The detailing and separation in Yamaha sounds so good.

It's great that you started doing this. Despite all the pitfalls of different space, gear, mics, algorithms etc. the NAD sounds more controlled, tighter and cleaner with bass, but at the same time considerably thinner. I hope that's roughly how they both sound over there. A few objections if I may. First male voice is not a raspy voice. That's almost as mellow and clean as it gets. Louis Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, Bryan Adams, Leslie West of Mountain, Graham Bonnet of Rainbow and solo, Dan McCafferty of Nazareth, Brian Johnson of ACDC, Richie Kotzen, George Thorogood, John Campbell, Johnny Winter, Troy Redfern, Eric Sardinas. Also you should have left Track 3 at the end, when full band's playing, to also be played by the NAD. A little longer, wouldn't hurt either. Yamaha sounds louder. Not sure, may be just me.

I run that NAD with some Klipsch RP-400Ms, which are fairly bright and smiley, so the combo works out pretty good. I bet the Yamaha would sound slightly harsher with those speakers. I rarely use the bass boost feature, only on some tracks that seem to be lacking.

@mateojarquin

3 жыл бұрын

I’m thinking of pairing my rp-500m with that NAD! Would love to hear more of your impressions with the 400m pairing

I have not listened to this with headphones, just played it on my speakers. Some tracks seem to only have a change of picture of amp but there is a difference in track 3 and 5, almost an illusion that it goes from mono to stereo.

Great video! Thanks! With the KEFs I prefer the NAD. Much more balanced and refined than the Yamaha which is a bit bright and shouty. I have the NAD (temporarily) with some old Wharfedales and the result is kinda dark and boring. So you were right in your review, the NAD needs a neutral/bright speaker to shine. And I can imagine the Yamaha doing great with some warmish speakers. Anyone tried the NAD with Fyne Audio?

@WXSTANG

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing... the KEFS are the wrong speaker for the Yamaha as they are both brighter.

Again I opened and listened to this test. The NAD sounds more musical and the passages are more controlled. The brighter crispy souds from Yamaha is for those who like this character. But... when the listening fatigue sets in, I rather expect it from the Yamaha. I prefer the more musical and detailed NAD.

Yamaha sounded wider with a more forward presentation with a slight lean towards heavier mid bass/bass and airy highs. I preferred female vocals on the Yamaha and with the strings I sort of preferred the NAD as it was a bit tighter and more controlled in the midbass/bass area. That's what I picked out anyway! Listening on iFi Zen Dac/Amp with Meze 99 Noir. Rankings for me: Track 1 - Neither was a favorite Track 2 - Yamaha Track 3 - Yamaha Track 4 - Lean towards NAD Track 5 - Yamaha

Would like to hear the Yamaha vs the SMSL DA-9 with the same Denefrips DAC, or something along those lines.

i was having a hard time hearing the differences when you changed over until i heard it at this change 5:13. wow

How it compares to bluesound powernode 2i? Can you also compare to denon 600ne which i have today?

Nad sounds slightly better to my ears,but yamaha is a real "swiss knife" amp for a small to medium room. I am looking forward for a mkii version,with a better dac chip and the latest bluetooth version.The wxc-50,which is the preamp-player (variable or fixed output) version,is more flexible,because you can combine it with a pair of active speakers.I am also looking forward for a mkii version.

NAD D3020 V2 has only bluetooth connectivity! But Yamaha WXA-50 is Wi-FI streamer with 24 bit DAC! It s a very different amplifiers to compare it!

Nice to see another piece of gear I own on your channel... Will you be doing a separate review on the WXA-50 and MusicCast also?

@iiWiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, full review is probably coming next weekend... I was planing to do it first but didn't have enough time to film this week.

Great test. Yamaha sounds more open and more transparent and more live.

I have the NAD arriving in the mail today along with KEF Q150's. I also have a Rega RP1 Performance Pack and Fono Mini preamp. I bought the NAD on the back of great reviews from Whathifi and Stereophile. They will be used in a small, slightly over 100 square foot room, with the KEF's on speaker stands six feet apart, possibly with an inexpensive Klipsch sub. I will be interested to see how they sound. I'm slightly regretting not getting the Yamaha instead because I already have a phono preamp, and I'd like to stream through wifi and not bluetooth, although I do prefer a warmer sound. We'll see if I keep or return!

@tiadanama1998

2 жыл бұрын

So did you return it or you keep it?

@kennethstamper2999

Жыл бұрын

@@tiadanama1998 I returned it and bought a refurbished NAD C326BEE instead and got a simple google audio streaming puck.

@savvas0711

Жыл бұрын

​@@kennethstamper2999 why did you return it ?

What Input is used on both of these amps? (Edit: Nevermind, probably AUX) Since BD movies now may have DTS HD MA which is a lossless audio, i decided to invest so I purchased NAD d3020 v2 and paired it with Elacs DBR62. Source is PC over Optical SPDIF and AUX. The kicker for me was that AUX from internal PC soundcard sounds much better than external DAC over SPDIF in d3020... PC just have Realtek ALC1220d, while mobo manufacturer used Nichicon caps for audio, but still nothing fancy. Bottomline for me is that internal DAC in d3020 sound much more flatter compared to PC soundcard, in similar manner to this video.

Which could be a compact cd player to pair with?

Wow, in track 4, I can clearly hear the difference... my choice is made.

@demolitionman26

2 жыл бұрын

so true lol

Could you please review the HAA FEE HA11 DAC/Amp?.It has an output power of 1000mW@32 ohms,dual ES9038EQ DAC chips,4.4mm balanced output and costs just $200.

Liked the Yamaha sound better than NAD's. When I was deciding, I compared it also with BlueSound Powernode 2i - bought the Yamaha because of a more dynamic sound, although Powernode has a bit more features and BlueOS is a better software controller than MusicCast. In your opinion and experience, do you think LS50s are the best combo with the WXA-50, or you can think of a better speaker match? Thanks Vlada

@iiWiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's very dynamic and lively sounding, I was pleasantly surprised and preferred it to NAD. Regarding LS50, it controls them quite good and level of details is great, but the sound is a bit on the dry side when direct sound mode is used. That said, when I use MusicCast DSP and Enhancer is enabled (whatever that is), sound becomes just a bit juicier and fuller, and that sounds really good with LS50s to my ears. But if you're a purist and don't want to use DSP, I would ideally go for a little darker and less forward speakers, for example Q350 would match better tonally in my opinion.

@vladimirjovanovic2803

3 жыл бұрын

@@iiWiReviews Thanks man, this is really helpful! I hear differences with Enhancer on/off, but with my speakers (Canton Chrono 502.2s), differences are pretty subtle. I will try to get my hands on a pair of used LS50s, to try them out

Sound on the NAD is more coherent and the mids, particularly voices, sound more natural. The highs on the Yahama sound detached from the rest of the spectrum. I own the NAD, which I use for a second system. It is hard to beat for anywhere near its price.

@brianperez9406

Жыл бұрын

Yama sounds tinney in the highs. I hear more depth with Nad.

NAD is a more controlled amp when you give more power. I prefer that. And this amp needs a pair of bright soundly speakers.

Listening on Sennheiser 650's. I'm finding the NAD a bit thin and recessed and lacking body. The Yamaha is warmer and more engaging but has an airy colouring. Both have good detail but doing it differently. It's like listening to something a bit weak and something trying a bit too hard. ATM I'm tossing up between the two and I'm now leaning more towards the Yamaha because of the bass, maybe I'll listen to it all again! Taste is subjective. Thanks for posting!

Yamaha is also steamer, NAD had phono input?

Yamaha are one of the few brands not obsessed with bright treble only.....'natural sound' plays the bass mid treble in a smooth,full,analogue, 3 dimensionality.

Both sound pretty natural. Combine the excellent bass and mids of the NAD with the treble of the Yamaha (which gives the illusion of more space) and that would be the 'complete' amp. (Does this NAD have tone controls that might accomplish something similar? I know the higher models have bass and treble controls.)

@iiWiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

NAD has only bass boost, it's subtle and not adjustable in any way, gives just a bit more oomph. Yamaha has tone and DSP controls inside its streamer section (but not for other inputs).

thanks for the videos , please which one is better T2 or Xiaomi hybrid pro hd , also can u make a video about sound layers so much ppl dt kwo what is treble or mid , thanks.

@iiWiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Tin audio T2 is better. Cheers!

@soufianehmimssa6644

3 жыл бұрын

@@iiWiReviews thanks

how to change bass and trebble ?

Thanks man. This shows that everything sounds different

How would these compair to a denon ceol n10 or n11 soundquality wise?

@RP-ms7lu

Жыл бұрын

Denon n10 also sound clean and nice

About to receive the Yamaha..crossing fingers

The Yamaha sounds airier and more open. More crisp less muted.

@JUWAT

2 жыл бұрын

True. Thank you. I think that the Yamaha needs a bit more warmy sounded speakers. Cause it is to crispy for me. The NAD is more controlled one and a better bass.

was the yamaha in direct mode in this comparison?

@iiWiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yes because in this comparison my own DAC was used... So DSP can't even be engaged in this case.

@mykeldg

3 жыл бұрын

@@iiWiReviews thanks! Preferred the Nad despite sounding slightly inferior to the Yamahas overall. Mids and tone are indeed sweeter and but slightly compressed and closed in on the nad but maybe more euphonic.

yamaha all the way!!sound cleaner punchier and more dynamic.

@JUWAT

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe punchier but not clean enough like NAD.

Close your eyes and try to find out, when the amp switches in the video. ;)

Sounds like the Yamaha has the Sound Retriever on.

I could with both

I listen both NAD and Yamaha in a music store but NAD sound more warmer than Yamaha. If you listen EDM, Deep house, Nu Disco than you will like NAD

@eddy.alexandru

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

I've had many Nad and they always have a flat soundstage,not much 3d depth

Yamaha sounds cleaner ..

Yamaha is trying to make good first impression:) I don't know if I could listen to it for more than 15 min.

I think the Argon SA1 is the better opinion to the NAD and the Yamaha.

Yamaha sounds better, fuller and with more clarity. The NAD sounds flatter, thinner, and more veiled

i prefer nad it sound lively

Здравствуйте.Можете мне помочь с выбором!?Думаю взять либо Денон 600ne,либо YAMAHA WXA-50.Не могу определиться с выбором.Цена между ними не велика.Покупаю для музыки ТВ lg+ цап+ колонки ЭДИФАЕР 2850.До этого покупал цап Китайский МКlll,сдал обратно звук не сильно то и поменялся,просто лёгкая воздушность появилась.Но, смотря и слушая видео концерта некоторые инструменты не слышны,хотя по видео он там играл сидел.В живую я не слышал как они звучат.Выбираю из этих так как есть цапы и подключение то что у обоих есть винтовое. И в продаже у нас есть, думаю взять на будущее если вдруг решусь заменить колонки свои на другие.Вот и смотрю смотрю ролики информацию читаю и не могу определиться что лучше взять.По комментариям каждый нахваливает и то и то.А на чём мне лучше остановиться не могу понять.С таким выбором впервые сталкиваюсь.Помогите определиться что лучше!?

Yamaha medium frekans best vocals.. thanks..

yamaha wins, great video

I listen it with use my Yamaha Piano 400 + Yamaha ns-777 :)))) . And i hear that a Nad more enjoyable, Yamaha have dried sound. My Yamaha400 more best :)

Yamaha sounds more energetic and airy.

Yamaha !

Yamaha sounds less natural, less true, but better as I like airy sound.

NAD sounds more full across all frequencies with more warmth. Yamaha sounds more flat

Yamaha sounds wider and more open

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Sound same same won’t complain with either. Might go with Yamaha.

@midiman2496

3 жыл бұрын

I can absolutely recommend it 🙂

No contest .. Yamaha wins!

yamaha sound is wide than nad

Yamaha far more open.

Yamaha..1

NAD sounds superb. Yamaha only vocals. Guitar strings sounds very nice in NAD

Yamaha is just playing louder.

@iiWiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

It's a funny thing actually, they're volume matched with 1 kHz tone... and I double-checked because with music Yamaha did sound slightly louder with some tracks or at least more forward to my ears. But the test tone was showing the same volume level so I supposed that the perceived difference in loudness is due to different handling of dynamics, transients, etc. In reality, Yamaha does sound punchier and more dynamic to my ears while NAD is more restrained. It seems that restraint comes out as a slightly lower volume through the recording. This begs the question - can we really fully volume match components using just a single tone. It seems not because music is not made of a single flat tone.

@yogiwp_

3 жыл бұрын

@@iiWiReviews Hmm usually I volume match using pink noise.

@iiWiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. I'll try using it next time, but don't think it would make a difference in this case.

@noob_strikes0011

3 жыл бұрын

@@iiWiReviews yamaha sounds fatiguing to my ears ..nad better

@GlassActivist

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, noise matching is better. Single tone matching makes no sense. We don't listen to 1 tone when we listen to music.

Yamaha

Listening to this on a pair of LS50W set to highest res on a macbook air. Track 3: very noticeable difference in the female focal. NAD D3020 sounds like she's singing in a sound treated room with lil reverb "airy". Yamaha WXA-50 sounds more "airy" and bigger for her vocals. It's pretty noticeable. Imagine a hall reverb from 1-100. NAD would be at 10 while the Yamaha is at 50. This is not just true for the vocals but also for the bassy beat track 5. Beats on the Yamaha was just more airy and open. With that airiness, you can feel the focus of the beats and the punchiness comes through. The NAD sounds clear but without that openness with the beats sounding compressed and closer together in both dynamics and perceived space. Conclusion: Yamaha sounds airy and "sweeter" than the NAD and is the clear winner imo.

Zvuče ko kante oba...

Speaking openly, Yamaha is definitely not for me to listen to music for a long time. It is to sharp.

Nad! yamaha sounds like my sony microsystem👎