JK stated clearly that he wants to be the world's biggest pop star. Go Jungkook!!

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

does dat take away other members doesn't want to be successful just bc they didn't mention?

@michelle_obarna4468

8 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that all members are different and what "success" means to all of them could be different, no? So, let's stop assuming and just appreciate their music and each taste is VERY different to each other and the public can RELATE to the 7 different styes/taste, so let's JUST enjoy and support them...my opinion of course. :-)

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

@@michelle_obarna4468 im sure members wd be happy w numbers/huge support their solo work gets either they or you define it as "success or not" yes namjoon said numbers/charts are important. jimin was happy when like crazy hit #1 so yea numbers matter lol.

@user-uj3hb7ye9v

8 ай бұрын

@@michelle_obarna4468i agree and I agree success is not depend on the solo to get success coz we know that still tae doesn’t get billboard 100 top 1 but still he is the most popular member in the BTS and also the most popular K-pop artist in the world

@user-uj3hb7ye9v

8 ай бұрын

⁠i agree and I agree success is not depend on the solo to get success coz we know that still tae doesn’t get billboard 100 top 1 but still he is the most popular member in the BTS and also the most popular K-pop artist in the world

Note that RM’s Indigo album is ALWAYS sold out on weverse and sold out in store at least in my area in the US. Indigo is TIMELESS! RM is a lyrical genius and I predict this album will be nominated for many awards!!

@wildlotus4339

8 ай бұрын

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JK has always loved western pop music. he's been doing english covers since he debuted. he's like the biggest Justin Bieber fan for 10 years. In his livestreams he's always listening to pop music, songs that are trendy on tiktok, so I don't get why ppl are shocked he's making that kind of music

@sarahf7

8 ай бұрын

I also hate when ppl downplay a member’s success just bc it didn’t get the same results as another’s. Rapline’s albums all achieved things no other kpop solo acts have ever done & were immensely successful. It makes no sense to compare the results of an English pop song (Seven) to namjoon’s wildflower

@user-uh4rt5tm8g

8 ай бұрын

You are absolutely right about not being surprised of Kookie choosing pure pop as his solo debut. My moots and I are a bit taken aback on the subject matter and lyrics. Of course we are aware that JK is an adult and he is of course free to do whatever type of music he’d like too. As long as this is what he wants to do, we will continue to support him. And omg yes about comparing success! Maknae line akgaes kept coming for Layover saying it’s a flop just because it didn’t reach BB100 no 1. They of course, skip over the whole part where Layover was mostly either joint no 1 (with Indigo) or no 2 in critical analysis of the solo debuts by music lovers

@JackpotArmy

8 ай бұрын

Yes sadly a lot of these complaints are because people keep comparing the members projects 😓

@chbenzy9359

8 ай бұрын

​@@JackpotArmyyes that's the saddest part without even understanding what each of them wants for their own solo careers. Maybe they think ALL genres are the same so the expectations are also the same..

@anastashiam1154

8 ай бұрын

​@@sarahf7absolutely, couldn't have said it better

Yup Jin promised that he would be the grande finale and release his album, and has songs already being prepared- im excited to see what his solo era will be like because he's going to have a lot of time before the rest of the guys return to dabble in everything he wants to do. I loved jimins era so much (as well as all of the guys) so Jin is the one im most anticipating now, bc he's really got such a big arsenal.

@JackpotArmy

8 ай бұрын

That would be awesome if Jin releases an album when he comes back!

@opaquea2448

8 ай бұрын

@@JackpotArmy ive been excited every since the festa dinner since thats when he revealed that he would release his last. but i also hear rm is planning another album and jimin is going to have more music! as well as jks album coming up so for now im anticipating them, and then when jin returns (in 8 months!!! time is flying) ill be soooo ready

Jimin album was phenomenal, enjoyed every song on the album. 🥰🥰❤️

@JackpotArmy

8 ай бұрын

Me too! When I was in the US I walked into a store to look for the members albums I found FACE so I bought it 😁

@Cynri3

8 ай бұрын

I waited patiently for all the album release frenzy to slow down and asked my niece to buy both versions or whatever she finds of each member, especially Jimin's. Will get them on Monday .😁🤞

@raginirai4335

4 ай бұрын

That's Cool!! I really want to buy Face when I can afford it 😩!! I really love the album from Heart ❣️​@@JackpotArmy

This was a very intelligent & well researched video. Simply put, BTS has repeatedly said to trust them. They are not mere idols being manipulated by their company. They are shareholders of the company. RM even gave a presentation at Hybe's annual board meeting. What other idols have done that? We just have to trust that they are taking the lead in all their various promotions and support each member till they can reunite again.

@shirley-dt5rv

8 ай бұрын

Well said. The OT7 has said this that we have to trust & believe them in their Chapter 2 journey until their comeback in 2025.

@vmkoya4080

8 ай бұрын

Yes, agreed

congratulations to all the members of ''bts'' to open up the world to their individual unique styles. they and hybe are very smart to broaden the listening audience to ''bts, not only as a group but individually. no group has ever done this in history, to capture' the world by music. watch out for 2025!!!💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

I agree with you. i had already seen this video and agree too. Like you when they announced the solo projects i was totally along for the ride and excited to see what they put out. I have enjoyed all of it BECAUSE every project has been so different. Even before i got into BTS i listened to a big variety of music so this was perfect for me. I bugs me so much that people are complaining about favoritism and stuff like that. Because i take what the members say at face value. If they say that they were the ones that decided how and where they wanted to promote than that is exactly how i took it, than i just enjoyed they content they werr giving us. If they guys say to trust them, than that is what i am going to do. Must of the things i have problems about are not because of the members or because of Hybe. It is because of billboard or the Grammys or radio, which is not BTS' or Hybe's fault. I just want to support the guys the best i can and enjoy what they are giving us until the guys say from their own mouths that something else is going on behind the scenes. But they must all be happy and good with what they are doing because they all are resigning early with Big Hit. Also they are supporting each other and so proud of each others accomplishments. I feel the same. Everything that they have achieved so far with these solo projects i am so happy for them. I am exciting for JK'S album and for Jin's album when he gets back.

no matter what they do , they all would have my support !

Jungkook is not just doing this kind of music just for charts. The lyrics are not very complicated or deep. But he is trying to show a side of himself he haven't shown before. He said this too. The songs were written by others but he chose them for his liking. These songs represent him. This adult more sexy side is what he wants to show. Not to be on charts. No. It's a side he wants to show. And make music about. It's his personal taste. I hope people understand that. It's not just about going mainstream for him. Yes he wants to be a pop star. But he also is being himself. The adult himself. He has control over his decisions. And this is the direction he goes for because that's what he likes. People who paid attention to Jungkook's personality can understand.

@JackpotArmy

8 ай бұрын

Good point, he has been trying to show this new side of himself. With the new photoshoots he's doing, with these new songs, it's his own way of expressing himself during his solo project.

@sarahf7

8 ай бұрын

Right I hate when ppl say it’s meaningless & has no purpose just bc the lyrics aren’t about world peace lol. Showcasing a more mature side of himself by doing the music that he likes is the purpose & it doesn’t make him any less of a sincere artist

@lakshi9276

8 ай бұрын

@@JackpotArmy Yes. Btw if you see his zodiac chart it makes a lot of sense of him showing the sexual side of himself. I don't think about zodic stuff normally but i recently saw his and his chart makes a lot of sense with the image he has now. Jungkook said he likes extreme things too in an article recently. He's a virgo and Scorpio mars and libra venus. Trust me they are very sexy people. He's doing what he wants. And he's having fun. His music is fun. If ARMY wants different music listen to other members. It's easy. Maybe Jungkook will do something different or maybe not. But it's his decision.

@grammarpolice5208

8 ай бұрын

It's not just about going mainstream....I guess, but it is a main factor in his song choices and the current decisions he's making. After all, Jungkook told the world in his magazine interview his “one big goal” is to become a “giant pop star”.

@sarahf7

8 ай бұрын

@@grammarpolice5208 yeah no one’s denying he wants to be a huge pop star & he’s making big pop songs w/ a pop star roll-out. It’s just about ppl thinking it’s his sole purpose like he doesn’t also just enjoy the music he’s making & want to send a message that he’s not a innocent baby anymore. He’s not some chart-obsessed monster like some solo stans think he is lol

Thanks for your reaction,i love Bts and your honest reaction

Спасибо за Ваш анализ...и за поддержку нашего Чонгука❤ Он привык всегда все делать на Отлично..если выступать,то до изнеможения,пока не упадет.Есди соревноваться,то всегда быть лучшим..он перфекционист.А сейчас он идет к своей детской мечте-быть АРТИСТОМ МИРОВОГО МАСШТАБА..🎉🎉🎉

Taehyung himself said why he wanted mvs for all songs 1- he wanted everyone to listen to his full album not just one song 2- he wanted to show the images of his imaginations through mvs

@user-ek2eq5ng8x

8 ай бұрын

But Jimin did wanted all mvs too then why did not jimin got mvs that’s the question

@user-ek2eq5ng8x

8 ай бұрын

And it's definitely not taehyung's fault , it's just company is so unfair I mean they could give jimin mvs for his songs but they didn't but taehyung only ask that he want mvs and the company did not even question it? Isn't it weird

@btsarmyforever7851

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-ek2eq5ng8x well it's their strategy of promoting Well jimin didn't said that he want mv for his all song He wanted mv for Set me free pt 2 and like crazy And this strategy even works for his album

@vanisatheesh7595

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-ek2eq5ng8x i think it's because of the budget. Even though V has 5 MV it's so simple. For jimin's song i think it's needed more fund. I am not sure . This is what I think

@lisa-kz7uj

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@user-ek2eq5ng8xdo you even know if jimin suggested doing mvs for every song when discussing his album?? he could've said something about it casually on camera but we do not know how he planned his debut and if he even brought out the idea to the company....?

I agree with you regarding some ARMY comparisons to their bias. But, with the short two year which converted me to ARMY. My perspective is that PDBang and all BTS members have been strategic since their debut. Everything they do is strategic, and each member has a say in how their solo work is promoted. One thing for sure, each solo work is phenomenal for each different style in which each member has. Some ARMY must understand that these 7 young men, know and understand their solo vision and shouldn't underestimate their input into their individual promotion projects. They do have a say guys, and they do agree on their schedules and promotions. All solo work is important, we shouldn't be comparing them against each other.....they don't! so why should we? BTS members support each other wholeheartedly.

Taetae's album is non skip album filled with so much beautiful songs.

So what Boracity is telling me is they choose their own promotion based on the songs genre??? How can this people say that this member Dont want be successful and other member want be so sucessful because one said it and other don't dose not make them less ambitious or anything they work hard for those years for it

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

No, on target audience. Remember how long Namjoon and Yoongi struggled with becoming Idols because K-Hiphop culture looks down on them and makes fun of them. They have made a lot of vids about success and the BS it brings. Read the lyrics of "Wildflower", "Abyss" and "interlude: shadow" etc. to understand.

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

​​@@ruthfischer7615hip-hop is one of most consumed genre in US but fandom failed to give rapline big numbers lol. so maybe not blame the target audience or the genre.

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

@@nancysharma2096 In the US not globally. In fact the world has a lot of prejudice against Hiphop. Not to mention that Pop is still more liked (and Namjoon's album was more of an Indie album). Go on a new MV or BTS episode or trailer and sometimes you have to scroll a bit for the first English comment. A lot of the numbers are from international Armys/GP. There are vids/charts where viewers come from and the US is rarely number 1 but lucky if they are in the Top5. Yoongi was the first Rapper to have a million album sale on the first day. Think about what that means in numbers for other Hiphop artists.

@anastashiam1154

8 ай бұрын

​@@nancysharma2096 even if that is the case. They other members that have been more successful shouldn't be blamed. They've all done egat they want and promoted the way they want. It's out of any of their hands how the public and fans receive it. No member should be blamed and no success is the same or means the same

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

@@anastashiam1154 who tf even said members should be blamed ? 💀

Me as ARMY, I Just enjoy them!! Just that Simple!!💜😊

If solo promotions for all the members are done the same way as BTS promotions, from a business standpoint, the company would be glad to do it because that is what would make them the maximum profit. The fact that each member’s solo promotion is different and even unique, it means the company is listening/adhering to the members wishes for what they want/prefer to do for their solo promotions at this time. Each member wouldn’t do it if it didn’t make them happy. It’s common sense. In terms of timing, they are limited on time in general. If these stans hate it, then complain to the S.Korean government for forcing them and all able body men to go. They only complain because they don’t get exactly what THEY want from/for the member, and not exactly what the member wants. If you truly know the member and if you even take their lyrics seriously, you’d know this is not exactly what the member wants. RM, for example, they need to reread his lyrics and rewatch the Wildflower MV, and also Yun. Let him be human and do what he desires while having some freedom, before he has to go. He got to do exactly what he wanted, we should celebrate that and be happy for him. Stop trying to control the members, because first, you can’t, second, the member will hate that, and third, you don’t deserve that type of power over them.

@blarmy827

8 ай бұрын

THIS!!!!! Honestly I’ve seen nothing but the members being the members and getting to dive further into their interests… they didn’t want their promotions to be exactly the same… and they’re all right behind each other cheering each other on. This is about ppl being selfish and wishing their bias went another route, did a different style or music or promoted in a different market for their own selfish wants. The boys are so happy and always there with each other along the way behind the scenes. They flat out told us they wanted to be different at the festa dinner …. Why would be comparing them when that’s not what they wanted ?

I personally love V’s layover album. It’s no skip album and timeless music. As for me, his album was the best till now. I love J hope songs and Suga songs, but it cannot make me to buy their albums like V’s. JK’s golden will be a huge hit and I preordered it. ( because I’m JK’s fan)

Suga didn't want huge venue's he wanted the slightly smaller ones so he could interact with the audience easier which is what he did taking fans mobile phone's having little conversations with the fans etc etc.

That not true jimin say in interview he ask for two more my and they no it too and he said am sorry .he say it in a interview jimin was the hardest

Yes I loved that Jazz version Jimin did live it would have been lovely edition to the album so we hear it more often or if he brings it out as remix I'd quickly add it to my huge music list.

Thank you! For this now I know a lots and understand crearly

It was just over 120,000 the exact figure if I remember correctly when I last looked at the venue's website it said 120,098 or was it 120,089 sorry I can't quite remember now. His concert holds the Chicago Lollapalooza ticket record of all time.

THIS DISCUSSION STARTS ONLY THE TIME JK DROPS HIS SEVEN SINGLE EVERYONE MADE A DRAMA AND INSULT JK NAMES IN THE MOST DISCUSTING WAY EVER!!!! FROM CALLING HIS NAMES AND EDIT PHOTOS ETC.😡😩

@lisalo9034

8 ай бұрын

Jealousy killing them 😂

because jungkook always show his love to army..since the bts not complete he always make live he always updated to army

I agree with JK loving western pop music for years. I've always said I can see him moving to New York or LA after his military service and BTS events are over.

@eileencritchley4630

8 ай бұрын

Well I don't know about him moving I think he'll miss his home far too much. He might have a 'second home' like some artists have so they don't have to relay on hotels.

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

what did i just read 💀

Anyway, hello Jimtober 🎉

JIMIN DID A EXTRAORDINARY ALBUM AND HIS SUCCES WAS NOT BECAUSE HIS CUTE.. HIS VOICE IS UNIC AND HIS THE NEXT LEVEL ENTRETEIMENT ARTIST.

Sabotage are not. We went to a Best Buy store looking for Kim Taehyung's Layover albums and they were not on the shelves as the others. We had to asked the workers if they have the albums? They said yes and went to the back storage and brought them out for us. Why are Taehyung's albums not on the shelves for people to purchase? We knew to asked the workers if they carry the album. What about the people that didn't know to ask?

V did talk about his album and promotion in a live

@majag5117

8 ай бұрын

he also spoke about it briefly in Suchwita.

Longevity is important in the music industry also if you have songs that people find later they get more streams over the years and the artist is earning off those songs over and over again.

In the US(main or branch} the labels pay radio. streaming apps , tiktok YT etc so that their artists will have a huge reach while some Koream labels do so as well. Most of the Korean songs that have been charting for a long time in BB Hot 100 has this opportunuty. Now if Hybe US is the one promoting their artistS most likely they do it the Western way.

@blarmy827

8 ай бұрын

Not all US labels do this so to assume bc it’s US based that anybody is going to do this is ridiculous… it’s actually literally right in the numbers for the ridiculous Payola accusations… anybody with even a basic knowledge of music and charts gets that. For example, seven has been attacked and payola from the jump…. Now payola is ALL about paying for radio play in the US … now take a look for the numbers on the charts for Seven… he was number 1 on the bb hot 100 for 1 week…. And dropped to 28 the second week… HOWEVER he maintained the top spot on both the bb global and bb global excl the US for 8-10 weeks. The only difference in calculating these chart numbers…. Are US RADIO PLAY…. So the ONLY chart where radio is a main factor is the one chart he dropped on…. Bc it was just a hit lol ppl liked it globally and it’s topped the charts in the most random countries for months…. And none of that comes from payola. Payola would be an immovable song on top of the bb hot 100 if the streams and sales are proving a massive difference between a song and others. Seven stayed in the top 50 of the hot 100 with 20% of the radio play compared to all the songs competing for the top spots with him … there is literally viewable data. Also there are not a lot of artists that are going to be okay with payola.. and especially bc the data will expose them… and with seven it has been debunked over and over bc it logistically is completely false. All their music gets sent to radio stations in the US… always has.. but they choose what they want to play. Songs that have American producers and writers who are well known is going to drive interest in their tracks bc they already have the experience… like dynamite and butter played more on the radio than “life goes on” even though they came out around the same times…. But American writers and producers taking part in the songs… may cause some stations to play them… just like dynamite and butter. They don’t have to be paid to do this… just like BTS didn’t pay for those other English songs to be played… and jungkooks two songs are merely following music in BTS own path. Do you believe the dynamite payola and unethical business choices other groups accused BTS of just bc the songs were popular in western culture? No, everyone are up those numbers and records and proudly boasted them… but just bc jungkook followed the path he laid for himself ever since he started making English covers and singing live English songs with mature themes in his livestreams…. He’s the only member it makes sense with and it’s bc it’s always been his interest. Nobody had to do anything crazy to make that song a success. It’s a more commercial sound which he happens to like…. But also a sound more digestible globally. Nothing has changed

Boracity does have a video talking about the radio problem. Back in 2017 Army had a massive campaign to try to get US radio to play BTS''s music. It didn't work. Boracity explains why. She/they have lots of really good videos.

So..I am a 49 year old former professional singer, dancer and actress. I love BTS 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜and I support them because they won my heart with their music, their voices, their dancing and especially with their lyrics that had meaningful messages of love, unity and solidarity. Someone here wrote that it is not right to compare the solo works of the members among themselves. I disagree because this can't be done..Unless you are deaf or blind or 5 years old..a minor. Example when Jungkook for the song "seven" said: "That's me" and he means I like this music and this lyric, meaning he likes pop with rap elements and sexist lyrics.. right ???I noticed that too in "3D" so.?That is, the style of music and the lyrics with sexual content. I can't say that I'm happy with the lyrics, that is to hear in every song the great singer Jungkook talking to me about his interest in the sex game because I'm starting to bored..same content. So I will compare the songs of RM who has quality and substance in the lyrics but also quality in the music. I will do the same with the rest of the BTS members, that is, I will compare the words and the music of the songs, to decide which of all the artists touches my heart. How is it possible not to compare them??? That is, if tomorrow a song is released by a member of BTS where the music is not good and the lyrics send bad messages to the world, should I applaud? or not to compare with the songs and lyrics of any other member of the band whose songs will have meaning for society..

@lisalo9034

8 ай бұрын

One thing is sure those sexual content like you said are appreciated by many people that’s why he is the most successful in this solo era Why y’all hate him so much and like to shade him ?? It ´s not his fault if your biases are not successful without bts

@eileencritchley4630

8 ай бұрын

@@lisalo9034 Why are you accusing her of hate. She's explaining what gels with her and doesn't gel with her. Saying that's 'hate' is a just childish behaviour not mature thinking.

@anastashiam1154

8 ай бұрын

I get what you are saying but maybe you need to realise this is their solos... you mention you want the BTS songs you're used to Thats the opposite of what they want to show us. I for one love the music Jimin and JK are putting out. In JKs case he us showing a Sexier side which he couldn't being BTS maknae. Finally we get to see a 26yr old man not one having to do forced aegeyo. Also saying it's the same content is a bit premature when you've only heard 2 songs and not his whole album. Mind you both songs tastefully done. He said he wants to show his vocal range so I'd like to trust that he will show us a lot more. And if it does turn out that it's all sexual when then that's fine ,it's abt time he got to do what he wants. For most of us JK fans we waited 10 yrs for a glimpse of a solo from the Main Vocalist of BTS so we will take everything we can get. And ofc if it's not to your taste you have 6 other members to focus on

@eileencritchley4630

8 ай бұрын

@@anastashiam1154 I agree with almost every detail you said with one expectation I really do not like JH or his excuse for his rap so that really puts me off 3D. I've decided that I have to stay true to myself so I can only stream and support the alternative version. So that's what I'm doing.

@lisalo9034

8 ай бұрын

@@anastashiam1154 spilled 🔥

i just wish army treat bts like the grown adults they are i dont think any of them would accept being mistreated or something like that. people treating them like kids annoys me so much

all member's have renewed but for those in the military their contracts won't start until they leave the military as they can't legally work while serving. Psy for instance had to redo his military service because he did 'too many' things outside his military duty.

Jin wanted to go to the Army in summer because he hates the cold in winter and most of the 6 week training is done outside. I'm not sure, but I think the cold also bothers his hands. The concert in Busan was tied to their bid to perform at the 2030 World Expo which will be held in Korea. He was not forced to agree to wait, he chose on his own. Also he did not want his saying goodbye to coincide with the concert. He did this out of his love for Army. Incredibld.

i usually agree w all of her past videos but for this one had mixed thoughts. crazy she framed how certain members didn't want to be successful bc they weren't vocal and other wanted to & this has nthg to do w them choosing wtv promos or target audience or genre. tbvh jk solo project was well strategic. it's not bout other members being "mistreated" (far stretched) but more like hybe knew what they were doin w jk by givin him more budget/promos which is very business mind of them. you could tell seven will hit #1 the day it was first teased w scooter/producers along w tagline "bout to make history" either you have to be dumb or gaslighting yourself dat for not figuring out its very strategic move. bb sabotaged taehyung/jimin but they didn't do w jk considering he was pulling big numbers. like crazy hit #1 unexpectedly after bb sabotaged and the song fell of the chart hybe didn't even try to promote unlike what they did w seven/3d. i do agree members are involved in promos/album ofc but if you do some critical thinking its hybe who give or provide em opportunities so members could choose if they wanna do it or not. the decision wd be of members but it's bout lack of opportunities/exposure and selective push from label/fandom. (solos stans are dumb and weird. I despise em)

Great video and great discussion. When this Boracity video came out, I pasted it in the comments every time fan war became so heated you feel nauseous. I am not big on social media but from the ones I have been in, the most toxic fights are between the maknae lines fans. And dare I say it? They are mostly from a certain demographic which will remain unmentioned. The vicious insults thrown to each other AND the 3 youngest members are shocking with incomprehensible, kindergarten level storylines. It has become too personal, like as if their whole world will come crashing down if their bias isn't the best in something and then accusing the supposedly more successful members of foul play and being company's favourites. Sadly, they are too naive to realise that success is not all measured the same way, none of these guys are victimised and the successes of each one has been phenomenal in the their respective target markets.

Just respect what they want to do .

BTS already do more than any artists but the fact that some fans are still complaining is just cruel. Just trust them ..they aren't rookies either. They know what they are doing so let's just enjoy the flow.

Well, I'm glad some people are realizing there are plenty of favoritism not only by the company but also by the fandom. Give them all the same treatment and "tools" and i'm sure all of them will get similar results. At the end it's not about gp but onky about how many versions do you get for your songs to boost your streams. Sorry but I'm against this and it's weird to me the way armys have been glorifying this manipulations when they used to be against artists doing thr same tactics a year ago.

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I am disappointed with peoples who try to force their views on others especially ARMYs because the message BTS wants to share is to be open-minded. I discovered BTS with JK's Left and Right single and began to be a OT7 fans while listening to all their music but yes JK is still my bias and his solos work are more in line with what I like. It doesn't mean I don't like others members solo music or don't listen to it but it's just not the style of music I listen everyday. And it saddens me that people constantly criticize JK over his decisions for his solo career just because it has more global success or the lyrics are not meaningful enough or too "shocking". They underestimate the difficulty of creating such lyrics and downplay the talent of RM, not every song can be meaningful, you need inspiration for it. Only Jimin and JK tends to this Global Pop style of music so it's normal to touch more people and have more views or streaming and it's good for BTS as a whole because it allows more people to discover them. And in the end, the solos work are considered secondary to them, they use it to experience different things and develop themselves as artist before rejoining as a group when their military services will be over so it only makes sense that the style of every member's music will be different and not quite the same as BTS's music. Please don't criticize them for doing what they want but support what music they want to make if you like it, if you don't like it it's fine either but don't spread hate just because you don't like it personally, it's not in line with BTS's way of doing things. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

@eileencritchley4630

8 ай бұрын

It's mainly the solo stan's and those who are just out to cause problems because they want the Kpop groups they support and pretend to support one of the BTS men. These are the main 2 groups that pit one artist against another and shout the loudest about unfair treatment and are downright nastie to other members. These are the people that want to see BTS disbanded as then they think with BTS out the picture their Kpop group will take over. It's best to remember Solo stans and general BTS haters are not ARMY.

@anastashiam1154

8 ай бұрын

I discovered BTS through JK too and thought he had the most beautiful voice and face. Only to discover he was so young when he started but took on such huge responsibility and then watching all the extras he did while still being main vocalist, sub rapper, lead dancer and centre, doing most of the adlibs and song guides...I knew he'd be my bias for life. But though my journey I've watched everything abt BTS incl the Run episodes , In the Soop, Bon Voyage and I love all of them and every one of them special but it actually hurts to see JK get so much hate. I mean he helped Tae with Slow dancing Jimin with letters, helped Suga and these antis still find a way to hate on him for that. If they knew what BTS as brothers stood for they would know BTS would never want them as fans

@kunilsen2519

7 ай бұрын

You are totally right. JK has been my ultimate bias for years now and still is, and his solo stuff has rarely been to my personal liking. That doesn't mean it's bad, or that I hate his work/style, or is disappointed in any way. It's his voice I love, so I either grow to like his songs because of his voice. Or he covers a song I never used to love but now do because of him. And even if I dont grow to love a few of his works, that is fine as well. It just means he is doing what he wants. Anyone who has kept up with Jungkook knows he likes pop songs and has huge aspirations. He has been looking up to Western artists since before he signed with BigHit. Everything he is doing aligns with what he has expressed in the past. Same with every member. Their solo work AND promotions are all very personalized to them, it's clear to see. They get to do, experience, and express what they want. Just because the lyrics aren't super deep doesn't mean the song has no meaning or has no love in it. And just because works that are super deep don't have the same success as a pop song does not mean it was not still super successful. Everything has its own place that you can't compare. It's like expecting cats and dogs to be equal in each other's skill attributes. A dog can't balance and climb like a cat, doesn't mean it is a failure or lacks care/discipline lol 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

Solo stans don't even trust their favorite member... SOLO STANS ARE NOT ARMY

@eileencritchley4630

8 ай бұрын

True how can you call yourself part of ARMY if you don't support all the members as a whole. ARMY is BTS fandom it's not the Fandom for 1 single solo member. Solo stans are not ARMY.

Correct not supposed to it's illegal however that's what happens with US radio. There have been plenty of news report come out in the US about it. Even a court case. However the majority of American don't know anything about it. Even US artist have spoken about it.

I think one of the reasons is that there was a big difference in support. I as Army feel even if doing solo projects they are still BTS and should've had the same Army support. also their label is Big Hit music. Hybe is the corporation.

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

Genre is the problem, too. The GP does not listen to Hiphop for example as much as to Pop. And it is im majority vibers/GP that drive up numbers besides the streamers (they are responsible for first day/week/month number but stream a lot less later). Boracity explained "target audience" rather well. Think also of how K-Hiphop artists usually don't respect Idol rappers at all: "You are only a rapper because you can't sing" Nevermind that there are a few rappers than do both: G-Dragon (I think), Jessi, Zico, BTS rapline, Stray Kids rapline (&Jay Park) come to mind among others Try to watch "The Rise of Bangtan" documentary. They have pretty early I believe one of those crashes but also later if I remember correctly. I think "Form of Therapy" once had a podcast to the music SK is actually listening to. bby gang mag certainly has a vid: "you are wrong about K-pop" and maybe "BTS vs. K-pop" I don't quiet remember which video essay it was in.

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

​@@ruthfischer7615armys alone carried bts korean songs on charts in west + rapline songs didn't even do good enough in domestic charts + indigo didn't hit 1M on hanteo it almost been a year. the biasness is pretty clear.

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

​@@nancysharma2096 By the GP? Sure. When something trends people look it up and give it a try. So success generates more success but if it is more experimental it won't trend as easy. Not to mention that Pop audiences are far more impressed by numbers than a Hiphop audience. Why? The Hiphop audience is more interested in "authenticity" and feels like Pop can NEVER do that. bby gang mag may help you with some of that, too. or "A Brief History of Korean Hip-hop" on Vulture by T.K. Park and Youngdae Kim

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

@@ruthfischer7615 you realize i talked bout fandom biasness. i dont expect damn locals buy indigo gurl and the domestic charts are easy enough to pull by armys alone like cmon now. idc if hip-hop audience is impressed w numbers or not. its from fandom perspective knowing damn well we keep goals for each cb.

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

@@nancysharma2096 Why, gurl? Indigo had one variant. Some of the others had more. I don't buy multple albums - but I do buy the varients. That also changes numbers. It is always MORE than the fandom involved. Not to mention that not everyone can buy. There is are also the solo fanclubs (like the infamous C-Bars) and I have seen more of those for the vocalline than for the rapline. So i push this on GP, varients of the album, places that sell albums and solos.

Tae told armys ecactly what he wanted he wanted an intimate release not big and showy he wanted army to feel one on one with him

@Beary95

4 ай бұрын

The same armies that are saying the album is boring?

@sugakookie7985

4 ай бұрын

@@Beary95 I haven't encountered any Armys saying that but if they don't like it that's okay it's very different from BTS they still buy the album.

Armys spent for month trying to convince people that layover is not pop so that’s why they don’t want to stream and now they’re saying it’s pop cuz they rather licked that company’s azz. amis and that company are his biggest antis fr

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

no one is saying its layover is pop

In my opinion, if JK were to release the normal BTS song with deep and serious meaning, how do you expect him to pull a lot of new international fans?. It can be done but might take longer time and time is not the luxury they have right now. What BTS members doing in their solo era is divide and conquer. Come on, these men have been staying together for a long time. They know each other's strength and weaknesses. That's probably why they go different styles targeting different audience. If you are going to have legendary comeback after the military, you need to ensure you gain new fans while maintaining the current ones and that being done while not releasing music as a whole group. I hope army will trust and respect BTS decision. We are not in their place to know the actual thing that happened among them. They might not get everything they asked but in the end, this is what they agree. I don't think anybody putting a gun to their head to force them. They're professionals and well versed of what they're doing.

@user-uh4rt5tm8g

8 ай бұрын

I agree that divide and conquer approach is what BTS and company are doing. If the members are happy, then we will continue to support. The issue now is the schism between Army caused by the solo era. The muddy waters of alleged sabotage and favoritism claims are due to Hybe/BH’s lack of transparency, lack of professionalism and clear incompetence. Worse, there’s perceived apathy to some glaring and high impact issues experienced by certain members during their solo music drops. Rational level headed Army/fans are questioning all the above rather than who controls creative process, promotions etc. We agree members control the creative side of creating music and the promotions. Logistics, media blitz, social media push, playlisting etc; that is all company’s job. Which they have been executing poorly in ONLY some of the members’ debut

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

@@user-uh4rt5tm8g 🙄 You either didn't watch the video essay or you didn't understand it. There is really no lack on the labels part at least not more than a simple mistake made by a human or two. BTS has never done handholding at the latest you can see it when they dropped Wings but even before that they expect you to use your brain. So does the label. The question should be (when you don't understand something): what am I not seeing? and not "Sabootage! Sell out! Incompetence!" Please stop projecting your lack of knwoledge on them and try to find answers by either thinking it through or by letting people like boracity explain.

@user-uh4rt5tm8g

8 ай бұрын

@@ruthfischer7615 First of all, yes I did watch it. You got confused as the comment I wrote above is in response to the original commenter and not my take on the video. My thoughts on the video is written elsewhere as my own comment. Secondly, thanks but no thanks for your unsolicited advice on ‘letting other people explain’ As an adult who can think for themselves, I do my own research and make conclusions based on that. I’d rather do that than being a sheep, and swallowing whatever information that I deem as relevant just because it comes from someone with a KZread channel. No shade to Boracity channel, I enjoy watching their videos and these have been quite informative. Thirdly, if you only know of one or two instances in which Hybe/BH blundered during the solo debut drops, you are the one who does not understand or have enough facts. The amount of f-ups occuring during Face and Layover, and to lesser extent the other solo debuts, are unacceptable for a trillion won conglomerate. As a small business owner (far far lower in scale to Hybe/BH), if a similar number AND type of errors/issues/problems/whatever you want to call it, happened here, and was not mitigated in a timely and effective manner, it would not be labelled as human error, it’s incompetence and/or sabotage

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

@@user-uh4rt5tm8g Cute. Except I did mean it and it IS about BH/HYBE. Is this still about cake? Or are we now talking about album sale drops? Which happened to Seventeen, TXT, Exo, aespa & Stray Kids, too. It's not that special. Especially since Taehyung's C_bar tried to prove their buying power by mass buying 800 000 (?) albums at once last minute. They made themselves look stupid because it was illogical to believe that that many albums where in storage at the named shops the minute they ordered at once. They are people not robots. Park Jiyoung is not sitting in his office debating if he should drop a certain line on social media or who to sabotage - that is not his job. Someone responsible on social media accounts/the members is/are doing that. Not to mention if you really wanted to buy the album you could buy it elsewhere. It was offered on so many plattforms and shops. Lets also mention that you seem to misstake trouble of plattforms like Spotify or Billboard is the labels fault. Which - newsflash - it is not. SK is small but has a lot of artists and every artist seems to have made new personal sales records while more artists dropped. I would not be surprised if it was impossible to actually satisfy the amount of CDs ordered. It also may be still trouble with the global product traffic since those take a long time to get normal after Covid (especially with what happened in China during the pandemic). There was a lack of basic material for album production and that may have still consequences. They don't have to tell you every detail from the smallest production delay to every social media post. Not to mention you seem to forget something really important: Music is not the Olympics. You should enoy the members music and not compare them constantly: you only make yourself ill with that. They don't owe you anything. Just enjoy their art. So please prove yourself an adult and THINK about it and wonder what you don't see and how it really works. Because I'm under the impression you are trying to "whiteknight" them and that makes you sound like a wannabe slave owner. It's frankly exhausting.

@user-uh4rt5tm8g

8 ай бұрын

@@ruthfischer7615 Aww thanks for the compliment and; my partner and our adorable kids think I’m extremely cute too😊 Your comments are filled with subtexts, catch phrases and assumptions. Me, I’m direct, what I write is what I mean. So I will take your comments at face value as I don’t assume things especially about someone I don’t personally know. It’s pretty clear we won’t agree on the matter, and that’s cool. We agree to disagree and go happily on our way. You can continue to air your opinions and ask those who disagree with you to listen to ‘more learned people’ or ‘to think more’. While I am definitely not going to stop sharing mine, and will continue to have meaningful discussions with logical, rational individuals. One thing you and I agree on (which you would have known if you read my other comments and not assume things) is that numbers, charts etc mean much less to me than how the music makes me feel, and think. If I were, per your assumption, ‘a wannabe slave owner’/‘white elephanting’ BTS, to achieve records, my barometer of success would be Face and 7 & 3D. Those are absolutely not! In fact, I rank the above releases as 6th & 7th out of all members. My personal favs are Layover and DDay, because of the subject matter and how it touches me. If based on critical analysis, Indigo trumps it all. I also agree that, it’s ‘frankly exhausting’ to have a to and fro when one talks about one issue and the other replies about something irrelevant to the topic at hand. So I won’t be responding after this. Have a lovely day, borahae💜

V's song always unique an best ❤

As I always saying jk has no promotion in Korea it's just the appearance on inkigayo but still seven number on melon and how many awards did he received in Korean with the song seven and they still kept on complaining because not every member were successful? I mean breaking records.common even each member didn't complain they actually complemented each other

Each bts members was given control over their solo solo. They decided their own promotion and who they work with. All bts members are individuals . They have different styles and music genre. We most respect it.

It was sad to see how solo stans comparing and talk bad on other members. We are lucky the members has tight bonds. All these talks about unfair treatment are based on their personal assumptions..so immature

Junkook may favourite ❤

According to her taehyung wanted npop's 60k subscribers to watch his performances

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

Yes, and? It's far more intimate and you don't need to be a subscriber to watch it.

@HiHello-tz5ez

8 ай бұрын

@@ruthfischer7615 ik its a good show but it's not good for promotional purpose, only armys or the subscribers are gonna watch it not many new people will come and watch

@majag5117

8 ай бұрын

@@HiHello-tz5ez right, so it's fair to assume not everything they do is for the masses

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

@@HiHello-tz5ez There are quiet a few people who won't listen to anything "mainstream". Taehyung would have dropped a different album if he wanted the fast, one time attention of the GP that does not care. The album is very good but if you are not an outright lover of the genre - and the big mass isn't - you will have no interest in the music. A small/new show is more "intimate" and attracts possibly also an older audience of real music lovers. Fast success does not last and is often looked down on for a reason. Which is a reason why for example Namjoon loves different kinds of arts so much: because it lasts, is not a "firework". Taehyung's album is in a genre that can last. But the "GP" does not actually listen to music nor do they care about an artist. It is not a bad choice for what Taehyung seems to want. "I want to be human before I make some art."

@HiHello-tz5ez

8 ай бұрын

you all aren't understanding Rm felt sad bcs he thought fans didn't liked his work and the reason is clear why he thought this is bcs many armys just assume things like, RM doesn't care abt streams he only care about music, when every single artist cares abt achievements by his works that's a way to check if people are liking your work or not, jimin wanted 3 mvs for his album but the company said no, you can literally find so many things like this but still people can't get half of the fandom isn't ot7 they're, 2-3 members biased, they just put hyung line photos on their pfp so no one will question them are they army

Yeah, it's true that the members as solo artists are pretty different and that's how their promotions and decisions will be. I hope this video had clarified some confused Armies asking why they are not promoting in the same places, etc. Oh and solo stans shouldn't immediately throw hate to the company or the other members because the guys are pretty involved in their own artistic decisions and everything. All those complains can make them upset, frustrated or sad like it happened to Hobi. Like Yoongi said "for those people complaining that BigHit didn't use a good budget for his music video for people pt.2, etc GET OUT!" And first of all, don't call yourself an army if you don't support all the 7 members and even worse, if you hate them because we all know here that they love and support each other so much, they will never do anything bad or interferes in each others solo careers on purpose so don't be ridiculous. I'm so proud of them! they have released so many diverse and good quality music and other content too so shut up! Army is really well fed (we are really the luckiest fandom) and we should be grateful for that. The tannies are amazing artists and great human beings. 💜

JK has been very vocal in his interviews abt wanting to conquer different genres and be a Pop star making a full English album so it really bothers me that hes getting hate for being successful and knowing what he wants. And if his success or lyrics offend you then dont listen. All the members have different goals and doing what they want. Show respect and support for all of them or change the channel.

@julianne7397

8 ай бұрын

Don't they know that JK's success and popularity is giving plus points for BTS? Non ARMYs are actually getting intrigued about KPop because of Dreamers... Some people are just plain jealous...it's a pity...

I'm a BTS fan. I love them as BTS.. as a whole. But when it comes to solo project, I only love Jimin's songs. I'm sorry V and JK, eventhough I'm also your fan but I.....songs. But it's ok, billion of others love your songs....😊

All bts said in their interview they did what they wanted to do.

I wouldn't be suprised if Jin as he's the first out of military service might put out an a solo album then as he'll have time while the other's are still serving. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

JK’s has the most solo fans. And with the covers he made over the years, he reached out to the people outside of the fandom and has built up a big audience who has been eagerly waiting for his music. Like BTS collabaration with Lauv or their collab stage in 2018 with Charlie happened thanks to JK’s covers. The minute 14 July got announced the tweets about his album got tons of attention even outside of the fandom. Everyone was waiting for him. During Seven release, he faced with wrong KZread, Apple Music, Spotify credits. Even on İTunes he faced with the wrong credits. And His sales got deleted because of this. Also everyone mentions radio but all the songs got send it to the radios. It’s just goes to the stations for a test run. Since they are not western artist, for radio to play their songs, they have to get requested a lot. JK’s Seven got choosed the #1 most wanted song on radio in Rate The Music. Rate The Music is a database where radio stations checks out to see which song audience wants them to play. And this happened thanks to JK’s radio fanbases. Ppl are complaining that JK did radio interview but Yoongi did radio interviews too. And Hobi did it during Lolapooza too so it wasnt only JK. Also JK always pushes the boundraies with his music or with his image (tattoos, piercings etc). He always breaks that kpop idol mold. I’m so proud of the choices jungkook has made for his solo era. he's pushing boundaries relative to his experiences of growing up in the industry as "the maknae," subverting expectations and projections, while being 100% authentic to his goals and dreams. he's hitting every mark. the thing is, just go and watch a live of him from 2016 and you’ll see him talk about many of the things he's showing us now. jungkook is simply expressing the person he's grown into and the things he likes, the person many tried to ignore or project on for their own satisfaction. So glad he doesn’t tries to fit into what industry wants from kpop idols or feeds fans expectations. This is why he’s going to be even more successful because he doesn’t put on a fake persona to And continues to do whatever he wants.

@emaa.926

8 ай бұрын

Personally, I don't think Jk is the most popular or has the most solo fans, his audience is probably very young and is the target of livestreams from bed, tiktok videos and sneaky cigarettes. The huge investment the company has made in Seven doesn't show much confidence in Jk to come up with the numbers on his own. When it comes to the music industry, don't kid yourself, it's all about wheeling and dealing.

@h.mreacts7060

8 ай бұрын

​@@emaa.926jungkook is the most popular

@ugh5281

8 ай бұрын

@@emaa.926 everyone knows that jungkook has always been one of the most popular bts members, if not the most popular. your comment seems pretty shady towards jungkook saying stuff like "his audience is probably very young and is the target of livestreams from bed".. there will obviously always be a lot of younger armies or jungkook fans, but his aduience is not all young, most of the army/jungkook biased is adult. you and some ppl say that to use it as some sort of insult bc in their eyes jungkook can't possibly have a "mature audience" compared to the other members, it's kind of weird... it's like trying to say that only immature ppl like jungkook whereas highly educated mature ppl like the older members, this narrative is stupid and only a way to bring down JK. plus his lives in bed, folding laundry, singing, etc.. are just a way to connect with fans, he found a way to connect with the fandom in which he is able to show his true self and feel comfortable and that's something rare to find nowadays, not just in idols but in celebrities. i find it pretty admirable that he has broken the barrier that exists between idol and fan... idk what you're talking abt in terms of numbers or company investment but jungkook's solo songs have always pulled huge numbers even prior to him going solo. some people just can't accept the fact that jungkook does well on his own and find him a "threat" in his own group due to his popularity so they come up with all sorts of stupid excuses to explain why he's successful and try to downgrade his success, which is exactly what you're doing.

@emaa.926

8 ай бұрын

@ugh5281 My point regarding the young audience is only to say that, in my opinion, this is the reason why his livestreams and other videos have a lot of views, because the very young audience consumes a lot of this type of content. But it is not a marker of global popularity. That doesn't mean he doesn't have older fans but, given the reactions, the comments, his videos which have the most engagement, it's not the music that is at the heart of the interest. He said his goal is to become a giant pop star, good for him, apparently that's also the goal of the company which uses all the more than shady tools of the music industry to make people believe in success. Personally, that's not what I expect from an artist. So yeah my words were perhaps a little bitter, but because I would have liked a more artistic chapter 2 from Jk and not this commercial soup.

@ugh5281

8 ай бұрын

@@emaa.926 no, it's not because "the very young audience consumes a lot of this type of content", it's because people genuinely enjoy his lives. he's the only member doing 4+ hour lives while singing, cooking, being his funny entertaining self and even sleeping... it's something that none of the bts members do and even outside of bts and kpop, it's pretty rare to see any celebrity do this kind of thing and being this kind of transparent and intimate with fans so people will obviously be attracted to that kind of content and will want to tune in... you're bound to feel more connected to the celebrity with this type of content. i mean, do you even have any proof that the majority of people that consume his lives are "very young" or are you just making a big assumption that fits your narrative? ... "apparently that's also the goal of the company which uses all the more than shady tools of the music industry to make people believe in success" what does that even mean? you're just saying stuff without any clarification about what you actually mean. what exactly is "artistic" to you? he hasn't even released his album and ppl are already losing their minds at his solo success. he has always wanted to do pop music and it's exactly what he is doing (at least for his 2 singles, we'll have to wait and see what his album will be about). i mean taehyung just released his album and none of the songs on his album are written or produced by him but because his style tends to lean a bit more into alternative pop and r&b people will claim "it's art" whereas JK even if he produced all songs on his album himself, as long as they're mainstream pop, they'd never be seen as "art" for some. this is just how the fandom works, if a song is written by bts, has a deep meaning, and is either rap or a more alternative sound it's considered a masterpiece but if they release a fun song without talking about army, mental health or some socio-political issue, i makes it automatically bad and disappointing. i don't have that same mentality fortunately. this chapter 2 is meant for them to explore their individual sound and to experiment and i'm gonna let JK do his thing, like i did for the other members. this outrage towards JK's solo path that you and some have seems to come from a place of jealousy towards his success tbh.

There are fans focused on SOLO stans....don't blame their company, BTS RM kimnamjoon received less attention than others, in all social media platform some fans support only who they want.... I always support and love BTS RM kimnamjoon in all he does, he earned my respect and trust❤ since trainee days BTS Rapline were the most active in creating lyrics music...just watch all The Rise of Bangtan episodes., Bangtan Subs episodes etc. BTS members have their own style in promoting their solo albums...

Some people think the only measure of success is charting on billboard, whereas targeting a long term audience is a better option for genres other than western style pop. The idea that the members are too stupid and that their own company is trying to sabotage them (and themselves) is so insulting to both the members and their staff who have done everything they can to support the members. In Suchwita. Both V and Suga were saying that their staff should have their salaries doubled! Some so called fans need to get over themselves - BTS and their company know far more about the music industry than we do. BTS are total professionals and have re-signed for the second time with their label so obviously they would not do that if they were unhappy. Why do we need to be arrogant enough to think that we know better than they do and that they need to be saved.

@nancysharma2096

8 ай бұрын

"charting on bb,target audience" its yall way to settle w low numbers w hyung line lmao. yall will throw rapline writing credits in fanwars and then fail to give em numbers & support. the way yall talk bout how their music is so good i wd expect they be doin big numbers lol. whether you like it or not numbers speak at the of the day.

Jk two song was not his they give him he also say they ask him and after he read it he like it

@Realistic-ft4fc

8 ай бұрын

Tae didn't write his songs either. jimin told PD Dogg what he wanted written and the produced wrote. As JK wanted English and he could not write well in English he got songs from others. There is nothing wrong with that. There are many singers that don't write their own music.

They have different styles of promotion but the company failed to do their part Its really not fair

Jimin wanted more MV Co said no Jimin said

@JackpotArmy

8 ай бұрын

I saw that clip and understand why a lot of people got upset. But after thinking about it I realized we are missing many details on how that happened. We don't know if Jimin had a serious meeting with them about it or if it was something he said jokingly. And if he was serious, we don't know why the company said no. If Jimin or HYBE never explain this further than we can only just continue to make assumptions.

@nicoleloss7987

8 ай бұрын

People seem not to know that all 7 bts members are shareholders in hybe.

@ruthfischer7615

8 ай бұрын

@@JackpotArmy In all likelyhood it is because of budget and possibly the schedule he was on. Jimin's MVs were extremly expensive while Taehyung's with the exception of Slow Dancing where cheap but tastefull. Jimin may have spend for SMFP.2 as much as Taehyung for the 4 other MVs put together of maybe even more.

@eileencritchley4630

8 ай бұрын

@@ninokhvedelidze6084 Stop buying into this false narrative that members were saboutaged by their company that's doesn't even make economic sense. No company is going to on purpose do that to their artist as they would mean less money going into the company. Especially from their biggest money makers who are also Shareholders and have been offered seats on the Board of Directors. Do you really think the BTS members who have been in the industry for over 10years now who all have degree's that are contacted to the Industry would resign with a company that was saboutaging them? That's an insane thing to do and BTS members are not insane they are talented, intelligent veteran artists and industry business men,

@WillTheRealBishPleaseStandUp

8 ай бұрын

“Naive to believe without seeing every side of the topic” - i guess you should tell yourself that too. Do you know the other side or are you making judgments based only on the side you chose to see?

Who here doesn't follow pop music and never has I don't I find it boring and bland.

Jungkook’s unpromoted 3 year old song Still With You does better than other members fully promoted songs. Euphoria is the most streamed solo songs in Bts albums. So Idk what this fandom was expecting in chapter 2? Jungkook has the most solo fans outside the fandom. And he is the most popular. Seven didnt get any different promo than the other members. Anything Jungkook does gets more attention. Ofc he was going to have the best debut. His Suchwita episode is the most watched Suchwita episode ever. And got trended on Korea for days. Was that also “a favoritism”? His Weverse lives is always the most watched. His inkigayo performance gone viral on Korea and trended on KZread, Naver, Nate Pann etc. Basically in every korean platform. Was that also because of a “favoritism”? Other members each got two luxury brand deals and attented fashion weeks. Meanwhile Jungkook got Calvin Klein. Not a luxury brand. Yet his Calvin campaign was the one who gone viral. Other members has got tons of magazines. Didnt made any noise outside the fandom. Meanwhile Dazed magazine was JK’s first ever solo magazine and the cover got viral. Was that also a “favoritism”?? Even Jungkook’s weverse live recipe gone viral in Korea. Was that also a “hyb favoritism” ? Like it’s so hilarious watching other members akgaes making up fake stuff to cope with Jungkook’s success. Everything this boy does gets attention. What were yall expecting? If you ask people outside of the fandom who is a soloist material in BTS, they would all say Jungkook. Some ppl thrives and shows themselves better in a group setting and some ppl thrives as a solo. Jungkook is the second one. Meanwhile members are the first one. Every member after their first solo stage talked about how hard it was as a solo. Meanwhile Jungkook loves doing solo live stages. This is the man who puts up 4 hour long solo concerts on his lives. And makes even other fandoms to join his lives. Ofc he was going to have the best debut.

@majag5117

8 ай бұрын

I agree with you, however saying that for other members performing solo is hard but Jk loves it, kinda bothers me. Something being hard doesn't mean they don't love doing it. Each member was excited to perform and meet army in person. I doubt that if he didn't love performing Suga would have gone on a whole tour. So yeah, something being hard doesn't mean it's not enjoyable for them or they don't love it. I'm sure they all love it and they all have something they find hard in it. Also it hard to compare having a "concert" on a livestream and a festival concert with choreo for example. Another thing, what do you mean by saying members don't thrive solo? They all grow as a humans and as an artists and they all had pretty good results with their solo releases. They were all thriving while being in bts, but the solo endeavors gave them opportunities to thrive more and that's what they did. That was the whole purpose of going on hiatus and pursuing solo music.

@tyrantmaloka1273

8 ай бұрын

But why are lying everything bts members do goes viral not only jungkook goes viral now you are capping

@Realistic-ft4fc

8 ай бұрын

@@majag5117 Jimin has said that he is not a solo artist. he is a group artist. he prefers working as a group.

@majag5117

8 ай бұрын

@@Realistic-ft4fc okay? you can still prefer to be in a group and enjoy making your own music and performing. Jimin could have just not released his songs, but he still did. everytime, he called it his solo debut. that makes him a solo artist. they all talk about returning to the group and that and army, being their first priority, so I don't get what your comment brings to this.

@Realistic-ft4fc

8 ай бұрын

@@majag5117 I just mentioned what Jimin said. Nothing more. Yes everyone tried doing solo. During this solo era when going solo means you do everything alone, from performing to promotions to creativity. As BTS even when they sing solo they are with each other like being backstage to interactions, etc. JK was not comfortable without members during the FIFA World Cup, but that experience has given him strength and confidence. Each member is different and comfort levels are different. Jimin is the only one who mentioned that he is not a solo artist. so I mentioned it. I know all the members are more comfortable and like being as a group.

A Hybe quer tirar o foco em Tae, lançando músicas aleatorias de JK, que aliás, nem são de autorias dele, JK só canta e dança !