I'm always so confused when people just completely blank on mon mothmas amazing move that also is the conclusion of her largest problem this season lol

@hoos3014

Жыл бұрын

You have to pay attention to the story to get it. Not everyone does.

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192

Жыл бұрын

@@hoos3014 Yeah, that’s why so many people find it ‘boring.’ If you’re paying attention, I don’t see any way that this show could be boring. It’d be like saying season 1 of True Detective is boring cause they talk all the time & don’t get in enough shootouts.

@CoffeePotGames

Жыл бұрын

Honestly Mon Mothma was my least favorite thing about the show overall the first time I saw it

The sad thing is the entire time on Narkina 5, Cassian is helping to built the thing that would ultimately kill him, and give his life trying to destroy

@Nek0xGG

Жыл бұрын

He helped build it indirectly, and also helped to destroy it in the end. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

@philipforchrist2239

Жыл бұрын

​@Nek0xGG I'm sure if you were in charge of one of the prison floors you'd be in your chair saying to your 7 tables, "Faster, more intense."

@edwardo_rojas_

Жыл бұрын

@@philipforchrist2239 I'm sure if you were in charge of anything you'll be annoying

@philipforchrist2239

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardo_rojas_ I think you missed the reference

@edwardo_rojas_

Жыл бұрын

@@philipforchrist2239 I did remember George, but I can't imagine Kino being that annoying lol

So did you not actually catch that Mon Mothma was framing her Husband (from an arranged marriage) blaming his gambling for the missing money that was being used to fund the Rebellion while her "new" chauffeur that she knew was an ISB agent (she told Luthien this in the very first episode) was listening? They "overemphasized" the money thing because it was something that could have brought down the whole rebellion even before it really began and the fact that Mon Mothma, the "ethical uncorruptible" leader of the Rebellion in the later movies/shows started the Rebellion by framing her Husband and giving her daughter to a gangster's son has shades of The Godfather in it.

@disconnexionsdotcom

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they will have more Mon Mothma next season, but I kinda wish she had her own series. I could watch Imperial politics all day long. I grew up on movies and shows set during the Nazi occupation and this show reminds me of this with all the intrigue and spy craft.

@kirkdarling4120

Жыл бұрын

@@disconnexionsdotcom Who knew Mon Mothma had such an intriguing backstory?

@darkphoenix2

Жыл бұрын

I really don't think they fully "got" this show TBH

@Rated314

Жыл бұрын

​@@darkphoenix2full agree. I think the show bumped up against some deeply rooted beliefs. Holden said early on that he wasn't enjoying the civil unrest (which while this is the grittiest, Star Wars is entirely a rebellion against fascism)... which I thought was funny, the second his brain decided to root for the unrest, it linked to "America 1776" 😂😂😂 Is it just me, or does it seem like Florida is radicalizing Holden?

@armstrongQB1

Жыл бұрын

@@darkphoenix2 This reaction series was them starting blank at the screen for 90% of the show lol. One of the worst reaction series for Andor I've seen on youtube.

Andor has to be some of the best Star Wars content Disney has produced. Excellent writing, strong performances, and all around interesting scenarios that capture a side of the Star Wars galaxy seldom explored. Hopefully, season 2 has the same quality.

@SomeGuys31415

Жыл бұрын

It is the best Star Wars content Disney produced. It’s some of the best Star Wars content produced period.

@O1iver

Жыл бұрын

100% agree ^^

@omgnuub

Жыл бұрын

It's, in my mind, the best star wars content ever made.

@Niclout

Жыл бұрын

@@omgnuub okay thats taking it wayyy too far 💀 I get people saying they liked it but to say its the best piece of star wars EVER is insane

@TRPLD

Жыл бұрын

It is because they finally gave a story the time it needed to unfold and suck us in. It makes everything better if you give it enough time to develop in its own pace.

I dont think you caught the fact that the post credit scene showed the rings that Cassian was building in prison were shown as part of the laser part of the death star that kills him

@obibyn

Жыл бұрын

Nope. They didnt.

@christianjalexander

Жыл бұрын

They definitely didn't. Lol Like, that's the whole point of the scene 🤦🏻‍♂️

@cogitatorcat2306

Жыл бұрын

@@christianjalexander no they didn’t, quite a lot of nuance was missed throughout the series.

@christianjalexander

Жыл бұрын

@@cogitatorcat2306 that much I kind of expected. Not saying they're normies, but...... I was expecting a lot of the sociopolitical commentary to go over most people's heads even if they really enjoyed the show. But to miss the whole point of the Death Star scene??

I didn’t pick up on this on the first viewing. But watching reactions. I now know Mon accusing him of gambling is her putting the missing funds on him.

@nathanlawson313

Жыл бұрын

100% accurate. She first asked for privacy knowing the spy driver would listen up. He will pass on that any missing funds "might be" the husband gambling. The upset look she gives after accusing him, is because she is putting stress on her marriage for the rebellion and feels guilty.

The reason the last few episodes of the season seem more exciting is because so much of the setup of the first few episodes start to resolve and pay-off. This is what great story telling looks like.

If Andor and his prison mates crew were churning out hundreds of those pieces a DAY, over a period of MONTHS, that conveys the sheer enormity of the Death Star. And then there was a stockpile waiting for the second Death Star… so sickening.

The driver wasn't listening to their conversation for entertainment. He's an imperial spy, keeping tabs on Mothma. That's why she blamed her husband for gambling in front of him. It was to feed info that she wanted him to hear.

@scaryghost5721

Жыл бұрын

And by doing that , she got a "reason" to marry her daughter to the Mafia son is to pay that "gambling debt".

@RetroFett

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. To blame her banking withdrawals on her husband's (non-existent) gambling habit.

I think with the Mon Mothma stuff it was drawn out because she herself is stalling. She has been trying to do this her way and Luthen is full steam ahead with what he's doing. She's trying to hold on to her humanity and the good in her. And then she realizes she needs to make the hard decisions like framing her husband for the money and make the ultimate sacrifice by basically selling her own daughter off. She took that necessary, but hard step in order to keep the rebellion going. So i wouldn't look at it as being about the money or her daughter. That's just the obstacle. Instead i look at it as her learning what the rebellion is really going to require of her to make it successful. There is no easy way out of this. It's not going to be a simple fix and she can go back to what she was doing. Its going to take hard decisions and sacrifice. We all know she was going to agree to the deal, but knowing how much she hated that option yet still agreed to it shows how far she has come and how committed she is to the rebellion. She is just starting to become the woman that will lead the rebellion and eventually the new republic. I love it because before we look at her and all the rebels in Return of the Jedi, Rogue One and Rebels we think "wow these are great people and they're the good guys". But all of them including Mon Mothma have had to do some really shitty things. Things that make you question for a second "wait i thought this person was the hero".

@TheGamefreak612

Жыл бұрын

fantastic breakdown. this is exactly what is going on.

@kirkdarling4120

Жыл бұрын

OTOH, when Mon Mothma's participation in the rebellion becomes known, Davo Skuldan is probably the best person around to hide her daughter and keep her safe.

@Dene181

Жыл бұрын

There is no easy way out, but "there is one way out".

@kaizen5023

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she is basically sacrificing her family for the Rebellion.

@PatrickWallsisawesome

Жыл бұрын

I agree with almost all of this, but her disliking giving her daughter up for marriage and framing her husband didn't read to me as "trying to hold onto her humanity" as much as "her trying to remain in her comfort and status quo that is enabled by the fascism of the Empire and the regressive tradition of her planet", and she realized that in order to fight for true liberation for the galaxy she would need to make those extremely difficult personal sacrifices. It may have been easier to keep her family together, but given what was needed to support the rebellion, she couldn't stay enmeshed in the status quo any more. Maybe she tries to keep up appearances in S2 by remaining in the Senate and whatnot, but what's clear throughout this show is that being a rebel is a truly radical act in this society. It means basically joining what could be viewed as a terrorist cell from the Empire's perspective.

Season 2 was announced way before the show even started. How has no one told him that after 12 episodes? 😂

That whole funeral scene was so good so well done

I still can't believe this show exists. it doesn't feel like Disney and lucasfilm made it and that's a good thing. it feels like a prestige HBO show

I watched the Marva speech for who know how many times and I get goosebumps each and every time. I'm ready to rebel!

@johantolli372

Жыл бұрын

"The Empire is a disease that thrives in darkness" with a close up on Luthens face is such a good line and symbolism

@omegaprime692

Жыл бұрын

I like that close up on Luthen. Marva's speech validates his sacrifices, that the spark of rebellion is growing and it hasn't been in vain.

The younger man at the funeral with curly hair brings me to tears with his acting man, makes you feel the sadness and anger they’re all feeling.

In case no one let you know, season 2 is almost done filming (slowed by the writers strike). It’s going to be in 3 episode arcs with a year between each arc. The last episode will end with Cassian heading to meet the guy he met at the beginning of Rogue One.

Just in case someone else hasn't explained it on either Patreon or KZread, but the Mon Mothma storyline is a tragic one. Mon Mothma, as we know, is funding the rebellion, but as the Empire starts to tighten its grip on the Galaxy, the Empire starts to pay closer attention to her because she has funds missing with no explanation of where it went. Her driver, as she notes to Luthen (Stellan Skarsgard), is an ISB spy, so her every move is being watched. She re-connects with her old friend in the hopes that he can help her recoup the money, but the only one who can come up with that large an amount is essentially a scummy criminal who Mon Mothma DOES NOT want to associate with, especially through a family marriage. Mon Mothma's family dynamic is quite tragic as well. Her daughter does not like her and actively rebels against her. Meanwhile, her husband is perfectly content living a life of luxury while the galaxy suffers, something Mon Mothma CANNOT do. She can't live with herself knowing what the Empire is doing. Ultimately, she sacrifices her family for the rebellion. She makes up the story of her husband gambling so that the ISB spy will tell his boss that thats where the money is going, and not to the rebellion, and she marries her daughter off to the son of the scummy guy to get his help financially to fund the rebellion. The plotline kinda gets bogged down because underneath all the money mumbo jumbo, Mon Mothma is struggling to accept the reality of what she needs to do in order to keep funding the rebellion. She's the moral compass, the incorruptible senator who stands uo against evil. But in order to fight the Empire, she needs to sacrifice her family and get down and dirty by associating with the scummy guy she essentially sells her daughter to and to accept that Luthen's, and in some cases Saw Gerrerra's, brand of rebellion is necessary to effect real change. There's no room for ethics when it comes to rebellion.

@Dene181

Жыл бұрын

It is somewhat ironic, that her daughter rebels against her, while she rebels against the empire. 🤷‍♂

@christianwise637

Жыл бұрын

The disturbing part is that her daughter would likely actually be into the whole arranged marriage thing. The previous episode establishes she's very into the old Chandrillan customs in a way that her parents aren't, so she probably views the arrangement as a positive thing while from Mon Mothma's perspective she's effectively signing away her daughter's future

@the_competent_gamer9454

Жыл бұрын

@christianwise637 i think more so she does it because she knows Mon Mothma doesn't approve. Notice how when she's reciting the oath, she looks to her mom. I personally interpreted her actions as her doing them to spite her mother, without realizing how she'll feel about these actions later down the line in her life.

@agresticumbra

Жыл бұрын

@@the_competent_gamer9454 Her daughter could believe in them while rebelling against her mother; they aren't mutually exclusive. The thing is, when she matures, will she still hold to these traditions? Basically, what person will she become?

@nosoulboy13

28 күн бұрын

Excellent summary. ✨🧐✨

Nemik's manifesto is so relevend in a lot of ways tou our modern world and it got me pretty emotional

This is top-tier, award-winning writing ... and acting! Best Star Wars content since the o.g. trilogy. So sad that the recent movies could have been this good but were so rushed.

@Rated314

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think from an objective place... this is even better writing than the original trilogy. People are so precious about 4,5, and 6...

Andor is Star Wars for adults. The Tiktok generation just doesn't have the attention span. Great writing and acting. Stellan Skarsgård's monologue about what he sacrificed an episode or two ago and Marva's speech in this episode was perfection.

@user-jt1js5mr3f

Жыл бұрын

I know plenty of adults who couldn't sit still for it either, calm down, you generationalist.

It was not really a cliffhanger since we know that Cassion joins the rebellion. This season was about how he got there and it ended with him fully committing to the cause.

The Mon Mothma stuff was all about financing the rebellion and the last scene of her was to show that she is willing to sacrifice her family to free the galaxy from the empire. The argument with her husband in the car was on purpose so the driver (who is an undercover agent) could report back that the husband is the one making the money moves. So I actually enjoyed that. How do you start the rebellion as a Senator without the emperor finding out especially when your the obvious person to start it.

Normal Star Wars - "We hate the empire!" "You do? We do too!" "Let's all be friends and immediately trust one another because we're all good people and the empire is all evil people!" Andor - Three dimensional characters with real motivations, fears, relationships, distrust, resignation to their fates, anger, ambitions, hopes, and love. People living under authoritarian rule still have lives and jobs and a desire to keep their families safe so acts of rebellion must be born from real motivation - one single incident like seeing your father hung in the public square just to make a point or having to suffer constant indignities (Luthen's speech about them always pushing through a crowd, always laughing). But at the same time, these people will live in constant fear of being found out so they can never completely trust their allies. Navigating all of that is the beauty of the storytelling of Andor. It was so good.

The last ep tense as hell, but was almost hilarious in retrospect. Everyone was so paranoid, wondering where Andor is, where's Andor, what is he doing, where is he? And he improvises a break-in, escape, and tracks down the guy who came to kill him. No-one even knew he did it, he ghosted the whole thing. It's the culmination of his 'superpower' of being able to slip under radars and get through the cracks in systems and setups.

The cool thing about the post credit scene was the shape of the Death Star in the last shot was the shape of the insignia of the rebellion. It was also cool, how Cassian was building the very thing that would kill him, but he’d give his life to help destroy it.

Sinta also killed those hostages she was watching over a few episodes previous, she's ruthless

@kirkdarling4120

Жыл бұрын

Cinta was focused on stalking and killing the Imperial spy even though her real job was to locate Andor. Yes, she's ruthless and focused on killing Imperials. It's unlikely she left the hostages alive. And as well, the hostages would have been able to thwart her escape and identify them all.

In the funeral speech, the final line of "Fight the Empire," was actually dubbed. The original like was "F__k the Empire," but they decided to pull the fbomb.

@kirkdarling4120

Жыл бұрын

Good decision. Despite being profane (which is titillating to some), it would have been rhetorically weaker. "Eff the Empire" is not a call to specific action. Heck, it could have even meant "Ignore the Empire."

This is one of my favorite Star Wars series. The writing was stellar and well thought out.

Season 2 is confirmed!! It’s filming now. Or was at least, may have been put on hold for the writers strike in not sure.

@de68a

Жыл бұрын

It has been filming in the UK, may have moved onto Spain now. Season 2 shooting was halted at Winspit Quarry recently due to possible rock falls. Shooting has been taking/due to take place at: •Barbican Estate, London •Lloyds Building, London •McLaren Technology Centre, Woking •Hever Castle, Hever, Kent, England •Valencia, Spain.

3:21: can’t believe Y’all missed all the cues. Triggered a lot of the viewers at the time. They said they were sharing a blanket. They held hands several times. The searing looks between them across space

@marshsundeen

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they are a couple. Cinta is willing to put the rebellion above e everything else though.

I can’t wait for the rogue one rewatch after seeing Andor 😬

@jason42080

Жыл бұрын

it would be best for Holden and Jen to do the Rewatch of Rouge One after seeing Season 2 Andor...since it will end with Andor seeing Jyn for the First Time but from His point of view of seeing Jyn in the distance through a Window or a Doorway

This episode had me sweating bullets when it first launched. The tension leading up to the Ferrix uprising is so palpable and portrayed so well. A glance here, a murmur there, and then when the imperial lieutenant tips over B, it just freaking explodes into some of the best chaos I’ve ever seen filmed. Masterful cinematography and directing.

The Daughters of Ferrix must have already heard Maarva's speech. They were clearly "aiming to misbehave" from the beginning, defying the Imperial restrictions in every way they could. When the funeral dirge turned into a battle march, it became obvious they intended to start some shizzle. They didn't foresee the bomb, though. I really don't consider this a cliffhanger ending. While I'm sure "the continued adventures of Andor" will be exciting, this season explains satisfactorily to me who Andor was and how he came to become a rebel. I think the arc of his character development has been shown. If I'm wrong...that surprise will be pleasant. I'm more intrigued for next season about Mon Mothma's further development into becoming the leader of an overt Rebel Alliance. The moment of her public announcement occurs in Star Wars: Rebels, but the story of how she got to that point will be interesting. I think it will become a lucky stroke that her daughter is married to Davo Skuldon's son...Davo is probably the best person to hide her daughter once Mon's rebel involvement becomes public. I'm wondering how Deedra is going to keep her career intact after this debacle...but I wouldn't be surprised if she manages to hang the blame on that feckless battalion commander. I wouldn't be surprised if Syril and Deedra wind up being assigned to the Death Star at the end (like Wuulf Yularen, the mustachioed ISB admiral, who we saw briefly on the Death Star in "A New Hope").

So Andor helped make the thing that killed him

Yes, there is season 2... they clearly left plenty of unfinished storylines by design, because both seasons were greenlit at the same time. It seems clear to me that Mon Mothma will get more focus in season 2 because while the show is primarily about how Cassian Andor became a man willing to sacrifice himself for the rebellion, they are also showing us how Mon Mothma ultimately became a leader of the rebellion.

This was absolutely incredible!! In my own opinion, it is undeniable S Tier level of Star Wars. The writing, dialogue, and characterization was phenomenal. In an era where we're used to quick action and quick satisfaction in media, this was a refreshing change of pace. I love slowburn stories and I'm so glad Star Wars has that now. Overall, I would rank this 9.5/10 and say (again, in my own opinion), the best piece of live action Star Wars. Ever. I mean, come on! This was the ONLY time where Star Wars actually made me scared of a TIE fighter and even of stormtroopers.

my favourite episode tbh, just loved maarva's speech and the music during it and wrapping everything together so well is great

The Mon Mothma stuff shows her struggles in trying to fight the empire from the inside, and not being entirely supportive of the way Luthen is fighting. She had been pulling funds out of her family accounts to fund rebellion efforts, and doesn't see an easy way out... she has to turn on her family in one way or another. It looks to me like she's made the choice for the rebellion over her family, as she's shifting the money blame onto her husband. And then with her daughter, I think she's going ahead with it mostly for the façade of what she'd do as someone high level fixing her husband's "mistakes".

I think Mon Mothma's story is about making compromises and showing why she is a leader of the rebellion.

While I agree that Mon Mothma's part was the least exciting and a bit repetitive, I'll defend it with a couple of points you might have missed: - You said that you are expecting for the money to be relevant in the story, but the point was more about hiding the money that she already channeled to the rebellion through Luthen (and probably already spent) than about spending new money. Seeing Luthen's activities and assets you can see clearly how the money is being spent, at least partially: his ship is clearly extremely expensive, and he also is providing weapons to Saw Guerrera. But if you want a more direct and meaningful connection to Mon Mothma's money it's the fact that Andor is being promised pay for both the stolen equipment, the information about how he stole it and later the Aldhaani heist. While I think it could have been done better, I appreciate them showing that funding the rebellion is not cheap and the people who put the money are as much at risk as the people on the ground. - While I agree that the "how are we going to hide the money?" feels a bit repetitive, every single conversation about that adds a bit of information: when she first approaches her banking friennd, she just wants to find a way of keeping things hidden. Then at the next conversation with his friend, we learn that she is in much more trouble than she thought and that the Empire is going to look into her finances very soon, and his friend offers her to meet the gangster. Later, we meet the gangster and learn the price for his collaboration. During the conversation with Vel, confirm that Mon is thinking seriously about accepting the gangster's help (although it was quite clear before that she was), but we also learn that the daughter is really getting into a traditionalist mindset and probably won't mind going through with the "introduction", but surprisingly, Mon's husbend is not thrilled about it. Then the scene where she accuses her husbend of gambling when knowing the driver is a spy is just perfect, for two reasons: showing us Mon is not above sacrificing her own (probably innocent in this matter) husbend's reputation to cover her funding, but also giving a tiny bit of hope to the viewer that maybe this will be enough to cover up the money and perhaps she won't have to go through with sacrificing her daughter. But then we discover that she didn't consider that to be enough and she is also willing to sacrifice her daughter for the rebellion she will one day lead. In the end, I tthink I agree it was the weakest part of the show, but I am still very happy they did include it, and enjoyed seeing the high society political intrigue and a different kind of sacrifice for the rebellion, Perhaps developing it more would have been better, but the season was relatively short, and giving more time to "finances and political intrigue" was a bit too risky, as much as I would have enjoyed it. We must also keep in mind that, other than the short appearences of Yularen and Saw, and of course Andor (and the guy he escapes with from prison), Mon Mothma is the only pre-existing character in the whole season, and she has somewhat prominent roles in other Star Wars mediaa, so, perhaps they were more reluctant to do more stuff with her, but also I feel like having her as a prominent character gave us that connection to the wider pre-existing Star Wars universe, which is important in a show where most of the characters are new.

the final cut scene showed the use of the products the prisoners were assembling...

Im probably alone here but I am so glad to see the finale of this show on this channel. I haven't gotten to see Andor, and didnt want to spoil it, and even there's only 13 episodes it's legit felt like every 2 days for the past few months there is another Andor video on the channel. Excited to see a new TV series on here, the Expanse maybe?

@thedrudgetick

Жыл бұрын

The Expanse!!!!!

@Alexszander

Жыл бұрын

The Expanse is a monstruously good tv series. As far as "space stuff" goes, nothing comes close to it and the complexity and design of the politics in it, the performances of the actors...truly one of a kind. The only reason that series flew under the radar for so many peopple and it also ended prematurely is because it had the misfortune of coming out at the same time as Game of Thrones. Ironically, the latter ended in absolute shame while the former created such a satisfying ending, even having to cut everything short because of the reduced number of episodes in the last season.

@Dene181

Жыл бұрын

The Expanse would be perfect! Great one.

@OneMediocreGamer

Жыл бұрын

I put off watching The Expanse for ages because it couldn't possibly be as good as people made it seem right? But no, it actually was/is. I LOVE that show, easily the best sci-fi series with regards to scientifically possible, or atleast believable, action set pieces between ships battling in space. Also Amos, need I say more? xD

@Alexszander

Жыл бұрын

@@OneMediocreGamer couldn't agree more! Amos is the fuckin goat but Christjen...my god that lady can act her fuckin heart out

I always remember Syril because he was always eating cereal at his mom's place.

The significance of the credit scene is that it is what Andor and the prison inmates were building, not sure if you caught on that! :)

@Actorclown

Жыл бұрын

Yeah funny they did not mention that. When you see the cogs that the prisoners were making were connectors for the Death Star dish it is kind of a mind blowing revelation.

I really enjoyed Rogue One and it's characters, so I was really interested in this show. But after Boba Fett and Kenobi, I felt that it may not be that good, man... I was wrong! It is so well written, the scenery/ambiance, the music and characters are just amazing! Can't wait for season 2! The 3 episode arcs are actually pretty nice to watch and the finale pays of great. It was such a treat to see an "old school" Star Wars fan also liking the show. Some of the reactions felt a bit short, but hey, we are on KZread here, so it is fine and I am just happy that I was able to see your reactions to this amazing show. ❤😊

The only people that can think this is boring is children, who want to see stuff like Mandalorian and so on. This is by far the best Star Wars show, and probably the best Star Wars related production of the last 20 years.

The emotional scene by that Droid though...

@marshsundeen

Жыл бұрын

B2EMO is the heart of the show.

Easily Top 5 series ... No failures here at all writing acting production music ... Can't wait for season 2 which has been in production since beginning of year though the writers strike had halted it currently enjoy your reactions and thoughts ❤ happiness on the baby 💞

Heh, cool now I can binge your reactions to this brilliance. They are producing S2 and release is scheduled next August. I'd totally recommend doing Arcane - it is animated but the writing is despair-inducing but also incredibly motivating (as a writer) and has superb cinematography, sound, music, voice acting, animation, and art style.

@Rated314

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, when Holden and Jen are doing series... I wish they would catch up with other reactors and do them in batches. Break seasons down into like thirds or halves.

Really hoping you guys start posting your Rebels watch-throughs soon

The one change Disney required for this series was that the line had to be "Fight the Empire" instead of a different f word.

@kirkdarling4120

Жыл бұрын

The change was better.

@senorelroboto2

Жыл бұрын

@@kirkdarling4120 I honestly agree. I'm not completely opposed to colorful language in Star Wars, but I would find the f bomb to be unimmersive.

@kirkdarling4120

Жыл бұрын

@@senorelroboto2 It also muddles the meaning of the rhetoric. "Fight the Empire" is an unambiguous call to action. "Eff the Empire" could also just mean "Ignore the Empire" or "I don't care about the Empire."

This show was confirmed to have a second season while this one was shooting. Season 2 is currently being shooting since the beginning of the year in Spain, I'm not sure if they stopped due to the screenwriters aren't working at the moment. Also they confirmed it will lead to the beginning of Rouge One. I'm agree that the Mon Mothma part wasn't the most interesting arc of the season, I prefer the prison one and the finale were definitely amazing. Now I believe that it was important to know how she had to deal with the empire following and spying on her and her bank account.

It was confirmed that there will be a second and final season with twelve episodes, broken down to four three-episode arcs with each covering a year, that ends before the events of Rogue One.

The Plan for the show is 2 seasons, 12 episodes per season. Season 2 has been in production. Writer's strike is in progress, so who knows how long it will take.

I think it's helpful to view the Mon Mothma and Syril Karn storylines as two thematic sides of the coin of dedication to a cause. Syril Karn starts as a company man, but his obsessions with hunting Andor and stalking Meero end up enveloping him into becoming a fascist cog in the Imperial machine. He and Meero both become personifications of the authoritarian punishments from the Empire as a reaction to the heist in the second arc of the series. They are both have separate personal motivations that end up driving them both deeper into willing tools of the Empire. With Mothma, it's about how dedicated she is truly to rebellion and the sacrifices that she must face. She is an immensely privileged member of society, being a senator and extremely wealthy. But when faced with what her decision to oppose the Empire costs, she tries not to pay. She works in her role in the Senate to try and reform things from inside, but obviously it doesn't work because she is ignored there. And to fund the rebellion - including activities she might find too extreme - she must allow her daughter to get more fully enveloped into a tradition she finds regressive while blaming her husband for the missing funds. Her perhaps-lackluster-but-not-necessarily-portrayed-as-bad marriage must suffer for rebellion to occur, and her privileged life on Coruscant must be sacrificed for her to fully commit to opposing the Empire. It's painful to her as she is so used to the status quo and benefiting from it. I think what I love so much about this show, despite it being named for Andor, is that he is but one interesting character becoming radicalized by life under the Empire. Instead of only following him, we see people in multiple parts of this society grappling with the fascism and authoritarianism that is literally inspired by the Nazis and the US foreign policy in Vietnam, either rejecting or embracing it, and seeing how they react or what they give up in order to fight for the cause they believe in. Plus, the acting, music, production, writing, directing, etc. All fantastic. If you have never seen Tony Gilroy's Michael Clayton, I highly recommend it.

"The Mon Mothma stuff felt regurgitated." I guess my question would be what you think could've been cut out of those sections that still would get the point across. Mon goes from quietly financing the rebellion, to being put in the empire's crosshairs because of the raid on Aldhani. Where before imperial procedure wouldn't have noticed the $400k missing, because of the new policy introduced because of her cousin's actions, she was going to be found out. One thing that confused me during this episode is the joke that the driver was listening in on her and Perrin for his own amusement, when since the beginning he was established as being a spy for ISB. The implication there being that before Aldhani and despite not knowing about the money she gave Luthen, the only thing she had done that was "suspicious" was disagreeing with Palpatine's policies in the senate. Just for disagreeing, that had been enough for ISB to plant a long-term spy on her staff. Then, because no one had warned her ahead of time, not even her own cousin who was in the rebellion, her life was now on the line. It's showcasing the problem with operating in cells with no central command structure; one arm of the rebellion can accidentally get another arm killed. That's why they eventually form The Alliance to Restore the Republic; to make sure things like what happened to Mon doesn't happen again. However, it's too late for her, and she ultimately loses her daughter and is forced to to compromise her morals. It's all about sacrifice, and what it takes to actually fight tyranny.

@hoos3014

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If the viewer doesn't pay close attention, they miss the details and nuance that you outline here.

and so the rebellion began ❤❤❤season 2 was the plan from the very beginning to end it where roque one will start❤️😍

told you they was making parts for the death star in the prison im guessing season 2 of andor if they do a season 2 should come out about christmas and jen you look great i dont know why i think it could just be me but pregnant women look so damn beautiful

Favorite star wars media as a whole to date imo. Definitely hope they do this type of style or genre of Star Wars more in the future.

The fucking dialogue in this show is more than Star Wars deserves.

It's a lot, a great episode, a few amazing monologs. To me this show was Star Wars for adults, for several reasons. One of the not really touched on things in the episode I think for me is Bix. She doesn't know Marva has passed away until the funeral music starts up and she hears it all from her cell.

that last end credit scene shows what they was building in the prison!

Syril Karn is great character because he mirrors with Cassian. Cassian slowly joining the rebellion, and Karn on the other hand the same thing but joining the Empire.

You guys have been a lot of fun to watch with this show. I love this show and everything about it. I disagree about Mon's stuff. Trying to pull something off without people noticing what you're doing is playing chess. It's what Mon and Luthen does best. All the scenes set up what happened in this episode with her scenes. She's got an explanation for where the money went for the ISB and a way to keep funding the growing Rebellion. It's about what she's willing to sacrifice. I love this woman! Loved Maarva's speech and the uprising on Ferrix. What I like about this show is that it's taking it's time to build up to bigger things. I don't mind Syril becoming the humor of the show and his simping for Dedra. I think it's hilarious. Season 2 principle photography has probably finished filming and it'll be 12 episodes each 3 episode arc covering something for each year BBY. For me the Aldanhi arc is my favorite.

About time! Not sure how you guys didn't simply binge this one... lol

This show had a strange quality that felt both slow, and yet, captivating! In this episode, the funeral processions and Maarva's speech comprise possibly the most powerful and emotionally impactful scene in all of Star Wars! And, indeed, one the most in all of screen-dom! And the music! So good! I have watched it over and over! And B2EMO! Can somebody please just hold and comfort that poor droid, already!!!

Without any spoilers (because I don't know any), yes, there will be a second season. They may have already filmed it, I'm not sure, but it was the plan from the beginning. The second season will cover a wider arc of time and lead directly into ROGUE ONE.

What an amazing journey 🤩

Yaaaay, you guys reached the end. :) That after-credits scene is so good. Freakin Death Star, baby! (I had mu suspicions while they were making these parts that they might be for the Death Star. Good fun :) ) Glad you guys liked the series....it was so good. It was a good ending, while keeping it open for a second season. :) Hoping you guys will watch Punisher soon.... a good series. :)

Holden and Jen i can't believe you Missed the revealing of the Secret Puzzle Piece finally being pieced together (pun Intended) of what Andor and the prisoners were building in the Prison which was the Connector Pieces for the Panels the Astro Spider Bots were welding together to build the Death Star

Great reaction to an incredible series. Can’t wait for season 2. 👍👍

They set Cyril up to be Dedra's new assistant by having Corv get shanked. The garrison commander will end up taking the blame for the mess on Ferrix and Dedra will probably end up getting a medal. Vel and Cinta were doing the overseas-markets friendly version of knocking boots. "Come away from the window" = "Come to My Window". Subtle but it's definitely there.

Did yall notice that the end credit scene was showing that the hexagon things they were making in the prison is what was being put into the radar of the death star? Kinda poetic since cassian helped make the death star and its what ended up killing him

Congrats on the baby ❤❤❤❤❤

"I love him more than anything that he could do wrong." wow.

Mon Mothma sold her husband and daughter to fund the rebellion. Marva hits back post death as Brasso used her funary brick to break some stormtrooper skulls.

I’ve really enjoyed your reviews of Andor. I think the series is the best Star Wars content that we’ve had on television. Glad you finally got the time to watch it.

Holden was really on his game in this video.. he had me rolling so many times and Jen's reactions were priceless.

so hope you enjoyed Adult Star Wars I definitely needed this series. Maybe you guys are ready for Arcane now considering it hits even harder than this.

The two speeches in this episode are amazing Nemiks manifesto is inspiring for a start but Maarvas just steals the episode she becomes a light in the darkness and as a Star wars fan one of my favourite scenes in Star Wars.I loved this series it was so dark and sombre and the finale was even was more so and intense like a powderkeg ready to blow and perfectly shows the rest of the galaxy struggling against the empire oppression and why the rebellion is born when people stand up and say No more!great reaction Holden and Jen been so excited for you guys to get to this one as well as no way out!😊 Also the quieter you Jen says "Holden Thomas Hardman"the more hilarious it gets😂

I was looking forward to this

I wouldn't call that a cliffhanger, you can watch rogue one after that and understand everything.

This series ranks up there with the original trilogy for me. Like Jedi level not quite Empire level. But it hits extra powerfully right now with the current political climate worldwide. Jen said "this doesn't seem like a fair fight at all." Unfortunately that's how fighting back against fascism is if you let it get that far. One of the messages of the show for sure. Don't let it get that far.

Andor is very faithful to original trilogy theatrical releases.

pay attention to the opening sequences, they add a new instrument each weak. We do get a sesaon two, but the writer's strike may hurt the quality if it's not resolved soon.

@AngeloBarovierSD

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Doubtful it’ll hurt quality. Writers still work (in their heads) even when they’re not turning in scripts. You can bet writers from shows are still talking to each other about story during the strike. The only real question is how production will respond. (Also, the IATSE contract is up for renegotiation soon. So, y’know, fun times for film workers!)

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Tony Gilroy said the season 2 script was already fully complete before the strike so he was originally going to keep doing his production work but he paused his production duties as well due to pressure from the writers guild.

This was probably my favorite episodic show Disney put out. The down & dirty every day life under the Empire and the showing of the slow hard build up of what would be the Rebellion was fantastic. I think the prison break episode was the best.

I’ve been waiting to see if you notice this. There is a theory around Luthen. 1. In the back of his shop, he has two holocrons, both Jedi and Sith. 2. Go back and watch the scene where he talks to his informant. He says has lost everything. 3. Look closely at the handle of his walking stick. It’s just about the right size … of a lightsaber. I’m pretty sure Luthen is a Jedi who survived Order 66 and is hiding in plain sight.

I have a feeling the syril thing will be tied up in season 2. Really glad you guys enjoyed it, overall. I really wanted you guys to enjoy it. It’s been great to see your journey with it.

There is a 2nd season coming. This whole series leads right into Rogue One.

If it hasn't been specified yet, Season 2 is in production and will cover the remaining 4 years BBY leading up to Rogue One/A New Hope. Each 3-episode story arc will jump a year (vs this season, which takes place in a single year, 5 BBY). The show will probably end up alternating with the seasons of Rebels, ie: Andor Season 1, Rebels S1, Andor S2.0, REB S2, Andor S2.25, REB S3, Andor S2.5, etc.

This whole series told the story of rebellion so well! Rebellion isn't a tidy thing where morally superior people beat the oppressors. It's dirty, quiet and murdery. Until it explodes in rage! Watching Rogue One after this is hard.

Have to love this show

Cinta is a stone cold killer! How she killed the Imperial with no hesitation verifies (to me) that she killed the hostages on Aldhani and she enjoyed every second of it.

@marshsundeen

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Yes, pretty sure she killed the Imperial wife and son.

Not everyone likes the Death Star “The Administration shares your desire for job creation and a strong national defense, but a Death Star isn’t on the horizon. Here are a few reasons: The construction of the Death Star has been estimated to cost more than $850,000,000,000,000,000. We’re working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it. The Administration does not support blowing up planets. Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship?" That is the first part of an official response from the Obama White House in 2013. The internet submitted a petition that reached the threshold number that the administration had said it would officially respond too.

12:57 Holden, holy damn u almost died there! x) Love your vids, keep'em coming!

The end scene wasn't a cliffhanger. It continued almost seamlessly into Rogue One.

Jen really killed it in her review. Nailed everything that was good about the series as well as some of its weaknesses.

Definitely the best looking star wars live action series.

I've commented so many times to not miss the end credit scene ,😭

I don't know about anyone else but watching Andor when it came out and then watching the season 3 premiere of The Mandalorian made it look like a kiddie show compared to the adult themes of Andor