 1000 prime numbers in binary (or probably something better thought out). Sending one pulse could just as easily be a interference or equipment error and therefore is an unlikely strategy for any intelligent life to employ. Our METI efforts thus far have largely been stunts. No one actually expects someone to detect our signals that would have missed the obvious biosignatures in our planet's atmosphere. With JWST we would be able to see ourselves from further away then our signal has "reached" (even though it's fainter then you could reasonably expect anyone to pick up on).
@TheMsLourdes
Жыл бұрын
@@xBINARYGODx true but if a message is beamed point to point to candidate stars in a pattern, it would take far less power and it could be done. Hell if we were able to hear the wow signal just two more times, we could even figure out how many planets were being targeted by the sender, because if the signal durtion was 72 seconds and reorient transmit, we could get a ballpark estimate of how many planets that signal is trying to reach out to, and that would be amazing. All said and done, it's a trippy subject and these things could be done. However as another commenter pointed out, this all depends on a sender that is rotating the message locations and continuously sending. We as humans have only ever point broadcast once. and its entirely possible the sender did the same. What this really means is, for any realistic chance of picking up the signal again, we'd have to poitn to at least one civilization that was doing it consistently... ie us. So I think the rational argument is that we file away the wow until we start broadcasting point to point to at least a collection of systems.. because we'll be able to realistic say.. well, we did it... so...
77 was an awesome year. We had the Voyager launches, Starwars, and the WOW signal!
@emzywillrich7243
Жыл бұрын
I sung a solo in 1977 of the Bee Gees song, How Deep Is Your Love! 1977 was a good year!!
@fractiousfauxpas1368
Жыл бұрын
@@emzywillrich7243 I love this comment :')
@bestonyoutube
Жыл бұрын
There is the answer. Too much of a coincidence. Obviously it was a joke by someone because of the Star Wars movie, the signal was human made.
@ridetillidie8090
Жыл бұрын
So, 2 out of three great events? #SWsucks
@willo1358
Жыл бұрын
also the year of the biggest earthquake ever in my country (one of the worst earthquake disasters of the 1970's around the world)
We can't say the WOW signal didn't repeat. It could've repeated ten times. The array that captured it was flat and scanned the sky using the rotation of the earth. So they had to wait a full 24 hours just to get back to that general region of space. We'll never know. It very well could've kept going or been going for some time before it was detected.
@timoteubert7068
8 ай бұрын
Weren't there other observatories which didn't pick it up?
@jademoon7938
8 ай бұрын
@@timoteubert7068 As far as I know, no other telescopes were on that patch of space but the Big Ear, though I believe they asked other telescopes to focus on it once the Big Ear wasn't facing that direction anymore, and they didn't capture anything. They have looked in that direction since and haven't captured it again. So, my point was, we don't know how long that signal could've been repeating before it was detected. We can't say it didn't repeat or that it wasn't longer. Earth's telescopes only caught the 70 seconds or whatever it was.
@stargazer7644
3 ай бұрын
We know the signal stopped because the second receiver didn't hear it when it swept the same location in space 3 minutes later - the signal was gone and was never heard again despite lots of looking.
@arostwocents
3 ай бұрын
Great point elf girl. I have seen a few black eyed people on here and now an elf. Lol KZread is crazy, all kinds of supernatural people post here 😮
@arostwocents
3 ай бұрын
@@stargazer7644It could have repeated before it was originally detected - it may have been sent once or twice shortly before the final time when it was detected
It’s crazy to think the WOW! signal is still out there, traveling through space, now 46 light years away from us. It blows my mind to think about where it is from and how it came to us. And what are the odds that the telescope caught it when it did… wild.
@tylerk3616
3 ай бұрын
Could be a million light years until another civilization picks it up, and even then it could be many millions of years before that when it was originally sent.
@Dementjevsky
3 ай бұрын
re❤❤❤👍🤦🤣🥰😢
@Dementjevsky
3 ай бұрын
t CEC de r😂y erredescecc xceewc DD😊s😅 0:50 eedrde?
@stargazer7644
3 ай бұрын
@@tylerk3616It won't happen. Every time it doubles the distance it has gone, the signal gets 4 times weaker. Every time it goes 10 times farther, it gets 100 times weaker. Eventually the signal will become weaker than the background noise of the universe, and will be lost forever. Based on how strong it was when we heard it, it can only go about 5 times farther before it is lost in the noise. It is quite possibly already gone.
@davidschaftenaar6530
2 ай бұрын
Not if it came from very far away. 😉 Q
So, we've only listened to that part of the sky for 10% of the time needed to rule it out... I'm surprised that only 148 hours has been devoted to it, given that it could simply be a matter of hitting a perfect alignment with the source, which could depend on the rotation of both planets syncing up, if it is, indeed, coming from a planet's surface. 148 hours is obviously not enough, given that possibility.
@AT-SOI
Жыл бұрын
There is no worse deaf than someone who does not want to hear. The important thing is to spend millions dollars and decades to photograph a black hole ...
@Thros1
Жыл бұрын
@@AT-SOI pennies compared to other irrelevant spending, but we should just keep fighting each other on this rock we are stuck on right?
@AT-SOI
Жыл бұрын
@@Thros1 there is no need to make comparisons between two different realities, I am talking about money spent on scientific research, not about other issues. And that's the point. Discovering an extraterrestrial alternative could end all our conflicts. Photographing a black hole does not seem to me to be solving the world's problems. right?
@selina0674
Жыл бұрын
@@Thros1 there is no need to do whataboutism
@esecallum
Жыл бұрын
its just a random signal from local sources. radio signals peter out after 2 light years and become random noise. don't understand the obsession with aliens. if you cant stand the aliens from across the border why would it be any better from stinking bug eyed monsters? ANY ANSWERS?
The deep field pictures get me. Staring at all those galaxies we could be looking at millions of civilizations. And the fact that our observable universe is a miniscule fraction of whats supposedly out there gives me chills.
@_apsis
15 күн бұрын
millions of likely now long-dead civilizations, too
@doob195
13 күн бұрын
I would bet everything I have that there are aliens. Maybe even one thinking exactly what I'm thinking right now, up too late on their alien phone.
@thingonathinginathing
9 күн бұрын
NASA is complicit in the UAP cover-up, and they've stagnated the field of Astrobiology.❤
@_apsis
9 күн бұрын
@@thingonathinginathing why would NASA attempt to cover that up though?
@thingonathinginathing
9 күн бұрын
@_apsis I don't know, perhaps it is because of the massive implications or their own invested interests. But they are complicit in the cover-up.
Little known fact: radio astronomer Jerry R. Ehman was looking at the printout upside down when he noticed the signal data. He then wrote ¡MOM, wanting to show his findings to his mother later. The rest, as they say, is history. Joking aside, this was a fascinating topic that hopefully continues receiving attention from the scientific community.
@nickscurvy8635
2 ай бұрын
I wonder if his mother was very proud
@lnhp5592
2 ай бұрын
@@nickscurvy8635 After all this time, it turns out it was actually the work of Tommy Tallarico, the inventor of Alien Signals.
@nickscurvy8635
2 ай бұрын
@@lnhp5592 he was the first terrestrial to work on extraterrestrial signals.
@nickscurvy8635
2 ай бұрын
@@lnhp5592 tommy actually holds a guiness universe record for the most extraterrestrial signals worked on.
@thingonathinginathing
9 күн бұрын
NASA is complicit in the UAP cover-up, and they've stagnated the field of Astrobiology.❤❤❤
this video gave me goosebumps...RIP Robert Gray, excellent analysis. Let's get to 1500 hours of study on the Wow signal!!!
It seems insane to me that we don't have observatories constantly scanning the same part of the sky.
@Shinzon23
Жыл бұрын
Observatory's are expensive to run, require specialized personnel to operate, take years to show results, and whilst all data on space is useful, to the less educated and enlightened members of the population ( *Glances at evangelicals and the many inanities of hardliner religions quoting thousand year old texts as if they still hold meaning today* ), such facilities are a "waste of money better used on Earth"
@TheFinagle
Жыл бұрын
There is ALOT of sky, and there are MANY interesting things to look at. Even If we took only the observatories we would needed to watch that one point for a year we would miss out on thousands of other significant events. If we knew there was alien contact on the other end of that project it would be worth it 100%. But the evidence isn't there to dedicate that kind of time to one small spot when there is so much going on in the universe.
@MrDMIDOV
Жыл бұрын
@@Shinzon23 lol the immediate jump to blame religion rather than blaming the fact that almost all public funds are being allocated to the military-industrial complex and half-assed public services that don’t even work but somehow manages to suck up all funding. Even if religion up and disappeared tomorrow, there’s no way the budget for space exploration increases. Congress would sooner buy shiny cool explody shit from LMT than increase space exploration funding. Unless it’s space militarization of course. The only way we get more funding for space exploration is if China starts getting serious about space exploration. Nothing like a good cold war space race. Right now, space exploration is a “oh i guess that’s cool” in most people’s minds… people just don’t think it’s a priority because of all the immediate problems that we must overcome right now. War in ukraine ring any bell to you?
@Hartbreak1
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFinagle I don’t think there’s that many events out in the universe that require a “right now!” type of observation and the events that do are usually rare and don’t happen every day. Events get follow up observations depending on how much importance they’re given, so it means this event was only given that much importance and after initial observations it was deemed no longer important.
@TheFinagle
Жыл бұрын
@@Hartbreak1 An event doesn't have to be rare to be significant. There's a lot of space and there's ALWAYS several things we could be learning or seeing, but we only have so many instruments and can only watch a very small amount of the sky at a time. We miss so much just because we were not looking right at it at the right time, and this signal is just one in a long list of things we could be watching instead of the things we did watch.
Rest in peace Robert Gray. I hope one day we find out what the “wow” signal was. We owe this one to Robert!
@amelliamendel2227
3 ай бұрын
Don't tell anyone, but it was a gravitational microlensing event, basically a massive cosmic object, star, black hole, or otherwise, passed between Earth and a distant radio source (galaxy, quasar, white hole, ect.), temporarily aligning in such a way that the object's gravitational field acted as a lens. This lensing effect magnified and focused the radio waves from the distant source, resulting in a brief, intense burst of radio waves that was detected by the Big Ear telescope. The transient and singular nature of this event aligns well with the characteristics of gravitational microlensing, where the unique alignment of the observer, lens, and source amplifies the signal in a temporary and unrepeatable way, but also debris and interference can make the detection appear narrow field.
@WheresPoochie
3 ай бұрын
@@amelliamendel2227 That’s fascinating. Where can a moron like me learn more about this?
@amelliamendel2227
3 ай бұрын
@@WheresPoochie I guess if you were actually interested in the underlying principles of gravitational microlensing search for a paper titled "Microlensing mass measurement from images of rotating gravitational arcs" it's got the basic principles of gravitational microlensing and it's use for measuring the mass of isolated, really faint, or non-luminous objects in the galaxy. If you're seriously asking about microlensing and it's effects on distant radio sources, The Cosmic Lens All Sky Survey (CLASS) in New Mexico, has made some discoveries you could look into and if you're just interested in the radio frequency aspects then "Astrophysical Applications of Gravitational Microlensing", is a collection of open source papers and if you look through the references you'll find one that's a thesis and that's the one you want, but I can't remember his name, sorry.
@amelliamendel2227
3 ай бұрын
@@WheresPoochie I guess if you were actually interested in the underlying principles of gravitational microlensing search for a paper titled "Microlensing mass measurement from images of rotating gravitational arcs" it's got the basic principles of gravitational microlensing and it's use for measuring the mass of isolated, really faint, or non-luminous objects in the galaxy. If you're seriously asking about microlensing and it's effects on distant radio sources, The Cosmic Lens All Sky Survey (CLASS) in New Mexico, has made some discoveries you could look into and if you're just interested in the radio frequency aspects then "Astrophysical Applications of Gravitational Microlensing", is a collection of open source papers and if you look through the references you'll find one that's a thesis and that's the one you want, but I can't remember his name, sorry.
@amelliamendel2227
3 ай бұрын
@@WheresPoochie I guess if you were actually interested in the underlying principles of gravitational microlensing search for a paper titled "Microlensing mass measurement from images of rotating gravitational arcs" it's got the basic principles of gravitational microlensing and it's use for measuring the mass of isolated, really faint, or non-luminous objects in the galaxy. If you're seriously asking about microlensing and it's effects on distant radio sources, The Cosmic Lens All Sky Survey (CLASS) in New Mexico, has made some discoveries you could look into and if you're just interested in the radio frequency aspects then "Astrophysical Applications of Gravitational Microlensing", is a collection of open source papers and if you look through the references you'll find one that's a thesis and that's the one you want, but I can't remember his name, sorry.
I only understand maybe 10% of the content of Cool Worlds videos, but i am absolutely glued to the screen for 100% of my time watching them. I am so grateful that such diligence and brain power is given to these subjects, even if i struggle to immediately understand what i’m watching. Keep up the great work 👍
@gabrielM1111
Жыл бұрын
yah i know what you mean. i think a high iq is required to fully understand is channels videos. us middle iq people are better off going elsewhere on our level
@fkkawlni
Жыл бұрын
Fr fr
@marybodnar4749
Жыл бұрын
I completely with you. I could only dream of having this level of knowledge. It makes me sad to feel so dumb
@rohanpatel3204
8 ай бұрын
@@gabrielM1111nah don’t say that. a number like iq can’t quantify a persons ability to enjoy content like this. even if it’s hard to understand, it’s worth continuing to watch and support. don’t sell urself short. if all of us average folk could grasp this easily we’d all be astronomers and maybe someone would’ve found the next Wow signal by now 😂
@cirka4497
8 ай бұрын
All I get is the wow signal didn't repeat itself. Everything else he saying is alien to me.
You do a really great job of making science seem like a "collective human endeavour," like it's a journey and process that we're all undertaking to some extent, and we're all progressing in. It's nice. I'm not sure if I 100% agree, but it's a nice sentiment.
@solsystem1342
Жыл бұрын
I mean, practically we are all working towards our scientific understanding. At least it seems that way to me. For basically our entire existence our progress has been tied to scientific understanding. We've been wrong a lot but we keep being wrong less.
@keulron2290
Жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing; no matter what branch of science you’re exploring or making discoveries in, and no matter what purpose, it’ll all adds to and benefits the collection human knowledge. So in a sense, it is.
@gregorywaldron101
3 ай бұрын
I’d argue most of society contributes to science by simply being an active part of society. How would scientists discover anything beyond the basics without the world we’ve collectively built around them?
@Tom-uv7ry
3 күн бұрын
No he doesn't there's far far superior videos and documentaries on the subject
Thank you, Professor! My mind is challenged without being overwhelmed. The implications of the subject matter are some of the most profound questions ever asked. I thoroughly enjoy how much I learn with each and every video. With gratitude and admiration.
@Astronomiespechtler
Жыл бұрын
I share your enjoyment, Anthony! And this makes now 3 videos from you, Prof. Kipping where i could not hold back my tears - because the amount of emotions you put into those videos is something I've felt my whole about astronomy, but could so far barely find anyone who shares that - until now. Thank you very much!!
@mahi-kp3fq
Жыл бұрын
@hey human every system has its manuel- in order to master it- you must understand all its compositions- for humans the catalogue of the earth should be demmanded otherwise it's just trying after trying without getting anywhere .
@carbon_no6
Жыл бұрын
Anthony Gross.. pseudo intellectual!
Wait... You mean to tell me there has only been a relatively few HOURS of subsequent observation of the relevant area? WTF! Dude I would have never guessed that. We should have receivers pointed there at all times for at least 5-10 years minimum. If that is a directional transmitter on an Exoplanet it could take centuries before the planet comes back around to point towards us. At the very least they should give it a decade before giving up but it feels like they literally just gave up the moment it happened with just random observations here or there because someone was bored.
@dm121984
Жыл бұрын
Bonkers isn't it? I hope as satellites and the like get cheaper, some millionaire with an interest in this can comission a simple satellite that just looks for the WOW signal that uses its height and lack of atmosphere watch continuously for Wow.
@seditt5146
Жыл бұрын
@scalpel Given the strength and the fact it was blue shifted it would be wise for the government to care. If you are getting potential alien signals strong enough to suggest they are rather close and the shift of the slight suggest its getting even closer it be a good idea to follow up and either identify or rule out just so you don't have and surprises showing up on your door step in a few decades.
@badlaamaurukehu
Жыл бұрын
Of course this is an anectdota assumption
@peterwarnett
Жыл бұрын
Its intentionally suppressed. Why would this be any different?
@seditt5146
Жыл бұрын
@@peterwarnett whats suppressed? Aliens? Bro gimme a break. Every government in the world wants to be the first to report they found alien life so much so that they jumped the gun and reported they found it when we found what we thought were fossils from Mars that turned out to be ferro compounds. made naturally. Every other year someone's reporting they found alien signals which turn out to be bull. Governments would literally kill to show their superiority by being first to find alien life but they haven't yet. All that cover up stuff is to hide blackops aircraft not aliens.
This video is such a gem! Sorry to hear Robert Gray passed away. Respect for doing real science and publishing along with educating the public. It is one of the few, rare youtube channels in this regard. The quality of the video is exceptional, as always! Live long and prosper, prof. David Kipping!
This video moved me, the craftsmanship of this video, your voice, it's so beautiful.
Amazing that you two were able to collab before he passed. I hope you and others are able to keep the dream alive, just as he and others have.
I absolutely love your storytelling style. It really inspires me in my own videos. Thank you for bringing so much class to space-content creators👌
A lot of this is beyond my understanding, but you explained it effectively enough that I've been able to follow along and be as excited as you seem! Thank you.
I have a question, professor. Doesn't lack of new detection of the wow signal also reduce the probability that the signal is from some natural phenomenon?
@nikitakuznetsov8446
7 ай бұрын
11:51
@stargazer7644
3 ай бұрын
The fact that it was a narrowband signal mostly eliminates all natural phenomena. Only technology generates narrowband signals. So then the signal was either interference from our own technology, or from alien technology.
It seems like one more potential hope for it being an ET signal would be that you can't just ignore signals that don't repeat, or repeat extremely rarely, because it doesn't account for how many other potential sources of non/rarely-repeating signals there may be. So, in essence, they would have a shorter repeating interval, but that interval would be based on the density of intelligent life producing signals like this. You could even estimate the density of intelligent life from the assumption that this is a non-repeating signal from intelligent life. Something like arecebo planetary radar sweeping through another star system looking for asteroids, just happening to be directed at us at just the right time, so it could never repeat from the same source, but another civilization might do the same thing in the future.
@TheGreenKnight500
Жыл бұрын
I think we tend to assume too much about alien behavior and alien technology. We should be just as skeptical of the naysayers as we are of unconfirmed positive results. Our concepts of aliens is nearly 100% speculation. When it comes to civilization-building species, we only have ourselves as a reference point. We have a compass but no map. There is no such thing as an alien expert, but so-called experts like to have their reasoned-out hypotheses about aliens and are quick to dismiss anything outside of those boundaries. Maybe these particular aliens don't have a reason to make orderly repeating signals. Maybe they think Dyson Spheres are a bad idea. Maybe their technology works in a way we can't imagine and we simply can't pick up their signals with our current technology. Maybe their very biology works in a way we've never considered. We can really only make assumptions based on what we know and what we think we still have to learn. Despite our advancements in the past few hundred years, our ignorance is possibly infinite and anything we think we know is potentially false.
@SeeMeRolling
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGreenKnight500 but one of the facts was that the signal can only be artificially created
@lordfrostdraken
Жыл бұрын
Owie my brains…
@jamesritter4813
Жыл бұрын
Well you may be glad to know seti has been sending out signals to space giving info of are planet's location in the milkyway.altho I fully agree that this is a terrible idea n despite there warnings they do it anyways
@jamesritter4813
Жыл бұрын
Also u are 100 %correct we may have a better chance with a.i going through the data and see if it can depict if it's created by alien life forms. But as you said we have no idea what they could be how they are or the way they may speak if they even speak. Why would we assume they created radios and use radio waves at all
Being an alumn of the Ohio State University, who detected this signal, in the great state of West Virginia, where a lot of my family are from and where the Big Horn observatory was at, this has always been one of the most interesting discoveries of the radio search for extra-terrestial life to me. RIP Robert and I hope someone takes up your mantle very soon and finally answers this question definitively, using your life's work as the groundwork basis. This video brought me to tears. Thank you so much, Cool Worlds for it.
Great video as always. Thank you for sharing. And thank you for your insight, your professionalism, and your enthusiasm. Also thank you for your class. Thanking and crediting Robert Gray for his contributions.
Since the 1970s we have spent about a week looking at this region of space for another signal. That is what’s WOW!
@abdulrahmanalmawali2468
Жыл бұрын
Its insane
@acmelka
Ай бұрын
Can't one of our holy billionaire s pop for 5-8 dishes scattered across the globe to monitor... I believe you can buy a 5 meter antenna for less than a million installed
@EinsteinsHair
22 күн бұрын
@@acmelka I don't think a 5 meter dish would detect the WOW signal. Gray's backyard dish probably never had a chance. The Big Ear's dish was 21 by 110 meters, 2300 square meters. A quarter that size should have still detected it, say 600. If today's Low Noise Amplifiers are 30 times as good as what they used in the 1970s then, yes, a 20 square meter antenna would work.
@acmelka
21 күн бұрын
@@EinsteinsHair thanks. I know one billionaire who wasted 40 billion on wrecking a app.... If only
I love your videos. They're very well produced, informative & fun to watch :)
Such a perfect outro for him. Not only is he the core of whatever answer we find, but his family, children or even a brother of his, can benefit from his mission. This is something we all want. His book sales will not only feed this final answer in the future but also feed those whom he loved.
One of the best youtube videos I've ever seen. Thank you so much for putting this together
I'm very happy to have found your channel! Your voice is very nice for me to listen to! I really enjoy how you speak about space and science, you not only clearly explain things, you leave room for awe, wonder and also lonelyness and weirdness. In short, the emotions along with learning to understand better what is the universe we live in. QUestion: could you please upload your video's as a podcast too. I often just listen rather then speak. But I would enjoy it while walking in the mountains too, being able to just listen to your words. Kind regards from Amsterdam, the Netherlands
“DO NOT ANSWER. DO NOT ANSWER.”
I have been working my way through your videos, and I have to say that they are some of the very best content anywhere on the internet, period.
Greetings from Greece! Such a nicely presented video about such an important Astronomy subject. Cool Worlds raises the bar for You Tube videos!!! Great job! Thank you for being so comprehensive and informative.
While I don’t agree that Wow can be “conclusively excluded” based on repeatability (owning to the fact that our own signals to the universe have never been repeated)..I am pleasantly surprised to see Cool Worlds increasingly discuss the 👽 topic. Please continue.
@jerlee620
Жыл бұрын
@Raistlin Majere Hm not sure..I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!
@kadoj
Жыл бұрын
If you’re not into spooky aliens/body horror, probably don’t. XD but, is a great series if that’s a non-issue.
@letsgobrandon2523
Жыл бұрын
This. For some reason we portray aliens as these static beings why are trying to be found. If they are like us, they're transmissions will appear random, un focused and relatively weak, with rand focused transmissions reaching out with no real hope of being detected.
@benw9949
Жыл бұрын
Our radio and TV signals, and now computer signals, go out from Earth every day. This includes reruns of those radio and TV programs, hit movies, etc. So there's some small potential that repeating (rerun, repeat airings) programs could go out along with non-repeating but non-random signals. Would our media survive the distance to other stars? Would it make any sense to aliens? No idea. But it might.
@resteazy847
Жыл бұрын
@Cool Worlds What about a model that backs into some drake equation answers by using assumptions like: (1) aliens at the same phase of technology where they would bother to send/receive a Wow signal are like human beings, and would also do a non-repeating for a few mins, (2) data about the region of sky that has been observed/not observed for the four interesting reasons you mention in your video by all radio telescopes including Big Ear and for how long, (3) some other assumptions based on likely number of habitable exoplanets in the galaxy?
The videos you produce to the standard that you do, bring me more peace and hope than words can articulate. I wish, when I was in high school, that science & physics were taught in the same engaging and awe inspiring format that you do. Thank you so much, you’re a truly gifted educator 👏🏽 Rest easy Rob, you’ve got the best man on the job to take over your hard work and passion 🖤
@reggieziet
Жыл бұрын
Well said, exactly my thoughts
@behr121002
Жыл бұрын
Hear, hear! Couldn't agree more!
@CoolWorldsLab
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for those kind words, I hope this video does Gray’s memory justice.
@voodoochile7581
Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@pineapplepenumbra
Жыл бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab "I hope this video does Gray’s memory justice." Rest assure, it most certainly does.
This is the most comprehensive treatment of the WOW signal on KZread. Geared for the non physicist. Thank you for the great work!
I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of this video. Thank you.
The ending of the video with your heart felt tribute to Mr. Gray brought tears to my eyes.
Love how you “squeeze” everything out of the data, as you said. This video and the one about artificial gravity where you showed the graph of practical spaceships and requirements for artificial gravity on long journeys. Just love seeing all the possibilities instead of just saying “hey this idea is cool”
@benchasinghorizons9428
Жыл бұрын
Standing on the shoulder of a giant...
@andykod77
Жыл бұрын
Yep cause we all got our spaceships in the garage which we can hop in at our leisure right
@jacobvreeland6147
Жыл бұрын
@@andykod77 FFS, how many said that about cars or cell phones or international air travel, shits gotta start somewhere.
@andykod77
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobvreeland6147 here's hoping right
@JIMMYtheB0B
Жыл бұрын
@@andykod77 OP "thanks for doing thorough and intuitive stats analysis for us" Andy "but I don't have a spaceship"
Thanks for the video and thank you for your continued work on this question
You're just unbelievable, Professor. In a technical, scientific video, you paid homage to Robert Gray. Your sense of wonder and mission are invaluable to us. Thank you.
This is a work of love, dedication and science. As a fellow scientist, in a totally different field, chapeu.
Thank you for that thought-provoking and highly informative video. The standard of your Cool Worlds videos is simply outstanding! I have no scientific training but hugely enjoy your presentations, so thank you once again for all the effort you put into them.
Congrats on this beautiful episode, it catches my logic and my soul. Great analysis btw, how the sandbox approach turns the analytic view around and recognise the probability of detecting the signal again.
Best briefing on this subject I've ever heard, Thanks
Thank you for another incredible video
@BillAnt
Жыл бұрын
Rage Against the Machine did a cool Wow-Wow too. ;D kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYBou9SAkbWedZc.html
Wow, I was 12 during the first wow signal. 45 years ago. I remember when this was in the news. This is really good to hear, I have often wondered about that wow signal. Thank you. I love this channel.
@SMELLGOODER
Жыл бұрын
I was 5, and 0 memories of the initial occurrence ........but now? WOW, indeed.
@jamesshaffer206
Жыл бұрын
@@SMELLGOODER yes it is, lol us older ppl been waiting to hear of Alien life for a long time.. the possibilities..........
@heuzame6198
Жыл бұрын
I wasnt even born by then. Actually i wasnt even born after a lot of things happened, but it is still worth to wonder about it.
@raymondtorres196
Жыл бұрын
I was 3 and half years old, & i am the couse of the WOW signal!!! My mom's told me we were on a 747 & the pilot let in his lap for a pic, then I dropped my bottle it spilled all my baby milk all over the instruments, sparks were all over, the pilot said" WOW" all the instruments all sending signals all over the place...So you see that's how I believe iwas the couse of the "WOW" Signal...
@jamesshaffer206
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondtorres196 ok Raymond, I’ll buy that. It’s probably almost as good a theory there is anyhow. Lol. By the way, cause is with an a not an o.
You are a one-of-a-kind scientist and man. Over the last year or so I've become a very big fan of your work. You really put the heart back into human exploration and science.
My condolences to you and to Robert Gray’s family. May he Rest In Peace. I hope that someone at NASA will take up this research now that they are open to looking into UAPs.
That was an incredible analysis and extremely well explained.
@viperracing2889
Жыл бұрын
This story is a big lie. They were able to trace the signal to a microwave in the lunch room.
Thank you again, for this amazing production, Professor Kipping. Being a Subscriber to *Cool Worlds* is like opening a present that you didn't expect, every day.
@andreasthulin3154
Жыл бұрын
+1
@thommieboyb1
Жыл бұрын
Could not agree more. Many Thanks to you!!!
@curiodyssey3867
Жыл бұрын
good lord I always read it as 'Professor Kidnapping' like some kind of evil MCU villain. almost everytime my brain just automatically does it just to mess with me. I think I'm going crazy :(
Thank you very much for this very special video, dear Prof. Kipping. It's great and impressive how you explain this and remember this dedicated scientist. I will not forget that and hope that the hopes you expressed come true.
Cool Worlds is by far my favorite channel and I thoroughly enjoyed this video like no other.
what an amazing video into the power of science to deep dive into a question. Super inspired!
What a Consistency, What a Quality, What a depth.
@RedSkyHorizon
Жыл бұрын
I believe the word you're looking for is, Wow!
FINALLY FOUND YOU. I always watch these kinds of videos while I’m doing stuff and I always forget to subscribe and of course when I want to find your channel KZread never shows your videos and I can never remember the channel name. Dude I literally spent two hours today looking for you and of course I just open the app looking for another background video and bam here you are.
45 years is but a blink in time. And perhaps, the Wow signal was not intended for us at all. For example, as a mariner, we typically keep the VHF on channel 16...the general hailing freq. But often when you wish to have a more private conversation with another sailor, once the chan. 16 hail has been acknowledged, we switch to another freq. to keep 16 open. So....maybe the Wow signal was just such a request for a freq. change between communicators.
@0okamino
22 сағат бұрын
Signal message translation: “Is your refrigerator running?”
That was beautiful, especially the tribute at the end
I imagine Robert Gray is resting peacefully knowing that Dr Kipping is continuing the search to WoWs meaning. I would've loved being a fly on the wall when this transmission was seen for the first time. Thank you for creating another amazing video. I adore Cool Worlds and all the content you produce! Thank you!
@dandeeteeyem2170
Жыл бұрын
This is a prank gone horribly wrong. Someone out there has a great burden on their conscience, no doubt. Why doesn't someone do a FOIA request for old military satellite telemetry data?
@DeathValleyDazed
Жыл бұрын
@@dandeeteeyem2170 Well, why isn’t that “someone” you? Please proceed with your FOIA and report your results here.
@DeathValleyDazed
Жыл бұрын
@@viperracing2889 - Very clever comment. Love dark humor.
Just found this channel. never gonna leave..keep up the great work..greets from Spain
12:02 Just stumbled on this channel out of the blue. As a scientist myself, I have to say how much I admire you translating your work into this highly accessible public-facing format. That is really really cool. You don't see many actual researchers here on KZread. Should be more. :)
That would be great news!
@Scragg-
Жыл бұрын
Or terrible news if the dark forest theory is true.
Holy cow, not pulling any stops with this one. Very impressive work yet again!
@viperracing2889
Жыл бұрын
This story is a big lie. They were able to trace the signal to a microwave in the lunch room.
@EternamDoov
Ай бұрын
@@viperracing2889In what lunch room? The detectors were outside.
@EternamDoov
Ай бұрын
The phrase is "pulling out all of the stops" in reference to pipe organs. What you said means the opposite of what you intended.
You got me. Great great video and storytelling. Subscribed. Thanks.
What a great episode! Thx for being such a good content creator and scientist!
Thank you, the best explanation of the 'WOW' signal I have yet heard. Keep up your good work.
@viperracing2889
Жыл бұрын
This story is a big lie. They were able to trace the signal to a microwave in the lunch room.
Gotta say, you have a phenomenal voice and impeccable diction. I love listening to you speak. ;)
@axl1002
Жыл бұрын
Same :)
@CoolWorldsLab
Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing what a good mic can do!
@DrNothing23
Жыл бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab Good answer! ;)
@EternamDoov
Ай бұрын
Except for the word "skepticism"
@EternamDoov
Ай бұрын
and "statistical"
I've watched this video every night to fall asleep to and each night I think I'll comment tomorrow but always forget so I'm doing it now I think it's great how you mention the actual person who discovered the signal. I've watched space stuff constantly for the past 6 years on KZread and seen plenty on the wow signal and not once did anyone say it was found by a member of the public never mind naming the guy. Props to you guys for giving him the credit he deserves
C'mon Robert, you only needed 1,500. more hours, how rough, and tragic... The footnote that he was the first amateur astronomer granted access to such an array will live on. Thank you man, will read the book!
David: * _breathes_ * Me: 👀🦻 “Fascinating.”
Thank you for going into the WOW signal in depth.
Amazing work again, and it definitely gives me some hope for a repeat, but I'm still wondering how does not detecting it again rule out the possibility of a one-off intelligent signal, either something like the one-off messages we've sent into space, or some accidental leakage that won't be directed our way again?
@CoolWorldsLab
Жыл бұрын
A one-off signal is fully accounted for by this model remember! The probability of someone sending a one off is not that important, the real issue is the probability of detection is infinitesimal. If someone sends one signal out over *all time* (which defines a one off) then the probability of detection is far far far far less likely than some kind of repeating schedule.
@jamesgeary4294
Жыл бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab so essentially the odds of wow being a one-off intelligent signal and us happening to detect that one-off signal would be insanely small?
@liammoore7122
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesgeary4294 yeah I think it’s saying the odds of us picking up a one off signal is so small that scientifically speaking we couldn’t conclude that is the case.
@jamesgeary4294
Жыл бұрын
@@liammoore7122 I wonder then could the same model used to figure out how much more observation time was needed to confirm wow also be used to ask how frequent one-off signals might be if we assume wow is one, and that the Big Ear radio telescope still detected one over its search time? Maybe could be a proxy for how many civilizations are in the galaxy?
@simontmn
Жыл бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab What if a lot of one-off signals are being sent out? Surely that is not implausible?
I'd like a thought experiment on this, coming from the hypothetical aliens viewpoint. Why would you send the signal? Where would you send it to and how often? Why would you send a narrow beam signal in one direction only? What if their resources are limited and they could not 'afford' to send it in our direction again? (in the same way our telescope resources are limited) - would that even be a thing for a more advanced civilisation? Lots of other questions too about their side of the story.
@Rebelrenaissance
Жыл бұрын
depending on how far away the source is, a movement as small as tectonic shifts could redirect the signal billions of eventual miles away. so I guess it could be that. or it could be a spray and pray strategy. maybe due to power limits, orbits or similar. could be literally anything at all depending on how that life evolved to communicate, relate to consciousness or time etc. 🤷♂️
@kittehgo
Жыл бұрын
Sorry guys, we are scrapping this project. You get only one chance to do this radio thing, then unfortunately we have to pack it up.
@shellderp
Жыл бұрын
You're assuming it would have to be an intentional signal to other civilizations. We're constantly sending out radio waves from antennas, satellites, into space that anyone could observe
@marcopohl3236
Жыл бұрын
@@shellderp it went from weak to strong to weak again, suggesting that it was a laser emitted from a rotating surface
@feliciagaffney1998
Жыл бұрын
@@marcopohl3236 I thought the strength was accounted for by our rotation
Im always astounded by by your knowledge, you are one clever man
What a beautiful and insightful video - thank you.
You just earned a new subscriber. Fantastic video.
Amazing! I was too young to remember the ‘Wow’ signal in real time but have learned about it since. Carl Sagan’s book ‘Contact’ is one of my favs……. I was never great at maths but love everything to do with the universe, planets, and their mysteries and I love checking in to the NASA deep space network and watch the signals being sent to Voyager from Tidbinbilla radio telescope in Canberra, here in Australia or when it’s receiving a signal from Voyager- so special as the expectation is that there’s only a few years left when we may be able to detect Voyager’s signal at all …… just extraordinary ….. 😊😊😊🇦🇺
Such a brilliant mind and so carefully thought out. Nice. ❤
26:20 a Saganesque moment… thanks for this beautiful and very interesting video !
Love the mysterious topics like the Wow signal. This'll be good 👍🏻
@mphet1000
Жыл бұрын
there is no any mistery in WOW, pure yellow story
@KingBritish
Жыл бұрын
@@mphet1000 There's a mystery in your spelling though 🤔
@john9982
Жыл бұрын
@@KingBritish don't be a troll, we are all on the same side here, love of science.
@KingBritish
Жыл бұрын
@@john9982 That's not being a troll. His comment was unnecessary
@mphet1000
Жыл бұрын
@@KingBritish lingvo teacher detected on youtube
With a 100% confidence, it's simply impossible to watch a Cool World's video without tearing up.
You are the only channel on KZread I can actually make sense of all of this through your explanations. Thank you! It would be nice to see you on the Joe Rogan podcast and share some of your knowledge with others.
loving the channel, professor.
Damn dude, really glad i found your channel. This was such a great video i didnt touch my food past the 2 min mark. Cant wait to see what you do next!
What a treat! A new cool world's video out of no where! Thanks professor kipping! ✌🏼
@CoolWorldsLab
Жыл бұрын
Ye I didn’t pre-announce this one, hopefully a nice surprise for everyone!
@emzywillrich7243
Жыл бұрын
I agree. It was a surprise and a treat. Dr. Kipping delivers!!!
I welled up at the end in hearing the reverent respect used when discussing your being part of the paper with Robert.
A great and passionate hommage to Robert Gray. Thank you for the research and the video!
Staying curious, sir! Fascinating video. I look at it this way: As I understand it, the primary detractor of this and other interesting signals over the years is that it has only been detected once without repeat. But here’s the thing… Often I make a phone call or receive a phone call to/from a person I will only speak with them once, and with our business concluded, I have no reason to speak with them again. That certainly doesn’t mean that I don’t exist; it certainly doesn’t mean that he/she doesn’t exist. It means I have no reason to repeat the call.
@solsystem1342
Жыл бұрын
They also don't have to establish first contact over lightyears without a shared language or agreed means of comunication. It's silly to send one signal and expect someone to respond. If you want someone to pick up the phone you don't shine a window into their bedroom one night and then wait. You'd keep flashing it until they send you something back or something at least.
@MoonjumperReviews
Жыл бұрын
@@solsystem1342 True, although that assumes that the signal was meant for us and we didn’t answer. I would tend to assume the signal had nothing to do with us, but we just happened to observe it. (Or it is wasn’t a signal at all.) Anything is possible.
Shed a few tears there at the end. Thank you, Professor Kipping.
So speechless after watching any CW videos and especially this one. So much to think about. Thank you.
Great, great show. Many thanks to you and really beautiful words about Robert Gray.
I swear, the song at 8:35 is why I keep coming back. Never stop using it! Thanks for another great video with TONS of content and wonder, David. I'm convinced the Wow wasn't random! You're becoming the new Carl Sagan. From your calm disposition and enlightening views, to the fact that you dedicated the whole conclusion to Robert speaks volumes about your character.
@CoolWorldsLab
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m always looking for new music but there are favourites I keep coming back to!
@Nulley0
Жыл бұрын
Sounds similar to a track from Geoplex, what's the name btw?
@superawesomegoku6512
Жыл бұрын
@@Nulley0 Falls - Life in Binary
i'd never heard of Robert till i watched this and when i learned he was the first amateur to get time at the VLA i gave out a 'get in there'. only to be saddened when i learned of his death, such a shame he never got to see the finish of his work, i hope of course we find out about the WOW and Roberts name's forever linked to it
The explanation of what the number mean at the beginning was very helpful
Thank you! Thank you! What a spectacular explanation of something so very special
I have always had this curiosity about the Wow! Signal! I am so glad you are interested as well! It has always seemed to me that there weren't enough people trying to detect it again or that were at least studying it. In 1977, I was 10 years old, and I read about the Wow! Signal back then because my father always had a subscription to Scientific America (and other science/tech magazines) in the house. In the Army, my father worked with Radars and Satellites in the Signal Corps.
I actually think "WOW" was some sort of extremely rare natural phenomena, because the signal never repeated. Some part of me hopes it's artificial
@timd3469
Жыл бұрын
I don't think we can say it never repeated. We have looked in, or maybe more accurately listened back to, the area we believe* it came from. But far from continuously. My understanding is that it has NOT been monitored the VAST majority of the time. *My understanding is that the two horns mean we are not certain which part of the sky it came from. But that may be wrong.
@khumokwezimashapa2245
Жыл бұрын
@@timd3469 Valid point. It might have repeated, but we just never caught it.
@tabby73
Жыл бұрын
But didn't he say Robert Gray had a telescope in his backyard specifically to listen for it? Presumably continuously?
@timd3469
Жыл бұрын
@@tabby73 he did, and Robert did. I don't know how much of the possible source area his telescope could cover though. Even if it was 100%, the rotation of the Earth means he is only monitoring it a fraction of the time. I do hope it was aliens even though I wouldn't bet money on it.
@dirremoire
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.The rotation of the Earth precludes the fact that it could ever be continuously monitored from just one telescope.
Dr. Kipping: Just wanted to say, thank you personally for this video. You of all people I'd expect to call the Wow! signal dead. Your unfailing inquiry into the truth is amazing. I have my personal beliefs, and have shared them on social media, but you were the inspiration and I thank you for that. Stay curious. Stay awesome.
Thinking of the wow signal, how far ago it was and statistically speaking theres still a small chance it could be something magnificent, puts a warm smile on my face.
Imagine being an intelligent species sending out these signals and going through all the effort only for the intended recipients to just not have the tech to decipher your messages or even recognise it as a message at all. Even worse, that might be the only signal that species sent out before it went extinct.
@mstrfool
Жыл бұрын
Don't need to imagine. We are living it.. All except the extinction part. Though humans are putting in real effort on that.
@mstrfool
Жыл бұрын
@@sgvincent100 Ok, you rock.
@pineapplepenumbra
Жыл бұрын
@@sgvincent100 Actually it says, "We want _all_ of your biscuits!"
@MentalWanderings
Жыл бұрын
If they send signals out in a wide spread, I'd imagine they'd also catch a more advanced species as well. I mean if there are two, there may be more. Hopefully!
@mstrfool
Жыл бұрын
@@MentalWanderings If you never find something, you can be forgiven for not believing in it. But, if you find it even once, odds are good there are many more you simply haven't found. Personally I feel humans count as that one. To me, the proof that others are out there is.. Well, humans are.
Coolness. Me and my father-in-law just visited Hat Creek Radio Observatory/Allen Telescope Array yesterday too. great video!
Always love your presentation. I want WOW to repeat. Imagine the excitement among us star gazers
@stargazer7644
3 ай бұрын
I'm excited.