I said this in the first video I made on this last April but I think it's good that the Fighters are getting paid to fight in Creator Clash 2! I'm just critical of the marketing implying it's all for charity and people like Alanah saying that Froggy is stealing from charity when his $15k advance came from the money he's getting to fight and not money for charity. That's why the video was made. I have no issue with people getting paid for their work

@kiko53768

Жыл бұрын

based take

@fernandoramoz2001

Жыл бұрын

Your a dumbass that takes assumptions and fucking imaginary calculations that you made on your cellphone as facts, why do t you try and speak only about the thing you know for a fact instead of living on your imaginary world.

@earthnormal7024

Жыл бұрын

⁠​⁠@@kiko53768yeah I agree like I have no problem with them being paid because they take time out of their schedules to stream into training. It’s just that the marketing made it seem like they weren’t being paid at all or at least very little. Any like the vids bro 😎

@BudgetDiety

Жыл бұрын

Idk man I think honestly they're taking a huge pay cut to do it and often enough to maintain their life expenses, which yes are much higher than average because of their existing assets usually, but their purses were enough to not make them sink for doing the event, less so for compensating them.

@alehlete830

Жыл бұрын

at elast money stil lwent to chairty

Remember, anyone who could show receipts to disprove an entire argument but uses words instead is most likely lying.

@youtubedoesntletmehaveagoo8673

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love how they walked all over froggy but showed no receipts of him doing something bad before being kicked out. Froggy was open about everything and people sided with him, if only Ian was more open from the start I don't think people would care as much as they do. Besides if it was really for charity, they should do whats best for the event so it raises more money, but it seems Ian and Anisa care more about their own image then about the success of the event. All I saw from Idubbz new video was excuses and not a lot of compromise.

@theoutsiderjess4869

Жыл бұрын

​@@youtubedoesntletmehaveagoo8673 Some people have caught Froggy in a lie and in all honesty I think both sides were in the wrong

@roseghoul9443

Жыл бұрын

​@@theoutsiderjess4869 what lie?

@oss956

Жыл бұрын

​@theoutsiderjess4869 You mean about the communication stuff? Like Anisa trying to get in contact with Froggy when he said he didn't get any notice or contact from them before his ban? I get that, but that's really minor in the grand scheme. This was all blown out of proportion because of a joke at Anisa's expense which was not even worthy of note. Add Sam Hyde simply training Froggy, and it was an action done out of fear of Froggy being a Sam Hyde spy, which was ridiculous to assume on their part. Ian and Anisa turned nothing into something. It only made matters worse as they dropped an awful clarification and went dead silent, leaving people who aren't even involved to play defense team for them until after the event. Can't blame Froggy or Sam for this. This one is on them.

@xstome9608

Жыл бұрын

@@oss956 Do you know what I can't get over after all of this was said and done though... that they turned down 100k from Jidion to just let Froggy back in the event. I mean they lost 250k from this event and they still declined the Jidions money. that just shows how much Anisa and Idubbz despise Sam Hyde.

For someone with the name idubbz, it’s very ironic that he has not gotten a dub in a while

@doratheace

Жыл бұрын

illlz

@sunbeames1847

Жыл бұрын

Iellz

So after Harley did all that rambling, he ended up getting more money than the charities? 💀

@alguienconunvideojuego4606

Жыл бұрын

In line with his tribe.

Idubbbz went from posting nothing but fire banger videos, now he can’t post ANYTHING without just absolutely losing.

It's crazy that Idubbbz can just squash all those false rumors by just showing the receipts but he doesn't like his hiding something.

@mr_clean1326

Жыл бұрын

Honestly spitting

@TrueRetroflection

Жыл бұрын

If he busts out the ukelele, it'll all be fine

@almostrevan8230

Жыл бұрын

@@TrueRetroflection The ToXiC gOSSip tRAin

@mr_clean1326

Жыл бұрын

@@TrueRetroflection nah underrated comment 😂

@stevenm3330

Жыл бұрын

If CC2 is a tax exempt non profit then they have to release the financial records.

"You're questioning us, that means you're against charity." Way to hide behind Charity

It's wild how you figured this out 2 months ago. I really thought Idubbbz ate the cost of production and all of the ticket sells went to charity. I see why they wanted the money from froggy back

@danielrichardson6054

Жыл бұрын

I was drugged and raped 💃💃💃💃💃

@128pResolution

Жыл бұрын

How does no one in the comments understand what net profit means

@xstome9608

Жыл бұрын

I mean I think it's kinda unreasonable to expect Idubbz to take a million dollar loss but at the same time I think the cost to run it is completely ridiculous. I mean almost 2 million to run an event that they didn't even bother protecting against piracy. Also I really want to see the budget and at least the expense report. I feel like for a charity event that should be standard.

@danielrichardson6054

Жыл бұрын

@@xstome9608 he’s lying for tax bennies

@makito106

Жыл бұрын

@xstome9608 Yeah, I underestimated the cost and over estimated Idubbbz's financial status. I thought Idubbbz was rich like H3H3 or Hasan and the fighters used their own money for training.

The event was 100% marketed as nobody makes money on this but charity. Harley is delusional.

"We didnt pocket money, we just blew it on a trauma circlejerk!"

I love how iDubbbz whines about people lying about him pocketing charity money, yet he made a 28 minute video slandering Froggy Fresh after kicking him off of CC2.

@MasterSnake820

Жыл бұрын

"What I'm not okay with is people lying" my brother in christ that's what your entire Froggy Fresh response was

This is all on Ian. He sabotaged his own boxing event.

It’s very gross to see big names like Markiplier and others trying to support Ian when the entire event was falsely advertising that 100% of the money was going to charity. I feel like Ian is being a blatant grifter and he’s taking advantage of everyone.

@SadEyes1412

Жыл бұрын

Surprised that Mark would support this cunt

@Nyilith

Жыл бұрын

Wydm its very gross to see big names supporting it? Markipler and other creators probably didn’t do their research. Do not blame them for this, and instead, Idubbuz

@TheZeagon

Жыл бұрын

I feel like you didn't watch this video lmao

@staringcorgi6475

Жыл бұрын

That’s illegal if he gets charged

@haustyl12

Жыл бұрын

Not really a grift. Just shitty planning/expectations. Remember kids, hire professionals to do the things you have no expertise in

Can’t believe every other video he posts is just him taking an L

@ELTT1

Жыл бұрын

Should rename to LDubbbz

@Crusader316

Жыл бұрын

His wife is taking D's

@seanl2121

Жыл бұрын

Can't believe raising 150k for charity is an L.

@yummiestfern2316

Жыл бұрын

@@seanl2121it's an absolute L cause that isn't how much theybraised let alone paid to people

@seanl2121

Жыл бұрын

@@yummiestfern2316 incoherent response type beat

maybe im in the minority, but these celeb/youtuber fights/boxing matches are so dumb. Literally the most uninteresting concept to me.

@MikoyanGurevichMiG21

Жыл бұрын

It's literally nothing different from the disstrack trends of 2017-18, except the budget is higher.

@-o-1695

Жыл бұрын

I have never watched a single influencer boxing and I feel a little bit of pride

@KetsubanSolo

Жыл бұрын

You don't know much ancient Irish folklore, do yeh?

@satzbau9185

Жыл бұрын

@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 Well Ian also gets his face rearranged, so that's def a plus

Disavows half of his fanbase, then wonders why people aren't supporting him like they used to.

@Spicy_Spores

Жыл бұрын

By slandering them all as horrible people, too. :^) Amazing.

@kenji444

Жыл бұрын

​@@Spicy_SporesI mean, you all proved his point

@TheRatcharia

Жыл бұрын

@@kenji444oh do tell how this is the case.

@deadalivemaniac

Жыл бұрын

⁠A month beforehand, too. @@kenji444 we never ripped off charities or promoted fake charity boxing events.

Harley needs to get the same hate Ian and Anisa are getting. He was just as much, if not more, out there promoting this event as for “charity” and condemning everyone for not watching when he was just protecting his bag. I wonder if he’ll donate his payday to the charity he was fighting for so much.

@xstome9608

Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough Harley, Sam, and Froggy are all actually on pretty good terms which makes me think that Harley is just completely delusional about the event. I think because his fight was supposed to be a big one he really wanted the event to work out and now he's just sinking with the ship.

@acutelilmint8035

Жыл бұрын

The fact the event isn’t a charity n oropke were paid … tax fraud

@jojoagogo

Жыл бұрын

I lol’d till I cried when he got bodied and knocked out the ring.

@mrsurge4789

Жыл бұрын

If everything is true then I’d say to go after Ian and Anissa, the organisers of the event, and not the creators signing up to fight. For all we know, the creators involved who signed up to fight were likely told everything was going to charity. No shut they’re going to promote it as such. Blame should be placed on the organisers

@TheMadmax03

Жыл бұрын

@@mrsurge4789 Harley is different in that he had insight into the ongoings of Creator Clash. He knew of private messages between Froggy and Ian. He knew of the 20,000 dollars he was paid and still condemn everyone criticizing him, Ian, and Anisa. He deserves as much criticism cause how involved he made himself.

The biggest travesty of all this, is that haircut...

It is absolutely delusional to think making $20,000 is basically working for free. I know for a fact that training, travel, and lodging woulnt even put a dent into that amount.

@haustyl12

Жыл бұрын

Bit more than that. If you’re dedicating most of your time towards training for months to a year. Time taken away from makin videos or streaming. It’ll effect your profits. Training, transportation, traveling is a dent. The rest is to cover losses in potential profits for the event

@jsnjsshshsu8248

Жыл бұрын

It would lol

@macicoinc9363

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@haustyl12none of the people that boxed for the event spent “most of their time training”. I doubt half of them spent more than 3 hours a week.

@haustyl12

Жыл бұрын

@@macicoinc9363 and what proof do you have to support your statement?

@gofseeprbx

Жыл бұрын

​@@haustyl12I don't think it's more of a proof thing but generally humans, no human should train for highly extensive periods. While yes I believe they 100% output alot of effort and such. I really doubt a coach is going to be taking a marginal amount more than give or take 5-10 GRAND. Private lessons will take a fair amount per hour as well so they're gonna obviously take a less intensive 7 hour each day training. (I'd presume.) It just wouldn't be cost effective. The dent made in the money given shouldn't have been the entire 20k it'd be beyond stupid. And judging from how most of the creators faught in the event, they didint seem to know much. Some had good like basics but the rest seemed so fucking iffy. I really think the 20k was really mostly pocketed and the creators 100% could've just paid themselves with their massive bank accounts.

Me, sleeping knowing i didnt pay for creator clash and just donate spare change to hobos: 😴

@yukhzia

Жыл бұрын

me sleeping with you 😴 🛌

@Quaked4639

Жыл бұрын

Can I join in? Threesome?????

@GOTTA_RUN

Жыл бұрын

Me sleeping knowing I didn't give anything to the hobos: 😪😪😪😴😴💤💤🛏️🛌

@JorgeGalarza1990

Жыл бұрын

Me sleeping knowing I steal from hobos 😴😴😴

@happykeliscanon

Жыл бұрын

Me sleeping knowing I showed my fat furry collection to the hobos: 😴🛌

I watched the video again. So Dr. Mike confirmed he got paid 50k for CC1. Hundar and Harley confirmed a 20k stipend plus a percentage of the revenue for CC1, but they didn’t give exact amounts. You should also keep in mind that ppvs aren’t the only way this event generates revenue; in person ticket sales, sponsorships, and merchandise also contribute heavily. CC2 had about 6 different sponsors; Crash Bandicoot, Fansly, Raid Energy, Ohhh, and a few others. We don’t know how much the fighters got paid for CC2. Harley said 20k + percentage of the door sales on PKA, but who knows if that actually happened or not. I imagine some of them got paid more than others.

Creator clash 2 didn't make as much because the whole "Idubzz is hosting a boxing match!" wore off. People didn't care as much 2nd time around because most of the boxers don't have massive fanbases; Dad for example, an amazing boxer but he is mostly unknown by the wider internet.

@joaquincasascortes624

Жыл бұрын

Also because Iddubz did a terrible job marketing the 2nd time. I didn't even knew Creator Clash 2 happened

@adolfwigga

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like idubbbz should've listened to everybody telling him it needs more hype and controversy surrounding it. Instead, he wanted a 'professional' boxing event with nonprofessional fighters.

@Zackarco

Жыл бұрын

The Froggy Fresh drama didn't help either. I'm sure many people refunded their tickets for CC2 after that mess.

@sbevexlr848

Жыл бұрын

What's even worse is that the live stream was behind a pay wall unlike the 1st time being streamed on KZread this helped the 1st CC get a lot more money from the viewing revenue but alas iddubz turned his brain off for this event explaining why he did what he did

@TAZEROXFORD

Жыл бұрын

Who the fuck cares about a bunch of pasty chronically online attention whores boxing? Why was this ever thought to be lucrative in the first place?

Dang, you figured this out way before it was pubicly known. You're a full on analyst lol

@Antimony145

Жыл бұрын

analyst without the yst

@robertwesley7332

Жыл бұрын

​@@Antimony145🥵

@128pResolution

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god you can just Google what net profit means, there’s no merit in just googling a term

20k is like half my wages for the year that's nuts for them to pretend like it's nothing pisses me off and makes me feel bad about my job 😂

No body should be pocketing money for a charity event, it just seems wrong on so many levels.

@Quaked4639

Жыл бұрын

Marketed as a charity event proceeds not to tell you it actually only after they make there money back.

@nwerd7584

Жыл бұрын

if it wasnt marketed as such for woke points, wouldnt matter. And if they didnt obscure that it was ALWAYS for profit private event where maybe they make some donations to offset taxes of the event because any that even would have been sent off would benefit the company not the fighters taxes. I bet they made a ton and anissa will all of a sudden have more plastic surgery.

@SchizophrenixTheGaul3478

Жыл бұрын

I usually clowning on idubbbz for his terrible life decisions but hot damn he became a straight up scam artist, it disgust me

@TheGraveyarder

Жыл бұрын

what are you talking about nobody pocketed charity money😅 cc2 was just a flop

@nwerd7584

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGraveyarder we have zero proof of that besides trust me bro.

Idubbbz, Dream, Twomad, and Colleen Balinger are all fighting over who can be the most pathetic youtuber of 2023

@Joey_Star_

Жыл бұрын

@@CheesyRatPan how did I forget lol, damn the competition is fierce

@Rodz-kg6jx

Жыл бұрын

What about adin ross, Hassan?

@avengedlol6698

Жыл бұрын

​@@CheesyRatPanTo be honest, Adam22 is coping so hard right now there's no way he isn't the most pathetic one of the bunch.

@mayborneflower

Жыл бұрын

@@avengedlol6698 Missed the Adam22 thing, never heard of him till now. Whaddup?

@KetsubanSolo

Жыл бұрын

Special mention to Illuminaughti? (Sp?)

Bro took set weaponized autism to wumbo with all that math. Good on you for having the last laugh in this debacle.

All of this would of been avoided if Ian just let froggy fight.

@LT-qx9wt

Жыл бұрын

I highly doubt that it would have fixed the financial troubles, but it would have avoided plenty of drama.

@128pResolution

Жыл бұрын

@@LT-qx9wtnah fuck that guy, couldn’t even follow one simple request

@booleah6357

Жыл бұрын

It would have fixed some of the drama and given the shadier parts of him pocketing a bunch of money for him and his friends less light. I doubt it would have solved all his issues though because he had already kicked a hornets nest by disowning his old fans and showing a great deal of hypocrisy long before any of this.

@mrfreeman2911

Жыл бұрын

@@LT-qx9wt Some fun drama would have made the event better. Ian wants it to be kid friendly and that killed CC2. Actual boxers have beef and create stories. CC2 needed old Idubbz. that would have made 3 times the amount. Easy.

@haustyl12

Жыл бұрын

Only thing that would’ve been avoided is drama. The event would still fail due to lack of advertising and making it PPV only, causing incentives to pirate the fights

"The fighters get 20k" Idubbbz is a fighter. Anisa is his trainer. So basically they pocketed 20,000 dollars and lied to everyone

Seeing Anisa standing next to Amouranth, Jesus Christ lmfao😂

I think what really killed it was lack of marketing some of the people fighting barely even hyped it up and on the ian video there are people in the comments saying they didnt even know cc2 happened when its been a few months at this point. Also the fact that the newness of last year wore off.

If you do something, then get a paycheck, it isn’t “for charity” The fact that all of his was labeled as “for charity” is bullshit and i hope they all get fined by the FCC aswell as the IRS.

@avokka

Жыл бұрын

Idk, kinda based if they circumvent the irs

@xstome9608

Жыл бұрын

My question is did Ian and Anissa take a salary for planning the event. I mean this is the only thing they have worked on for months (Apart from Anissas only fans).

@robotmaster4515

Жыл бұрын

​@@avokkaListen I'm against false charities but I'm also more against the IRS.

@acutelilmint8035

Жыл бұрын

This is what I’m thinking. They better not write this off cause they can get in a lot of trpuble

@R3Fl3CT_

Жыл бұрын

1.3 went to the charities ahead of time so that wouldn’t be possible

I like how most of the commentary channels (cough turkey tom) brushed this aside and where even joking about you for even saying this, now who’s laughing, definitely not Ian

@128pResolution

Жыл бұрын

Where

cant spell bowblax without a huge W ... will be watchin

@ninja_raven256

Жыл бұрын

without*

@calmdownwoodywereyourfriends

Жыл бұрын

@@ninja_raven256 thanks, edited it

Harley: Its not ego, its not about that, its all about MONEY.

you did a good speculation doing a MODEST speculation is better then overestimating

A couple of points: - Froggy, on another video, stated he would give his purse, his cut of ticket sales and his cut of the PPV to charity. This implies that the $20k is the MINIMUM for each creator. - Ticket sales for both events haven't really been confirmed, just PPV buys. - iDubbbz apparently rented out a hotel for unaffiliated guest creators (see his video) for this event. Add that in and that's likely why the cost rose so dramatically.

@RxYouth

Жыл бұрын

There's also things like sponsors and merchandise as well.

@pawkeshup

Жыл бұрын

@@RxYouth I didn't watch the broadcast, so I didn't see if they had sponsors this year, but if they also sold merch and STILL aren't breaking even, then that's entirely on them. If it had sponsorships as well, then they are definitely pocketing money.

@RxYouth

Жыл бұрын

@@pawkeshup another comment mentioned about 5 different sponsors, like crash bandicoot, fansly, oooh and said there was a few more besides the 5 or so they mentioned. They also stated Dr Mike said he was paid 50k for the first CC. If this is "for charity" they definitely should be showing where all this money is going and how much they're making from each source of revenue otherwise claims that they're pocketing money isn't that far fetched. Anisa and Ian have become so good at gaslighting and strawmanning I really wouldn't be all that surprised at this point.

@pawkeshup

Жыл бұрын

@@RxYouth Then there's no excuse. This just convinces me Ian and Anisa took a payday from this. There's no other logical explanation to squander that much money.

Ever since he got with anisa man has been swallowing L after L

@GOTTA_RUN

Жыл бұрын

Anisa literally made content cop with him.

@drekiskrek5008

Жыл бұрын

​@@GOTTA_RUNYeah, his weakest and worst content cop 😂

That Harley just was such a walking L during this whole drama. Dude really thought this was his make or break moment and is now completely forgotten.

@avengedlol6698

Жыл бұрын

Wait until he crawls back to Sam for a bit of relevancy.

This wouldent have failed if he had froggy fresh fight

@dwn060clownman

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he should have had Sam Hyde, we know thanks to FIshtank that people will throw shitloads of money at him.

I think you're wrong that Ian didn't have to do the "we lost 250k" video. I don't know the exact details but I think Froggy was in contact with one of the charities and was about to spill the beans if Ian hadn't done it first. So it was damage control.

Be nice if all those virtue signaling fighters on the card who accused froggy of taking money from charity donated their fight purses.

I feel like Ian paid the fighters too well or at least had too many fighters. I mean $20k for like 24 fighters each? That adds up even if it doesn't seem much to any of them. Ian really should have been budgeting more instead of riding on the success of the first creator clash.

@RxYouth

Жыл бұрын

They were also supposed to get a percentage of sales and POV. Harley mentioned this on PKA and Froggy said he'd donate his percentage if they let him back on the card. Ian needs to show the receipts.

Honestly if they want to do it for charity, then fighters should do it for free and only have to pay for the broadcasting itself, all money being sent to the event should just be to pay the bare minimum for broadcasting and anything left for charity. It's hard (for me) to see on how an event would all go towards charity, when you have a bunch of stuff needed to pay off, along with paying the fighters off. It doesn't sound like the charity is even getting much.

@jewel8425

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChaosSwissroIli didn't even think of that. You smarty pants! But yeah, totally shady asf.

Once you start noticing that Idubbz never looks happy in these videos, you never unsee it If this is him “being mature”, then he’s obviously doing it wrong.

@TAZEROXFORD

Жыл бұрын

If being mature means getting a 40 yo Jewish woman’s haircut and giving up my artistic integrity to get punched in the face and pretend to like it, then I don’t want it

@xRickAstleyx

Жыл бұрын

@@TAZEROXFORD do you think he might know more about his own "artistic integrity" than you do? its pretty pathetic how much you people have parasocially glommed on to all this internet drama

@mistermyself1725

Жыл бұрын

@@xRickAstleyxI’m sorry I’m sure you might love Idubbbz but it’s not that hard to see that he’s unhappy and struggling right now… All of these mistakes in such a short time no less. It’s dramatic.

@w1lDstYLe

Жыл бұрын

@@mistermyself1725that guys in multiple comment replies defending idubbz desperately. If it’s not Ian, Anisa or her mom, or Harley, I’d be surprised someone is this upset over idubbz digging up another L.

@jewel8425

Жыл бұрын

​​@@xRickAstleyx think ian doesn't know it anymore unless anissa tells him what it is. Actually, in all matters, not just "artistic integrity" 😂. The man is clearly miserable, if you were a fan, you think that would matter to you.

Wo wo wo NO money to charity? I've never been so surprised at hearing something in a youtube video And most of the creators JUST in it for the money is disgusting, especially for a charity event

I think he HAD to make that video cause if it later came out that nothing was donated to charity, then it would look a lot worse for everyone involved

Watch Ian try to define charity speedrun any percentage

God it feels so good to have been correct the whole time, and really give it back to everyone coping about it because they personally benefitted from the event being viral.

its so funny that both Ian and anisa were saing that she is the one making the calls, shes the one that is the main guy behind the event, a now when the event crashed and burned she is nowhere to be seen and idubbbz is taking the blame xddd

We might as well start calling him Ldubbbz

Also, I still don't understand why Creator Clash needed to have a Red Carpet Gala. Like why? If there was a post-fight press conference then yeah I totally get that but a Red Carpet Gala makes no sense whatsoever. Plus they invited people like Amouranth, Esfand, Hassan, Meowri, PeachJars, Cyr etc like wtf is their significance in this event? This looks much more like a flex and their attempt to one up the other Influencer Boxing Events and ironically this Red Carpet Gala is one of the reason why they couldn't give any money to charity lol.

ALL of the creators should have done this for charity as well.

its sad that yogcast (which arent really popular anymore) jingle jam makes more money for charity than creator clash which is a giant event.

Creator Clash, mainly the second one, just seemed like a scam of a charity, especially with the way they compared themselves to other charities, treating it like some competition. If KZreadrs do charity events, they should be looking at events like The Sidemen football charity match or streamers like CdawgVA. It's weird when most of the proceeds go to the event runners and participants and not charity lol

Good point blowbacks no one ever accused them. Kinda a guilty conscience or self snitching

Anisa just got a huge back tattoo done, if they are hurting so badly for money I don't see why she did that.

@Demon083

Жыл бұрын

because its all a lie. How do you think they got over 100k donated to charity that they "couldn't afford" due to them "losing money" on the event. Its just for them not to have to pay the charties and have us the stupid consumer pay for their lifestyle. And they get away with it everytime. Social blade tells all and this is ridiculous the new age of media.

They rented out a whole hotel too, was that in there too? There was also an event before AND after he said they hosted. Great video!

This is why you can't fully trust charities or charity events unless they fully disclose their expenses and show where all the money went. So Imagine about thinking about making money at a charity event, joking or not.

He went from Idubbbz to Iellls

10:30 they had a Gala! He really thought CC 2 was going to make bank

Whenever someone says all of it is going to charity in a huge event, they better have MrBeast levels of money, because there is no way they are going to make an event and paying everything from their pocket. Especially something this huge.

Im a PPV ticket that didnt get purchased because of how they handled froggy.

Does this mean that 0 money went to chairty then? If creator clash was supposedly donating any money thats profit after they make back what they spent on it, and theyre still 250k under then yeah, id assume so

@TwitterVS

Жыл бұрын

You're right. No money went to charity off CC2

@dr.zoidburger7515

Жыл бұрын

@@TwitterVS so much for "it's for charity!!!" "You're taming money from charity!!!"

7:03 The GOAT Morrison.

Nice mic drop Bo B. I followed the Froggy drama close and though I knew everyone was getting paid - I had no idea there was a scenario all the charities got stiffed. Wow.

yes idubbz who got middle class ppl to pay TWICE to give money to charaties, remeber once for CC2 and now the 24 hour stream PEOPLE PAID TWICE, and now his taking all the credit for OTHER PPL PAYING for charities wow such good guy. tell me how much of his own money is he giving to the charaties?

how abt him n anisa donate their own fking money. they claim theyre oh such good ppl and shame they old audiences. and when said audiences dont support them anymore suddenly theyre crying abt how their charity event failed. if they care so much as they claim to theres nothing stopping them from donating. nothing stopping audiences from donating too, why pay them like this instance and the money u pay intending to go to charity gets wasted. just cut out the middle man. its so apparent the failure of this event is its own creators, they turned down large sums of money from other creators seemingly coz of their own egos and high self worth. i dont feel sorry for them.

@MissingmyBabbu

Жыл бұрын

It's good that Ian is making an attempt at doing right by charity, but the fact that he did a stream where VIEWER donos are going instead of putting his money where his mouth is pisses me off. Like, dude doesn't deserve an iota of kudos if he isn't at LEAST putting some (ideally more) money in himself. It's not on Average Joes to raise the money, he should be doing it his own damn self!

@unculturedit

Жыл бұрын

@@MissingmyBabbu exactly! Like he's just pushing his mismanagement onto like u said the avg Joe

That’s hilarious The first one should’ve been one time thing, to jab at rice gum for being a coward.

What’s funny is that they can easily debunk the claim that they’re pocketing money by just being transparent and showing recipients when it comes to where their money went. You know, like every other non profit charity. But they won’t do that cause then people would see that they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars flying out creators that had nothing to do with the event (probably in first class), rented out an entire hotel, and had 4 different parties with open bars to “process their trauma.”

stupid af for them to rent out a whole hotel to pamper content creators and then say “whoopsie no more $$ for charity left.”

Common Bow W I hope the creators can give some of the money they received to the charities.

Holy crap this is what real journalism should be!!! Uncovering hidden truths and unraveling lies! This was awesome to watch ngl

The most surprising thing about this is me just now knowing John Morrison was in the event and I had absolutely no idea 😂

Also all this info might get them in trouble with irs taxes….i don’t think this was a good idea releasing to public

You know where the money went... Look how much bigger IDubbbz left nostril is than his right

Great work there bowblax, you ain't too bad after all

He never denied pocketing money, outside of a very dismissive way of wording it (i.e. "here's what people have been saying and it's hurtful; it's the complete opposite"). Every other time he mentions being accused, he only said that he's not okay with people making stuff up with people lying and he doesn't need people spreading rumors. All he's said are soft denials. He never outright says that he didn't pocket money.

$20k is working for free? I would also get my azz beat for “free” if it meant paying off that much debt…… i mean for charity….

I don’t know, it’s just a complex situation. As easy as it is to say fighters shouldn’t be getting paid like some comments are suggesting, it is really hard to get people on board to fight for that. The 20k creators were making probably didn’t even cover the costs most of them put into training, and at that point most creators would rather just donate the money directly than waste it all on training expenses and then show up to not even make that much for charity from people coming to the event. Things like the gala are also supposed to get people interested in watching the event, so even though it didn’t work out this time it is hard to predict whether expenses like that are actually going to help get money or hurt in the long run. It’s unfortunate, but with underperforming sales an already questionable setup was pushed past the breaking point. People are starting to realize that massive charity events like these are not actually that good at generating excess revenue, especially compared to your average charity stream that costs a lot less to make but gets a lot more general audience participation.

Imma need to see those receipts

Bowblax has the vision, also I think it’s karma for Idubbbz saying “we’re like basic better than everyone”

this is not the first time ive seen a charity event and the money all spend on the event instead of charity and im afraid this wont be the last. no disrespect, i'm very skeptical to see how much money Creator Clash makes made by someone whos not from the inside confirming it. still the fact that Charity Event and idubz losing money -$25K sound normal to me. its charity event, it supposed to lose money because it non-profit. it seem someone want something in retun instead of doing boxing event for fun and also Charity. my theory the Creator Clash is just idubz try to find new audience thats more profitable (maybe like H3 audience) instead of edgy audience. Creator Clash are just branding things so they can make businesses and stay away from edgy joke and content cop. the reason why Sam Hyde and Froggy Jokes are "Brand Risk" because it hurts their brand and all the charity excuses are worthless because non of money goes to charity, all of them goes to the event. this is just a case of bad management, the fact that they surprised and didn't expect Charity Event gonna lose money and thinking the event can coverup the cost of the event and charity instead of paying for the event and the event only need to raised money for charity. i don't know them personally so this just a guess but i do still think this all just a big mismanagement and failure attempt made by however run this creator clash 2.

thank you for making this video!

The marketing on CC2 was abysmal. Didn’t see any trailers or hype up until the whole froggyfresh drama. All they had to do was suck up their ego. The real people taking the L is the charities

People usually show the confirmation of the money donated to the charity because they're happy about it and want everyone to see. Odd how we haven't seen that by people who used the event being a charity as a shield and sword so heavily.

Sam Hyde wins again.

For charity proceeds to give non to charity 💀 and to think things could get worse

You where very clear in your original video. The fact they won't say a name is very telling about how much they believe in they're argument. I don't even like Froggy (I don't have thing against him either) but every step of the way Ean handled this wrong. Idubbz if you don't want anyone to have contact with Sam Hiede put it in the contract & you should care about money because if the show doesn't make money there is no charity & there is no next show.

I’m pretty sure he pocketed that money

Bro you doing all that math is like going back to high school

20k is working for free? Bro, if the pay day was smaller the event would definitely made money for charity, that is really funny

@gabsnandes7818

Жыл бұрын

@@ChaosSwissroIl it's mental honestly, a for charity event being in the red, all of that with a gala included

He basically called his fans basement dwellers and shat all over them and now he’s shocked they didn’t wanna PAY for his projects? Shocker.

#ReportIantotheIRS

He seems sedated.

Bro just lifted this from TomDark 😂

@TwitterVS

Жыл бұрын

i haven't watched any of tom's videos on creator clash yet lol

it was never about charity. For the creators it was a bag and ego, for Anissa and Icuckzzz it was ego Also, although some money got donated to charity with that live stream, it should have never came to that, because even that was about ego. It was about trying to make him look good after the failure of an event made him look terrible. If it was about the charity, why not put the money up himself, the dude is a multimillionaire.

20K is more than alot of UFC fighters make lmao

@alabastertheunicorn3204

11 ай бұрын

For real. Most fighters are working with breadcrumbs destroying their body for a chance for a real payday. Honestly I don't mind if people got a stipend for funding training but they should have been more open about it and getting a cut of the ticket sales.

I'm looking into this. Here is the thing, the math that idubbbz gives doesn't add up when you add the total revenue. I'm going to stream with modernmedua later breaking down the numbers, costs, etc. but will definitely mention this video for being the first to actually look at the numbers.

IDubbz v Sam Hyde for Creator Class 3 would more than makeup the lost profits plus make its own.