The only thing the defense witnesses are doing is convincing me what an absolutely incredible human being Dan Brophy was. God bless his sweet, tenacious soul.

@isabellind1292

Жыл бұрын

Seeing the picture of Dan holding his red rooster (I think it's a rooster) is so touching. It speaks to his loving & caring nature. I can imagine his chickens & dogs loved him so much, seeing him bright & early to tend to them every day. And dropping off coffee grounds to his neighbor for her garden. 🌱💓He was so beloved. What a sweet & beautiful soul. RIP Dan Brophy.🌹❤

@alswedgin9274

Жыл бұрын

I agree; the victim is all around portrait as the type of person you want/need in your community.

@dormiebasne3578

Жыл бұрын

​@Al Swedgin it's an utter shame Portland lost hm

Geez, the defense is killing us with unpreparedness and boredom.

@barbiekat6352

2 жыл бұрын

No kidding! They act like they are making small talk at a church pot luck! 🙄🙄🙄

@hoppy6141

2 жыл бұрын

These are supposed to be a competent legal team but all I see is fumbling everywhere.

@nonmihiseddeo4181

Жыл бұрын

@@hoppy6141 I think the defense could have done a better job, if not for their client's B I G mouth on the witness stand, admitting to actions she previously denied or said she had amnesia for, as well as that she told her attorneys falsehoods, which they used to craft their defense.

@ld-zj1bn

6 ай бұрын

Providing great defense witnesses for the prosecution anyway.

If I hear another description of Live Fire I’m going to gouge my eyes out 😱

Hmmm why was the Garden over run and the blackberry bushes over whelming..... He was working two + JOBS while his wife over spent, lived in vivid fantasy all while claiming to be an author and planning his death. Jesus He deserved rest. He deserved love and real admiration. A narcissist through and through.

@aimeerestad6521

9 ай бұрын

She was probably poisoning him too!

@sheinFL

9 ай бұрын

Geez dan worked 7 days a week, fed the chickens, made dinner, did laundry. No time for his garden :(

Estrada's memory was pretty good when defense questioned her, but when prosecution questioned her, it was so long ago she couldn't recall.

It's weird how the witness keeps saying she "witnessed" Dan watching TV like he was slipping into alcoholism, passing out with a bottle in his hand.

I'm not a doctor but, if Dan was doing all of these uncharacteristic things IMO it's a sign of depression, being overwhelmed to keep this witch 🤬 happy. Basically overworking that he didn't have time to do the things he truly loved like tending to his garden. Just my own personal opinion on the matter

@Rae_777

10 ай бұрын

I think that’s definitely coming across in all of the personal/home witnesses. One thing I’ve noticed watching family murder trials is that most narcissists begin to kill their victim psychologically before they finish the job ☹️

The evidence is overwhelming against her, the guns, the citing of her van, the insurance.

The husband of Nancy’s niece said that he had boxes of her stuff in his basement. When asked by the prosecutor if he had gone through it he said “No, it is her stuff”. I wonder how long it will take the police to get a search order?

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

Get out the popcorn.... I thought this was a fab moment. He also did a good job for the prosecution. I think his wife will ream him tonight. He seems to be a very honest what-you-see-is-what-you-get guy, she a wolf in sheep's clothing. I can't see those two being together at all. And he never looked at Nancy. Yeah, prosecution! Get the search warrant!

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleuththewild The niece (Estrada) isn't Gitchell's wife, is she? She said her children are grown and he mentioned having a young son. He lives in Portland and I think Estrada lives in TX.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@barbaragrove6097 Yes, the niece is his wife AFAIK. She looks older than he does, so maybe she had a previous marriage? That was my understanding.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@barbaragrove6097 Nancy is Gitchell's wife's aunt. That's how he describes himself on the stand. I took this to mean he's married to Susan.

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleuththewild I wondered if his wife was another niece of Nancy's.

So..... without a scintilla of evidence and just because he's homeless and in the area the defense has the right to accuse Oscar of murder or at least strongly insinuate that he murdered Dan ????? They broadcast his name and face for the entire world to see and that is allowed???? If that's not slander, I don't know what is. How is that allowed? #fuming I hope Oscar can find a lawyer who will win him a nice settlement from these despicable attorneys.

@GH-oi2jf

2 жыл бұрын

Everything said in court is privileged.

@StellaFl

2 жыл бұрын

@@GH-oi2jf I don't think that's the case when it's broadcast live around the world.

@saharaussery6799

2 жыл бұрын

The "some other dude did it" defense is a classic...and it almost always involves naming some "other dude" and pointing the finger at that person as the killer...they also insinuated that it could have been any one of the students using the GI Bill to pay tuition...because, of course, any of them could just flip out from ptsd and shoot the place up (despicable suggestion). They also brought up that it could have been some "enraged" person who applied to the school but didn't get into classes...or any electrician/repairman/plumber/gas man that had ever come to the school. The prosecution clearly brought out with more than one witness that Oscar was cleared as a possibility.

@StellaFl

2 жыл бұрын

@@saharaussery6799 You're right. I take issue with the fact the defense not only named Oscar but they also showed his face. What if that person was me or you or anyone else who happened to be in the area?

@saharaussery6799

2 жыл бұрын

@@StellaFl well...when she is convicted, all those she wrongly accused will be vindicated

Wow, I'm looking at old footage. Nancy spoke of Dan as the shooting victim before Law enforcement told her he was. And she never asked after Dan, if he was okay, etc. until a ways into her first interview. Never "I'm worried about him".

The judge should be noticing that NB is coaching Susan by shaking her head. Watch when the defense is questioning about insurance commission hold backs....Nancy is coaching by shaking her head yes. SHe's probably been doing it throughout the testimony as I've caught Susan looking over and smiling or shrugging when she doesn't know the answer but Nancy is not always in the frame so I can see what she is doing. The coaching is so blatant during the defense re-cross in how insurance commissions are paid-that shouldn't have been missed by the judge and the defense should have been admonished. Check 21:53, 22:22, 23:00....

@judithengle7875

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for bringing this up. I wish we could bump this comment.

@janee9169

2 жыл бұрын

That is very interesting! I admit I don't keep my eyes on my phone screen very much so didnt see this. I'm surprised judge and/or state don't say something.

I pray justice is served. And jury will be critical. This has been dragging ....

I think defense can try to point the jury in a hundred different directions, but it's not going to erase the fact that they have her SUV circling the block the morning of the shooting when she said she was at home. How do you get past that?

@R3cuzican

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly but instead they want to focus on coffee, a puddle and a homeless man canning… oh and a phone bill after the fact

@dormiebasne3578

Жыл бұрын

​@@R3cuzican and a waffle iron, for whatever weird reason.

Nancy had 2 expensive Starbucks coffees a day? That’s, like, $300 per month.

@hoppy6141

2 жыл бұрын

The WF credit card statement shown by PPB forensic accountant during direct showed a $4.25 SB charge every day. That’s a more expensive drink for 2018 menu. No wonder she didn’t pay the mortgage with $140k cash income - she spent lots on all kinds of other things and the ins premiums!

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was only one Starbucks a day we were talking about, but in her testimony, Susan said there were at least 2 every day. Dan bought her one first thing in the morning and brought it to her in bed. Such a sweet guy.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

IIRC Dan was bringing home less than $3k per month. I don’t remember the $145k. The insurance was over half their monthly salary deposit.

@hoppy6141

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleuththewild the tax expert testified to that number. Which actually isn’t a good point for defense - she couldn’t make due even with that amount.

@hoppy6141

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleuththewild I haven’t been able to listen the the daily ear bleeding but that is really nice to get up early like that. She was treated like a queen.

I’ve had to put this on double speed to get through it.

@michaeladragon

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I've been doing, but then all the "umms" are even more annoying

@R3cuzican

2 жыл бұрын

Same I had to keep skipping

This woman is attempting to out guess and slide by the prosecutors questions. She hasn't realized she is giving him what he wants. He is very good at hiding the points he wants in seemingly innocuous questions. She is not slick enough. She fails.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

I actually think the prosecution is very effective (except on insurance questions). Overstreet has daggers, but presents them like butter knives. Susan makes things worse and worse for herself the longer she talks, and Overstreet is sounding like Mr. Nice Guy, politely letting her get away with it. Susan has no idea the information she is giving away....

@faithf.malcolm3739

2 жыл бұрын

The prosecutor totally own every defense witness so far😏

Could you imagine a family gathering with this lot. Every one of them says YOU KNOW YOU KNOW YOU KNOW..... When the families have conversations there can't be much substance when everyone is saying YOU KNOW during said conversation.

@michaeladragon

2 жыл бұрын

Umm, you know, it might, umm, be, you know, fun or umm something

@kimgale262

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeladragon Right!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@kimgale262

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeladragon I wonder how much "YOU KNOW ummmm" Nancy writes in her novels.

‘You know?’ ‘You know?’ God bless. Stop it!! No. We don’t know, and your testimony is POINTLESS.

I hate that water pitcher.

Where’s the part where she says “I can’t defend myself against the truth” lol

@brenandbruiser9885

2 жыл бұрын

It’s on her cross examination. The prosecutor also asks her “are you done?” And she answers “probably way more than I would like to be.”

Reminder: no court tomorrow.

Defense attorney said you have to be wealthy to stay in that house. Actually, that house was a bargain ($1500/mo)...way below current market rates, and any rental would have been at least twice as much. Also, Dan must have been about 10 years from paying it off, a much healthier nest egg than paying for insurance. Nancy's ideas would have cost a fortune. A condo + HOA fees on the Portland riverfront? Ha! That's not downsizing, that's upsizing, and it's for rich people.

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

"Management" seems financially challenged.

@barbiekat6352

2 жыл бұрын

She planned on getting a “windfall” soon!

@faithf.malcolm3739

2 жыл бұрын

Nancy wanted out of that messy house and boring marriage, so she killed him for that new life. Sad!

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

@@faithf.malcolm3739 and she wanted off the $inking ship, and life insurance would do the trick

@barbiekat6352

2 жыл бұрын

@@faithf.malcolm3739 people like Nancy are as “messy” on the inside as that house was on the outside!

46:44 this witness has a charming sense of humor… “shoot the… business” “admirably dry; aspirationally dry.”

It seems like most of the witnesses for the defense are more of a help to the prosecution than the defense, or at the very least not helpful for the defense at all. And some of the questions the defense is asking some of these witnesses - ?? Chef Brophy‘s protégé only exemplified what a great guy he was. What on earth did that do for the defense?

@PinkyakaAyannaj

27 күн бұрын

Exactly...it just showed everyone that Dan didn't deserve to be murdered 😢 Dan was probably looking so forward to walking her down the aisle in place of her father who died young😢 Nancy even said that she "cried on cue" in the 1 jail phone call that was allowed into evidence 🙁 Nancy ruined so many lives with her act of greed😡

Guilty af

It's remarkable how plainly dishonest the niece is, and her disrespect for the court proceedings just makes her look entitled and petulant. Yes dear, if you agree to testify, you will be cross examined. Amazing such lunatics walk among us as if they're normal people. Ugh.

If I hear the word “policy” one more time, I’m going to be sick.

Susan even looks like Nancy. Same face shape.

Great comparative testimony to Susan's BS: Karen Brophy's on Day 4 and Day 3? 5? She testified two different days. It's from Karen that we know what really was going on. She's so careful with information. The opposite of Susan who aims to say nothing. These are good days to watch if you want to keep busy over the weekend! Also watch Woody's testimony.

Prosecution, why are you not addressing the issue of Dan's garden being let go because he was working 2 jobs to get them out of debt? I would be tired too working all those hours and spend some time relaxing before the TV. Come on, you need to work harder and get this done.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

The timeline might not work.? Or maybe someone could easily testify against it? Blackberries that bad must have taken some time to set in. But, it is important that Dan was planning to re-do the garden. He had no plans to sell the house. And why didn't Nancy take that job instead of having Dan take a second job? Or....A job at Walmart might have paid for her Starbucks habit.

@laradesautel3013

2 жыл бұрын

He DID just recently take that second job - good point! I don’t here they pointed out by prosecution.

@GH-oi2jf

2 жыл бұрын

Who would be the witness for Dan’s motivtion? The prosecutor could talk about that in closing arguments, I suppose. The jury can figure that out on their own.

@goudagrishhdoe8925

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleuththewild not many guys let their wife pick up the second job lol even if she was the source of the debt. Society expects the man to fix the problem and I’m sure that’s what Dan set out to do.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@goudagrishhdoe8925 NB wasn't doing a whole lot of any kind of work: as she testified on stand, her SS was pitiful because she made hardly any money. It would have been pretty much a first job for her. I think it never occurred to her that she should be contributing. And she killed Dan for $$$$$; had to have her free lunch.

Why do we have to hear about a woman walking a poodle as though this is potentially criminal behavior? IMO prosecution was great when he asked if there was a different place she could go than around the corner, i.e. into an apartment building. And defense PAID for this video analysis? Heck, this was another witness that the homeless guy was likely canning.

@uttersolitude

Жыл бұрын

Homeless = bad is the cornerstone of their defense.

Did anyone else hear Gitchell call the defense attorneys the "two dames"? LMAO. He revealed his disdain for them.

@barbiekat6352

2 жыл бұрын

@ 59:32 🤣🤣🤣the witness pointed to the defense and then prosecution and said “both of these teams…” He’s way too young to use a term like that (unless he was maybe raised by his grandparents!) The only two people I ever heard refer to anyone as “dames” were my elderly father and Archie Bunker! 🥸

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

Who is Sarah? Do you mean Susan Estrada?

@marynovak1782

2 жыл бұрын

I heard teams…

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@barbaragrove6097 Yes, sorry. I mean Susan Estrada. I wrote it that way once, and changed it. Maybe I'm confusing something. I'll check.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@barbaragrove6097 You are correct. I have changed all the Sarahs to Susans.

You know? You know? You know? Geeez is he nervous or what. My god 😅

The defense is desperate to come up with ways to defend her. I have a feeling after all these days of defense testimony the jury will make a decision in a few hours. Is there anyone watching who believes she is innocent?

@janee9169

2 жыл бұрын

I'm behind on watching but wanted to respond. I think jury could go either way, honestly. I don't think prosecution has made their case at all. They keep trying to make a big deal out of her trying to collect life insurance but she did nothing except what any normal beneficiary would do. I'm not saying there aren't issues and she very well could have, I'm just saying I don't think the prosecutor has been any more competent.

This trial is taking FOREVER.

😂 Susan Estrada, the prosecution witness Nancy deserves.

Nancy so lazy she couldnt even make coffee. 😮

Can someone explain why they are counting the number of calls to Karen ?

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. They're doing it because they're mean and can't think of anything else. Despicable. It seems to be they want to dispute Karen's testimony (Day 4?5?) that Nancy cut back on how much time she was spending with the senior Brophys after Dan's death. I guess they want to make like Karen is lying. If you re-watch Karen's testimony, I think you'll agree that this would be a DISASTROUS tactic, since you can't but hear her speak and feel for her and her loss. Karen's testimony also had plenty of acknowledgement that she might mis-remember things because of her age. It was built in. Why would you want to turn someone into a liar who's already put out there she might mis-remember? For all that, Karen was soooo careful and thoughtful about what she said. IMO It's not even important whether Nancy visited Karen less or called her less. It is true Nancy told them she didn't want their help getting the house together.

@MaryContrary1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleuththewild excellent explanation! Thank you. It should be interesting to see what the defense comes up with tomorrow.

You know

Who does she think she is ? Is it more expensive to buy a policy as you get older, The answer is yes not umm, ok, umm, yeah er yeah I’m the um, ok, um - then has the cheek to say to the prosecution- I’m answering your question, correct?! I’d be like, no not correct, you’re ummm ing and aaaah ing, I’d like that you answer my question? Far too lenient with her !

The afternoon witnesses didn’t help Nancy. Calls between Nancy and Dan’s family after the murder, what does that prove? The guy collecting cans, a known person.

@lyndseylan1

2 жыл бұрын

They are just trying to give doubt to the jury

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

Defense shouldn't touch Dan's family with a 10-foot pole! All three were so sympathetic. They prolly have the whole court on their side except for the defense table.

OM!… That woman for the State is on my last nerve W/ that clearing of the throat thing she’s doin. Ugh 😩

When is the trial going to continue

It would be hard for the defense to find a worse video “expert”

Guy with curly hair about 3rd in : nobody knows that is why they are asking you. If they knew they would not ask you . Stop saying you know , I can predict nearly every one

Seen in the comments bout pep bein confused to who Matthew G. is… He’s not Susan’s husband he’s another niece of Nancy name Sarah.

Strange dude

Pure racism and Stereotyping. The defense is pathetic.

When is Nancy going to be up?

@GH-oi2jf

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe next week.

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

Should be interesting

@faithf.malcolm3739

2 жыл бұрын

She has to testify because her defense has nothing😫

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

@@faithf.malcolm3739 can't image that her testimony will help her

@kayleiasierra2251

2 жыл бұрын

When does this trial resume? Never seen such sparatic days of a trial, & a defense such as this one. Has had plenty of time to put a case together though IMO would be a lost but in this case I wouldn't be surprised if there's an appeal due to the defense's lack of representation. Graduates could do better. JS .At the end of the day IMO she is totally guilty. What a horrific crime against this man. My heart, & prayers go out to the precious parents, & family of MS. Brody. Hope the defendant gets life without parole.

Does anyone have any idea what the purpose of the forensic telephone guy is? Why would he be investigating Nancy's calls with Nathaniel, Karen, and Jack? It's just appalling to be intrusive with them. Note: they hired this guy just last week.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

Aha! I think I've figured this out. This whole day of defense case should be put up against the testimony of Karen Brophy (Dan's mom, Day 4 and 5?). Karen said they saw less and less of Nancy after Dan's death. (It looked to me like that from the phone records, too, but I'm sure this will be spun a different way.) I guess defense is trying to make Karen and Jack out to be liars. This is a HORRENDOUSLY BAD idea. Karen is one of the most emotional witnesses to listen to. Her answers are well-considered and careful. Everyone will recognize her as a lovely person. Trying to impugn her credibility is just..... At any rate, look at Day 4 Afternoon. This is spellbinding.

@tabbyrose73

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. You do know they can trace a person's whereabouts via phone signals. And since she LIED to the police about where she was, and was caught on CCTV driving past the murder scene when she claimed she was home, it's a BIG DEAL. LOCK HER UP.

@catherinearmstrong388

2 жыл бұрын

Smoke and mirrors…

@rsantella8008

2 жыл бұрын

Defense dragging this out because they got nothin'. And they're putting on a weak case, IMO.

Nancy gifted Susan a car in return for 2 months work? Prolly to cover up for her.

@willowv1220

2 жыл бұрын

Since she was the only one doing it… don’t know what the landscapers did ….

@willowv1220

2 жыл бұрын

@@NLHester lol.. yes, well according to the niece she was the only one….

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

This is a stunning amount IMO. And Susan wasn’t the only one. Dan’s family was helping, the other writers, the landscapers… Susan did none of the packing or moving boxes. I don’t know anyone in the landscaping business or house cleaning who would make enough to buy a car in two months. IMO Susan got a car for bringing Nancy a Starbucks in bed every morning.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

Operative words there…”according to the niece.” Everything is smoke and mirrors.

@cadencechrome4783

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleuththewild the car sure buys Nancy a gullible and loyal supporter.

I get what the defense is doing, but what do they say to the fact that she was seen on camera?

@GH-oi2jf

2 жыл бұрын

They can only explain that through the testimony of Nancy Brophy herself. We will see soon how she will try to explain it.

@myadhdlife4869

2 жыл бұрын

@@GH-oi2jf Is she expected to testify?

@GH-oi2jf

2 жыл бұрын

@@myadhdlife4869 - It has been reported that she intends to testify, but it isn’t certain until she actually takes the stand. I expect the prosecution will have tough questions ready for cross. If she does testify, but never discusses the video which seems to show her in the area at the right time, I’m not sure if they can ask her about it. They certainly can talk about it in closing arguments, though. If defense has offered no explanation for her whereabouts on that morning, the proscutor will have a field day. Why can’t she plausibly account for her presence in the area?

Who's betting that prosecution used the day off (Friday) to execute a search warrant on the stuff in the niece's basement? And finished arrangements for Nancy's ex-bunkie to testify in the rebuttal?

Poor Oscar. He has a hard enough life already without being painted as a murderer. He may not be a stand up person and he may have problems with the law (and apparently especially with the police) but he doesn't deserve this.

45:30 - 45:50 startled

This comment has nothing to do with the case and it is coming from a european. Who TF does Not make sure they have the ability to make coffee when needed; relies on a coffee chain? We are talking about a society of laziness and convenience here. It is hard pressed to talk of the US as a 'society' though these days. Even the idea of 'community' uttered by Americans sounds laughable. When 'socialisme' is a hellhole trap in your opinion, don't speak of 'togetherness'. Every man/woman for her/him-self and if possible revert back to the 'Wild, wild West' and glorify the use of guns.. No other international super-power need concern about the US; y'all imploding as is; the world sees it.

@PinkyakaAyannaj

27 күн бұрын

One year later your observation is even more true 😢

@alswedgin9274

27 күн бұрын

A sad state of affairs.

Did anyone else notice that it was pretty obvious Susan rarely talked to Nancy in the months before Dan's death? Does that mean Susan just suddenly showed up? Is there any evidence Susan actually came to Oregon when she said she did? Overstreet doesn't seem to think the "friends and family" memorial happened.

@barbaragrove6097

2 жыл бұрын

Her testimony that she cleaned the whole yard up doesn't match the landscaper's testimony.

She never said time she would arrive such flaws

???