when Dave Ramsey said couples should talk about religion before getting married, I didnt think it would matter that much, now I know.

@susanmarie2231

3 жыл бұрын

Religion is a very important discussion prior to marriage but that doesn’t mean somebody won’t jump ship and go to a different form of religion during the marriage.

@jjgems5909

3 жыл бұрын

The Bible actually tells us not to be Unequally yoked. A yoke is a bar that joined to oxen together to pull and till the soil. If one of the oxen is weak it will bring the other down with it and slow it down significantly. It’s so so important. Even non Christians know this is true, that’s why arranged marriages are still practiced in many cultures and religions. It’s to ensure that you have the same values and morals and principles and that you agree with raise your children the same way.

@Nonameagain80

3 жыл бұрын

@@jjgems5909 however, that is for when choosing a partner. If you later become Christian, you do not leave.

@hjsimpson

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how someone would think discussing values and how to raise children wouldn't matter that much lol

@susanmarie2231

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpalumbo4880 Ouch.

Run for the hills dude! I was raised in this cult for 20 years. Haven't looked back since I got out!

@troyspears6470

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you got out! I finally got out of a evangelical christian schools after 8th grade! Absolutely a cult too, sad people fall for that stuff. Ive never meet a group or more racist, closed minded, and mean people in my life.

@MSV667

3 жыл бұрын

I was raised in it as well. By 13 I realised everyone around me was brain washed and in a cult. Use to sit in the car at conventions. Thankfully as an adult, after much work, I managed to get my Mom, Brother and Grandpa out. My Father unfortunately died due to the blood rule being imposed on him by a Family member while in a coma out of State. Away from the more sane family members.

@bigherm70068

3 жыл бұрын

Got out myself

@geniesandoval8821

3 жыл бұрын

Agree run

@HitmanChase

3 жыл бұрын

Cult is the very best way to describe it. Lol

This poor guy needs a good lawyer. He doesn't need to respect her religion as the JW will have NO respect for his. Its a cult, its abusive.

@Transfixion

3 жыл бұрын

Wah wah wah here we go with the cult stuff again

@TeKnoVKNG23

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure about the cult thing, but I've had two friends join that religion over my life time and both changed completely who they were in a matter of months. No longer friends unfortunately.

@Transfixion

3 жыл бұрын

I find it so hilarious when people call JW's a cult. A a cult with 8 million members in 100 different countries? Right... Absolutely no one knows the definition of that word anymore they just throw it out and people eat it up. The real question isn't Why do Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowship people, it's Why don't other Christians denominations disfellowship people?

@hollym1751

3 жыл бұрын

@@Transfixion I thought what makes a cult a cult was the idea that YOUR way is the only way to heaven. I mean............

@Transfixion

3 жыл бұрын

@@hollym1751 God is not a God of confusion. 1 Corinthians 14:33. You really think he accepts 5000 different religions worshipping him 5000 different ways now when he had an exclusive covenant with the nation of Israel and was very specific on how they were to approach and worship him? Meanwhile all the different religions are at each other's throats and fighting constantly. CONFUSION. I would hope you also believe your religion is the right one.

Dr. John. That was a very rough call. I think the best advice that you gave him was to seek a marriage counselor now! A house divided cannot stand.

@erikaletty

3 жыл бұрын

He gave excellent advice but Jehovah’s Witnesses urge strongly against going to therapist, counselors etc so chances are the wife will not agree . This is a cult not a religion .

@erikaletty

3 жыл бұрын

@Miguel Ângelo יְהֹוָה actually I do know because I was raised in this religion and suffered from emotional problems as a teen and my parents refused to get me professional help they didn’t even do the jw thing and at least take the issue to the elders but instead kept it a secret from everyone. My older sister was in therapy for a couple sessions but as soon as the therapist mentioned to my parents that they needed to allow her to socialize with others outside of the Kingdom Hall they pulled her out of the therapy. It’s true there are jws that seek professional help but it is strongly discouraged in the jw culture . The reason your being so defensive is because you know this is true.

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

@Miguel Ângelo יְהֹוָה Those of us who grew up in the cult know exactly what we are talking about. You have no right to impose your views on others

Our neighbors went through exactly the same issue at about the same ages with their 2 kids. Mom became JW. Dad threw the birthday parties, Halloween costumes and trick or treating, Christmas presents….. Mom didn’t raise the kids JW. It’s 25 years later, they’re still together and are happy grandparents, and she’s still a JW. There’s hope.

@sobeliever1638

2 жыл бұрын

It worked out that way bc mom did not buy in 100%.

That blood transfusions thing was heavy.

@lilo2469

3 жыл бұрын

Blood watches , pedifiles etc , and when given the word when kicked out of JW YOU are Shunned !

@arontesfay2520

3 жыл бұрын

I actually know somebody that had a good friend long time ago who died of leakemia because he was a JW and didn't consent to a blood transfusion that could have saved his life. This was actually a really smart person who attended one of the most prestigious universities in the US

@carolineosterman2420

3 жыл бұрын

I had a friend in HS who's mom refused a blood transfusion (JW). She died days later at the age of 47 leaving my friend an absolute mess.

@lenaheart8103

2 жыл бұрын

So very sad 😞

@isay207

Жыл бұрын

JW are very obnoxious

There’s a reason why scripture says “do not be unequally yoked”.

@jdstep97

3 жыл бұрын

Cesar - Especially when one of those yolks is in a high-control group or cult.

@lexieoverman7341

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, yep, yep!!

My ex threw my first birthday party when I turned 70. It was great.

The issue seems her mom should stay out of this...I think that's a big issue here

@naufrage0

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not just going to be his mom now. There will be a group of “Elders” and their wives and everyone else getting involved in his family matter now.

@lilymohsye

3 жыл бұрын

The mom feels compelled to get involved because she feels as a Jehovah’s Witness that she would be saving them from dying at Armageddon. JWs believe Armageddon is just around the corner supported by the fact that Covid-19 is a sign that pestilence has befallen earth. It’s not simply that she is a meddling mom. She feels she is saving their lives for eternity.

@erikaletty

3 жыл бұрын

@@lilymohsye yeah the wife needs to wake up from the jw beliefs or she will always be easily persuaded by jw family into going back

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

@Miguel Ângelo יְהֹוָה You know that's a lie.

@aphillyate1

3 ай бұрын

Her mother is THE PROBLEM. And mother most likely blackmailed her to return because she misses her family.

Totally feel for this guy because I know exactly what’s going on here. I was raised a JW since birth left at 18 but held onto the beliefs until I was 34 . The problem is this is not a religion but it’s a cult. There is no negotiating with these ppl it’s their way or no way. They are taught if they have an “unbelieving spouse” that they have to still teach their kids in order for them to be saved at Armegeddon which is what’s happening here. The guys wife is being guilt tripped and pressured by her mother she is being told if you do not return to the “religion” you and your kids will die at Armageddon. They use any catastrophe to say the end is near they have been using this scare tactic since the group started in the late 1800s. Also the JW faith does not believe in and strongly urges against seeing therapist , counselors etc so this guys wife is most likely not going to see a marriage counselor . She will want to involve congregation elders instead and that’s a bad bad idea.

@JSM.

Жыл бұрын

You were never a jw not with what you say they do, such a liar lol.

@BG-nm5xt

Жыл бұрын

Totally right, this situation is not going to be workable and very unhappy. No birthdays, no holidays, everyone else is doomed, a sinner going to hell and church 3 x a week for many very long hours!

@tigana

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been to many JW meetings out of curiosity and they explicitly encouraged counselling and mental health care. I can’t say what every kingdom hall is like but nobody was against counselling

@diannemcauley8495

2 ай бұрын

In the past I have been a practicing Jehovah’s Witness for 14 years. I probably believed for another 15 years. It’s only been in the last 5 years that I have found out the truth. This a dangerous cult which I now know has a serious problem concerning child sex abuse and the cover up of the abuse. I know in the past mental health therapy and counselling was strongly discouraged. This may have changed over the years. If this wife is determined on his path I see no hope for a happy marriage. The wife will be cautioned to never do research on the organization and therefore will likely never know the truth about them. I wasted many years of my life in that so called “religion” and I would never, ever go back. If she refuses to do her due diligence and research this cult in depth then I’m sorry to say this marriage will be an unhappy and unsuccessful one. I feel for this man. He has been duped and he will have to face a very hard choice.

People change. This is a significant change. A marriage requires negotiation through that change. Even if we marry someone of the same faith, someone could still change within that dynamic.

Take your kids and run...this isn’t like the difference between Baptist and catholic. There are A LOT of you tube channels and blogs about how harmful this religion. My guess is that her family is going to convince her to leave you if you don’t convert.

@michaelhutchings6602

3 жыл бұрын

@cH Pinki Atheist regimes in the 20th century killed more people than all religious wars combined.

@rithvikmuthyalapati9754

3 жыл бұрын

@cH Pinki Nope. There are people who would have never recovered in life without the words of God. There are things people could not have done without religion.

@aimercab8630

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯

@mitchmiller2382

2 жыл бұрын

@Bethany Browne. Your sentiments are admirable, but for the Christian, leaving the marriage is not an option, except in the cases of immorality or abandonment by the non-Christian (1 Corinthians 7). God can protect the children. My siblings and I are proof of that (we're all in our fifties and sixties and have never embraced the Watchtower). We are all strong Christians due to our Dad's strong example and his unceasing prayer on our behalf.

@Mombal5

4 ай бұрын

They are strongly against divorce under pretty much any circumstance. I feel so bad for this man. It’s just a bad situation to be in.

John, I have the same problem with always running late. I finally figured out that a big part of my problem is that I have a terrible sense of how quickly time passes in my head. I will look at the clock and think, oh I have half an hour so I'll fold some laundry before I head out, or empty the dishwasher, or whatever else needs to be done. Next thing I know, it is 45 or 60 minutes later. I have found that it helps if I set my phone alarm 15 minutes before I want to leave and then again 5 minutes before I want to leave. It may seem excessive but it really helps me with focus if I need to get somewhere on time.

You think you're only married to 1 person, truth is, you'll feel like you're married to over 8 million people.!

Unfortunately, it is a cult. And once you get indoctrinated it takes an act of God to wake up. What he can do is ask her some thinking questions. It's not too late. Dude get in touch with me I can help. I grew up in it and woke up. All he has to do is sit down with her and watch some KZread channels. I recommend Watchtower Examination. But there are many. I wish I could talk with him.

@lilymohsye

3 жыл бұрын

The Lloyd Evans Channel

@erikaletty

3 жыл бұрын

@Born again believer yes this is a great channel

@stopcensorship7365

3 жыл бұрын

@Miguel Ângelo יְהֹוָה no one who is in a cult thinks they are. If the entire world views you as a cult you need to try and figure out why they say that about you.

@terminaldreams8049

3 жыл бұрын

@@stopcensorship7365 read John 15: 18-27 with your comment in mind. I'm not a jw

@stopcensorship7365

3 жыл бұрын

@@terminaldreams8049 what is your point

Sounds like this dude needs a really good lawyer.

@calebmallen

3 жыл бұрын

He's in California, which means he's gotta make a decision quickly, because at that 10 year mark, if they end up getting divorced, he'll be paying her alimony for the rest of her life 🙄

@truth.speaker

3 жыл бұрын

Why? She's not leaving. If he loves her for her, her faith isn't the important thing. She loves him. She also has her own faith. What's the big deal?

@eyeswideopen8570

3 жыл бұрын

@@truth.speaker JW's are a high control group. There is no middle ground. If she loves the religion more than her husband, it's going to be a huge problem.

@truth.speaker

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpalumbo4880 do you really believe that?

@truth.speaker

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpalumbo4880 what if she just believes something different 🤷🏻‍♂️ it's not his problem if he doesn't want her faith There are definitely worse things out there

How confusing for the kids - Mom believes one way, Dad believes another way.

Feel bad for the children they're the ones caught in between. They may be resilient but will still be torn between either parent. Ugh.

I grew up in a house that was right next to a JW church. We always seemed to be the first stop on their missionary outtings. My father was a finatical Mormon. Needless to say the conversations had by them trying to convert one another over the years were at first a bit frightening and later oddly entertaining.

@elizabethtimothy4776

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂 I can just picture all their encounter over the years.

@chicken8471

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god I grew up mormon and I could only imagine

@Jaytee1765

2 жыл бұрын

I would have paid to watch that

@stolen3moon

2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to have some popcorn with that

My heart goes out to this father. I pray the children do not suffer whatever the outcome. Jehovah’s Witnesses may not believe in marital counseling from an outside source but I’m not sure.

@marycarricaburu3683

3 жыл бұрын

I think you may be right. I see a heavy time for this family. Many years ago I was a JW and I know.

@Angel-rs3ve

3 жыл бұрын

Marriage counseling is not out of the picture that’s a personal conscience matter. The Bible is the ultimate source, the best counsel there is. That’s where people who don’t trust the Bible that much will have issues.

@meditationstation2000

3 жыл бұрын

Yea...this is one of those JW riddle passive aggressive lies...they SAY its up to you, but then strongly imply that it's bad. If you're a JW bad means God's going to kill you at any moment. So they never explicitly say this stuff, but the message is clear. I just hate that some JWs get online and spread the technical answers when they know the truth. The biggest problem with JWs is that they teach people how to lie and manipulate in the name of "God's organization", which is them. All non witnesses will be killed at any moment according to their beliefs, so they don't value anyone but themselves.

@naufrage0

3 жыл бұрын

@@meditationstation2000 Exactly this

@TheAgentmigs

3 жыл бұрын

They keep everythin within their own counsel.

John ais like a breath of fresh air . He always provides great solutions. When he said marriage counseling i was like yes thank you .

This is a marriage doomed to fail sadly

My dad is JW. Me and my mom are both Catholic. I grew up in a loving and supportive family. I turned out perfectly fine.

I wont judge all Jehovah's Witnesses, but based on personal experience they are very challenging to deal with if you disagree with them at all.

@isay207

Жыл бұрын

They harass people it should be illegal

My 6 year relationship ended because he suddenly decided to revert to Islam. He never mentioned it even once during our relationship and then overnight my whole world flipped upside down.

@elizabethtimothy4776

3 жыл бұрын

Most Muslim men if not all will convert their wives eventually, they hardly bring it up during the relationship knowing it will scare the partner off but once marriage is secured especially with children, then the conversion starts. Also it is easily permissive of muslim men to marry outside of their fan than women. It is better for people to be equally yoke before getting married.

I feel bad for this guy. He has to get to an agreement about raising the kids. But 100% I think he feels betrayed by someone who he has known 10 years. All holidays are on the table for negotiation. I think JW recognize weddings but no holidays or birthdays.

@npp1315

3 жыл бұрын

All so called "holidays" are not biblical but are pagan. The JW are right on this point.

@neverdowifeydutiesatgirlfriend

3 жыл бұрын

They don't believe in blood transfusions

@marycarricaburu3683

3 жыл бұрын

For JW's there is no negotiation on anything. I was one for 30 years and I know. I am not now.

@unicorndnaranja5865

3 жыл бұрын

@Npp - Since paganism predates Christianity, everything has pagan origins. Even wedding rings and wedding veils are pagan. The only reason the JWs use those thought-stopping one liners about this or that being pagan is brainwashing, control, and undue influence.

@erikaletty

3 жыл бұрын

@@marycarricaburu3683 yep it’s their way or no way

John from San Francisco...I recommend finding those that have been in same shoes as you with this specific organized mafia. There are many men and couples online who have survived this scenario and could probably give some great pointers and experience. The thing about this mafia is that like any mafia, people are NOT permitted to leave without their family ties being threatened.

I can't believe the wife would not step up and explain to her kids why her husband, their dad doesn't pray to Jehovah. Is she trying to build a wedge between her family. She knew he wasn't a JW. Why is he being seen as a second class citizen within his own house

@Cyanopteryx

3 жыл бұрын

Because JWs literally encourage "shunning" apostates or non-believers. It's practically required to make others, immediate family included, feel like garbage for not confirming.

@murderofcrows7738

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like she’s preparing to leave. She’s disrespecting her partner, and preparing to alienate the kids from him. Maybe they can save their marriage, but he needs to be on guard and pay close attention to how hard SHE is trying to save things.

@nmc1859

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Parental alienation hiding behind a sudden religion change. Shame on her.

@nmc1859

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cyanopteryx even when they barely know you as an acquaintance, they will try and shame you for not believing their nonsense. Ask me how I know...

@marycarricaburu3683

3 жыл бұрын

@@nmc1859 I thought the same thing. He needs to see an attorney now. Sounds like she is going back out of fear and that level of fear makes people crazy. The Bible says, "No man knows the day or the hour". So if you think it is going to be real soon , it isn't. I used to be a JW and I saw this same hysteria in 1974.

Dr Deloney does a fabulous job navigating this very tricky, sensitive issue in a way that doesn’t offend anyone’s sensibilities. He also articulates how an everyday moment of aggravation can be translated to a moment of learning for the children who are bystanders. I find myself applying little things from these videos into my every day life, as a proud father of a 2 year old little girl. I really like this guy…in fact, I might love the man! Some of the people in the comment section should take a second and examine whether or not their words are antithetical to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

omg, I'm so sorry for you. Your world could fall apart. I left at 18 and my family broke apart over 30 years ago. When I got DF elders came to my Dad and told him I had to go. And I was gone in two days

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they will throw you, no matter if you are their child, away in an instant.

Shes guilty about something. She needs therapy. The only reason she wants to go back is because guilt keeps her from feeling like shes worthy of being valued by God. Ask me how I know...

Yr life is about to turn into a rollercoaster ride!

I like that! Discuss non-negotiable! I’m going to try that!

As a person who grew up in that religion i weep for his children..

Yeah, that's going to be a big problem. My mom is JW I'm Christian, had to cut her off because she would constantly mention my erroneous faith and how wrong I am about Jesus deity. Time and again I asked her not too mention my believes or that our relationship would suffer, she responded by saying "You're an adult I can't tell you who to believe in" That was so crazy to hear. You can't dictate someone's faith that is personal between you and the creator. I told her sorry but I love Jesus more than you!

@JR-wu8gf

2 жыл бұрын

Terrible Jesus might be a fairy tale Your mother is real and loves you

@warrioroflight3813

2 жыл бұрын

​@@JR-wu8gf That's an ignorant thing to say, all scholars including atheist acknowledge JESUS is a historical figure. He is very real and he LOVES me more than my mother that's 100% truth!

@JR-wu8gf

2 жыл бұрын

@@warrioroflight3813 let me rephrase Jesus’s powers and abilities are more than likely a fairy tale. Your mother is very much real

@warrioroflight3813

2 жыл бұрын

​@@JR-wu8gf It's called faith and I have it, you don't. Don't worry about me, focus on you 'BOO' Merry Christmas :)

@JR-wu8gf

2 жыл бұрын

@@warrioroflight3813 exactly look up the word faith and you’ll see how foolish you sound. You believe in Jesus and she believes in jehovah Same thing Both are man made legends that are rooted in FAITH not FACT

Goodbye to Birthday parties, Christmas parties and blood donations:)

@jein7079

3 жыл бұрын

Blood donations? Blood transfusions you mean their life is in danger

@lks6248

3 жыл бұрын

Only if he lets her get her way.

@levibond2555

3 жыл бұрын

That's right, I have never heard of a Jehovah's Witness compromising.

@Transfixion

3 жыл бұрын

Thank God for that. None of those practices are biblical

@thomasgrice8864

3 жыл бұрын

Easter, Halloween...

Her beliefs dosen't cancel your beliefs. Continue celebrating those that is important to you with your kids.

@marycarricaburu3683

3 жыл бұрын

I think what will be hard for him is to do those celebrations by himself. Men usually don't plan Birthday parties and holiday events. Well, if it is important to him he will learn to. There are a lot of single dads who have learned.

@amyclark959

3 жыл бұрын

It gets deeper than that. There are things like not believing in blood transfusions that could effect someone's life, including their children.

I'm so glad he's standing on his beliefs! Right is right wrong is wrong no matter if it's your spouse or not. I feel so bad for him and the children. My God!

@kencurtis2403

3 жыл бұрын

But you’re not glad his wife is standing on her beliefs? She believes she is doing right by the children also.

@Songbird36able

3 жыл бұрын

@@kencurtis2403 But she's not.

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

@@kencurtis2403 His wife is brainwashed and will betray him AND her own children at the drop of a hat if that organization says so. There is nothing to respect there.

That's a rough call. Especially that they had their religious beliefs aligned at the start of their marriage and now she has gone in a different direction. A House divided cannot stand so this unfortunately may end in the separation.

I know a couple who’s wife is Jehovah witness the husband is not and her religion doesn’t effect them. They have five kids all grown up. They have get togethers just don’t celebrate birthdays etc. The husband still buys his wife jewellery and presents throughout the year nothing has changed.

Man I feel for you..she is going back because of fear but those teachings are not bible base

Hello John, I don’t know if you’ll ever see this but as one of Jehovah’s witnesses and as a full time minister (only reason for saying this is My wife and I are devout, we are not on the fence JW’s with a misconception of beliefs) I’d like you to know I am a regular listener, and as always I think you handled this very gracefully. I can’t imagine how difficult it is to draw the line on an issue like this. There is a lot of advice from our publications and in reference to the scriptures that talk about many of the issues you discussed, such as how to negotiate holidays, blood, etc. Ultimately, we should/would not judge his wife if she went to birthday parties or holidays with her husband out of just supporting him as that is her responsibility as a wife, the same goes for a husband in the same situation. She should show reasonableness in his needs/wants, etc. without being bullish about her beliefs being final, especially in the case of the kids, there should absolutely be give and take until the kids are old enough to decide rationally. That’s how this should be handled from a doctrinal standpoint per our beliefs. Also, just as a heads up, we do believe in Jesus and memorialize his death as our savior every year. Jesus did the kindest thing any man/spirit son ever could which is give his life and spitting on Jesus’ name or role in our worship would be unthinkable to any true Jehovah’s Witness. Again, I’d just like to thank you for what you do, even tho I’m sure our beliefs are different, I appreciate/respect your morals and steadfastness in your faith, if everyone in the world was more like you, Dave, Chris and the gang, we would all be better off. 👍

@jodydavis6238

3 жыл бұрын

I would have been 4th Generation JW. The religion destroyed our family. They have ZERO empathy for children and do whatever they can to split non-JW family members. I have deep emotional scars from the abuse from this church. He should FIGHT for the right to keep the children away from this cult.

@erikaletty

3 жыл бұрын

JWs do not allow and strongly urge against marriage counseling, therapist , psychiatrist etc . As a JW you know this. As a depressed child and teen I begged my jw mother to get me help and she refused and totally ignored the situation . She didn’t even do the jw way and alert the elders because then ppl would think she was a bad mom (her words not mine) . This is a cult please research

@lenaheart8103

2 жыл бұрын

Lost family members who joined the JW CULT. They disowned us all, because we are not JW. Can’t even celebrate their own birthdays. That’s literally the stupidest thing I’ve heard from my JW cousins. And when their kid needs a blood transfusion, they have to just leave them to die, because they can’t get one due to their CULT.

@AV-iw3xc

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikaletty pretty interesting because I am a ministerial servant serving where the need is great and go to therapy every week. I was actually encouraged by elders to do so. Perhaps your mom had personal beliefs but that has nothing to do with JW’s

@erikaletty

2 жыл бұрын

@@AV-iw3xc Well I know congregations differ from region to region. But in my experience in the jw culture therapy was discouraged . My sister saw a therapist for a short time as a teenager but as soon as the therapist told my parents they were damaging her mental health by not allowing her to socialize with classmates they pulled her out of therapy . I guess it’s all good and well as long as the therapist does not say anything that would encourage you to question your belief system . But the minute that ever happens I’m pretty sure you will be checking out. That being said I think you have a point my mother is and was definitely concerned about her image. She couldn’t let the congregation know she had damaged children because then that would reflect poorly on her and that could not happen . I think yes my mother is a severely mentally damaged person who needs professional help but I also do not believe her being involved in this religion has helped her change at all or grow in the 50+ years that she has been baptized .

Being raised as a JW is terrifying as a child. I was so scared of Armageddon and never seeing my family again that i had nightmares and hallucinations until i refused to go anymore when i was 10. I hope this man got legal help and therapy to protect those kids from that mental abuse.

I was in that cult, do not ruin your children future please!!!!

Sticky situation. Good advice, Doc!

I’m dating a former JW. I have learned more about that religion in the past 5 months then I ever thought I would. Basically God changes his mind and flip flops on life and death issues. Smh. Cultism at its finest.

@drchristineobrien9704

3 жыл бұрын

Key insight!😂🤗

@mitchmiller2382

2 жыл бұрын

@brent lamm jr. Make sure she verbally renounces specific key beliefs, including the ones about the 'faithful and discreet slave' (JW Governing Body). Also, she needs to renounce her baptismal vows (particularly if they substituted the 'spirit-directed organization for the Holy Spirit). Otherwise, there is more of a possibility of her returning to the organization at a later time. Also, if you're born again, she must be solidly as well.

Run!!!!!!!!

I'm lucky. When I met my wife she was disfellowshipped. We both went back but then later left.

@Disaster-piece_

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry but what do you mean by disfellowshipped? Is this a JW term??

@RoquitaJohnson

3 жыл бұрын

Yes what does that term mean?

@naufrage0

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoquitaJohnson @Bl9ck de9th G9aming oh man were to begin. First it means you’re shunned from your family and other JWs and they are not allowed to talk to you unless it involves a funeral or them trying to get you to come back. If you’re still curious look up Lloyd Evans channel or many of the other ExJW channels and find a video wher they talk about it. It’s part of the brainwashing they do.

@RoquitaJohnson

3 жыл бұрын

@@naufrage0 Ok thank you for explaining.

This call makes me so sad. I don't see these two making it, unless he converts or she gives it up.

@naufrage0

3 жыл бұрын

He shouldn’t convert to this cult. He needs to save his kids and wife from them. They’re about to steal her life away from her.

@RoquitaJohnson

3 жыл бұрын

@@naufrage0 I agree he shouldn't convert.

If your spouse is going back to JW you should be worried! My advice: stand up for your marital rights your parental rights and don't be emotionally blackmailed.

#1 Seven year period in marriage is always challenging. #2 My sister is a serious JW (65 years old) since high school. She was never serious about anything in life but JW. #3 This is just my personal opinion. Here in California, after 7 years of marriage, the spouse is vested in the husband's future earnings. #4 My sister-in-law is a devout JW and didn't believe in blood transfusions. When she needed it, she agreed to blood expanders which saved her. I feel for you. My parents did not get along with my sister for pretty much her whole life. My father only reconciled with my sister just before passing. Good luck.

My ex's mother was a JW and she forced her children to do door to door proselytizing at a very young age. The caller needs to run for the sake of his kids!

Going to be so damaging on their children. 💔Shame on her.

@truth.speaker

3 жыл бұрын

I was raised with parents who believe different things. In many countries, you get to hear different ideas and beliefs when you go to school. It's not damaging 👍🏼

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

@@truth.speaker You have No Idea what you are talking about.

@truth.speaker

Жыл бұрын

@@Edelwiess1066 why not? I live in a different country and we hear many different ideas growing up Not to sound righteous or anything, but maybe if you can't stand hearing other viewpoints, perhaps you need to be more open minded Where I'm from, you can find people from all kind of places all living on one street. It's like New York for diversity It's not harmful. At all

I'm a JW, and my jaw just dropped as this video popped up...realizing that it's already 1 year old! Been listening to John's videos for a little while now after following Dave Ramsey for some time now ...love John's videos, learning a lot and appreciate how he answered this call. 👏

@TrueSamuraiHero

8 ай бұрын

Same

I was raised as a jw, but it was so damaging to my childhood. After 11 years of being out of it, I’ve finally unbottled a lot of emotions and it’s clear to me that this “religion” is actually a cult. Tread lightly, hopefully it’ll pass

@jamiepentz4682

3 жыл бұрын

I was a born in Jw so happy I got out. Really Really not a great religion or community in my experience.

@naufrage0

3 жыл бұрын

Shame glad I got out. It’s taken 10 years to clear my mind of the brainwashing.

I’m waiting for second part

Oh the joys of religion

They usually leave to get a partner ,most of them return to their faith

Omgosh! No! Please do not let your children be exposed to this horrible cult! I was raised in it. My heart breaks for your situation, but please put your children first.

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

Same here Grace! I almost cried hearing this man's story

Ever notice how the more recently a religion's founder was alive, the more free we feel to question it? If only we'd have worked as diligently and quickly to debunk the Jehovah's Witnesses as we have Scientology.

It is the best thing that could ever happen to her, to become a Witness for the true God Jehovah, the husband will soon join her when he sees the good change in her !

Aww man this is ROUGH. This is NOT gunna end well. Get a GREAT lawyer. It drives me nuts that theres no updates on these calls!

The caller seriously needs to speak to an ExJW, Dr Delony clearly doesn’t know about the faith. He advises him that they need to celebrate holidays are they are non negotiable. That’s the biggest non negotiable for Witnesses. He also tells the caller that it’s likely that his wife will likely leave the religion. It’s typical for people that are raised as a JW to leave during their teens or early 20s and then return back after getting married and settling down. The religion is extremely difficult to follow even when you believe in it as a young single person, but it isn’t that hard to follow while in a committed relationship. She most likely always believed and will continue to practice the religion.

Yeah with good reason, hopefully she can be persuaded to avoid the nonsense.

What a tough subject to advise on. Again, in my opinion you nailed that John! Same situation as a Christian vs atheist.

2 Corinthians 6:14 “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” King James Version (KJV)

I feel so sorry for this caller. Shame on that wife and mother. I pray that she wakes up one day.

@dave9519

3 жыл бұрын

Yep totally! Thank God i'm a Christian..My good friend from high school is a JW and she regularly messages me lol

@blueseptember2174

9 ай бұрын

​@@dave9519JW are Christian as in followers of Christ.

When somone is using their own children to push their narritive onto another spouse, simply put - that person is toxic. I agree with the comments, this guy needs to consult a lawyer as a back up plan if things don't work out.

He just described my Jezebel Mom.. she drug us into the JW and became more of a witch Jezebel.

I’m so sorry

I advise you to take a look at Mentally Diseased video Spouse Convert to JWs? Sorry - Your Kids Are Doomed. As an Ex JW from a divided household this really articulates well what kids in this situation can experience. As the non-believer (non-JW), being there for your kids will be especially important as they grow to make their decision on how to live their life. I agree marriage counseling will be wonderful for you and your wife, but counseling isn't look foundly among JWs as it is worldly viewpoints and not the bibles teachings.

Oh no! Have her read age of reason by Thomas Paine ASAP

Or like hey read the book "Crisis of Conscience" by Raymond Franz. And give her solid reasons to triple check her belief system. If she's truly seeking truth and what's best for her family she might come around. 🤷‍♀️

I’d love to hear from the wife

Katie Holmes divorced Tom Cruise because of religion

@murderofcrows7738

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. And afterward he turned his back on his kid because of religion.

@ellenricks2029

3 жыл бұрын

*cult

@marisastoneobrien7834

3 жыл бұрын

Because of a cult...huge difference.

@IreneZGoodman

3 жыл бұрын

@@marisastoneobrien7834 a cult? Like Christianity?

Spirituality is personal

That was a really good call. I’m finding this very applicable in my politically mixed marriage. Only I’m not sure that I still love him 😞

@taiwanexpat5769

3 жыл бұрын

Do you not love him any more because of his political beliefs or is there something else? Just curious cause my wife and i have different political beliefs

@kwaviddong7875

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t let political beliefs separate your marriage. Like Chris Hogan says, the only house that matters is yours and not the White House. If you don’t love your husband because of your political beliefs then you are the problem.

Why does everyone call it a cult? Everyone is freely able to come and leave. And everyone says we abuse, some do but they get kicked out! And get sent to jail

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

That's not what goes on, you don't understand

@tabithaedwards745

Жыл бұрын

That not true you are shunned if you leave and family cuts you off and usually boots you out.

The doctors actually accept a signed parental form re transfusion

The caller might find some insight listening to the Lloyd Evans channel on youtube. This is very difficult to navigate. I really feel for the caller. If in any future relationship I hear even an utterance of Jehovah’s Witness, I’m running! It is imperative that beliefs on religion are sorted through at the start. I really hope it works out for this caller and that the children are not indoctrinated into the very high control religion of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Caller please be vigilant.

There goes the marriage. I'm married to someone whose parents were trained in it and brother was an elder. J Ws think and act like their from outer space. People have committed suicide. Mine was a miserable, miserable marriage. Good Luck to yah buddy. Kids are gonna be miserable and depressed. Oh boy. 😞😞😞

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

Yep they are signing on for much misery... it's sad

That woman has no respect for her husband at all, and is teaching their kids to disrespect their father, too. This isn't going to work, ever. He should've seen that coming before he married her and negotiated an agreement then or run. What a mess.

Pls don't let her do it

Send her my way!

I love my husband all my heart we are Catholic. If he wasn't Catholic we would not work out. It's to hard to deal with this.

Once they got her, they got her for good! Most people never wake up from that cult!

I had a nephew who dated a woman who was a "former" Jehovah's Witness that was being shunned by her family. It fell through when she was drawn back into that world, just like this guy's wife is being drawn back. I guess steer clear of that whole outfit unless one is ready to convert.

As a Jehova's Witness I can understand why these arguments are brought up, topics like the blood transfutions and the holidays can be like a rock that makes you trip 1.- I would clarify that we respect others beliefs and life, we dont desire anyone to have an accident were his life or a loved one is put in danger (Matthew 22:39) 2.- If the wife is strong in faith she will love his husband and respect his beliefs (Ephesians 5:33) 3.- We pray to Jehova in the name of Jesús or threw Jesús (1 Thimothy 2:5)

Get yr wife to watch Winston’s KZread channel. He has never been a JW , so she may listen to him. It may open her eye’s !

Jesus is the only way of salvation

Even though these two are similar, I’m Christian and my boyfriends catholic... there are so many conversations we have, never arguments but it definitely brings up conflicts in our relationship.

@mitchmiller2382

2 жыл бұрын

@Rose Nalborczyk. If your boyfriend is a practicing Catholic and you get married to him, you will have to literally sign over the rights to your children's spiritual education to the Catholic Church.

@Jennieallen415

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchmiller2382 That is no longer true.

@mitchmiller2382

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jennieallen415 If so, when did that change, and in what document?

@Jennieallen415

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchmiller2382 see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraphs 1633-1666, especially the paragraphs on ‘disparity of cult.’ It is now ‘encourage’ rather than ‘require.’

He should be worried.

It's been almost a year, I'm curious what's happened. I'm an atheist and don't have a high opinion of organized religions as it is, but JW is on another level. I don't see their marriage surviving at all. I just hope he was able to get a really good attorney and is able to counteract the damage the mom is going to be inflicting upon them.

Run

Pray pray pray 🙏🏽 There's testimonies & warnings about people who were saved from the religion on YT, check them out, hear the stories, & take the advice on how to help her.

@dannyd1098

3 жыл бұрын

prayer doesn't do anything

Lol 😂 poor John .he had to actually sip his drink before answering that one. That tells you . JW it dries your throat and soul.

@Edelwiess1066

Жыл бұрын

So true!

Yikes!!!

People of different religious backgrounds really shouldn't marry. They say that religion isn't important to them when they are dating, and it isn't. But when the children come along, as they did here, then people want to be a part of the community and rituals that they grew up with, and share all of that that with their children. If the couple's religious backgrounds don't mesh, then there's a big problem. All of this could be avoided if people dated within their general religious circles.

I think they might be DOOMED. Religious issues are hard to get around

Show her JW facts