One thing that never made sense to me was why Paris was so fixated on the newspaper, being editor, writer both in high school and college when it had absolutely nothing to do with what she wanted to be career-wise. I'm sure the answer is for extracurriculars and to beef up her resume, but it seems like the writers of the show just wanted to ensure Paris had something to butt heads with aspiring writer Rory over.

@Girlwithafoxhat4

5 ай бұрын

Paris is probably aware of how unlucrative being a Journalist is and just wants to have fun while she’s in school and has the opportunity. The problem is she can’t allow herself to have fun without it being a competition. I think she might’ve wanted to be a journalist if it wasn’t for her need to be seen in a prestigious field.

@mrdad-zl9zl

5 ай бұрын

I think it's a mix of Paris personality and as you said the need to give them an ongoing conflict since she is a character in a dramedy spanning many seasons and not an actual person.

@lilianbeeh6778

5 ай бұрын

Paris had two aspirations: medical doctor and lawyer. Being the editor of the paper would be great for both, especially law school.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

The type of writing that is required of a lawyer or law student is however very different from the work that Paris would be required to do as an editor of a newspaper. The legal writing that I had to do in law school was very specific and concise. We had to learn a new style of writing. Legal writing was required of first year students because it was very different from what people are used to and we had to reprogram ourselves to write differently. The editorial work for a law school journal is also very different from the work required at a newspaper. It's all about the right case citations and following the blue book format. I'd say that journalistic writing is quite the opposite from legal writing. Being on a journal while in law school is looked at very favorably by law firms but being an editor at a newspaper is not a position that law schools would consider in an applicant.

@user5639ghty

5 ай бұрын

I did a lot of extracurricular work as a volunteer in non medical field while being a med student. It happens relatively often. People just may have different interests that’s all I’m saying 😊

Paris has cptsd, she’s in survival mode, she has rejection sensitivity, she has chronic anxiety, she has severe self worth and abandonment issues, she has periods of intense emotional dysregulation when triggered and then prolonged dissociation, she’s both insufferable and sympathetic, she’s both loyal and selfish, she represents the kind of rage and ambition women are rarely allowed to display on television, she’s both humbled by fate and rallies against it, she keeps failing and picks herself up again and again, shes both intensely fragile and completely indomitable, she never gets what she wants short term but as a year in the life proves, her persistence and resilience pays off, never has a character been equally admired and pitied, she’s resists labelling as good or evil and exists entirely in the grey, and that kind of writing is worth applauding.

I don't understand why anyone would think Paris is a loyal friend, she turns on Rory countless times for the slightest whisper of "betrayal"

@Aly_224

5 ай бұрын

It’s crazy people think Paris is an amazing friend and Rory is the devil. Like have you met Paris ? I love her but she isn’t this amazing friend y’all make her out to be

@mirelasemanjaku

5 ай бұрын

She made Rory her punching bag.

@lizzy-wm5po

5 ай бұрын

She could just be super insecure -I would know, I sort of flip out when I think my friends “betray” me (obviously not like Paris, but still sorta just give them the silent treatment)

@myas.6485

3 ай бұрын

@@lizzy-wm5po girly that's not a good thing, like i get you, but

@lizzy-wm5po

3 ай бұрын

@@myas.6485 oh obviously i know it's not good 😭 i've been working on it bc i know it's an issue. it's never anything as severe as paris, though like i said

"It must be so exhausting to live in Paris's body" - 100% why I sympathize with her 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

A very loyal friend doesn't kick you out with no notice.

@doesitmatterwhoiam8838

5 ай бұрын

Paris did not deserve Rory.

Paris reads very BPD to me (borderline personality disorder) which would track with her background as well. That is a truly debilitating disorder that causes all emotions to be dialed to 1000 all the time and emotions can shift at the drop of a hat. As someone who has lived with a family member who has BPD, it can also be very draining for the people around them and requires a lot of patience and love. No one would want to be Paris, but very few people could be a friend to her like Rory either. Rory is human and has her own flaws, but she is unfairly vilified by the fandom.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

I haven’t met anyone with BPD but I’ve read accounts of people who have BPD and that’s the condition that I thought of as well when I was watching Paris. There is something about her mood swings that feels uncontrollable.

@fallenpheonixrising

5 ай бұрын

@@PensiveWhiskers uncontrollable paranoia is also part of the disorder which you touched on really well in your character breakdown.

@moon_on_the_clouds

5 ай бұрын

Yeah as the video was rolling I had the same thought - Paris is very much BPD coded. Like you said that her emotions are so extreme and because of the neglect and abandonment she has experienced because of her parents, it makes sense why she treats rejections and Rory’s “betrayals” at a much more serious level than we do. It does take a lot of patience and love to maintain a stable relationship with someone with BPD

@vntajones

5 ай бұрын

My aunt has it

@Vampjier420

5 ай бұрын

I have BPD and I relate so much to Paris when she has outbursts because I know that feeling of loss of control and not knowing how or what to feel so you just feel everything all at once and it’s too much. And the self sabotaging is 100% something I know I do as well which I’ve been told is something a lot of people with BpD do

Agree with all of it. Another factor i think is also the trajectory bias...if a character starts off as a good character that develops flaws, we criticize those harsher than a character who starts off bad but develops good parts.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Yes! Absolutely, if we see a character change over time, we start to forgive their past behavior because they are different now. Paris’ attitude towards Rory changed so her past actions towards Rory are viewed a bit differently.

It's always funny that people trash Rory, but love Paris. Rory must have wide-open heart chakra to deal with her, because Rory never belittles Paris nor does Rory disrespect her own boundaries. I do find Paris sympathetic because she is most definitely living in her own private hell, and I like that you treated her with compassion while holding her accountable.

@gabrielleduplessis7388

5 ай бұрын

I wonder if it is the same issue with susan v. Gabby. Many people love Gabby, but hate Susan on Desperate Housewives. While I love Gabby, I never justifies most of her decisions, but love the little arcs along the way. With Susan, she always acts like she is the most moral, but constantly makes reckless decisions. Gabby doesn’t deny who she is, but Susan acts like an angel who can do no wrong, but makes crappy decisions that harm people. I feel this why people love Paris because she never denies who she is. I feel Rory acts like she is the best and can do mo wrong and I feel does not learn from her mistakes. I don’t know how to go deep into that here, but think this is why people see them this way.

@doesitmatterwhoiam8838

5 ай бұрын

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 I wouldn't like either Gabby or Susan in real life. Susan's too codependent, which usually means you can't trust her because she's always going to manipulate you to get what she wants and play the victim. I like Gabby as a character, but I have a hunch I wouldn't like her as person. I don't remember show enough to say why. I guess it's for the same reason, I think she'd throw me under the bus to get what she wants. She just wouldn't play the victim afterwards like Susan. I would like Rory as a person and as a character. Yes, she's not perfect, but I think she genuinely cares about her friends. Sometimes she's a bit distant and little self-absorbed, but she doesn't do it a malicious way. If I was Lindsay, I wouldn't like her very much, but they were never really friends, and yes, I have to admit she thinks she still owns a guy even after they break up. If she didn't have flaws the show would be so boring. Paris would utterly terrify me. She's hilarious, and I can actually relate to her, although I hope I'm not as overbearing as her. But, I know what it's like to be overly emotional and do impulsive things that cost me.

@MariaPerez-fy5xk

5 ай бұрын

Paris FEELS fucks up and excel due to hard work. Rory is a condescending (but subtle and socially acceptable) know it all. As an adult she didn’t attack Rory, she grew up from Being a mean teen …. Rory regressed and became an entitled and annoying millennial

@doesitmatterwhoiam8838

5 ай бұрын

@@MariaPerez-fy5xk I usually can't stand condescending know-it-alls even when they do it in a subtle way. Show Rory, in my opinion, didn't exemplify those traits. Reunion Rory was something else. I pretend like the reunion didn't happen; it was just a disaster due to bad writing and a lack of imagination. I'm actually glad people like Paris, because I can relate to her more than Rory. I have bipolar disorder, so I've done some of the stupid stuff Paris has done. I can tell you; it only takes one bad day to lose all your friends and your job and everything else good in your life. I've had friends that were condescending, superiority complex people that were only my friend to look down their nose at me. I really don't think Rory's like that. Not show Rory anyway. If she is she hides it very well.

@doesitmatterwhoiam8838

5 ай бұрын

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 I was thinking about the Gabby/Susan comparison. To me, it reminds me more of the Blair/Serena comparison from Gossip Girl. Blair is Paris, but with more emotional control. While there's much more difference between Serena and Rory, people tend to say the same thing about Serena that they same about Rory which is that's she's fake, and only pretending to be a nice person. People love Blair and hate Serena, but Blair would destroy their life without even giving a second thought. Serena would just steal your boyfriend. Neither Blair nor Serena would make good friends, but I could at least handle being Serena's co-worker or classmate.

Paris came a long way throughout the seasons and yet still got in the way of herself. Still, my favorite moments involving her mostly include her nanny just because she's clearly the most consistent adult figure in her life.

@radhiadeedou8286

5 ай бұрын

Did she come a long way? She seems the same to me

I'd love to see the follow up video about Paris' relationship with Rory!

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

You got it! 🙂

I had a friend growing up who had a lot in common with Paris. It was exhausting!

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh, I can only imagine.

@roses_rose840

4 ай бұрын

I did too

I feel like people just like to hate on Rory and that's why they love Paris. Like quoting Rory saying she and Paris are barely friends as though this demonstrates what a terrible person Rory is. IMO Paris was not a good friend many times but her evicting Rory from their apartment was the most annoying to me. Also, I feel like early episodes Paris was a different vibe than how she became...it seemed like she was initially set up to be more of a type A but popular queen bee type like more Blair Waldorf vibes. But then she ends up being unpopular and socially difficult, making it weird that Madeline and Louise hang out with her because they don't seem like they would be friends at all. They seem more like Blair minions than someone who would be friends with Paris how she ends up being.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

I also got the impression that the show’s intent was to have Paris be the Queen B in the beginning but then her characterization was changed sometime in season 1.

@Aelffwynn

3 ай бұрын

I always thought Paris had a symbiotic relationship with Madeline and Louise: she helped them with their grades/extracurriculars, and they kept her afloat socially. Plus, it seems like they all grew up together, so there was probably some loyalty there.

I’m so glad someone else feels the same way about Paris 😂

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

There might be more of us out there. 😄

@bili8617

5 ай бұрын

It drives me crazy that people overlook how terrible she is.

But Paris portraits an underlying reality. No matter if you want it or not, you are in competition (when looking at the standpoint of work and school). Even when Rory focuses on herself the reality of competition is present. Paris just hyperfocuses on this and creates fear of not being good enough for herself; sure, this behaviour is over the top but in general she is right - imo this would work much better with a non rich student, because they could know what is waiting for them when they fail or they know the contrast of what is in store for them when going the "right" way.

That is an interesting way to talk about it. I think that someone who has been betrayed by loved ones, especially when very young, especially by the parents who are supposed to protest their child, this someone remains paranoid always, no matter how many proves were given that paranoia was not justified. In the reboot it’s getting even worse. Rory is incredibly patient with Paris. We find a little this paranoia in Emily too. Paris as Emily are rather draining.

I’ve only ever wanted to emulate Paris’s work ethic and that’s it. Some of the things she’s done to Rory I would NEVER do to my friends.

I have absolutely no problem with Paris because from third person pov I noticed Rory was not good friend to her. She has stated on multiple occasions that they are not really friends. Rory in Chilton was completely different than in Yale so I am not surprised Paris never completely trusted her . They were in this relation for mutual benefits, they never seemed like great friends

Nice to see you! Great take, I totally agree. I really think you’re doing a public service identifying toxic traits in these characters for people to apply in their assessment of real life interactions. The number of times I’ve been dozing peacefully to GG only to be startled awake by Paris shrieking, ha... maybe Rory’s poor judgment in later seasons was due to Paris-induced sleep deprivation!

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Watching the yelling back-to-back was a lot to handle. I could see how having Paris as a roommate would cause a person's grades to suffer. Maybe that was Paris' plan all along...

I feel that I always remember the good sides of Paris and the way the actress plays her and forget sometimes how mean she is. I liked the friendship between Rory and Paris when the show was setting up Paris’s redemption arc. I felt when the high school dynamics wore down, they were able to stop over competing and just hang out. At least, that is what I remember. But like all of these characters, Paris is flawed. Like every character, there are good moments and there are bad ones.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Liza Weil did a great job with the character. It takes a lot of skill to handle that intensity and she also knows how to do serious emotional scenes.

@radhiadeedou8286

5 ай бұрын

I don't think Paris had a redemption arc, her relationship with Rory changes but she's still the same in every other aspect

@gabrielleduplessis7388

5 ай бұрын

@@radhiadeedou8286 i see opinions that during the chilton era, there was a set up there and than the writers took it downhill.

just a perfect video. found myself loudly agreeing just about the whole time - she’s an awful friend, i would have probably pulled her hair or something if i knew her personally at some point lmfao…but as a character i appreciate her. the distance helps lol

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Yes! The right amount of distance is key when it comes to Paris. I would have lost my mind.

After 15 years, I rewatched Gilmore Girls this past January, and many things in the show aged badly, but one in particular is hostility and aggressiveness as a personality trait. Rory dedicated herself to her friendship with Paris, even when Paris didn't deserve it. As an example, Paris uses a fencing class to attack Rory physically while Rory tries to explain herself. Paris kept treating Rory as an enemy whenever the chance arose. Kicking Rory out of their flat after a rage episode would have been the last straw for me. Even though Paris's anger is a result of her upbringing, this cannot be used as justification for Rory to allow herself to be mistreated and keep going after Paris.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

I have developed some theories as to why Rory would continue her friendship with Paris despite the fact that Paris was continuously mean to her. From the show's perspective, I think that Paris was originally set up to be the antagonist and slowly the writers started to like this character more and more but I think they felt like they had to keep her personality traits consistent.

Paris is a character that i sympathize with a lot. She is anxious, hurt, lonely, and feels a need to be the best because she is treated like the worst at home. I am not excusing how she treated Rory but when you look deeper under the surface there were lots of underlying struggles that paris went through that made her that way.

tbh I wish her arc ended with Chilton

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

I've seen that sentiment expressed before. I don't mind the presence of Paris after Chilton but her presence after Chilton, particularly the decision to make her Rory's roommate, feels contrived from a writing perspective.

@mukina

5 ай бұрын

But then we wouldn't get to see her and doyle 2002 dancing = D

@anglobostonian

5 ай бұрын

@@PensiveWhiskers "the powers that be" probably didn't expect that "Gilmore Girls" would last seven seasons. As a result she was kept in the show because the Palladinos thought they needed some consistency and to keep her in as a continued foil to Rory.

@anastasia8268

5 ай бұрын

Agree it felt forced and unnatural

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Lol, that sounds about right. I also think that the show might have done focus groups to see which characters the fandom gravitated towards.

Speaking as someone who studied nursing at university and spent a lot of time on hospital wards caring for patients. I definitely don't see Paris as someone who would be good in a medical situation. She lacks a lot of personal skills, struggles with empathy, and the ability to work in a team. She finds high-pressure situations difficult to handle and is erratic with decision-making. She might have the academics for theory behind being a doctor, but in terms of being a caregiver, I struggle to see her in that role. In the 2016 'Year in the life' series, I was very surprised to see her in private practice helping parents with conception, I guess because she was working in a private practice that meant she had more control but still, I wouldn't want to put her in an emergency room or on a main ward with lots of patients.

Love your content! I‘m binge watching it the whole day 🙈❤

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! I'm very happy that it's entertaining!

I would love to watch a video about the relationship between Paris and Rory. Gilmore girls was a show my whole family liked to watch together. When Rory and Logan argue about him cheating and she goes to Paris drunk my father pointed out that Rory would take advantage of Paris. I think what he meant is that Paris is in a vulnerable place herself and that Rory is a little desperate, but I thought he was judging her a little too hard. I would love to hear your thoughts on that. Thank you for your content, I especially loved the video about Kirk ❤

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching! Your dad has an interesting opinion. In that particular situation, I feel that "taking advantage of" is too strong of a phrase. Paris had previously begged Rory to move in with her, and after she did, Paris kicked her out without notice for unjustified reasons. Then Rory went to Paris because she needed a place to stay and she did confess to Paris that Logan broke up with her. My take, after studying Paris, is that she is always sort of in a vulnerable position. She is the one that broke up with Doyle, putting herself in that emotional state. She needed Rory more in that moment than Rory needed her.

i def wouldn’t be friends w paris i don’t get how rory stood by her for so long

@radhiadeedou8286

5 ай бұрын

I think Rory felt bad for her, it wasn't really a friendship, more like charity work

@angelaholmes8888

5 ай бұрын

Yep me neither I would had ran from Paris 🏃‍♀️💨

The effort you put into your videos shows!!! You clearly have a passion for the content and you’re easily my favorite Gilmore girls content creator and I have to stop myself from writing a fan letter every time I watch a video.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! That is so nice of you to say! I'm happy that I can make stuff for others to enjoy. ☺

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I would LOVE to have Paris’ energy levels. In one of the early episodes of S4 Rory says, “Paris gets more done by 9am than someone does all day.” Imagine the things a person could get done in their life! She has passion & drive for the things she wants and does for SO many things through out her life. She uses this to help the people she cares about, think of when Logan was in the hospital and Rory asked her to get the info at the hospital. Paris has trust issues but of course she would. She grew up without parents who actually care & love her. Not having the affection & attention for the 2 people who are supposed to love you unconditionally is going to effect a person fundamentally into adulthood. Take a look at “In A Year In The Life”, [I do not consider GG cannon] she gets the career and life she wants, except that Doyle lost his drive so they divorce or are separated (I don’t remember). And where is Rory at? Screwing over people left and right, not even able to locate her underwear even though she does a $250,000 inheritance at this point. Paris over Rory 💯

Really great video! It felt not much different than a comprehensive video essay in enough ways that if this saves you a ton of time i think this format is totally worth doing whenever you're in the mood to. And i agree so much with everything you said about Paris. This was a great analysis.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! This format does save time. I’ll try it out again at some point but with an actual camera.

She is tiring if you don't have anything but her - you are a hero. 😂 But of course, I love Paris 😂❤

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Hahahaha, I didn't think it was going to be such a monumental task. 😂

love your takes! as a traumatised (ex-bpd) autistic person, i relate to Paris, but she had a lack of stable parenting/enough privilege not to people please or learn to mask. deffo don't have to diagnose a character, but i totally relate on some levels. thanks for your content!

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! I hope I handled her characteristics in a respectful way. She’s not a real person or realistic necessarily but I think she has qualities that people have in real life and I ultimately feel bad that people experience what she experiences

I been waiting for this!!! Thank you ❤

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching! I know it's not what most people were looking for, which is a complete character analysis but as I was working on my video for Rory and Paris, I had too many thoughts on Paris that I was tempted to talk about.

@yngwierose3465

5 ай бұрын

@@PensiveWhiskers doing one on Rory and Paris is a great idea. Would be interesting to get your intake on relationship development vs the Rory and Jane, which you did greatly. There is a only few time the three girls are actually together and their interactions is blah at best. Keep it! Your videos are one of my favorite! I love your depth.

I liked this format! Interessting peek into the process :) I'm always surprised when someone says they like Paris, I find the opposite to be much more common - but then, I had this surprise reaction several times, so liking/admiring her must be a devisive topic...

@PensiveWhiskers

4 ай бұрын

Yes, she is turning out to be divisive the more I do research on her. I also think that people like this character for different reasons. Some people like her because they are amused by her, not because they see her as a good person.

Great video. I hate that the writers never let Paris eventually learn to be a better and nicer person. Saving her zingers for people who actully deserved it. Imagine if they'd had a therapy arc for her or a good mentor/role model.

I also wanted to make the point that when she went on a date with Jamie in Washington, she made Rory go into the wardrobe because if Jamie saw Rory he would want to date her instead demonstrating not only her anxiety, need for control but also viewing Rory with a level of distrust and competition

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Yes! That is another good example.

Imo it was never about Paris, all the love Paris received was a way of expressing gratitude that at least something in Rory's life wasn't given to her easily. Rory's life is always perfect: she has money and support from her grandparents but her mom has just not the greatest relationship with them so she doesn't have all the social/emotional pressure (which is the downside of the coin), she is academic gifted, she is beloved by her entire town, if she likes a guy that same guy will unavoidably fall for her, she wants Harvard, but maybe even Yale and she gets both... The only scratch in her perfect life is this girl she has to put up with. And of course she in insufferable but it's one of those situations where you're pleased to finally see the only plausible, realistic aspect (annoying acquainted) in an otherwise dream life. To be fair: i love Rory in the early seasons because her life is not that perfect (not as perfect as in "i want something -> i don't put the effort -> i get that something" Rory's later seasons life) and because she is weird and realistic.

Yes! Do it! ❤

Paris reminds me of a lot of people I did extra curriculars with. Their resume and bank account are perfect, but every other aspect of their life is a disaster. Everybody just kind of tolerated them.

You make a really great point about how we view the protagonist versus how we view the antagonist. I love Paris, and relate to her, but also agree that she isn't the ideal role model or friend, and while I wasn't as big a fan of Rory initially, I will now defend her to the death. Your point about Paris's paranoia is also apparent in the revival, when Paris asks Rory is she and Doyle are having an affair, not to mention the meltdown she has at the reunion. People say Paris came out better than Rory, and while it's true that career-wise, Paris was in a better place, she wasn't really in a good place personally. She was in the middle of a messy divorce, and while she had chosen to have children (which it would have been totally valid if she hadn't, not everyone has to be a mother if they don't want to) she clearly didn't like her children, and says that both her and her children prefer the nanny to each other, which tells me that she basically became her mother and is repeating a cycle that shaped her into a very unhappy person. Also, (and some of this is copy pasted a bit from a comment I left on The Take's video on Paris) people like to say that Paris deserved to get into Harvard of be valedictorian more than Rory, that Rory didn't work hard to achieve those things and basically had it all handed to her, which I disagree with. Paris actually had a lot of advantages that Rory didn't. Yes, Paris did a bunch of extra curricular and volunteer work for years before it occurred to Rory to do the same thing, but it's not something that Paris was willing to do that Rory wasn't. Paris grew up in the IV league pre-school and forward world, where probably the only relationship she had with her parents (other than them criticizing her) was them telling her what she needed to do to get into the schools she got into. She would also have counselors and teacher encouraging these sorts of behaviors. Rory, on the other hand, before the events of the S1, went to public school, which isn't always so great at preparing kids for college until high school, and even then, only so much. Her mother wanted her to go to Harvard, but didn't actually know how to get her in, other than good grades. Her grandparents knew the system, but were essentially cut off from Rory for most of her life. Basically, nobody told Rory what was required until Paris, where Paris would have been raised in a hyper-competitive environment where that would have been drummed into her from an early age. This is a case of the system failing, not Rory herself. She was a kid. The fact that Rory does so well at such an advanced school and is able to get some extra curriculars under her belt at what is essentially the eleventh hour says a lot about her intelligence as well as her ability to rally. I'm not saying Paris didn't deserve to be valedictorian or to get into Harvard. Of course she did! But that doesn't mean Rory didn't also. Chilton Rory works hard to get where she is, and she earns what she gets. I have more thoughts on how these girls compare if you are interested. Just let me know. Great video.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Hey! You make really great points! I didn't touch upon the revival (I'm saving it for a separate video) but I absolutely agree with you there; Paris' paranoia and trust issues continue in the revival. I also think that both Rory and Paris did really well and it's not crazy for Rory to be valedictorian or get into Harvard. Please feel free to share your thoughts on both of these characters and how they compare.

@user-re8du6sf5b

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for replying. you're always so nice! So, when I said I had other thoughts, maybe what I should have said is I had this long reaction to The Take's Paris video, and I copy-pasted some of it before, but I'd like to share the rest, if that's okay? Because the way people vilify Rory bugs me, and much as I love Paris, the fandom's communal decision to paint her as superior when they are both flawed human beings aupsets me. So, the following is copy-pasted from a comment I left of the KZreadr's The Take's video on Paris: "Another consideration when comparing the two is their chosen careers. Despite coming from money, or possibly because of it, Paris chose two very lucrative career paths. Rory, on the other hand, chose something that is very financially unstable, and was encouraged in this choice by those around her. Both girls had the goal of getting into a college, and were a little thrown off kilter when they were no longer working towards those goals. However, once Paris started on her career path at Yale (because she did get into a lot of IV Leagues, just not the one she came on too strong about) she was able to use the same studious skills, because the career's she chose were very academic. Rory, on the other hand, chose a career path that wasn't quite as academic, which is probably one of the reasons that she struggled with it so much. She was good at the academic aspects of it; it was the other aspects where she faltered. On that note, her problem when she interned for Mitchum wasn't her writing ability, or any of the skills that make one a good student, but her timidness, her lack of being comfortable making herself heard when it would seem rude to do so. Paris will do anything to get her way, even if it seems rude, makes her less likable, or will even get her in trouble, as shown by her willingness to break into Chilton for the sake of the social contacts she can get from being a Puff. As the video says (and I do agree with this) Paris needed to excel at school, because it was all she had. This wasn't true for Rory, but that doesn't mean her home-life was perfect. As much as her family loved her, Rory's existence was essentially a mistake that she constantly felt she had to justify and correct. Why don't they have money? Why doesn't she have a relationship with her grandparents? Why isn't her dad around? Why is her mother so immature? The answer to all of these questions are because she was conceived while her mother was a teenager and it changed (some characters would say ruined) everyone's lives. Rory might know that Lorelai loved her, but she also had to be the adult for a lot of her upbringing. She also could never complain about her situation because the situation was her fault, and Lorelai gave up a more "comfortable," life to raise her. Her grandparents could only forgive her mother, and Rory's existence, if Rory was the new and improved Lorelei, with all the potential that required. It was Lorelai's idea for Rory to go to Harvard, and probably Chilton too. When Rory has second thoughts in the series premier, these doubts are not allowed, and we see that once Rory sees how much her mother is sacrificing for her, and how it is affecting her family, she agrees to go to Chilton even if it's not necessarily what she wants, because it will make her family happy. Paris knew she couldn't make her family happy, so she needed something good outside of her home. Rory's world is full of love, but it feels conditional, like it could implode if she steps one foot wrong. Her mother and grandparent's relationship was ruined because of her existence. it's her fault, which makes it her job to fix it, and shows her how fragile these relationships can be. Her grandparents rejected her mother because of the mistake her mother made, a mistake called her. She's seen the consequences of setting one foot out of line, and it means your whole world turning upside down. She loves her mom so much, and can't imagine losing her, but she believes her grandparents are good people who love their daughter, and were still willing to throw her away for messing up. That doesn't even address her father who was never around. She needs to be perfect and likable, or she could lose her family, and her family is her whole world. So, it's hard for her to risk doing something that might get her in trouble. She did okay at the internship, but she didn't do anything that she thought she could get yelled at for, and then she ended up getting yelled at for her lack of willingness to get yelled at. And this big rejection comes not only from this huge mogul who knows everything about her chosen field, but also her boyfriend's father. I do wish we got more context on why Rory chose to steal a boat, but I suspect that her reaction was so big because she felt she had already blown up her life. Then, when she suggests taking a little time off school to figure herself out, Lorelei flips out in a very Emily-like way, saying "no, you can't ruin your life, you can't go off the path we decided on for you and stay at home with me while you figure things out," which isn't all that different from what Rory feared would happen if she stepped a toe out of line. And I'm not trying to bash Lorelai as a mother, because I think she did a decent job for someone raising a child by herself when still a child herself, but whenever Rory goes off-book, she doesn't get the support her mom promised her she would always have. I know I've gone on a rant here, and this was about Paris, so I'll stop talking about Rory, but I just want to make it clear that while Paris deserved more than she got, it wasn't like she didn't get it because Rory did. For the second part, which I promise, is all about Paris, (and thanks if you're still reading my comment) the vidders say that when we caught up with Paris in A Year In The Life, she had found a way to get the life she wanted, and I strongly disagree. Paris' career was in a great place, and I'm so happy that she found that, but she was also going through a divorce, and had a terrible relationship with her kids, who she admitted she didn't even like, and was clearly not a good mom to. Now, romance and kids aren't everything, and if Paris had chosen to not have kids, it would have been totally valid. What we see, however, if that she has basically become her parents, good money, bad marriage. Hopefully she doesn't make the same tax mistakes they did (or however they lost their fortune) but when she was a kid, she had no reason to think she would go broke, yet she was still very unhappy with her home life. Now she's become the sort of mother that she had, the mother who made her feel bad about herself and like school was her only way out. She's still close to Rory, but as far as we can tell, she hasn't made any other significant connections in life, and in her divorce she's lost some. Basically, she's the same person she was in school, good at the work, bad at the social and family stuff, only now, she's the one responsible for kids who are going to grow up feeling unloved. You want to believe that if you had bad parents, you'll do better with your own kids, but Paris is just continuing the cycle and making the same mistakes, which is very sad. That's mostly what I wanted to say. Feel free to respond to my opinion."@@PensiveWhiskers

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

That is an excellent summary. I agree with you on a lot of it, you phrase it really well. I also watched The Take's video on Paris. I don't want to bash that video as I think they did a good job (when I decided to make videos, I actually wanted to be like The Take, very professional analysis but then I chose to go with a more personal tone). I did feel that in that video, they made Paris' story more positive than how it really turned out. Paris didn't really change as a person by the time that we get to the revival and while she has a good career, she still seems pretty miserable. Rory also had a lot of things working against her that Paris didn't have to deal with. Of course Paris had her own challenges that she had to overcome. I also find it interesting how Rory is vilified more than Paris. I think they both make poor choices and do bad things but Rory is judged a lot more harshly.

I would like to see the video about Rory and Paris, thank you so much, I really enjoy your content.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! I'll make a video on their relationship. 🙂

idc i love her

Thank you!😊❤

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

My pleasure! 😄

I think it’s possible that Paris is split personality of Rory. Their dialogues are actually monologues and when we see others interacting with Paris, they are actually interacting with Rory. Notice how she appears out of nowhere and then leaves to nowhere. Sometimes, her appearance on screen is actually a figment of Rory’s imagining if her other personality (Paris) was responding, and then she moves forward by choosing her more stable response. When Rory sees Paris’ mother, Rory is imagining what it would be like to not have Lorelai.

@PensiveWhiskers

Ай бұрын

I kind of love this interpretation. Others have also pointed out how Paris is a mirror image of Rory in a way. Paris is Rory’s shadow self.

People always forget that Paris was applying to, and ultimately attended, law school. Writing for and being the editor of the Yale paper would definitely help her in this aspect.

8:56 I think also, it may be hard for Paris to see Rory go with her support system because in that moment, Rory has been her support system and Paris doesn't have as much family support behind her (she has Nanny, but not her parents). Also she may feel discarded, after she felt they built up more friendship doing the debate, but when left behind feels like less of a friend and more like a colleague.

Would love to see more of your thoughts on Paris. On her relationship with Rory but also with other characters like Doyle and Lorelai. Paris is definetly one of those characters you adore on screen but wouldn't want to know in real life. Though I find that to be the case with most Gilmore Girls characters, such as Emily, Kirk or Mrs. Kim but maybe that's on me.

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

I agree, I think the show has a lot of characters that are fun to watch on screen but who would be hard to handle in real life.

Yes more Paris!!

Paris is definitely a very complex character, with a lot of insecurities, she has trouble being vulnerable with people and letting her guard down, even with someone like Rory who she considers to be her best friend, which is very interesting, whereas Rory is very trusting especially in the beginning she's like a little puppy And Paris is the shock, but overtime the lines kind of blur as Paris gets more comfortable with her friendship with Rory, but at the same time she just can't get rid of that competitiveness and she has a lot of trust issues, probably from her parents it really feels like Paris struggles with opening up to people and trusting people and being honest with people and kind of letting others be there for her And it really seems like she's a problem being vulnerable and just essentially being herself she's afraid that if she is she'll get hurt and that people will take advantage of her she needs to be on top she needs to be the best and that can be exhausting for the people around her, as well as herself just the constant anxiety she seems to havewhere she's so mistrusting that she'll throw her own best friend out on the street or betray her just to get on top and you can't help feel sorry for Paris in these moments.

I feel that they made Paris a joke after season 3. At school Paris was young and aggressive x but she was growing and learning to be a better person, while at college... She was so mad I didn't believe she's a person... It was so jarring after her growth at school and ALSO mental coach in the beginning of season 4... By the end of the series, she kinda regressed...

off topic, but your theory about why we sometimes hate protagonists actually works so well with How i met your mother! i could'n understand why people hate Ted so much (he was a mess, but he was a decent guy in 90% of situations, but people literally want to m#rder him for those 10%). and barney, who's literally a monster 90% of the times (he's abusive, he's sexist, he's manipulative (slept with Robin when she was vulnerable and needed comfort) he's a bad friend (remember that time when he traded Ted for Swedish guys?), is so beloved because people love those 10% when he's a good guy. it's very interesting theory and it explains why some fandoms exist ;)

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Hahahaha, yes! ("traded Ted for Swedish guys" 😆) This would definitely explain why people like Barney more. He is terrible and 100x worse than Ted but Ted gets a lot more hate. It's easier to love the "bad character" because they are designed to be bad but the protagonist is supposed to be the good guy and it's hard to root for the good guy when he does bad things.

Paris exhibits a LOT of extremely bad behavior and though I can extend empathy to her because of her difficult family, I cannot excuse or justify her horrible treatment of basically everyone around her - Rory, her flatmates, her school mates, the people at the paper, any random person. Given how many examples of this kind of bullying and terrorizing behavior we have from real world bosses, I find it very concerning that so many people absolutely love her.

I certainly wouldn't want to be in Paris shoes not for a second even though she does change in some ways she's still quite a handful to deal with i think she's like this is due to her childhood her parents truly neglected her for better or worse or childhood shapes who we become she should had gone to therapy when she was younger

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

I’m surprised they didn’t make therapy part of Paris’ storyline. It would have been very fitting for her character

@stephanieok5365

5 ай бұрын

@PensiveWhiskers I'm kind of not surprised because Amy Sherman Palladino seems like she has an almost cartoonish impression of what therapy is and I get the impression she's never gone. I don't think the show runner knew that experience so she never made it part of any plot points except as a joke or exposition contrivance. 👀

I think Paris has extreme trust issues and it mostly comes from her childhood with her parents. She has come a long way, especially with Rory's influence and even Lorelei expresses kindness and offers a positive adult role for Paris. However, not even Terrence can help her through her issues. Perhaps Paris should have been in therepy instead of getting a life coach. Rory is very patient and understanding of Paris and despite her trust issues rearing its head throughout their friendship, Paris still appreciated the friendship she received from Rory compared to the friendships she had before Rory. However, friendships cannot heal childhood trauma and anxiety.

Paris probably doesn’t really trust anyone because of parental neglect. Studies have shown of the severe detrimental effect parental neglect can have on kids and if her parents really did leave her for months on end that feeling of abandonment and rejection could probably explain most of her issues.

Please make the video about their friendship :D

please do a Paris and Rory relationship video

Paris is such a grey area for me, I feel for her because she must feel an amount of pressure to get into Harvard because of family (puffs for example) but still doesn't excuse all the paranoia with Rory. Like even in the Year in the Life, she said "Are you and Doyle seeing each other?" meaning she still to the day doesn't fully 💯 trust.. Bleak..

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

It is very bleak. I haven't touched upon A Year in The Life in most of my videos as I am saving it for a separate video but you are right; there are several instances of Paris continuing to be paranoid in the revival.

My favorite girl ❤. You know? I am in my 30s. I was looking for a rol model. Found it. 🎉

My father IS Paris. I can only describe the relationship as a REALLY exausting one, because he is too much - and he completely lacks self awareness. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

Has your father seen the show?

@SeArquiteteMininu

5 ай бұрын

@@PensiveWhiskers never, he only watches telejornals, the Holy Mass and telenovelas when he's interested.

I think Paris has BPD because every point you brought up is a characteristic of that disorder. I also can relate to Paris a lot. Wanting to be the best, needing validation. Wanting to be liked even by people you hate. Rejection feeling like betrayal. Volitile emotions. You’re right. It is hell existing in this brain.

Can I just say, I definitely agree that Paris can very much be very insecure and intense, however I feel that her character was very prone to flanderization in the later seasons. In the first three seasons you kind of see her grow a lot and deal with the fact that she is hyper intensive, and she even apologizes to Rory for freaking out over the deal with Franky. Obviously she still had a long way to go but it showed her taking accountability, instead of just ignoring that she did something wrong. And yet we come back to her in season 4 at Yale and she’s clearly regressed, in fact I feel as if most of her ugliest arcs and moments come from these later seasons.

Remove the bullying and paranoia, and I identify a lot with Paris. Like how much pressure she puts on herself. Yes, it's exhausting.

Anyone who hates Rory and loves Paris at the same time is most likely a bully themselves and jealous of Rory. They so conveniently ignore that Paris is one of the most toxic characters, but expect Rory to bend over backwards to accomodate her BULLY! Also, Paris never had "character development" like people love to claim. Neither was she a "loyal friend" (the way she kicked Rory out of the apartment among multiple other examples). The only thing that happened was that she became less douchey towards Rory because she was the only one who would tolerate her. Paris was still an awful person towards everyone else. Everyone has their own personal problems and background, but it does NOT give them the right to bully innocent others. I have NO sympathy towards Paris, and honestly she deserved everything bad that happened to her, more so because it was ALWAYS her own doing.

🤔Seeing all the scenes of Paris at once...i THINK she might have abandonment issues (from her parents)...

@PensiveWhiskers

5 ай бұрын

💜

Paris was a terrible friend to Rory. Truly awful! I kicked people out of my life for less than what Paris did to Rory. Rory didn't really try to make new friends after Lane and just got 'stuck' with Paris which was very convenient to her.

Paris is exhausting to deal with. Lane was a way better friend. I like Paris as a character but if she was my friend I’d be tired

I love Paris, but she does go from making me laugh my ass off to pissing me off sometimes.

@angelaholmes8888

5 ай бұрын

Yep same for me

It’s like Damon tbh everyone loves him because he’s supposed to be bad or something

Yeah, I never liked Paris... I think that Rory should have stood up for herself more but I have a feeling if she did, Paris would have been EVEN worse. With someone like Paris you either give up or move.

@PensiveWhiskers

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, it’s hard to say how Paris would react if Rory stood up to her. I do think that Rory gave a bit more pushback as the years went on but she played it safe a lot during the Chilton years, which one could argue is also a valid strategy.

@qazmko22

4 ай бұрын

@@PensiveWhiskers agreed.. Idk how the writers would have handled Rory standing up for herself, but when I stand up to people like that.. if never ends well.

As someone riddled with insecurities I can’t really judge her lol

I do not think Paris was neuro divergent at all. I DO think she had extreme rapid cycling Bipolar and had very extreme OCD. She was consistently hostile, competetive and abrasive (the former) and her mood could go from one to the next at any given moment(the extreme rapid cycling) and she always seemed to be in a state of extreme hyper mania. Her absolute need for control is from OCD. I think that is also from where her competitive streak came in in some things. Don't misunderstand me, I think she was a driven young lady, but things like "The Franklin" and "The Yale Daily News" when journalism was not even her major, nor was something she was going for, it just seems to add up to me. Also, her intensity! I say all of this because I am Bipolar type 2, an extreme rapid cycler(a 90 degree mood swing for no reason at any given time, throughout the day) and I have extreme OCD. I wasn't diagnosed until my 30s, whereupon I did get help, but I was exhausting to everyone around me prior to that!

Role* 😂

Most likely has borderline personality disorder; much like me.

I wouldn't want a daughter who behaved as poorly as Paris or Rory for that matter

kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6Gk16xyfcuwg6Q.htmlsi=oy63J3aysfNuKACj After seeing this I thought, you should make an episode about Lorelai's most immature reactions and decisions in the series.